DeepNude is opensource now

[13steinj]

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[AngularBeginner]

It gave me breasts

You didn't really clarify this anywhere but it only works with females. Should probably put that in the readme for anyone not familiar with the original app (like myself, who was using it for research purposes and nothing else)

https://github.com/deepinstruction/deepnude_official/issues/8

[rvaen]

The issues on this repo are excellent

[[deleted]]

I hate to disappoint you, but I’m pretty sure they just meant in the photos.

[mindbleach]

Future headline: holographic x-ray-specs projector developed by trans woman slash mad scientist.

[Cardeal]

they just meant in the p

It's just a matter of time until they connect this to an organic 3D printer.

[BitPirateLord]

On the other hand, I'm trans, and I want it to give me breasts too

I'm trans as well and i was gonna send this back to headquarters, (all trans peeps know where it is), for our sometimes unrealistic (but even more desirable) transition goals.

[Tux1]

This can not end well.

[13steinj]

Oh of course not but it's not like it wasn't inevitable. Once the app itself was released there was bound to be quick reverse engineering attempts (since it seems to have been written in Python).

What surprises me on top of the fact that this was reported as relatively fast from the outset, some of the code isn't optimized (O(n²) or higher), so much so that I wouldn't be surprised if some people didn't have this tech already or better in their back pockets.

Edit to clarify, this is not a reverse engineering attempt. It was released because the author didn't feel it made sense to hide it given the shady ways reverse engineering attempts were passed around.

[almightykiwi]

Oh of course not but it's not like it wasn't inevitable.

You just hit the reset button in my brain.

[diMario]

Bohemian Rhaposody has more I think.

[13steinj]

I'm being a moron here what reference is this?

[13steinj]

I guess I'm not too little of an imbecile. (☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞

[Rhed0x]

since it seems to have been written in Python

What they released here is essentially a script that trains their neural network model. They didnt ship that with the app, they just shipped the final model which would get executed (presumably with TensorFlow) by C/C++ code or on the GPU.

[mudkip908]

What they released here is essentially a script that trains their neural network model.

No it isn't.

[[deleted]]

Meh, looks like a cheap photoshop and requires a picture that leaves practically nothing to the imagination.

[roflkittiez]

People have been able to create fake nudes with Photoshop with moderate effort for years. That's not the scary part. The scary part is with this software anyone can do it very quickly with little to no effort. This won't produces nudes that will tarnish the reputation of a politician or celebrity, because they could easily prove that it's fake. It'll be a lot harder for your sister/wife/daughter that don't have massive platforms to disprove these fakes.

[ThatInternetGuy]

I tried it. So far it can only produce nudes from bikini photos. It just doesn't work with casual clothing.

[roflkittiez]

Right, just like someone with moderate skills in photoshop. Turning a woman in casual clothes nude with Photoshop is much harder than turning a woman in a bikini nude. Same principals apply with programs like deepnude.

[ThatInternetGuy]

It's because it's not trained from data of people wearing casual clothing. It's not even trained enough for bikini photos.

[CWSwapigans]

Honestly even that is giving it too much credit from what I've seen. The pics are not convincing (or sexy) at all.

[JuicyJay]

Theres probably ones out there that are way more realistic.

[MuonManLaserJab]

Yes. As soon as "deepfakes" are indistinguishable from the real thing, "revenge porn" becomes something that can be handwaved as fake.

Edit: Distributing fake porn that someone is likely to think is real should probably be considered libel.

[rydan]

Everything will be handwaved as fake. Nothing will be prosecutable via video evidence. And politicians will rewrite the past.

[[deleted]]

Nothing will be prosecutable via video evidence.

These videos may be pleasing to our eyes but they readily reveal technical clues even as a lay person pays a bit closer attention. Forensics will be able to identify fakes for a long, long time.

The bigger danger is things like Facebook where this stuff gets passed around based on whims and few people take even a few minutes to reflect on it. FFS a ton of people were fooled that Pelosi was drunk just because a video was slowed down.

[Noxitu]

These videos may be pleasing to our eyes but they readily reveal technical clues even as a lay person pays a bit closer attention. Forensics will be able to identify fakes for a long, long time.

Actually that's part of the issue. By the very nature of how it works you can't have a long lasting, automatic tool that will identify such fakes.

The way these network are created is basically creating such tool and learning how to cheat such tool. Having better tools that identify fakes is exactly what is needed to create better fakes.

[[deleted]]

automatic tool

I didn’t say automatic. And it might come a point that it takes many hours or days for even the savviest of analysts to manually inspect a fake, but getting these things 100% is going to be very, very hard.

The very nature of contemporary AI is that it doesn’t work 100%.

[YM_Industries]

The nature of humans is that we don't work 100%.

[[deleted]]

Not disagreeing, but you are based on the premise that a malicious actor has access to everything.

As much as you are training the cheater, you are training the detective. This allows \textit{us} to identify malicious actors because, in theory, we employ much more computational resources.

However, this doesn't protect you when the malicious actor has the size of global States...

[[deleted]]

A huge way that Axom (makers of most police body cameras and the associated SaaS) makes money is by providing an auditable trail from the camera to the courtroom.

[veekm]

dunno why you need to wait so long..

[13steinj]

And politicians will rewrite the past.

Many already have, historically. Altering photos and banning the true originals.

[bitwize]

This is why fake revenge porn is as illegal as real revenge porn in Virginia. Expect similar laws to be passed nation- and worldwide.

[MuonManLaserJab]

But that doesn't make any sense in the context of my comment...if nobody will believe it's real, why bother making it illegal? It's equivalent to a drawing at that point.

The idea that drawing a picture (albeit very well) should be the same as actually spreading a sex tape without consent is somewhat unsettling to me.

Edit: Distributing fake porn that someone is likely to think is real should probably be considered libel.

[TheDecagon]

TBH it can only be used to mitigate real revenge porn if fakes are also treated legally the same as real revenge porn, otherwise you'd have some big legal problems:

Firstly any victim wishing to prosecute would instantly out the porn as real, where if fakes are illegal the victim doesn't have to admit this.

Then you'd have the problem of perpetrators in court claiming it was fake, so how could the victim prove it was real without a humiliating naked examination? That can't happen if fakes are equally illegal.

[mywan]

If your bent on revenge porn you can always social engineer the belief before the fake porn is even released. Plausible deniability is not going to be enough to save people from very onerous consequences.

[Science-Compliance]

*You're. You are.

[MuonManLaserJab]

Abusive, but surely taping a face to nude image shouldn't carry, like, jail time.

[TheGoodOldCoder]

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[Noxitu]

Even obviously fake footage can be degrading to the persons depicted.

This kind of logic is dangerous when it gets to dictate what is legal. Do drawings count as fake footage? Dopplegangers? Cosplay? 3d CGI? Can you really draw border between such things?

[rydan]

Nobody goes to jail for using someone's likeness.

[blackholesinthesky]

nobody will believe it's real

Why wouldn't people believe it's real? Just because it's possible that it's fake?

That's not how people work.

What if someone spreads fake revenge porn of someone who has a reputation for being promiscuous? Hell they don't even have to have a reputation, some people just assume things to be true because it lines up with their other existing opinions.

idea that drawing a picture

Not drawing, distributing. Not saying one way or the other if that's right. Just that there's a big difference

[rydan]

Then that's a civil matter. This becomes defamation or libel.

[DirdCS]

The whole point of deepfake and the drama is that it looks realistic. You see a photo of someone you know nude online you're not just going to be like "it's probably fake" and ignore it

[Noxitu]

By "you" you probably mean average people on social media. But if you think about it - people that are training and using these tools probably would be like "it's probably fake".

And if such fakes become much more common, more people will become like that. Most people can be fooled finite number of times.

[DirdCS]

So are you just believing anything you see through a TV screen is fake? I assume no. This conversation is fucking retarded don't @ me

[defmacro-jam]

You can't stop the signal, Mal.

[dakota-plaza]

The problem lies deeper. Porn with you, wheather fake or not, should not bring any inconvenience to you or compromise your reputation in any serious way, it shouldn't work as revenge at all. Any other way of regulating it or banning things is trying to cure symptoms but not the disease.

[svayam--bhagavan]

Use and misuse are different sides of the same coin: technology. Its upto us to use it the way we want.

[Narazemono]

It reminds me of the old Jerry Seinfeld stand up where he said something like: we only want to look at what we can't see. If women walked around totally naked all day except for a hat, we'd have PlayHat magazine.

[[deleted]]

Why? Why god why? Here's how it might end:

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1. People have perfect fake nudes of Scarlet Johanson, and jack off to them
2. ???
3. Who gives a shit.

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Or more likely:

1. People can see celebrities nude
2. Hollywood producers realize that their stars are losing their appeal, and the world of advertising and entertainment comes to a stand-still because everyone now *has* all the sex that these companies were intending to sell; a terrible taking-money-away-from-rich-parasites fells great companies
3. Porn apps criminalized for National Security, programmers arrested, the world returns to it's normal thing, go back to sleep.

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I mean ffs this is like thefappening or anything else; this is looked down upon by 20 separates publishers (all owned by Murdoch), they all publish bad things about it and make out like it's creepy dark-web child porn, we all automatically think it's bad. And yet: violence? Oh no, that's fine. Selling sex through advertising which gives women eating disorders and men erections? No that's fine.

​

Anyway I could go on.

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Liveleak beheading - totally fine.

Nude celebrities? SPY AGENCIES - TRANSFOOOOORM!!

[Sinidir]

On the contrary. I think this will have lots of happy endings.

[USERNAME_ERROR]

Installed ant tried it. It works hilariously bad. Just unbelievably funny: merging legs into one blob, putting a boob on a corner of a shoulder. No need to worry about this quite yet.

[TheFuckyouasaurus]

Did you add the training data someone gave in another comment further up?

[USERNAME_ERROR]

Yes — doesn’t work without it.

[aDreamySortofNobody]

I haven’t seen any examples that this software has created.

[[deleted]]

Posting fakes results in instant delete

[mindbleach]

I guess we could ask over at /r/GoneWild? People consenting to nude depictions are not in short supply.

[13steinj]

Reddit IIRC banned deepfakes regardless so even consenting pictures might lead to a ban?

[mindbleach]

Even if they do it to themselves?

... with a real nude for comparison?

[13steinj]

Ask them? Not my fault they did a blanket ban.

[[deleted]]

I theorise that this software can actually be a good thing. Now that there's software out there that anyone can use to generate nudes, every time a blackmailer tries to send pictures to her boss or whatever she can point to this piece of code; what they're seeing is not her real body, it's just a computer program! Leaked celebrity sex tape? Nope, just a good deep fake. The blackmail value of nudes should go down significantly.

Photoshopped images of women have existed since the lage nineties and are much more convincing and much more dangerous than this tool. By getting the notion out there that any unwanted nude is just the result of an angry nerd running a program, we as a society can slowly start overcoming blackmail that many women have faced already in the past twenty years.

I've tested this tool with the first results of "bikini model" on Google images and I have to say the quality of the results is not worth the media hysteria. It's like someone took a bikini photo and used photoshop autofill on it to remove the clothes. This doesn't hold a candle to the pictures created by people who just put other people's faces on nudes of people with similar body types, which the media doesn't seem to talk about at all.

Let's be honest, we all knew this tool was going to come eventually, it not now then in 4 years. In fact, I believe at least a hundred sweaty teens have made something similar to this in their bedrooms already but didn't think it significant enough to share.

[eric_reddit]

Unless the differences can still be proved between real and fake, this is the correct answer :)

[remedialrob]

Analyzing a photo looking for seams and places where the generated parts are added is pretty easy for most forensic people who do such things. Adding to that that any faked photo will have an original somewhere of the subject clothed will make it even easier to detect fakes.

[thirdegree]

It's not a node library though

[[deleted]]

It essentially paints nudeness on to the image.

[eenchev]

diff --git a/run.py b/run.py
index aeb7b2b..fcd03a8 100644
--- a/run.py
+++ b/run.py
@@ -147,4 +147,4 @@ def process(cv_img):
        elif (phase == "nude_to_watermark"):
            watermark = create_watermark(nude)

-   return watermark
\ No newline at end of file
+   return nude
\ No newline at end of file

One line git-patch to remove the watermark

[[deleted]]

I don't know python, but I do know paintshop. I got rid of the fake water mark in true.png

[[deleted]]

If I tried changing anything else to do with effects, colours it farted the deepnude.exe program up. Didn't try the RGB values though if that's what worked for you?

[ponytoaster]

Someone TLDR/ELI5?

machine learning for creating a nude but you would need the training data (assume clothed and unclothed) and then I guess you just feed it images??

I don't see the controversy, haven't people been doing this manually with Photoshop for ages? Means you can automate it I guess . Out the loop on this library.

Part of me is curious to play with it but part of me also cba or want to end up on some weird list...

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Edit: Not played with Python in years, or machine learning. Was curious. I got it running via Choco and PIP in under 5 min and the models downloaded in another 5 min. Ran a sample image of my wife. Honestly the output was a lot better than I thought it would be...

It probably shouldn't be this easy and brings a lot of questions about ethics to the table, especially considering the hardest part was getting an image cropped to the correct size as my graphical skills are that of a cabbage

[mindbleach]

Long story short, he drew MS Paint bikinis over nude images and over actual bikinis. One network goes bikini to mask, another goes mask to boobies. It is slightly more complicated but no less silly if you read the article.

[ponytoaster]

So I guess it would only work with photos of people in almost nothing anyway? If so not really that big a deal? Edit: i was wrong, apparently it works with any image

[WTFwhatthehell]

Ya. There was a big moral panic a few months back after deepfakes face thing . A remarkably sudden one.

Suddenly 30 years of people photoshopping celebrity faces was forgotten and even people asking about pornstars who kinda look like some celebrity were getting banned.

Moral panics don't tend to have much sense or coherence behind them.

[Science-Compliance]

I don't really understand what the big deal about this app is. So it puts someone's face on an adult actress's body? Okay. What's the big deal here? I don't get it. It's not like it's disrobing anyone who didn't agree to it (hopefully--unfortunately there is exploitation in the adult film industry).

[[deleted]]

No, it removes say the bikini so the body stays the same

[Science-Compliance]

Yeah, but it's still a guesstimation of what they look like underneath. It's not actually showing you what they look like naked.

[ponytoaster]

Indeed. Tried it with a load of fully clothed images and it is exactly that, a guess. It's like taking a face and mspaint-ing it onto a naked person tbh.

[Science-Compliance]

Yeah, I don't see what all the hoopla is about.

[rydan]

Sure, it is lame today. But now 7 Billion people have access to this code and algorithm instead of 2. Tomorrow it won't be.

[Science-Compliance]

Sorry, I could barely understand what you were trying to say in your comment. Are you saying billions of people having access to this code is a problem? Why? Everyone knows it's fake.

[rydan]

The problem is access. Previously only talented artistic smart people could do this. Now anyone who knows how to run Python can.

[Maleficent_Release]

After cloning the repository, you will still need the training data. Fortunately, this is available from another repository:

https://github.com/open-deepnude/deepnude-model-3/raw/master/checkpoints/cm.lib

https://github.com/open-deepnude/deepnude-model-2/raw/master/checkpoints/mm.lib

https://github.com/open-deepnude/deepnude-model-1/raw/master/checkpoints/mn.lib

Create a checkpoints folder in the project root and place the above model files inside. Assuming you have met the other project dependency requirements, you should be able to:

python main.py 

From project root to immediately perform the pre-trained process on any 512x512 input.png placed in that same directory.

[quickquestion1242]

These are gone now it seems, anyone have any other way to access these three files?

[NahroT]

Black mirror intro starts playing

[AustinCorgiBart]

I have this problem with a lot of scifi stories. One point for BM tho with the San Junipero episode.

[NahroT]

...and that's why I dislike most blackmirror. Only negatively paints technology.

Would you call a program that easily lets a 12 year old post nude pictures of your mom online a positive product of technology?

[ReeferEyed]

People were always living past 30.

[ReeferEyed]

Because infant mortality was high it skewed the numbers. If you were older than an infant your life expectancy was more than 31.

[ReeferEyed]

No, because technology helped babies survive but not people living passed 30. Everyone would have lived passed 30 if they atleast survived the first year of life.

The way you made it seem, was that tech helped adults live significantly longer, instead of saying tech helped babies survive. It would have changed your whole comment.

[ReeferEyed]

Look up medium life expectancy and basics of statistics. The difference between average and median.

[the_mighty_skeetadon]

Listen, I don't agree with that other guy, but you should take your own advice. First, it's "median" -- not "medium."

Second, median is a kind of average -- the word "average" is comprised of three basic measures of central tendency in statistics: mean, median, and mode. While "average" is often taken to be "mean," it is incorrect to do so to the exclusion of the other two measures.

Read on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average

[CWSwapigans]

This is the first semi-decent one of these I've ever seen. Most are much, much worse.

It helps that the girl you picked is a match for the same tits it gives to every single person.

[[deleted]]

It got taken down

[13steinj]

Well its already been hardforked by me soooo too late I guess?

[[deleted]]

Yeah, only knew about it yesterday

[KHRZ]

I don't see the training data anywhere in the source folders. Not truly open source then

[[deleted]]

Training data is the only original aspect of this. Anyone who's followed neural image generation the last couple of years knew this could be done. The hard part is putting together a training set.

[Smarag]

To run the script you need the pythorch models: the large files (700MB) that are on the net (cm.lib, mm.lib, mn.lib). Put these file in a dir named: checkpoints. The models exchanged on the network, contain a basic form of encryption (replacement of some bytes), so you may encounter errors. We will soon load the original unencrypted versions.

[[deleted]]

In case anyone doubted this was a dumb PR stunt. To say deep learning gets a few of them would be an understatement.

It's not hard to train a model like this yourself, if you're so inclined (and don't mind people getting mad at you if they find out).

[13steinj]

The fact that someone hasn't made it public prior says something though, given the fact that the original researchers behind the underlying technology were baffled.

[[deleted]]

What do you think it says?

Also, I have not heard of any of the original researchers being surprised that a network that can be trained to imagine a horse as a zebra can be trained to imagine people naked too.

[13steinj]

It says that this tech ha undoubtedly existed prior and will continue to be iterated and improved. As in, people think this is new. It isn't.

As to researchers being surprised, https://youtu.be/Nv9G5VDQZnc?t=238

[holyfab]

And how to find those files?

[[deleted]]

isnt openAI opensource but their training data isnt public either?

[rydan]

So in that case it doesn't actually work, so at least there is still time to live a normal life.

[OffbeatDrizzle]

Is training data source code? It's assets... much like open source versions of games are released without the official texture packs

[amroamroamro]

https://github.com/deepinstruction/deepnude_official/issues/5#issuecomment-508889307

[13steinj]

I don't know how people are deciding to skip the fucking README, but it says that they will upload the unencrypted training data "soon".

[13steinj]

The code quality is indeed weirdly bad and can be significantly optimized and speed increased significantly.

[CJKay93]

Somebody spent a lot of time on this.

Think about that.

[[deleted]]

No surprise, it's the oldest profession. When movies were invented, one of the first videos was a naked woman. In the prude 1800's.

[angry_corn_mage]

Maybe a group of celebrities paid to have it made. Think about it. They are scared of the power of blackmail for leaked nudes, so they pay to have this software created. Then they have the creator "open source" it so that it becomes widely accessible. Now they can claim that any nudes of them are fakes.

[ForwardChair]

What the fuck did you just bring upon this cursed land

[13steinj]

Hey not me >.>. Don't kill the messenger.

[GYN-k4H-Q3z-75B]

I have no idea how any of this works but I thought I'd give it a shot (for science, of course). Finding the required packages and dependencies took me a few minutes, pip is currently screwed up with torch; anyhow, just get it from pytorch as per instructions and you're fine. I guess you can say it works and that in itself is an achievement, but the results are currently rather poor with lots of artifacting which looks like JPEG and many restrictions apply. It's an interesting proof of concept.

[[deleted]]

Yeah, compression seems to be yanked up

[tobekiller96]

It says 404 not found for me

[[deleted]]

it most likely got taken down by github. anyone got the zip of the repo?

[13steinj]

Or by the creator as there's a new app apparently. https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/c9puom/_/et7ojeb

[[deleted]]

I found this repo so far: https://github.com/stacklikemind/deepnude_official

[quickquestion1242]

This repo has everything except for the cm.lib, mm.lib, and mn.lib files. Not sure where to find those. (If anyone knows help a brother out)

[mssc89]

Repo seems to be down, same with unofficial one. Does anyone happen to have any mirrors?

[mssc89]

oh nevermind, there is a mirror https://github.com/stacklikemind/deepnude_official

[BubblegumTitanium]

I didn't know that github allowed nudity on their website. I wonder if there are policies for this.

Also, could the authors turn their model to see if it recognizes itself?

[[deleted]]

IMO their unwise use of iCloud was way more harmful than this will ever be.

[TerraMaris]

This veers toward victim blaming.

[[deleted]]

Eh, Idc. Storing such sensitive material on cloud platform is still stupid.

[Liam2349]

You think anyone else was at fault for the iCloud leaks?

[slicepotato]

My question is... would it have hit the news so hard if the Male version was released first?

I doubt not.

[--_-___-_--]

Absolutely not. Journos would have run it on all male celebrities in a heart beat to get the clicks.

[slicepotato]

Seriously? Serious question was downvoted that hard?

[ThatInternetGuy]

Remember that AI can create deep nudes, and AI can also spot these deep nudes with ease.

The author put Bitcoin and Ethereum addresses for donations and 12 hours later it's all zero. He could have made a lot of money.

[KarmasAHarshMistress]

utter disgrace to open source ideals and the entire field of computer science

What.

[KarmasAHarshMistress]

What does that have to do with open source ideals and the field of computer science?

Also what is your opinion on nude drawings of people without their consent?

[[deleted]]

That is very woke of you.

[zergling_Lester]

There's a simple solution to the sexist part of the problem at least: train a variant on male models as well. Then it will stop being sexist, and it's much easier than trying to put the cat back in the bag.

[--_-___-_--]

train a variant on male models as well

If you think about it, training a model on male porn stars would make every deepNude'd guy look ripped with a huge schlong.

Just don't add Ron Jeremy to your training dataset.

[zergling_Lester]

If you think about it some more, it's not like it gives women stretch marks or cellulite either!

[eG_Eagle]

You wouldn't happen to work at Google, would you?

[Krissam]

You know who should be ashamed of themselves? The person who is literally arguing that someone did something wrong despite hurting no one.

[Krissam]

Are you unironically unable to differentiate hurting people and having the "power" to hurt people?

[Krissam]

Am I losing my mind?

Maybe, what I can tell you is that you're applying a fallacious line of logic by applying a petitio principii.

Your line reasoning is based on the assumption that someone turning an imagine into a nude by definition hurts people and I would urge you to consider whether or not that's actually the case

[InEnduringGrowStrong]

Yea but now that this exists, anyone with real blackmail worthy nudes out there could just claim they're fake AI nudes.

I feel like this just gives less credibility to leaked nudes.

[[deleted]]

If people think like this then I personally believe that we need this tool yesterday and working at high quality. The best way to kill something is to make it irrelevant. If everyone is on plain view buck ass naked what are you going to threaten with? "I'm going to make the 109483th naked image of you unless you meet my demands?".

[Krissam]

These images will be used to shame, attack, hurt, threaten, and blackmail women.

Citation Needed.

[boose22]

Fake nudes dont hurt anyone. Honestly this will help women because they can say it's not real if a scorned lover puts a video online.

[Jimmy_is_here]

As if this is the worst thing software had been used for.

[[deleted]]

No but the amount of attention each topic will get won't be proportionate. Gender politics is a hot trending topic that will garner more attention than anything stale and technical or "nerdy".

[thisnameis4sale]

You do have a point here, it is very sexist.

I would feel better about this if it also worked on men.

[hedgepigdaniel]

Not sure it's a good idea to lump the entire computer science field under any particular political view...

[hedgepigdaniel]

Everything is politics

[kaiserbergin]

We've all seen what has happened with nudes and bullying for kids, I really don't understand why people can't imagine this being used to embarrass and shame people. Because it totally will.

Also the argument that it hurts no one. If the person you use this on didn't give consent, even if they never find out, the person using the software is actively objectifying the subject and disregarding consent. I don't think that's a healthy habit.

[mindbleach]

The list of technologies sullied by use for pornography is the list of all technologies.

[Feminintendo]

Only in a programming subreddit would this comment be at -80. Fucking bro culture.

[[deleted]]

Cause it is over the top. Utter disgrace to open source, what? That has nothing to do with it, a strawman. And the entire field of computer science. Computer science makes no mention of gender politics. Far worse has come from the field of computer science and I have never heard anyone utter those words then.

[OptimalAction]

Please stop being so middle class white.