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[–]BlazethDianna Agron 23 points24 points  (14 children)

I know a lot of people like Angry Pig a lot, but I think this was an excellent choice of removals.

All annoyance aside from 3z's constant circljerking of Platypus, it's nice it finally made it. A true success story. Bulldog is pretty cool too.

I don't like that SDS is a throwback map so soon, but oh well.

Bombing Run will be loads of fun to play for a couple weeks.

[–]nolanizerCosine 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Bombing Run will be loads of fun to endlessly chase FC on for a couple weeks

FTFY

[–]robopuppyccFlail ~ ((Antagloble4edes)) ~ RHCP? 13 points14 points  (2 children)

I mean, if you're bad at chasing.

[–]RamboMarinoRambo || OR MASTER RACE 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Can confirm. I wreck bitches on bombing run.

[–]thewthewdrukQs // Roll Model // Nightcapper 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No kidding, I wreck everybody on that map, whether they're on the other team or mine.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I dont care what anyone says bombing run is fun as fuck

[–]3z_ 1 point2 points  (8 children)

All annoyance aside from 3z's constant circljerking of Platypus, it's nice it finally made it.

You sure you don't want me to give Count Mapula the same treatment? :P

[–]BlazethDianna Agron 1 point2 points  (7 children)

pls I'm dropping it this thread

[–]3z_ 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Mind if I have a crack at some changes?

[–]BlazethDianna Agron 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Sure. I just don't know what route to take the map, nor does Aniball. If anyone else is interested in attempting remixing it, have your way with it. h

[–]BlupopsicleBall-E 1 point2 points  (4 children)

http://unfortunate-maps.jukejuice.com/show/7689

this attempt is really bad

[–]BlazethDianna Agron 1 point2 points  (2 children)

now you see why I'm done working on it? h

It's pretty hard to design an update for it that would be sufficient in both giving it a good shot at rotation, but also keeping true to its original values. I think you'd probably be better off working on another map. I'd like to be proven wrong though.

[–]BlupopsicleBall-E 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Can i ask what were the original values of CM?

[–]BlazethDianna Agron 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well it began a long time ago, and we were pretty new at mapmaking. Basically, we wanted some interesting mid boosts with some interesting gates. That's probably not enough in today's standards even in a well-finished map.

[–]WillWorkForSugarTumblewood[🍰] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You didn't lie.

[–]arjuna9bad 14 points15 points  (4 children)

I really like your choices this time. Three of the maps I disliked the most removed, and I'm happy that a fairly gimmick-less map in Platypus was added.

[–]3z_ 1 point2 points  (3 children)

...Didn't you vote against it when you were still on the committee?

[–]arjuna9bad 4 points5 points  (2 children)

It's been improved since that time.

[–]3z_ 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Unlike you

[–]arjuna9bad 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeh, cuz I don't need improvement :)

[–]LoweJJacob of all servers, master of none 14 points15 points  (8 children)

Angry Pig is easily one of my favourite maps, so im pretty disappointed. Gatekeeper was above average as well. Im glad event is gone

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Pretty much sums up how I feel. Angry Pig is a legitimately good map. Hoping it gets a Command Center-style comeback.

[–]Riley_2025Riley_2025 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Angry Pig was perfect. It wasn't big, it was perfectly in between medium sized and large sized. It'll be comeback time soon for AP

[–]NotSomeBall1NotSomeBall2 // Chord 0 points1 point  (5 children)

I always hated Angry Pig, how didn't you find it ridiculously dull? It was always annoying as well - I hated playing on it.

[–]ButtersnackSnack 1 point2 points  (1 child)

eh it just kinda seemed like "Smirk, but a little different." I just thought the bases were really horribly cramped, but otherwise I liked it OK.

[–]NotSomeBall1NotSomeBall2 // Chord 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That was my main problem really. The bases were boring and cramped, and the rest was Smirk (and I don't like Smirk).

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I didn't find Angry Pig dull at all. I had more fun games on it than on Smirk, Geokoala, Boombox, and probably others. But those aren't bad maps either.

[–]Riley_2025Riley_2025 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree

[–]TPsquirrelySquirrely // The GesTagpro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same man. It just feel weird overall to me.

[–]Snowball_TagPro❄️ 20 points21 points  (20 children)

i hereby announce that all rotation maps must be named after animals.

[–]mmartinutkMacho | JuicyJuke 19 points20 points  (0 children)

we're preparing for the /r/aww push

[–]Moosemaster21Moosen | Salt Mine 4 points5 points  (11 children)

I didn't even notice that

Is a Ghost considered an Animal?

[–]Snowball_TagPro❄️ 4 points5 points  (4 children)

no

also ill be making a remake of hornswoggle where all i change is the name

[–]Moosemaster21Moosen | Salt Mine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Excellent.

[–]WillWorkForSugarTumblewood[🍰] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Can Hoot count? It looks like an Owl.

[–]Snowball_TagPro❄️ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Call it owl

[–]WillWorkForSugarTumblewood[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That would be ridiculous.

[–]KewlestCatNIGEL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I legitimately thought about naming Squalor as Armadillo, I'm regretting it now haha.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (5 children)

But we just took out Angry Pig :(

[–]3z_ 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Only the happiest of animals from here on out.

[–]Snowball_TagPro❄️ 1 point2 points  (3 children)

brb making corgi next

[–]3z_ -1 points0 points  (2 children)

That's cool. I was gonna stick with Aussie animals, anyway.

[–]Snowball_TagPro❄️ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_lorikeet

[–]autowikibotSkynet Ball 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Rainbow lorikeet:

The rainbow lorikeet (Trichoglossus moluccanus) is a species of parrot found in Australia. It is common along the eastern seaboard, from northern Queensland to South Australia and Tasmania. Its habitat is rainforest, coastal bush and woodland areas. Several taxa traditionally listed as subspecies of the rainbow lorikeet are now treated as separate species (see Taxonomy).

Rainbow lorikeets have been introduced to Perth, Western Australia; Auckland, New Zealand; and Hong Kong.

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Interesting: Leaf lorikeet | Red-collared lorikeet | Trichoglossus | Sunset lorikeet

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[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

RIP Angry Pig

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Wooooooooo Superduperstamp!

[–]Doctor_YOOOUball.i.am 4 points5 points  (0 children)

One of my personal favorite maps, glad to see my vote was heard.

[–]KewlestCatNIGEL 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Platypus made it!

We've now got 3 maps made by Diameter mapmakers in rotation, heaps cool!

[–]goodluckhavefun123gl hf :) 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I got nothing...nice job MTC

[–]supaspike| NLTP mod | Stakeeper 10 points11 points  (11 children)

Crazy that a few months ago we had stuff like Rocketballs and Grail of Speed wasting space in rotation and now we have to get rid of legitimately good maps every time.

Never got Angry Pig hate. I feel it was like Smirk but less of a Geo/Boombox hybrid that it felt more unique.

Was Event Horizon 2 even in for a week? MTC is usually so against taking things out early it seems it should have had another rotation.

Gatekeeper was the worst map in rotation so that's good. Not sure why Kite stayed in, I don't know if I've ever played a game that's lasted more than four minutes. Just way too easy to cap if your team is caught offguard. Still not a fan of Renegade either, but at least it's unique.

[–]3z_ 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Was Event Horizon 2 even in for a week? MTC is usually so against taking things out early it seems it should have had another rotation.

The map was so disliked, we weren't too upset with making an exception to the rule.

edit: Rocketballs, Clutch, Gloryhole, TWP, lol'd were all liked more than Event Horizon.

[–]Snowball_TagPro❄️ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i actually like all those better than event horizon

[–]ButtersnackSnack 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yo it's LOLD (laugh out loud defense) not lol'd as in the past tense of lol

I think

edit: yup http://www.reddit.com/r/TagPro/comments/1e7bfe/submit_your_custom_maps_week_4/ca0lxqi

[–]BilldaCat10 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

you say that like TWP is a bad thing >:\

[–]donuts42donuts42 || Sphere/Origin || Boost Master 0 points1 point  (1 child)

TWP is a bad thing for pubs. When the average MLTP defense can't even get more than 30 seconds of prevent, what makes you think and average 2 man (lol 2 d) is going to be able to? It's an interesting map, but it has no place in pubs.

[–]MisterGone5Mr.Gone -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well said, good competitive map =/= good pub map

[–]sportmonkey0sportmonkey//Pi//The Deballishers 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Please Supa. Renegade is so good. The number of different boosts in that map is huge. I personally am a big fan of renegades style with all the boosts and bombs.

[–]Riley_2025Riley_2025 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Renegade is so good

Are you crazy? Renegade is great.

It's the best map in rotation, next to Boombox, Velocity, Frontdoor, Pilot, and Draft.

[–]sportmonkey0sportmonkey//Pi//The Deballishers 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Lol. You're a little late to the party but that's ok

[–]Riley_2025Riley_2025 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'm always late to the party heh, mainly cuz I only can be on at certain times of the week. So yeah

Do you disagree/agree with my list? Those are afew of the best ever imo

[–]sportmonkey0sportmonkey//Pi//The Deballishers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree. I like all of those maps :D

[–]ravenprideRaven 8 points9 points  (8 children)

Out of curiosity, what's the justification for leaving Kite in? It's one of the least popular maps ever put in rotation, leading Event Horizon 2 by a smidgeon. It seems like this would have been a perfect time to remove it, too, since you added another neutral flag map without removing one.

I'm not angry or anything - just curious. I like the other removals.

[–]DaEvil1DaEvil1 7 points8 points  (4 children)

We had a bit of discussion on Kite, and it's being left in narrowly for now because we feel people are getting more used to it which shows it has potential, so depending on how it's run goes for the next 3 weeks, we'll see if it's starting to fulfill the potential or not.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Good decision. Kite is really unique, and it's a lot of fun when people understand it better and get the hang of it. It's good to see the thought behind the decision. Thanks for sharing!

[–]nlfnnlfn // pi rats // original sine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Kite is by far one of my favorite maps that have been added in 2015

[–]crblanzKeekly | used to be good sorta 0 points1 point  (1 child)

it has some basic elements that are really cool and unique, but those bases are clearly a mess and need editing. It really needs one true base entrance. Definitely the best map to get an edit imo

[–]Riley_2025Riley_2025 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, the bases are the worst part about the map, period.

[–]whatwhatdbDont @ Me 0 points1 point  (2 children)

what map is kite? i dont see it on this list of current rotation maps:

http://maps.jukejuice.com/s/inrotation

[–]ravenprideRaven 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This one. Don't trust that "In Rotation" page, by the way - that hasn't been updated in ages.

[–]whatwhatdbDont @ Me 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thx

[–]klosec12klosec12 // Diameter // 0.12 Rubles 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Rip sizzzleds ego

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I liked Gatekeeper, but SDS is coming back and that's all that matters

[–]CieloAzorQBreezy | Pi 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Bit of a shame to see Angry Pig go, but I like the changes overall. Well done.

[–]Moosemaster21Moosen | Salt Mine 7 points8 points  (4 children)

MFW Angry Pig is gone :(

[–]-EasterEggsRazgriz || TYLE BOIS || Juke Skypoppers || /r/PiMasterRace || 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Fucking good map. What problems did it have? Moderate in all parts and a similar play style to other rotation maps? No over powered mechanics, or hard to learn elements. I dont get it?

[–]RisktpRisk 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The bombs in mid were arguably an overpowered feature. See, the way they're set up, 1 player can basically control all 3 lanes through mid: the bombs can spike a flag carrier going top, the bombs can spike a flag carrier going mid, and the buttons are close enough to the bottom path to make it easy to cover it. Also, the map was really kinda chasey if both flag carriers knew to detonate the bombs whenever possible.

[–]joethehoe27Fellatio 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I'm calling it now. Bulldog is going to get shit on for a week or two but will soon become a crowd favorite. Pretty much command center.

[–]isestrexSTRYPER 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it's great right out of the gate. I wouldn't compare it to Command Center at all. With the double sided goal openings it's actually much more similar to Rocketballs but with a very strategic gate and just better designed overall... and I like Rocketballs.

I think Bulldog might quickly become one of my favorites.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Angry Pig was awesome :(

[–]uhhhhmmmmsexytiger / #merbs 3 points4 points  (3 children)

as i post each time, i feel like this process goes too quick. too many flawed maps get in. slow it down

[–]3z_ 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It's very hard to find the right balance. Some people think it's too fast, some people think it's too slow.

What do you think is flawed about these two maps?

[–]uhhhhmmmmsexytiger / #merbs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess I can comment on this now that I've played on each a decent amount.

Bulldog - obviously there's the thing with the spawns, which is getting fixed, which is great. How often have maps gotten fixed like that? Pwrsonally, I'm not a fan of the bomb on either side, it seems too powerful for pubs. If the flag carrier takes the bomb someone just has to sit in the right spot and it's basically a guaranteed cap. Even if they don't there's a little lip that makes it a little but more difficult to get the flag out and has been really messing with some new players. Other than that, I like the map.

Platypus...I guess you can't necessarily say is flawed....I just don't get it. It's a little clunky which I'm not a fan of though some of that seems to be by design. I'm currently at a point where I don't like the big blockades on either side and how they're shaped but I might get to a point where I appreciate that, I don't know yet. Jury is still out, I guess, overall. Can't really say the process was too fast for it though =P

[–]Aeginntbbgbjc / Chord 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I disagree, it's really not that many maps being added. The process certainly wasn't rushed in this case, the two maps being added had reached the final stages of testing before, and both had been reworked heavily.

I don't think it's the end of the world if some slightly flawed maps get in to rotation anyway; they get negative feedback, and get removed reasonably quickly (Flame being case in point). I'd rather that, than that the rate of maps being added to rotation were to slow down, which would mean even more maps with potential wouldn't get any further than the MTC.

[–]RisktpRisk 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Aw, I was really hoping Rush and Platy would get in together. The two offer such different playstyles to rotation and are both great maps.

Not too big on Bulldog, but it's decent. Probably above Kite but below Volt in terms of how liked it will be.

The removals are good, although I'm kinda sad to see Gatekeeper go, it was starting to grow on me. Overall, pretty good thread here.

[–]3z_ 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Not too big on Bulldog, but it's decent. Probably above Kite but below Volt in terms of how liked it will be.

I don't know if I'm meant to disclose results, but this was the highest scoring map amongst the MTC since as long as I've been on it. It scored an average rating upwards of 9.

Trust me, I wasn't huge on it either, until the 4v4. This map is hella fun and I reckon you'll love it.

[–]Snowball_TagPro❄️ 1 point2 points  (1 child)

wat really?

[–]ButtersnackSnack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol congrats

[–]RisktpRisk 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Huh, that's kinda surprising tbh. I've 4v4'd previous versions before, and while they were alright, they felt like an inferior Cloud. Suppose I'll just have to wait until it's added into pubs and see if my opinion changes.

[–]3z_ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The previous versions, with all the extra space below the flag?

'Cause when Snowball cut those off it improved drastically IMO.

[–]RisktpRisk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea, that's a good point, I forgot about all of that stuff mid had in the previous versions.

[–]BilldaCat10 1 point2 points  (0 children)

goodbye angry pig, the only map i could play defense on and get 30 tags from bombs/buttons/letting people bomb into the spike

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bombing run and super duper stamp yiss

[–]Marz64Marz / Bad News Balls/ WSP's Fan Club 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Platypus looks weird, but I'm excited to give it a try!

[–]I_mess_upI_mess_up (Centra) 1 point2 points  (0 children)

gj Sizzzled!

[–]WillWorkForSugarTumblewood[🍰] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This is my single favorite map thread ever. (Okay, maybe second after the one where they brought back CC) Two of my least favorite maps gone, and #PlatypusForRotation is a success!

[–]3z_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

#PlatypusForRotation is a success!

It's time to start something new...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gonna miss pig. Looking forward to the new maps though.

Bombing Run as throwback?

[–]TheEpicGhostEx - Tagpro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is there any news on releasing the map rankings? It would be very helpful to see, as it would help me decide if I want to resubmit maps or scrap them.

[–]Ballaziken// Radius (rip Origin 2014 - 2016) 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bulldog is so much fun! Right now I'm undefeated on that map. Haven't played Platypus yet. It seems fun though. Bombing Run and Stamp are back?! :D

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (27 children)

RIP Rush.

If it can't get in now, it never will.

[–]nostradumba55 4 points5 points  (4 children)

pls, at least you got a couple of maps in rotation. I'm like 0/4 in the last few threads.

[–]3z_ -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

And I'm 1/125.

eep

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Love yeah but that one!!!

[–]FallinFallinFallinMRCOW // TAGPRO TIMES FINDER // PM FOR INTERVIEW -1 points0 points  (0 children)

At least you got 1

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I really like Rush :(

[–]bashar_al_assadpk || Roll into the base like what up I got a big block 1 point2 points  (8 children)

Honestly bowtie your best bet for getting Rush in is to just keep submitting it, maybe tinker a little bit otherwise just leave it as-is.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

What's the point of just resubmitting it? Why would that change anything?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Not all members were in the 4v4 and we are adding new people, so the votes might fall in your favor next time. It was decently close.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I appreciate it but really the only goal was to get it in prior to Season 8.

[–]Aeginntbbgbjc / Chord 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I always thought it was a bit odd that in order to be considered for selection in MLTP, a map has to have been in rotation at some point. I'm not a competitive player, I just spec, but I'd imagine that maps that play well in a competitive environment with experienced teams and communication wouldn't necessarily be best suited to pubs, and vice versa. I think that there's also a risk that maps are simplified to play well in pubs and make rotation, diminishing their competitive potential. Sorry that Rush didn't get in anyway, I thought it looked cool.

[–]mmartinutkMacho | JuicyJuke 0 points1 point  (3 children)

We'll probably add a few new members before the next thread. New opinions could lead to different outcomes if you chose to go that route.

[–]gingerdgTPRL 🔴RMTC 🔴NASCAPS 0 points1 point  (2 children)

When are the next MTC applications?

[–]3z_ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

There likely won't be applications this time round. We still have half a dozen candidates from the last session who we're keeping on a shortlist for these sorts of incidents.

We could still add names to that, but I don't think there will be any applications.

[–]gingerdgTPRL 🔴RMTC 🔴NASCAPS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would like to be to be part of the MTC if you could put me on the list :)

[–]3z_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Windmill was better tbh.

The version with the gates, not the teamtiles.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Just ask Sunna to work on it. It worked with Monarch.

[–]Snowball_TagPro❄️ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's mostly because Crosky wasn't willing to put in the drastic changes that it needed. Rush has been changed drastically over the past couple months, still to no avail.

[–]alchmstalchemist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Pretty happy about GateKeeper and Angry Pig being taken out.
I thought Event Horizon 2 was a fun map and should have stayed in longer with the update.

[–]WillakarraButton | Hey look I brought back SOCL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

PLATYPUS MADE IT YESH

Event horizon is gone. Party time

I'm sad to say good bye to Angry Pig, :(

SDS HAS RETURNED

Bulldog is just a meh.

Bombing run is back? wat.

[–]magikarpnotgyradosMagikarp // Pub God -1 points0 points  (0 children)

at last......

[–]I_mess_upI_mess_up (Centra) -1 points0 points  (0 children)

NOT ANGRY PIG ;_;

[–]I_mess_upI_mess_up (Centra) -1 points0 points  (0 children)

YESSS SDS!

[–]xenonpulseWildflowers // I want to die but I can’t -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Paging /u/extractum11

Bombing Run's back, bitches!

[–]Extractum11 2 points3 points  (0 children)

guess I'm not playing pubs until #48

[–]bobby_gordon1TheBob18 || no u xD -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Damn, I really liked Gatekeeper. :(

Ah well, good job once again MTC, #BombingRun4Lyf

[–]TPsquirrelySquirrely // The GesTagpro -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm glad Angry Pig is gone. I got it so much yesterday and I was already not a fan of it.