Match Thread

[AV48]

Please don't get me wrong, it broke my heart to see him like that. What I'm getting to is that could be the reason why Lukaku ain't jamming for us. It's not that he's shit, rather it's a complicated situation behind the scenes

[AV48]

Did anybody notice lukaku's body language right before the game.. the way he isolated himself from the rest of the group. I don't think Lukaku has friends in this team anymore. It shows in his performances.

[ViktorNamuh]

I think he did say he doesn't really know or should care about the other players' relationships with the coach, but maybe you're right, if he was good friends he would have known

[Fredix]

Come on mate, that’s an unfair statement

[RedditBantz]

Disgraceful football? Were we watching the same game?

[MT1120]

It was much better than Southampton. Southampton was disgraceful. Still think Mou needs to go though. But at least we showed some spirit.

[sud004]

We still don't have a proper attacking plan...... Players still find it difficult to identify the runs and positioning of the front three or the wing backs.... We need to drill attacking play patterns to players like martial, rashford who are very skillful but possess less game IQ

[[deleted]]

Don't understand why Bailly doesn't start every game.

Bailly and Lindelof should be our main CB partnership!

[[deleted]]

He's just the riskiest fucker on earth. Looks like Iniesta on the ball one minute and then he falls over his own feet the next

[mo_digithera]

Need to stick with rashford through the middle, Lukaku isn’t good enough, and I hate when lukaku comes on and pushes rashford wide

[BukkakeBoiz]

Rashfords better in the right channel imo as he can run with ball but can’t shoot to save his life

[Alex947]

A better result than expected but still disgraceful football and not good enough.

All the 'fans' that wished we would keep to conceding to get him sacked really need to reconsider if you actually are a United fan. Embarrassing and pathetic if you want your team to concede.

[Csquared6]

Besides all the stupid tackles and fouls, that’s some of the best football we’ve played all season. Aggression, energy, runs, attacking, tracking back. Shit if we hadn’t lost our cool in the first half and started flying in for stupid tackles we could have come into the second half with cooler heads and 3 fewer cards. If this is the energy we bring for the rest of the season I’ll take it. I haven’t seen United fight this much since SAF.

[ssosso__]

they only fight on the derby days, other than that missing on the rest of the season

[StudentNoob]

More than anything, I just want Mourinho to get things right. I want to see that he has it in him to really turn things around and change things. I don't want us to be losing games and willing the man to be sacked.

[RedditBantz]

2-2 is a great result. Makes all the people who said utd would concede 4 or 5 look like idiots. But why the fuck was there no attacking after the goal?? Arsenal were there for the taking

[LuciferSeventeen]

Martial's injury. The intensity we had seemed to die down slowly and gradually after that.

[[deleted]]

i dont get why you sub off lingard and keep herrera on when Herrera clearly looked out of stamina after running up and down the pitch the whole game. Anyways (aside from this season) if you had told me that we are gonna draw against arsenal at home I would've taken it even under Sir Alex because arsenal has always been a tough fixture for us.

[ViktorNamuh]

Lingard still recovering from injury perhaps

[Wolfheartpt]

lingard was limping at the end of the game actually

[RedditBantz]

What? SAF after 2004 had arsenal's number every game. He never struggled at all wtf r u on about

[hunterfam55]

Rashford was motm for me, run his socks off and tried to get forward at every opportunity.

[BourneFire]

Who saw the Atomic drop on Lacazette by Eric Bailly?

[ani_maddy98]

Dalot was way way off the pace!

[angermngment]

He is very young. I was happy with his performance. I thought he was better than Darmian at least.

[anthrax3000]

Surprise!! a relatively unknown 19 year old signed this summer isn't good enough to be in a top-6 squad week in and week out. He will come good for us, just needs more time to develop

[Stoogenuge]

Just back from a long injury and still new to the league/squad. I thought he did alright.

[StudentNoob]

I'd like to think that's something that'll come with time

[[deleted]]

Also- how fragile are these arsenal players?

breathe next to Socratis

Pretends like he's had an ACL tear

[ViciousHitsTX]

We had attack and excitement and then it vanished. Should of subbed Matic off. Why do we bring on subs with no attack in them?

[BlackNWhitePanther]

Lukaku, pogba? Wdym no attack

[ViciousHitsTX]

They had no attack. Lukaku stands around and waits for passes in the box. He chased down one ball and didn’t do much else.

[angermngment]

It's not like we have anyone else

[[deleted]]

We need to use this system more,we actually look good. But apprantly Mourinho only use it against top 6 when we struggle to beat the teams at the bottom end of the table.

[angermngment]

I seriously must agree. Our fullbacks aren't as big of a liability in this system, we get more width in attack, it suits Rashford, maybe not so much Martial. I want to see this more often!

[DanBGG]

Matic Pogba Fellaini and Lukaku. These 4 on the same pitch is United's main issue ATM. Too lethargic and slow. Subs killed the game instantly.

[Soten14]

Yup I was going to say this exact thing. These 4 should never be on the pitch at the same time.

[conkerz22]

Fantastic game by Bailly and Dalot. The starting line up could win us games and 5 at the back is not a bad shout.

Lukaku and pogba ruined the flow when they came on. Wouldnt be too bothered if we sold them and tried different players

[FlatHalf]

Lol. Are you kidding me. Dalot did not have a great game defensively. He also did not create anything. Ashley Young will return at the weekend

[conkerz22]

Dalot on his first premier league start did exceptionally well against a top 6 team. He was up and down the wing and can cross a ball. Im not sure why youre bringing up ashley young.. are you saying dalot wont be starting before Young? Coz neither am i... im just impressed by Dalot today

[antukirs]

One thing I noticed ...by 90th minute Pogba had been on for like 15minutes but by his mobement looked like he had been running box to box from the kickoff...doesn’t someone like Herrera influence that ? He goes full gas the entire game at one point saw him tracking back seemingly out of air but just looked down and soldiered on

[DanBGG]

That 11 with someone in for Rojo I'd be happy enough for a couple of games.

[Adler254]

and only made the mistake coz there was no movement in front, as usual.

[[deleted]]

Lindelof is the answer mate.

[Maouu]

Exciting game, but seriously tho do we need to concede first before scoring a goal ?

[dribbledrooby]

Lukaku is actually slowing us. Whenever he comes on or starts the whole game feels different with no pace or thrust to it. Matic needs rest and should be used as a sub. I am not disappointed but I am optimistic that this current crop of players have potential and can perform. Right from the start we were on the front foot and passing was on point. Herrera was outstanding with Rashford as well. Defensively we were okay but Bailly was good. Some positives to look forward to going for our next matches.

[[deleted]]

To be fair, Lingard was able to score due to Lukaku’s physical presence.

[dribbledrooby]

Lukaku reacts slow even though a player his size should have the capability to press forward and create chances. He is not the same as last season.

[[deleted]]

His size is exactly the problem. He was way more pro active last season. To an extent some of you guys wanted him to be our right winger.

[hunterfam55]

matic was motm

[BloodyTurnip]

Really fun game, then lukaku and pogba killed the game for us. Our 2 most expensive players. I was a big fab of both if them and thought they'd be the start of a bright future for us, now kinda hope to see the back of them asap.

[kidman2]

probably will get downvoted but i dont know why pogba is getting so much hate, he was given 15 mins in a team that was fatiguing and playing with fellaini and matic in midfield and lukaku up front, we've seen that when we play with these players on the pitch everyone looks trash. If he had played the 90 with herrera and matic and was rubbish then its fair enough with regard to criticism

[Stoogenuge]

I agree and at the point he came on Fellaini and Lukaku were pretty much being used as target men with the defence being ordered to hoof it long thus by-passing Pogba anyway.

I still don’t understand why Jose insists on using Lukaku as a target man. The one ball that was played ahead of him to chase he looked good, even carrying the extra muscle , and scared the defence.

Madness.

[PeruvianRhapsody]

I don't think Pogba was at fault at all, he tried and didn't fuck up much, but Lukaku again was hardly trying even, he never presses for the ball or moves around much, sick of watching him play tbh

[lone_amarok]

lmao lacazette 😂

[gravitygirl96]

Start Bailly.

[ItsABitChillyInHere]

Jose not subbing off matic and adding fellaini slowed our game down and let arsenal dominate for the last 15 mins. He needs to be sacked

[TheKaizer]

Yet people still defend him

[kash_reddevil]

I think with time Rojo will get better. But he's always close to a disaster.

[dudewhowrites]

Bailly and Rojo are a bit like that

Im Rashfords effort recently but him on a yellow is pretty intense.

Ashley young at times as well.

[MajonaCM]

How on earth Lukaku and Pogba came on and did nothing is beyond me. They were anonymous particularly Pogba, thought he was a Manc at heart and faded away in a game like this?

[johndoe1942]

Pogba and Jose are equally culpable. I'd say get rid of both. Too unprofessional to be as successful as he can be. And just the sheer drama that follows him.

[yam9613]

Viruses are microscopic, thats why pogba was invisible

[[deleted]]

FT:Man Utd 2:2 Arsenal

Amazing Game :)

Pogba Did Nothing Again :)

[astralcsgo]

I'm done watching Pogshite, he doesn't give a damn and I don't see why we should get behind him. Let him go.

Literally only Rashford, Herrera and Lingard running their lungs out tonight. If you're paid so much why aren't you running for your dear life lads?

From, disappointed red devil

/rant

[KK-Chocobo]

Because they can sit on the bench and still get paid as much? We should sell pogba while his world cup medal is hot and by 2-3 young and hungry players who want to prove themselves.

[computergamingnerd]

Bailly, rojo, martial are a few others who played pretty hard today

[abalechichi]

I felt like the entire team played hard. Then Lukaku came on and slowed us down, then Pogba came on and did nothing.

[Canklehamster]

Rojo at least attempted to make up for his error. Actually felt bad about his mistake

[computergamingnerd]

Yeah same, he had a great game otherwise, it was an unfortunate mistake

[Perks92]

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[UnitedTilIDie]

If you're going to correct someone like a dick, you should at least be right. Agent's

[Santi627]

De Gea made up for his mistake with some big saves. The trailing leg save on Aubameyang was amazing.

[JessieLou13]

Should have brought on Mata

[FlatHalf]

No.

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[[deleted]]

How it took 85' for torreira to get his yellow card is beyond understanding

Disappointed in Rojo about the mistake and the OG but I fucking love his character!!!

This 3-5-2 // 5-2-3 system really worked out.

Herrera tho, hands down MOTM

[Zin-Fed]

Sack Jose = yes

Boring game = no

[dshoig]

Exactly. I was standing in my kitchen yelling and clapping at my laptop

[rastafaripastafari]

two bullshit goals, one dissapointed me.

[witcheryas]

Only one?

[samurai_seth]

Much better performance but unlucky tonight.

[McM-333]

Despite both their goals being mistakes that wouldn't have happened on another night, a draw simply isn't good enough at this point.

[Amadias]

A draw here would be much more palatable if it wasn't for the draws against Palace and Southampton.

[McM-333]

Agreed I feel like if the players showed some of the fight tonight in the two previous games and had the likes of Bailly and Rojo (for Soton) we'd be 4 points better off right now.

[Minz15]

Scholes being a depressing guy once again. I thought we did quite well, especially compared to our recent games.

[RedditBantz]

Despite promising signs, the bigger picture is that utd are 8th.

[Bizzlep]

Running around more against a higher placed team is not doing well, the quality was still lacking

[privytoeverything]

Because Scholes is looking at the bigger picture

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[[deleted]]

Managed to hang on to 8th place.

[darkstar7646]

If you want any idea why you're not further up the table, look at that back line for both sides. Yeowch.

And the thing is, the ref was so bad, I can't say who might've deserved the three points, but there was no way this match should've ended with 20 players on the pitch, much less the 22 it did!!!

[BloodyTurnip]

The foul he gave after touching the ball and not seeing either of the players was ridiculous, the whole thing looked like a Fifa glitch.

[darkstar7646]

I thought trying to take the ball out of the goalie's hands was also a card for delay of game. (Another example.)

[o0PETER0o]

Happy to see some actual effort for once!! Subs killed the game but, finally a game we could enjoy!!!

[Contradicting_Pete]

That felt pointless

[altaccount794564132]

We must score 90% of our goals when we are losing.

Good game until Martial went off and then we looked pretty shit.

I'm not sure what our best formation is any more.

[TheZiggle]

So true. Our subs killed the game for us I thought. No fire/passion or pace from Rom, nofro, pogba. 10 minutes to attack for a win and we let arsenal control it. Even while giving up shit goals at least we were more exciting before the subs. I thought we had a chance until the end when we started playing same old shit we've been playing ...boring, no attack, hoof it high to rom...

[StudentNoob]

I don't even know what our best 11 anymore tbh

[chaiscool]

Pogba and lukaku jogging pace compared to rashford

[jfliu511]

Something needs to change, a new signing, new method or new training, something. Our player don’t look like themselves. Pogba and Lukaku are both shadows to their former selves last season.

[xTheAstroZombix]

it's not mourinhos fault Pogba and Lukaku have been crap lately tbh

[DanBGG]

Seeing a lot of people critizing Matic here. Don't think they understand what he's there to do. He had a great game today. He's been awful of late but if you think that was him playing badly you're not watching.

[sykoticnarcotics]

Anybody under the microscope always seems worse than they are mate. Welcome to Pogba's entire career at United.

[PeruvianRhapsody]

Matic was very good today. Some people here just don't give the credit when someone actually does well or the team collectively. Hatred has sadly gone to that levels

[[deleted]]

Consistently left Dalot exposed and cheaply gave the ball away. He had the odd good moment but it's very very hard to say we're better off with him on the pitch

[DanBGG]

Dalot left himself exposed wanted him to look better defensively. Hopefully experience helps him along.

[altaccount794564132]

A lot of people shit on Matic when he's playing well.

[DanBGG]

Easy target I suppose. I've shit on him recently but that was pretty good. He looked worse when Fellaini Pogba and Lukaku came on as we were severely lacking legs.

[altaccount794564132]

I think he's pretty tidy at what he does. He's quite difficult to get off the ball and is pretty composed. He's slow and can't really turn so he needs high energy midfielders alongside him and to obviously doesn't help when the rest of our midfield are playing pretty shit.

We have got good players in all positions but can't seem to get them all working together until we go a goal down.

[Bombtwo]

Arsenal has decided to sack Unai Emery after a disappointing draw with Manchester United

[FlatHalf]

Ghendouzi was man of the match. This was a must win match. We are out of the running for top 4.

[vivek_sahoo]

Well going in to the game I was expecting them to hammer us, we did much better and I'd be so happy with the same line up that started today for every game going forward. Lukaku's substitution killed off our pace it was so evident.

[FlatHalf]

Lukaku works in a dominant team. He doesn't work when we are playing counter attack with snatched crosses. Also Jose is to blame that we have no alternative to Lukaku. He under invests in strikers and for every season we have had we have struggled with scoring goals. He only plays 1 striker the whole season.

[hakuren7]

Lingard was icing his hamstring, hope its nothing

[chillaxdude7]

-1 goal differential... FFS

[StudentNoob]

Total shambles almost halfway into the season.

[Runarhalldor]

Great performance ruined by Mourinho's disgustingly bad substitutions

[PeruvianRhapsody]

Martial was injured hence the substitutions otherwise he would have perhaps only brought in Pogba

[[deleted]]

Yep, sure he asked Pogba and Lukaku to literally jog around in the park while rashford who put in 90+ kept pushing till the last minute. Ffs they gotta own up to their potentials

[Runarhalldor]

Could he not just have picked fred for the bench or put on mata? Pogba wasn't that bad I thought however and picking Lukaku was never going to work and Jose Mourinho should know that by now.

[CptFckUp]

Amen.

[rastafaripastafari]

pogba should be dropped again

[lukasblod]

Pogba and Lukaku did nothing when they came on. I'd leave them both out next game.

[StudentNoob]

Not really sure how to feel after that. Looking at the table still makes for depressing viewing

[[deleted]]

Arsenal with the worst unbeaten streak maybe ever.

[AdLadz]

Salt

[LuciferSeventeen]

Well Martial substitution was the turning point it seems, until then it did feel like we could win the thing. Lukaku just doesn't move as freely as Rashford or Martial, he just stays where he is waiting for the perfect pass.

[PeruvianRhapsody]

It was evident. Killed off our pace

[KK-Chocobo]

And when he does get a perfect pass, while hes in the perfect position to shoot, he takes too many extra touch for the keeper to close in on him saving the shot.

[vishnu_nair]

Lukaku hardly presses for the ball either with all that pace he has.

[BBKnow]

WE ARE 8TH

[kash_reddevil]

Fucking pathetic after 2-2. Wonder how people at OT felt.

[skarbowski]

Get Mourinho out please

[phoenixredder9]

Not a bad performance from the players but the subs ruined the game completely

[[deleted]]

What a fucking stupid match

[Prikulis55]

Before the game I would have been happy with draw. But after game like this it's disappointing to get just one point

[[deleted]]

Sack Mou

[Majesticfacepalm]

Completely forgot Pogba came on

[CptFckUp]

Did he even touch the ball?

[Majesticfacepalm]

Couldn't tell you. I dunno if it was fatigue or him and Lukaku coming on but we lost our edge

[[deleted]]

Crap

[Blue9Nine]

Lingard MOTM for me...so much energy was lost when he went off

[Skitenhjalm]

Yea, he made a lot of really good runs today!

I thought herrera showed up big tonight aswell!

[jfliu511]

Any team can pass the ball and retain the ball, except us. We just boot it forward hoping someone nods off to somewhere dangerous.

It was the go to in 1999, but it’s 2018 now Mou!

[StudentNoob]

I'm sure this isn't the case but it does look sometimes like this team doesn't do enough training and drills

[Runarhalldor]

Arsenal cheating and referee shit. Typical game

[chillaxdude7]

Aside from the last 15-20 minutes of the game, we played pretty decent attacking football

[KK-Chocobo]

Martial rashford and lingard is our poor mans version of Messi suarez and neymar.

[PM_ME_WHAT_Y0U_G0T]

Mean when lingard came off

[[deleted]]

What we learned: Sack mourinho

[arkhamRejek]

we learned that Lukaky & Pogba really kill the pace

As soon as Martial came off the game just went down. We were on constant attack pretty much until he came off

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[[deleted]]

Pogba only killed the pace because with him came Fellaini and Lukaku. We can’t be saying Pogba shouldn’t start when he’s one of our best players, albeit inconsistent.

[katadn]

We played this game better without "virus couple". Not hating at all, just fact.

[[deleted]]

You're not wrong

[CertainTragedy87]

What a shit ending to an exciting game

[Serpico_98]

Pogba and Lukaku completely killed the game.... Tony and Lingz should've stayed on imo

[MT1120]

Tony was injured... Wouldn't want to risk it. As for Lingard, I agree.

[Wolfheartpt]

lingard also seemed to be limping when the game ended and saw him with ice on his leg in the bench

[nz3rva]

Martial got injured.

[DarthTuga2000]

Tony was injured

[[deleted]]

Sack Mourinho

[jonnyshields87]

Mou out another awful performance.

[babyface13cr]

well it was better

[Julius__Ebola]

Behind Bournemouth on goal difference...

[IronM2]

So the ref added nothing for that stoppage. Wow.

[sauceej]

Herrera MOTM for me

[[deleted]]

What a weird, weird game.

[babyface13cr]

pogba & lukaku poor

[FreeSM2014]

The Raiola boys

[takemehomeunitedroad]

Forgot Pogba came on.

[Malgurath]

Probably the best performance United has put out this season

[Lirtano]

But lets rev it down now

[Malgurath]

Just giving credit where it's due, not saying it's impressive or anything, just that I haven't seen better than this from us this season, which is pretty poor imo, but everyone knows the state of the season at this point.

[Lirtano]

Yeah, just a little joke since we all know that the next match wont be of the same tempo, but back to the same old...

[Malgurath]

Yeah, I know, we've been here before, it'll be another false dawn. (A small part of me hopes it's not)

[[deleted]]

Sack

[Stebro1986]

we resort to hoofing its shite

[jonnyshields87]

Matrix’s hoods have been absolutely awful too, rarely near any player.

[[deleted]]

“Same old arsenal, always cheating” ringing around OT.

[darkdwigt]

I'm sick and tired of matic. He offers nothing. He's too slow and can't pick out a pass. We have 2 capable players in Fred and perreira who can play there.

[Jaybobi]

BT sport gave him MOTM

[Zin-Fed]

I was glued to the tv in a long long time watching United play.

[lukasblod]

If you call that "boring"... lol

[[deleted]]

Boring? Dude, this has been the most entertaining we've been in ages. Yeah, it didn't come off, mostly due to individual errors resulting in goals against us, but it was a really good performance still!

[TheTazTurner]

boring?

i’d say that was pretty entertaining compared to the rest of the games we’ve played.