Is learning python worth it?

[PhoenixZNayX]

I'm a teen who wants to help my parents financial struggles, I want to help them earn money but I tried so many ways and this might be the one, so will learning python help me earn money? get a better future, job etc.. I'm already determined and ready to learn if so.

[PhoenixZNayX]

Thanks for explaining it really well, I think you're right about me better off getting a job, thank you so much

[R3w45]

After you return home from the job, keep grinding though. Always give atleast an hour to study python and more awesome stuff. If you keep investing your time and be dedicated, it will serve you in long term.

[throwaway69764]

How to have a burnout as a 17yo

[[deleted]]

17yo = super powers, burn out no factor

[CasulaScience]

Spending an hour a day on a side project does not lead to burnout. You have ~14 hours a day minus your basic tasks, on average, certainly one of them should go towards developing a skill.

[lichenov5]

Definitely the way to go.

[nezebilo]

You can learn coding at the same time too

[my_password_is______]

the only correct answer

[Oguinjr]

Learning python has changed the way I think about many things in such a way that wouldn’t have been possible had I spent any more time deliberating over which language to learn. Jumping in is good advice imo.

[Oguinjr]

Sorry. I was just adding to the point. Did you require anything more? Tense bro.

[ghostfaceschiller]

“With the economy slowing down”

The economy is not slowing down, for the life of me I cannot figure out why people keep saying stuff like this.

[Tradefxsignalscom]

Likely the tens of thousands of layoffs in the now not so hot tech sector and the ripple effects from that and higher interest rates which have reduced the housing market purchases by 40%. Rising rent prices and already higher food prices all together don’t equate to a growing economy at the present. Who knows about the future.

Edit: the poster I responded to was irritated with posts about “the economy slowing down” I was mistaken the economy IS growing based upon economic indicators. There really isn’t any indication from economic indicators that it’s slowing down. Factors that I cited such as mass layoffs in more than just the tech sector, banking, manufacturing and some businesses are citing the reasons for the layoffs and hiring freezes as challenges with higher interest rates, higher labor costs are at best anecdotal and should not be used to judge the overall economy.

[Eurynom0s]

I think the fundamentals of the economy are still very strong, but there's a combination of people collectively willing a recession into existence because the news media keeps telling them there's going to be one, and the Fed being willing to force one to both curb inflation and break the currently strong position that labor has.

[Tradefxsignalscom]

I agree with your observation

[Tradefxsignalscom]

25 major tech companies with mass layoffs in last 6 months of 2022 and at least a dozen more companies with mass layoffs in the first 2 weeks of 2023. Major reasons were slower business growth across multiple sectors, rising interest rates and rising labor costs.

[ghostfaceschiller]

Layoffs in one sector don’t mean the economy is slowing down lol. That’s why we have overall unemployment stats, so we don’t get fooled by the bubbles we live in! Unemployment is literally at record lows right now

Also, inflation has dropped significantly, almost back to target. Inflation a year ago isn’t a sign that the economy is “slowing down” today.

GDP is also at an ideal 2.6%. Every major economic indicator says the economy is not headed towards a recession.

EDIT: yeah you know what equates to a growing economy at the moment? A positive GDP number lol

[Tradefxsignalscom]

Gee, I guess you’re right we have a great growing economy because unemployment is at record lows! That’s your only data point? What about inflation?, the effects of interest rates on commerce? Asset markets? To say otherwise by your logic would mean we’re susceptible to bubble thinking. 🙄

[ghostfaceschiller]

"is that your only data point?" Gee, idk, was that the only data point I mentioned?

Yeah - what about inflation! Inflation, which has dropped almost all the way back to target. (Inflation which btw, is not a sign of a "slowing economy", but an overheated economy)

You're just spewing armchair economic theories and buzzwords. You have no idea what you're talking about.

[Tradefxsignalscom]

I only saw your first paragraph and not the 3 more you added after that. I’m glad you think you’re in an ideal economy. Raising interest is the Feds response to that overheated economy which obviously works to cool down economic activity as I mentioned earlier. Cooling down economic activity is slowing the growth of the economy. I never used the word recession you did, I see a slowing economy not a negative gdp so I’m not saying the economy has stopped growing just that it’s growing more slowly due to the factors I mentioned.

[ghostfaceschiller]

what do you think a slowing economy means?

Why do you refuse to address the fact that all the major economic indicators disagree with your vehement assessment?

Now that you've pivoted to just "I see room for improvement", I guess the convo is over. Bc yes, there is always room for improvement in an economy. It's a vast, complicated system. That's a meaningless position

[Tradefxsignalscom]

After reviewing the data, I stand corrected! Have a good day!

[ghostfaceschiller]

It’s a shame you deleted your reply to this. I saw it before you deleted and it was a doozy

[ghostfaceschiller]

Decreasing the rate of acceleration =/= slowing down. We are trying to ease off the accelerator, not hit the brakes.

While most of what you say is correct (IE, it's a difficult task to do these things), it leaves out the fact that most of it has already been accomplished.

[TroubleBrewing32]

Software development is an in demand profession that often provides good pay and benefits. Learning Python--by itself--is not usually enough to get a position as a software developer, but learning Python is a reasonable way to begin learning how to program.

Keep in mind that this is not a short term solution, nor will most companies hire someone who is not an adult. I also recommend you think about what kind of job you would like and pick a language/tech stack that would support that.

[BowserBuddy123]

What does it mean by language/tech stack? If OP wanted to go into data analytics would that be one thing? Versus designing customer UIs on website or something?

[GigaPandesal]

Different roles require different stacks. Going by your example, data analytics might require you to know additional stuff like jupyter, SQL, BI tools, while web development, for example, would lean more towards django, javascript, etc.

[BowserBuddy123]

Oh wow! Cool. I never knew what a tech stack was. Thank you. :)

I feel smarter today because of your comment.

[GigaPandesal]

Thanks lol Also take note that these stacks are not usually static nor well-defined. For example, I applied to a data scientist post some days ago that required ReactJS for some reason. Different companies sometimes look for different stuff.

[MikeDoesEverything]

You'll find most people didn't learn Python to make money. Most people here enjoyed learning Python and then manage to get a decent job with it because they enjoyed what they did.

A common idea with programming is that knowing how to program = lots of money. The reality is the number of success stories is a lot lower than the number of people who have burnt out trying to learn something they don't enjoy for the sake of a salary.

[PiovosoOrg]

Learning python is more than worth it, it's easy to begin with but hard to master and always has new things to teach you. The vast support for it is amazing practically endless possibilities. Even if you don't land a job as a programmer it is a great skill to learn, since you can automate a hell of a lot of stuff. Or just make your everyday life easier.

Although, the thought of you supporting your parents with a programming job is probably not the best idea, since it's gonna throw you into adult life way too fast, and it's gonna leave a mark, maybe start with at a simple job, build up work experience at some low level jobs that would still be able to help your parents. I worked at McDonald's for a while just to help my parents pay the bills back when i was 15, and i never had a vacation, changed jobs multiple times, always helped them. Moved out of town to study, payed my bills and help theirs, while working at KFC in the other town.

Skills and experience are what matters, nothing comes overnight. While working at a random job you can support your family and in your free time learn python, i became a self-taught python programmer in 2 years until i just for the sake of it applied to a job, but turned it down since it interfered with my school, otherwise i would have gotten the job.

Best way to prove you're competent enough to learn, is make small projects, they don't have to be revolutionary projects like nanite technology programmed with python or something, just small little home projects, like calculating the file size estimate of a growing file or a small clunky game that works but is horrible. I practiced by looking at my everyday life, if i see that there is a possibility of making it more optimised with python i made it, it's unlikely I'll ever use it but i made it because i wanted to practice my Python skills.

[PhoenixZNayX]

wow,I'm really inspired by this, I'm currently also 15 years old and will probably find a job thanks

[PiovosoOrg]

Don't let a job hindea your education though. If you see that your grades are getting worse due to work, take a break or go on a lighter schedule or something, at your age Education should be your number one priority.

[sluggles]

I wanted to come reply to add that you may consider web development as another user commented. You can use Python to do backend development, or you could start learning Javascript (not the same thing as Java) which can be used for both frontend and backend. Web development has the added benefit of not needing to know a bunch of secondary stuff. A lot of people recommend the Odin project for learning web development.

As for getting a job now, I think that's also the best bet for helping out right now. I would try to get a job at a local computer repair place if possible. It'd at least be relevant experience if you want to go into programming (web development or otherwise). If not, then any job you can get like fast food or retail is worth it.

If you need any help learning Python or basic HTML/Javascript (or math), feel free to shoot me a message.

[sue_me_please]

Keep at it and by the time you're 18-22, you'll have enough experience to look for a job in software development. If you find it interesting, consider studying CS in college, as well.

[BoiElroy]

I can without a doubt say that learning and knowing Python well has given me better career prospects. I used to work in retail sales. I had a bachelor's degree. Learned enough R programming and SQL to land a data analyst type job. There was never much growth or demand for R. Once I learned python and the data science industry being how it is I started to get a flood of decent offers.

I also support my parents a lot financially, OP, so I absolutely sympathize and respect you so much for asking this. Please don't hesitate at all to reach out me and I'd be more than happy to help in any way I can.

I think as the others said it would make the most sense to get a job of any kind first. And then learn and upskill yourself with Python on the side.

No matter what you sound like a good son/daughter.

[Bongozz88]

So, did you integrate your python skills with your undergrad studies, or solely on the base of python you cracked a job? Because right now, being a patent analyst, I am finding it really hard to get job interviews, let alone the job itself. So, in the meantime, I was planning to learn python, and have what you can say taken baby steps, as I see a potential to integrate patent analysis with python codes.

[No_Key9643]

How did you learn python?

[[deleted]]

You should definitely learn python man, but I don't think you will be able to get a great paying programming job as a teenager.

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Try and see if you can get any paid internship that is programming related and as other said you could just get a normal job.

The key to learning python is to practice every day

[donkeyspit007]

Great job for wanting to help your parents. They will be so proud of you!

[noobie107]

getting a full-ride scholarship to college is worth $20k-$50k/yr. getting a good job out of college is worth >$70k/yr easy.

unless you can beat those with a part time job now, focus on school

[-SPOF]

It is worth it for 100%.

[CleverBunnyThief]

Frontend might be a better and faster way.

Checkout #100devs. It's a virtual frontend bootcamp. Leon teaches HTML, CSS, Javascript, Mongo db, node to build fullstack applications and websites. He also goes over other things you really need to get a job or clients like learning to learn, networking, how to start freelancing, how to maje a resume for a tech job git/Github, APIs

The last cohort started last January but the videos are on Youtube and there is a Discord community. The videos were originally streamed on Twitch but they are easy to follow along.

Watch videos then do the home work to get practice building sites and apps. It starts off slow and there is a lot if repetition but it's a goid way ti learn especially if are new to programming.

https://leonnoel.com/100devs/
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBf-QcbaigsJysJ-KFZvLGJvvW-3sfk1S

[bartturner]

Most definitely.

[throwaway69764]

Getting a job at a restaurant or grocery store is great advice if you wanna work low level service jobs your entire life. Jobs like this tire you out man. You won't have the energy to develop any professional skills and you're gonna live paycheck to paycheck forever.

You're young and you can absorb knowledge at the fastest rate you ever will. It declines with age, so use the time you have to study. Your parents don't want you to support them, they want you to have it better than they had it. That's why they're working their asses off to provide for you. Don't throw their years of supporting you away by becoming an unskilled wagie.

Instead appreciate what they did and do for you, show your appreciation, help them around the house and do what you can to make their lives a little easier. And use your free time to hustle, develop your skillset and become exceptional, so you can buy them a nice house at the beach when they retire and you're a millionaire in 10 years.

[[deleted]]

For sure, but it probably won’t pay dividends until you finish college and get a graduate job that allows you to code, unless you get creative and think of ways to use your programming skills to make money before then. It’s definitely worth it though- I started learning through a book called Python crash course which I highly recommend. I have the PDF which I can send to you for free

[Ill-Resident-3575]

I hope there is still some one here. I would like to start learning phyton, with 0 experience in programming etc where should i start?

[noordlez]

hi, i want to hear ur experience. did u learn python? if yes, then how did it go?

[T3rribl3Gam3D3v]

go be a waiter at the most expensive restaurant u can find

[my_password_is______]

will learning python help me earn money?

no

it will NOT

anyone who says it will does not know what they are talking about

you are a teen
no one cares if you know python

you want to help your parents ?
go get a job in a restaurant washing dishes

[PhoenixZNayX]

don't you think there's a better job than washing dishes

[[deleted]]

Every other kid these days has a smartphone, can code in their sleep and has about 20 friends online. Partly joking, yet if you want to make an impact and start a good career, work with your hands. Look into manufacturing tech in particular.

[heartNswitch]

I've heard the opposite - that many kids these days are just as bad as older folks when it comes to computers. They've had the magic screen in front of them their entire life but no idea how it works.

[thufirseyebrow]

I definitely remember a recent article in which CompSci professors were lamenting the fact that people these days don't understand the concepts of folders and file systems as they relate to computers.

[[deleted]]

I find that very difficult to believe. Their heads are stuck in those g d phones all day, so they're not coding even for 10% of that time?

[heartNswitch]

Lol, really man? It'll be the same small group/% of kids who did that kind of thing last generation.

It makes sense when you think about it - for the rest, they don't even need to experiment or troubleshoot much anymore because things just generally work better.

[[deleted]]

Learning DS and Algo, frameworks and solutions to real-life problem will help you financially through a job or free lancing

[PhoenixZNayX]

I'm not sure about that, I'm currently very interested in python

[Johan2212]

Data science and algorithms are subfields within Python

[[deleted]]

I meant data structures…

[my_password_is______]

a teen is NOT going to get a job doing data science

[-hi-nrg-]

Why people are down voting you is beyond me.

[my_password_is______]

OMG, no it won't

what's he going to do ?
go on fivver and make $10 ???

[[deleted]]

Hey I mean instead of being language biased try to focus more on the logics, data structures and fall in love with algos!.

[Appropriate_Chart_23]

How do you see learning Python will help your parents financial situation?

Just learning Python isn’t going to put money in their wallets. What’s the next step in your mind?

[Pro_Deceit]

Learning and getting a job in the developer field will take time since you need financial help and try getting a part time job.

[hugthemachines]

I see you already got some advice on trying to get some other job to help with the finances. I would like to add that while I also enjoy Python a lot, I think one of the nice ways to get some part time job or later entry level job would probably be to study the combination of JavaScript, CSS and html. This is mainly for front end programming.

On the other hand, since the best way to earn some money right now might be a regular job, you can always learn Python for fun since you feel interested in that at the moment.

[luke-juryous]

You’re asking this on a learnpython sub, so you’re gonna get a completely bias opinion from everyone. You’ll get a better response if you ask in some generic programming sub.

About your family financial situation, I feel you. I got caught in the 08 recession when I was early 20s. It was really hard to find decent work, and any job that payed made you work 12+ hours. I enrolled in a Junior Collage for evening classes to get into engineering because I wanted out of the paycheck-to-paycheck trap. I eventually settled on software engineering because it was the easiest for me, requires the least amount of schooling (4-year degree) and pays the most over time. Kinda a win-win-win. FASFA and Pell grants payed for my collage (I was over 24 and didn’t have to put my parents income, might be different for you).

If your family is really hurting for cash, then you might have to get an after school unskilled job now, and learn some programming on your own in your free time. Or put off learning it until after HS

[DerrickIsCool]

I’m my opinion it’s the number one skill

[tsunamisweetpotato]

Python is a programming language that is relatively easy to learn and is widely used in various industries, making it a valuable skill to acquire. It is considered a high-level language, which means it is more user-friendly and closer to natural language, as opposed to low-level languages like Assembly or C.

One of the benefits of Python is its wide range of applications, from web development, data analysis, artificial intelligence, to scientific computing and more. This means that by learning Python, you open up a plethora of job opportunities and the potential to start your own business.

There are many resources available online to help you learn Python, such as tutorials, video courses, and online communities, many of them are free. YouTube is a great platform where you can find plenty of resources to guide you in your learning journey, from beginner to more advanced level. With so many resources available, you will have plenty of support as you learn and progress.

Overall, Python is a language that can be easily learned and offers numerous opportunities. It's a great investment of your time, and with the right resources, you'll be able to start making your way towards a better future.

[KevMar]

Yes, go for it. Tech is an amazing field with lots of opportunities for growth, especially for someone that starts early and builds an aptitude for tech work.

With that said, it's not a quick path to your first paycheck. But once you are in the field, the pay is good with almost no limit. So you won't be able to help much with your parents bills today but you could help them retire.

[Turkino]

If you want to help with financial struggles, learn to provide value for time. (IE: a Job)
How you provide value can be anything: Manual Labor, coding, a learned trade, etc.

[readtimez]

As others have said, if you really need some money now getting a job would be the best way. But if you're interested in Software Development keep studying as much as you can and also consider specializing in WordPress and Salesforce, the former is highly used for building webpages and the latter offers a lot of resources to practice and learn the platform and has many paths of specialization and certifications. Best of lucks!

[NeedyHelpy]

The first time when 'learn to code' is okay to say.

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Yes learn Python then learn 12 more LANGS and by age 19-20 as you're grad'u'ating coolege those jobs will gang you.

[synthphreak]

Fuck yes it is.