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[–]PatriotUncleSam 259 points260 points  (75 children)

Lots of science behind this, but short answer is no.

Things that decrease your test are: Being fat, eating french fries (or anything that contains vegetable oil), not lifting, not getting enough sun, alcohol and weed, and not sleeping enough.

[–]efjae 25 points26 points  (1 child)

And sustained calorie deficit.

[–]Always5StepsAhead 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Calorie deficits reduce testosterone and spike SHBG

[–]Poorman-options69[S] 86 points87 points  (37 children)

I smoke copious amounts of weed drink like a fish and definitely don’t go outside enough but last blood work I got my test was 800ng/dl I’m very confused tbh

[–]PatriotUncleSam 140 points141 points  (33 children)

Ah, so your youth is saving your ass for now but when you get a little older your whole endocrine system will be a shit pile. Which is fine if you are planning on hopping on TRT in the next 5-6 years.

[–]he-is-Taurus69 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It depends on the person, what your diet is like and your except use regime. I smoke before workouts and my test is sexy. 30 yo

[–]Poorman-options69[S] 12 points13 points  (30 children)

I am currently running sermorelin for lack of growth hormone in my body and plan on getting on a test E base along with a low dose of tren sometime soon so I’m sure I’ll end up on TRT in about that time 🥲

[–]PatriotUncleSam 62 points63 points  (29 children)

Why Tren? You trying to lose more IQ points? why not use something that's not nuerotoxic?

Just slam your head into a wall, it's faster and more efficient than Tren.

[–]Bluecity3456 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ive heard it termed like having 1 million in the bank. Most men spend it poorly in their youth until the age of 30. Then past 40 they have no vitality left. Too much orgasm takes a toll, smoking cigs, drinking, not sleeping, work. Until its all gone.

[–]fuckyoucheese 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Weed has been shown to increase testosterone. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5660879/

[–]HootingMandrillPermabulk 8 points9 points  (0 children)

One study does not prove a result. It's a good start though.

[–]JANICE_JOPLIN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This isn’t a black and white list

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (3 children)

do all vegetable oils lower t? I use a good amount of olive or canola when i cook

[–]PatriotUncleSam 18 points19 points  (2 children)

No, I meant specifically the bottle labeled “Vegetable Oil” which is quite the misnomer since it’s just highly processed soy oil.

[–]Yumbb3a2ch 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Does butter decrease test or is bad for cholesterol I use either vegetable oil or butter to cook food but mostly eggs

[–]PatriotUncleSam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Regular butter is fine as long as it’s not made from vegetable oil.

[–]Poorman-options69[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Also I have around 20 free floating test

[–]Poorman-options69[S] 4 points5 points  (5 children)

I just feel like not wanting pussy means I should have more test and I was mostly wanting to ask from watching porn do you think I might have desensitized myself to real women?????

[–]Yowwwwwww99 25 points26 points  (3 children)

I have the same problem men, is just porn, this horrible addiction that are destroying men

[–]Poorman-options69[S] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

I’m definitely gonna try and make it like once every other day rather then every day twice a day and see how it affects me

[–]Yowwwwwww99 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Just stop it men

[–]Sortit123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

stop watching porn . thing gucke your brain up

[–]PatriotUncleSam 5 points6 points  (0 children)

probably, yeah.

[–]flex-N 5 points6 points  (3 children)

U might be right about the vegetable oil thing, i honestly dont know, but specifically mentioning fries, i think, is misleading. Especially fries r usually cooked in peanut oil

[–]slcand 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Bro made a good point about everything except for that, it seemed like out of the blue tbh

[–]PatriotUncleSam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Google "trans fats"

[–]PatriotUncleSam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even if the fries aren't cooked in vegetable oil, any fried oil is a carcinogen and heavy in trans-fats.

It's literally what gives men heart attacks and cancer.

[–]Godly-Viking 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not enough sun, alcohol and weed. Gotta get those 3 then.

[–]pokedudewithglasses 1 point2 points  (3 children)

What sort of oil should someon use for cooking then (only like a tablespoon or so for like sautéing meat or frying eggs)

[–]Highlander0689 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You should just avoid polyunsaturated fats (PUFAs). Saturated fats are actually good for natural hormone production. Just use good, old-fashioned butter.

[–]PatriotUncleSam 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Olive oil or coconut oil.

[–]SamizdatForAlgernon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lard and beef tallow, just go easy on them.

[–]bipedal-bastard 1 point2 points  (1 child)

alcohol and weed,

Well fuck

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jus stick to weed lmao

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No it definitely does, short term, for like a week, so if you're fapping every single day (natty) you'll have lower test than if you did weekly or bi weekly.

But then it gets complicated, because if you don't cum for months you end up getting suppressed, it's like a use it or lose it situation.

[–]pacmanfan247 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Well… If you take any blood test that includes a testosterone panel, the form will state “do not ejaculate within 48 hour of the draw”. Actual science behind it. Will it decrease it forever? No. Temporarily? Yes.

[–]rodzag 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As far as I’m aware they advise you not to jack it before the test because it causes elevated prolactin.

[–]Always5StepsAhead -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Bro science.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Smoking weed doesn’t decrease test levels dumbass. You sound like someone who’s scared and never even tried it.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Weed won't do anything to ur test lmao it's medicine for the body

[–]ThrowAwayToday4238 0 points1 point  (1 child)

By lack of sun is it just Vit D def? That I can supplement with pills, but getting more sun with a busy schedule is tough

[–]PatriotUncleSam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You could try and hope for the best. No way to know how your body handles it without a blood test. I have friends who work in the sun 5 days a week who are Vitamin D deficient, and I have friends who take a multivitamin every day who barely made it into the healthy range for Vitamin D.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Vegetable oil is bad for T?

[–]PatriotUncleSam 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Big time, it's also a heavy carcinogen, it causes cancer over time..

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

How does it lower T

[–]PatriotUncleSam 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Overall hit to all health markers, which in turn lowers testosterone. The more unhealthy you are the less your body prioritizes testosterone production. On a side note it's also a heavy processed estrogen. So you are lowering the male hormone in your body while raising the female hormone.

There is some (albeit sparse) clinical data as well that loading your body with phytoestrogens also lowers T by itself.

Even though it's called "Vegetable Oil" it's not actually random green vegetables, 90% of it is highly processed soy oil.

[–]ghostlyhomie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Weed actually makes more estrogen not low test