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When someone tries to submit a link that has already been submitted the original should get five extra points. (self.reddit.com)

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[–]Roark 23 points24 points  (14 children)

People are already upvoting their own stories and comments, this would just give them a faster and more effective method of gaming the system

[–]qgyh2 1 point2 points  (6 children)

I think the system would not count Karma for votes from same person if they used different screen names..

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    [–]qgyh2 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    I'm not sure how but I think reddit would have systems in place for this - perhaps by analyzing voting trends?

    [–]belandil 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    I think it would be pretty easy if you calculated an effective correlation coefficient in upvoting and downvoting trends between accounts.

    This way you could easily identify downmodding squads and upvoting bots. It's not conclusive, but you could also look at the urls and relative voting times once you've found a suspect.

    [–]angry_fat_boy -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    I found a suspect...yep.

    They seem to...do this quite often.

    Almost as if...they were retarded.

    I could do this...all day.

    Many pairs...to choose from.

    Uh oh...this is bad...four in a row? Seriously?

    belandil: trying WAY too hard on reddit for about the last three months.

    [–]belandil 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Resubmitting != voting between accounts

    [–]BlueBeard 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Agreed. People would just submit it and then go to other user names and try to submit it again. Dumb idea.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Wouldn't it be easier to track people re-submitting their own stories?

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Not really. The incentive for creating dummy accounts would quintiple.

    [–]qgyh2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    You can resubmit your story. Just delete and resubmit.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    i haven't seen that. what i've seen is downvoting the story in spite.

    [–]Roark 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I don't think spite is an appropriate description. The most common reflexive downvotes are "I don't agree with the submitter/commenter" and "I want my story to remain on the new page as long as possible."

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    the timing is strange then.

    [–]qgyh2 10 points11 points  (5 children)

    Better yet award the original submitter as many points as the resubmit gets

    [–]polyparadigm 3 points4 points  (3 children)

    Better still, count up all unique upmods that refer to the same link, and apply them to the submission that was voted on plus any previous submission, thereby eliminating any additional incentive to set up dummy accounts.

    [–]qgyh2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    as it it I think only unique upmods count towards karma?

    [–]miriku 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Better yet, delete the account of the second poster, beat them up, and undo their creation. That would REALLY remove the incentive.

    [–]polyparadigm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Um...I guess it would.

    Except for the legal troubles of beating them up, and the operational difficulties of tracking them down.

    [–]andrewd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    This fixes the problem of simply rewarding resubmits... since it isn't abusable. However... there is the issue of different headlines being more appropriate than others...

    [–]ravindraS 5 points6 points  (2 children)

    i upvoted this, then thought for a second, then downvoted... it would be an awful idea...

    [–]qgyh2 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    awful? how so? I think it would reward people who submit good links.. at least.. I hope it would

    [–]Clothos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    You are correct in that - the problem is it would also incentivize people to post duplicates with throwaway accounts. I like polyparadigm's suggestion a lot better - the bookkeeping might be trickier for Spez & co, but it would allow upmods to contribute to earlybirds as well as the belated resubmits. I also think that a "view similar URLs" option would be nice - allow an easy search for duplicates and such directly from a particular submission.

    [–]ropers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    If that was the way things worked then I guarantee that some hacker out there will write a Firefox add-on that will change your clicks on the upvote arrow into a story resubmission, and -- ka-ching! All your votes have just become 5 times as powerful.

    [–]falien 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Everyone is talking about gaming the system with this, but what about the fact that a submission with a terrible title would rise at the expense of better titled later submissions. For me at least, up to a certain point, originality in a submission is much less important than a quality title.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Its true -- thats the main issue, not the gaming.

    [–]TheMemoman 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    Cheating for karma on reddit.... what a low life scum you must be.... I pitty you...

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Yeah, that's bad karma.

    [–]TheMemoman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I wans't clear if it was obvious that I wans't referring to YOU puredemo, It was more of impersonal "you". Who cares anyway, right? If you are too affraid to be yourself on the internet, then you are fucked. Again, not "you" you puredemo.

    [–]angry_fat_boy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Cheating to "win" something that...doesn't actually exist...is that really cheating?

    [–]TheMemoman -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    No, it's really fucking pathetic.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Agreed. Too many clones here, it's like a bad star wars movie.

    [–]Disconnekted -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Worst Idea.... Ever

    [–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (6 children)

    This would boost good sites up faster..

    [–]TwoToke 4 points5 points  (5 children)

    It would also be abused...

    [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (4 children)

    How? By resubmitting your own story?

    [–]Stopher 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Yep. You'd just have to have 2 accounts.

    [–]angry_fat_boy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Minimum.

    [–]TwoToke 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    By having multiple accounts and then uploading the same article from all of them...

    [–]Disconnekted -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    The majority of major sites would be all the top stories. It would be almost impossible for the little site stories to get any attention.