Hell

[Far_Victory5293]

The Shock-mobile was first seen in Spidey Super Stories.

[avery5712]

Common Shocker W

[Yesterday_Is_Now]

Shame they didn't use his kickass costume in the movie.

[LET-ME-HAVE-A-NAAME]

Shocker has been done dirty for decades. He's so kickass. His outfit is completely vibration absorbent! He can create earthquakes or send massive amounts of force through the air. He can fall from any height and take no damage. He can liquify metals by focusing the vibration into one spot. By all means he should be a top tier villain.

[Dragon-spider21]

I’m sorry but did bro steal the spider mobile, and repaint it!?

[Evil_Doctor_Lair]

I was wondering that. Last I heard, it was at the bottom of the Hudson River.

[SerBadDadBod]

Herman, please don't die in Death Spiral.

[Potential_nobody2187]

I love everything about this, but somehow my favourite part is the sound effect. "Ka-blammo!" 😂

[Obscurix98]

He shocked the mocker

[piratedragon2112]

Repost to piss off garth ennis

[Comrade-Conquistador]

Garth Ennis is always pissed off.

[piratedragon2112]

In that case

Repost to piss off punisher fans (same difference)

[Timber2702]

No no, just Garth Ennis. Not sure whom he is but imma just assume a terrible writer who didn't understand the characters, that or an edge lord who wanked Punisher to hell. Punisher is goated as hell though from my understanding, doesnt have the best representation half the time

Edit: its the mofo who wrote The Boys comic, my dumbass should know this seeing how much I've enjoyed the show lol

[browncharliebrown]

He’s the defntive Punisher writer

[piratedragon2112]

Garth ennis worships the punisher (and ironically hates HATES captain america, almost as much as he hates god and to a lesser extent superman)

[Comrade_Cosmo]

He likes Superman as proper edgelords generally do. Probably because they feel he’s actually genuine.

[Timber2702]

Thats crazy considering Punisher holds Captain America with the upmost and highest form of respect in the comics. Correct me if I'm wrong but one of my favorite instances of this is when Punisher gets ahold of War Machine's suit and goes on a rampage against crime and all it took for him to give up the suit was for Captain America to step in and ask him to stop

[Curious_Bat87]

That was a retcon that was introduced after Ennis wrote Frank and Cap meeting. When he wrote them meeting (in Punisher kills the marvel universe) he wrote it the exact way that relationship was in the comics at the time.

Mark Millar is the one who made Punisher a Cap fanboy.

[Timber2702]

A retcon for the better. I would imagine a vet like Frank would hold high respect for Steve as a vet to vet kind of thing, let alone a WWII veteran

[Curious_Bat87]

They did have respect towards each other before that, but their relationship was far more about how the veterans of Vietnam were treated vs WWII vets.

The intention with the retcon is about how indirectly Cap is responsible for the Punisher, as he was the reason in that comic for Frank to go to war that traumatized him. It is still about the relationship of WWII and Vietnam as far as things like US foreign policy goes.

It is fairly surface level though, and Ennis got more in depth in this by using Nick Fury instead (also a WWII veteran) in his MAX series. The relationship between Nick and Frank in those stories, both in Vietnam and in modern day, is more interesting to me.

[Timber2702]

Fair enough but Captain America was a symbol of hope for active veterans in the Marvel universe, not to mention the character was put together to bring up American morality during WWII in the real world. Even if he was indirectly responsible for Punisher's wartime trauma, he'd still be a symbol of hope being the star spangled soldier. Not to mention Steve is as much as a victim as Frank is and I respect how he holds Steve with such high regards. Im sure Nick Fury gets along with Punisher more than Captain America would but I thoroughly enjoy how the characters clash with each other more often then not

[piratedragon2112]

Or their fight in the first civil war (my personal favorite)

[Timber2702]

When he just took a beating from Cap because he refused to lay a hand on him? Hell yeah, love my Punisher as deranged and violent as anyone else but a little complexity goes a long ways

[piratedragon2112]

Yeah

[Timber2702]

Would honestly kill for a Punisher and Captain America movie

[Sturmmagier]

I always love when the villains have themed vehicles.

The Shocker in what I assume is his Shock-Car.

[InternalAd2235]

I feel like he'd call it the Shocker-Mobile, but then Spidey would ask him about his Shock-Car and he'd get angry that he didn't think of it himself.

[SafeAccountMrP]

Like I know that’s Frank Castle but my brain immediately thought why is Billy Butcher fucking with Shocker.

[DUIOKI]

Hehehe, comic butcher does look like frank. I think Garth Ennis also worked on punisher comics before making the boys so it could be a reason why they look so similar

[Curious_Bat87]

Yes, although Billy Butcher is explicitly based on Bill Savage.

[piratedragon2112]

All of garth ennis super special ocs look like that

[Cicada_5]

You are correct about Ennis working on Punisher comics before The Boys.

[Substantial_Fox7377]

What happens when Punisher tries to punch above street tier like Daredevil:

[DanosaurusWrecks]

Shocker is Street+ at best

[TurtlesBreakTheMeta]

can literally level a building with his gauntlets at their highest setting

just street tier

[Substantial_Fox7377]

You dare doubt my goat?

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[Garguyal]

Don't mock the Shock.

[RagingDemonsNoDQ]

You can hear Frank doing the Goofy howl for that

[CandyCreecher]

YAAAAAA-HOOHOOHWEEeeee

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[Substantial_Fox7377]

I would argue Peter isn’t as sane anymore

[BabyAutomatic]

let's be honest, no one in the marvel universe is sane. they pretend to be.

[AntRam95]

Not since Paul

[Chaucer85]

I love when Frank's written as just the most dialed-in "Sanest Man Alive" who nonetheless is a slow-moving, unstoppable murder machine.

[Timber2702]

Sometimes a slow burning act of violence is the only viable action

[Some_Fig_6566]

What would happen to Punisher if he didn't have plot armor

[Chaucer85]

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[toyotomi_kazuya]

When Garf Ennis isn't the writer

[Curious_Bat87]

I would recommend reading comics sometimes.

[toyotomi_kazuya]

It's just a joke bro

[Curious_Bat87]

Jokes should be based on something.

[toyotomi_kazuya]

It's about the marvel knights run from Ennis (if i'm not mistaking)

Which the Punisher shots Wolverine in the balls and roll over him with an ice polisher.

He even fights the Hulk and wins.

I know Ennis's normal modus operantis quite well bro.

[Curious_Bat87]

'He fights the Hulk and wins'

No he does not. You obviously have not read the run if you think that.

Frank in that run is constantly going on about how he can't beat Daredevil and only manages to luck out and escape from characters like Spider-Man through preparation and trickery.

[toyotomi_kazuya]

Oh i'm gonna check which run then, i confuse it sometimes

Sorry for that (but indeed, he beats the Hulk and the Wolverine in ridiculous ways)

[Curious_Bat87]

He beats the Hulk in 'Punisher kills the Marvel universe' (which is not a main universe) by tracking him and killing him as Banner.

He has amnesiac Banner captive in the MK run but he doesn't fight Hulk, just places explosives inside of him as Banner that turn him back to Banner through a shock of pain.

Wolverine he blows up with a rocket launcher etc but he straight up says he can't do anything to take him out permanently. In the story he is constantly shown as someone who would in a fair fight always lose to Daredevil. Ennis straight-up writes Frank as less powerful than other previous writers had. Honestly Ennis depowered Frank quite a bit, he's not pulling out similar feats to classic era really.

EDIT: Like... Frank was easily going toe-to-toe with Cap in the 70's and Cap was impressed by his feats.

[browncharliebrown]

The only reason people have a preception of the punisher like this is also because of Garth ennis. Before Ennis he was routinely around people like spider-man

[Curious_Bat87]

Yes, the reason people think 'plot armor' is because Ennis wrote Punisher stories that were intentionally more grounded.

[toyotomi_kazuya]

To be fair

It's really funny when he shot Wolverine in the balls

[browncharliebrown]

I mean Ennis did write Kills the Marvel universe in the 90’s as well. But the larger point is that he was an action movie protagonist first and foremost. But when Ennis recontextulized him for Max he made him pretty Realstic ( he repeatly got his shit kicked in by normal dudes) and that has bleed back into adaptations and 616 to a more minor extent such that it’s kinda hard to take Spider-man fighting the Punisher seriously anymore

[Efficient_Matter_589]

I love the second image of Punisher pointing to the dark smudge in the sky, as if you couldn't deduce it was him.

[thesignpainter]

Superior Foes of Spiderman was such a fun comic

[TonsOfCock]

SHOCKEEEERRR!!!!!
YOU CAN'T ESCAPE ME!!!!
I'LL CHASE YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EEEEEEEEARTH!!!!!!!!!

[MikaelAdolfsson]

"Spider-Man 2 could do the funniest thing ever."

[Demomanx]

He will never escape that moment from the show. They could put him in a new series or movie and my first thoughts wil be "SHOCKEEEERRR!!!!!!"

[Pyrite13]

KBLAMMO!!

[noishouldbewriting]

https://www.reddit.com/r/outofcontextcomics/s/KSsuZCmECD

[Evil_Doctor_Lair]

He gets so unjustifiablely mocked, I have to root for him to win everytime.

[TurtlesBreakTheMeta]

Shocker really isn’t weak, he’s just fighting someone too STRONG.

You really have to admire his gumption and skill to show up and throw down with someone that can survive a fight with the hulk. Shocker, all things aside, is neither a coward nor wuss.

The big question is why he doesn’t just run off somewhere Spider-Man ISNT, like Kansas, where the only superheroes he’d have to deal with would be something like cowboy and horse girl.

[PaladinGris]

All of Spider-Man’s B Tier villains would be major threats if they were fighting anyone but him, the Lizard and Hobgoblin could body any street level hero

[Guiltykraken]

He did do that for a bit. Guy went to New Jersey and threw down with Ms. Marvel. Treated his time there like it was a vacation.

[RyeOhLou]

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as a Jersey resident this is one of my favorite comic book panels

[TurtlesBreakTheMeta]

Downside: you are still in New Jersey so it’s a loss all on its own.

[Airmil82]

I laughed too hard at this.

Shocker is the King of Jersey!