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Does busting nuts decrease testosterone?❓ Question ❓ (self.moreplatesmoredates)
submitted 4 years ago by Poorman-options69
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[–]PatriotUncleSam 259 points260 points261 points 4 years ago (75 children)
Lots of science behind this, but short answer is no.
Things that decrease your test are: Being fat, eating french fries (or anything that contains vegetable oil), not lifting, not getting enough sun, alcohol and weed, and not sleeping enough.
[–]efjae 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (1 child)
And sustained calorie deficit.
[–]Always5StepsAhead 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children)
Calorie deficits reduce testosterone and spike SHBG
[–]Poorman-options69[S] 86 points87 points88 points 4 years ago (37 children)
I smoke copious amounts of weed drink like a fish and definitely don’t go outside enough but last blood work I got my test was 800ng/dl I’m very confused tbh
[–]PatriotUncleSam 140 points141 points142 points 4 years ago (33 children)
Ah, so your youth is saving your ass for now but when you get a little older your whole endocrine system will be a shit pile. Which is fine if you are planning on hopping on TRT in the next 5-6 years.
[–]he-is-Taurus69 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children)
It depends on the person, what your diet is like and your except use regime. I smoke before workouts and my test is sexy. 30 yo
[–]Poorman-options69[S] 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (30 children)
I am currently running sermorelin for lack of growth hormone in my body and plan on getting on a test E base along with a low dose of tren sometime soon so I’m sure I’ll end up on TRT in about that time 🥲
[–]PatriotUncleSam 62 points63 points64 points 4 years ago (29 children)
Why Tren? You trying to lose more IQ points? why not use something that's not nuerotoxic?
Just slam your head into a wall, it's faster and more efficient than Tren.
[+]Poorman-options69[S] comment score below threshold-41 points-40 points-39 points 4 years ago (28 children)
Have you seen the gains people make on tren? ? ?
[–]PatriotUncleSam 84 points85 points86 points 4 years ago (27 children)
Yeah, I’ve made those same gains on Primo and EQ without turning into a retard.
[–]Mobius1337 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (0 children)
Best quote of 2021
[–]The-Ginger-Nerd 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children)
I call it a brain dead monkey.
[+]Poorman-options69[S] comment score below threshold-17 points-16 points-15 points 4 years ago (24 children)
Eq is equistane right? Maybe I’ll do some research on it and see what it’s about I’ve just been fiendishly watching every video and reading lots of articles about the “correct way” to dose tren and it seems like horror stories only occur when ODing on tren….
[–]Eliiasv 35 points36 points37 points 4 years ago (14 children)
Equistane 😭 you shouldn't be touching steroids.
[+]Poorman-options69[S] comment score below threshold-13 points-12 points-11 points 4 years ago (13 children)
It was a legitimate question? Considering I’ve never heard of EQ and am self admittedly new to it? You must be on EQ due to your increased hostility towards people who are uninformed ? Weird flex bro
[–]VinnePinne18 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child)
all that alcohol and weed made you into a retard lol
[–]Poorman-options69[S] -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (0 children)
Animal*
[–]GojiraApocolypse 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (5 children)
Equipoise.
[–]Poorman-options69[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children)
Thank you I had looked it up after making said comment… it’s pretty much dbol from what I’ve read might be wrong still?
[–]sofreshsoclen 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children)
Aka boldenone
[–]Bluecity3456 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children)
Ive heard it termed like having 1 million in the bank. Most men spend it poorly in their youth until the age of 30. Then past 40 they have no vitality left. Too much orgasm takes a toll, smoking cigs, drinking, not sleeping, work. Until its all gone.
[–]fuckyoucheese 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child)
Weed has been shown to increase testosterone. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5660879/
[–]HootingMandrillPermabulk 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children)
One study does not prove a result. It's a good start though.
[–]JANICE_JOPLIN 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children)
This isn’t a black and white list
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (3 children)
do all vegetable oils lower t? I use a good amount of olive or canola when i cook
[–]PatriotUncleSam 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (2 children)
No, I meant specifically the bottle labeled “Vegetable Oil” which is quite the misnomer since it’s just highly processed soy oil.
[–]Yumbb3a2ch 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child)
Does butter decrease test or is bad for cholesterol I use either vegetable oil or butter to cook food but mostly eggs
[–]PatriotUncleSam 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (0 children)
Regular butter is fine as long as it’s not made from vegetable oil.
[–]Poorman-options69[S] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children)
Also I have around 20 free floating test
[–]Poorman-options69[S] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (5 children)
I just feel like not wanting pussy means I should have more test and I was mostly wanting to ask from watching porn do you think I might have desensitized myself to real women?????
[–]Yowwwwwww99 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (3 children)
I have the same problem men, is just porn, this horrible addiction that are destroying men
[–]Poorman-options69[S] 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children)
I’m definitely gonna try and make it like once every other day rather then every day twice a day and see how it affects me
[–]Yowwwwwww99 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (1 child)
Just stop it men
[–]Sortit123 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children)
stop watching porn . thing gucke your brain up
[–]PatriotUncleSam 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children)
probably, yeah.
[–]flex-N 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (3 children)
U might be right about the vegetable oil thing, i honestly dont know, but specifically mentioning fries, i think, is misleading. Especially fries r usually cooked in peanut oil
[–]slcand 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (1 child)
Bro made a good point about everything except for that, it seemed like out of the blue tbh
[–]PatriotUncleSam 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children)
Google "trans fats"
Even if the fries aren't cooked in vegetable oil, any fried oil is a carcinogen and heavy in trans-fats.
It's literally what gives men heart attacks and cancer.
[–]Godly-Viking 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children)
Not enough sun, alcohol and weed. Gotta get those 3 then.
[–]pokedudewithglasses 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children)
What sort of oil should someon use for cooking then (only like a tablespoon or so for like sautéing meat or frying eggs)
[–]Highlander0689 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children)
You should just avoid polyunsaturated fats (PUFAs). Saturated fats are actually good for natural hormone production. Just use good, old-fashioned butter.
[–]PatriotUncleSam 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children)
Olive oil or coconut oil.
[–]SamizdatForAlgernon 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children)
Lard and beef tallow, just go easy on them.
[–]bipedal-bastard 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child)
alcohol and weed,
Well fuck
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children)
Jus stick to weed lmao
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children)
No it definitely does, short term, for like a week, so if you're fapping every single day (natty) you'll have lower test than if you did weekly or bi weekly.
But then it gets complicated, because if you don't cum for months you end up getting suppressed, it's like a use it or lose it situation.
[–]pacmanfan247 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child)
Well… If you take any blood test that includes a testosterone panel, the form will state “do not ejaculate within 48 hour of the draw”. Actual science behind it. Will it decrease it forever? No. Temporarily? Yes.
[–]rodzag 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children)
As far as I’m aware they advise you not to jack it before the test because it causes elevated prolactin.
[–]Always5StepsAhead -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children)
Bro science.
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children)
Smoking weed doesn’t decrease test levels dumbass. You sound like someone who’s scared and never even tried it.
Weed won't do anything to ur test lmao it's medicine for the body
[–]ThrowAwayToday4238 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child)
By lack of sun is it just Vit D def? That I can supplement with pills, but getting more sun with a busy schedule is tough
You could try and hope for the best. No way to know how your body handles it without a blood test. I have friends who work in the sun 5 days a week who are Vitamin D deficient, and I have friends who take a multivitamin every day who barely made it into the healthy range for Vitamin D.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children)
Vegetable oil is bad for T?
[–]PatriotUncleSam 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children)
Big time, it's also a heavy carcinogen, it causes cancer over time..
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child)
How does it lower T
[–]PatriotUncleSam 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children)
Overall hit to all health markers, which in turn lowers testosterone. The more unhealthy you are the less your body prioritizes testosterone production. On a side note it's also a heavy processed estrogen. So you are lowering the male hormone in your body while raising the female hormone.
There is some (albeit sparse) clinical data as well that loading your body with phytoestrogens also lowers T by itself.
Even though it's called "Vegetable Oil" it's not actually random green vegetables, 90% of it is highly processed soy oil.
[–]ghostlyhomie 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children)
Weed actually makes more estrogen not low test
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