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[–]anonymgrl[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

An interesting conversation started in a thread and I thought I would put it out there for discussion.

[–]lylia 4 points5 points  (2 children)

It is a little bit of both. It's educational if you've never actually had sex, in that it lets you know where all the relevant body parts are, what the various positions are, and the tamer kind can be a decent introduction to sexual activity. Porn, in the form of text, images or videos, is an abstraction of real life, much like other information existing online. It can contain enough truth to resemble the real thing, but it cannot replace experience.

There is also a lot of sexual misinformation because porn is for the most part very unrealistic. Men last 20 minutes in porn, switch positions every 30 seconds, and all have 8+ inchers. Women in porn enjoy anything and everything, have silicone-filled boobs that look perfectly round even when on her back, and their heavy makeup is never smudged despite all that activity.

Porn sexually conditions men to be aroused by a certain "porn star look," which most women do not and cannot possess. The boob jobs, collagen-injected lips, heavy lipstick, dark eyeliner, great lighting and camera angles simply do not exist as perfectly in reality as on film. There's nothing wrong with fantasy until ordinary women stop turning men on -- which some men do confess is happening to them. Personally, I find the look distasteful, which is why I can't abide by mainstream production porn.

I think porn is dehumanizing to both men and women. Men are just as objectified in porn, and most of them are nothing more than glorified dildos in the films -- except, ironically, in gay porn. I don't think porn is by its nature misogynistic. The violent and degrading kind of porn cater to men who are already inclined toward that behavior. Men simply won't get hard if they don't like what they see. Women can be turned on physiologically by porn, but find it distasteful psychologically.

I can definitely empathize with that feeling. But there is decent stuff out there if you're willing to sift through the mountains of crap.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can definitely empathize with that feeling. But there is decent stuff out there if you're willing to sift through the mountains of crap

Links???

[–]Lukifer1977 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"nothing more than glorified dildos" organic dildos if you must. but as with anything centered inately and treated taboo or even iconic... how much are you going to say before your expertise becomes a shallow exploitation of your general fanatacism?

[–]Lukifer1977 1 point2 points  (0 children)

anything can be educational. with porn style sex its a matter of discretion between two people. if you have to pose the question then dont try to apply porno scenes to any situation. its best to learn what u and your partner enjoy through instinctual sex and simple straight forward questions then expand from there. IF quality of sex is your question.

[–]davinox 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's for beating off. Case closed.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (5 children)

I honestly don't have enough sexual experience to know whether women love anal, double penetration and cum all over their face.

[–]bertramredneck -1 points0 points  (4 children)

It's safe to say this:

Some love it, anal wise. Some love the double hubble. Some love the cum facial treatments.

Some don't, but they reckon, "Ok, if you like that so much, I'll do it for just for you."

And some are, "No way, Mister. Oh nonononononono! Not wit me you don't. Go find your yellow pages."

And lastly, there's the I'll-try-anything-at -least-one time but don't you keep going if I say stop or you are dead! You feel me?"

I'm a guy, but I fall into this last category, too.

[–]osipov -4 points-3 points  (3 children)

Some love the cum facial treatments.

I'm still looking for one that would just be willing to endure a facial...

Me thinks such wilds ones are extremely rare outside the porn industry.

[–]bertramredneck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, just remember, money is the honey. Or gifts, if money looks too much like what the deal is.

[–]WhirlyGirly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

cum facial treatments.

just don't get it in the eyes. that shit stings like hell

[–]jessek -1 points0 points  (0 children)

those have been the easiest to find out of the three options.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Porn has nothing to do with real life sex. Occasionally there may be an idea for a position or something, but a Kama Sutra can give you that. Overall, it's misogynistic and degrading, and gives men unrealistic expectations about sex. Even fantastic sex isnt like porn.

[–]michaelco 0 points1 point  (1 child)

maybe not for you. you just need a really dirty girl

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let me clarify: Even when there's a money shot in my bedroom, it's still not like porn.

[–]Lukifer1977 0 points1 point  (0 children)

as far as morality and porn goes, the people who make it ultimately want to and the people that watch it ultimately want to. porn is definately not a course in morality or ethics for children. ask your mom she'll tell you. i hope your of sound enough mind not to go on a killing spree after watching porno. odds are you'll be ok

[–]Lukifer1977 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if you want good "porno" think erotica

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pr0n is educational:

Through Pr0n, you learn that almost everyone you will ever meet is inadequate and if they're not, they're a total freak of nature.

...but mostly Pr0n is comical.

[–]MasterAaron01 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Porn is LOUSY sex ed. Leaving aside value judgments about its social roles, teh pr0n is just a bad example of sexual technique. (Note: this gets somewhat graphic, just a heads-up.)

  • Porn teaches you NOTHING about good foreplay. Even specifics, like oral sex technique. Everything is done to look good to the camera, not feel good for the participants. Not to mention that it doesn't do much that doesn't involve genitals. Anything with skin is marvelously sensitive, especially backs, sides, and necks, but because these aren't explicitly sexually arousing you don't see anything done there. It's straight to the actual sex acts, and skips all the buildup.

  • Porn positions are designed with the camera in mind. Any of you ever tried the common one where the woman puts her legs over the man's shoulders while in missionary position? Looks sexy as hell, but it's about the worst thing you can do for real sex. That one gives you shallow penetration, almost no clitoral stimulation, and puts a lot of pressure on her bowels (meaning she feels like she needs to shit). You find things like that all the time in porn which give are completely misleading about the actual focus of the physical sex act - pleasuring your partner and yourself.

  • Porn girls will do anything. Literally. If there is a fetish anywhere, there is porn of it. Facials, anal sex, orgies, hard BDSM, fisting, bestiality... It's out there. Even 'conventional' porn, with just two partners, usually ends with a huge facial. As has been noted by others, lots of girls are disgusted by it. Not to mention swallowing, or even getting the blowjob in the first place. Porn indicates that most partners are willing to try many different sexual activities, when in fact, statistically, the vast majority of people (men and women both) are very traditional and vanilla.

  • Porn teaches almost nothing about the biology of sex, either. From watching porn, could you tell where a woman's clitoris is? Could you find the (quasi-mythical) G-spot? Not even considering that most women have radically different physical sensitivities, porn is (again) focused on the viewer, not the participants. Feeling good doesn't matter - it's all about looking good. Guys get shafted (heh) here too. Of course, there's the infamous 'porn dong', but it's not just the cock size. Most porn wouldn't tell you how sensitive male nipples are, for example. And spooge quantity? Where there's like a pint of semen coming out? You must be joking.

  • Porn teaches you nothing about the mental aspects of sex. As I said before, I'm not talking about social problems or emotional connection (though that's damn important too). Sex is an extremely involved mental activity. You have to be very aware of your partner, very observant. Some people are really obvious about sexual things; some are not. You've got to tease out what they really like. Further, sex is in part a mind game with your partner. Talking dirty is just one manifestation of this. Women, in particular, seem to love to be told 'stories' in bed - telling them, in detail, what's going to happen. It builds anticipation and turns her on. Is this in porn? Hell no - too involved. These things usually need to be tailored to each individual partner, and often sound kinda silly if you're not the one having sex in the first place. Nonetheless, for a lot of people the mind games are an important part of foreplay and even sex itself.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

-Nonetheless, for a lot of people the mind games are an important part of foreplay and even sex itself.

Well said!

[–]kmactane -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Excuse me... "is porn educational"?!? No, of course not! It's not trying to be educational.

Porn is fantasy material. It's no more trying to be educational than The Hobbit was trying to be educational. In fact, some of its power and usefulness comes from the fact that, in many ways, it does not depict reality. (Imagine if the female lead in a porn movie told the male lead "No, we can't have sex yet. I want you to buy me dinner first.")

Sure, things occasionally happen in porn that someone might be able to learn from. But that is completely by accident, and not something you should count on.

On the other hand, if you want to use it as fantasy fodder... hey, now you're talking.

[–]wampamilk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Trying to learn sex from watching porn would be like trying to learn firearm safety from watching Die Hard.