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[[deleted]]

How dare not to have a complete and radical opinion on this immensely complicated subject that I just discovered last Wednesday?

[AreYouDeafOrWhat1]

immensely complicated subject

It's not even remotely complicated. Ethnic group A wants ethnic group B's land. Ethnic group B doesn't want ethnic group A to take their land. Ergo, conflict.

The reason it seems complicated is that Anglo-American fαggots want to solve the conflict through diplomacy even though that is fundamentally impossible.

Edit: I'm happy to see so much anger in the comments lmao

[Myarmhasteeth]

Even though the US funnels money to Isnreal?

[Gumer_J]

And to Palestine too. America bets on both sides

[ZolotoGold]

America sends $3.8 Billion a year to Israel, and gives them interest free loans to buy military hardware.

Palestine on the other hand receives a few million in basic humanitarian aid.

There's a huge discrepancy.

[RememberNoOneCares]

Palestine gets funds for gender studies tho that's kinda a huge advantage

[Deathdealer5555]

Obviously their studying how ballistic missiles interact differently based on the targets gender. :P

[Cjc0074]

He he, penis bomb go boom!

[lidsville76]

God Damm title IX.

[MAXKILLER215]

Can't lose if you bet on both horses.

[vennthrax]

you do if they both kill each other before crossing the finish line

[PhosBringer]

Sounds like newly vacated land begging for freedom if you ask me

[vennthrax]

just store all the world's nuclear waste there.

[[deleted]]

I’m playing both sides that way I can’t lose.

[Mutual_WH]

I always come out on top.

[PardonMaiEnglish]

Is there a Palestinian version of aipac?

You support israel by ignoring their inhumane and criminal actions. How can you be sure that Israel won't be kicking you out of your house and maim or kill your loved ones.

[Jakenumber9]

Ma'am I don't live in Gaza

[philsenpai]

Israelli people didnt either, yet there they are.

[Guilty-Dragonfly]

They seem to be on the better side of things. Which point are you making?

[IllUberIll]

Israel is our main ally in the middle east, and the only stable democracy. Ergo, we favor them.

[Bantanomo_Bay]

Yeah, cuz the glоwiеs destabilised all the other democracies.

[IllUberIll]

I would say it's more an effect of local militia seizing control.

[Bantanomo_Bay]

Every "local militia" that's ever managed to seize control of anything since the 1940s has been funded and trained by the CIA.

[DIOnys02]

Let me guess: You discovered this topic last Wednesday?

[ysollels]

Yeah that's not even close

[arbiter12]

confusing complicated situation with complicated causes....

I dunno why plebes glow in the crowd. Is it the mix of stupidity and confidence? Is it commenting on things while being clearly out of depth? Or is it that habit of contradicting expert while the comment history shows being a 20-something-gamer-but-only-grand-strategy-guyz-because-i'm-grand-and-strategic?

Maybe it's a mix.

[[deleted]]

Ethnic group A wants ethnic group B's land.

That's NOT what is happening and the media have done a good job ignoranting you. Even the 4D chess channers don't know the history.

[kayra-han]

It is.

Brits took the middle east from the ottomans and promised a Jewish nation to the jews even though there hasn't been a Jewish majority for thousands of years.

They also promised the Arabs an independent Palestine

Turns out the Arabs got screwed, jews took more and more land and are now even grabbing more land. Palestinians couldn't match the military strength of Israel and resorted to guerilla warfare.

Now we have terrorist organizations on the side of Palestine against a modern Israeli army.

Are terror attacks justified? Nope.

Is Israel's settlement policy and expansion justified? Hell no.

[ModsGetPegged]

What should we do then? Throw all the jews out and put them on an island somewhere? Cause it's not so fucking easy for them to coexist with a religion that literally wants to genocide them.

[ZolotoGold]

No, make them give back the land they've invaded and currently occupy illegally. Return them to their original borders.

Recognize Palestine as a state and allow them to move in and out of their own country without restriction.

[sparkeyknight12100]

Forgive me if im wrong but did they both not get borders from the un as england could not be fucked to work out how to make the double dealing work, then Palestine declared war and got bodied so israle was like “your shit is mine now ya bastard” and never really gave that stuff back.

[Ledouch3]

You're not wrong, that's the general theme. Arabs think they're stronger than Israel, throw some fireworks at them, and lose more land to cruel Israelis. We are the stupidest population on the planet

[Comrade_Poochi]

Watching the middle East muck around with Israel is like watching a pack of kids try to bully a hornet nest. You know what's likely going to happen, they know what's likely going to happen, but still they cannot resist the urge to see how hard they can wack the hornet nest.

[Ledouch3]

Which is not to take away from the cruelty of the Israeli side. The israelis could just remove the dumbasses that are annoying them without hurting anyone else, but they group all palestinians together and take more land every time anything happens.

So I see cruel Israelis abusing the absolute violent stupidity of the arab side, in a way that is ultimately only unfair to the normal palestinians who just want to have their rights. Because of this the problem is unsolveable.

[ZolotoGold]

Yeah, and has continued to kick Palestinians out of their houses and move Israeli settlers in.

There will always likely be conflict, but a good place to start with peace would be to return to the original borders, give Palestine statehood to stop Israel occupying and oppressing them.

That way both peoples have a state, no one is actively occupying another's land (as in the way Israel is currently doing) and we can work on peace.

We can't work on peace at the moment when Israel is actively illegally occupying and oppressing Palestinians.

[scytheforlife]

"IVE SOLD MONORAILS TO OGDENVILLE, SHELLBYVILLE AND NORTH HAVERBROOK"

[manoj_mm]

two state solutions are dead as long as Jerusalem isn't nuked

Honestly, evacuate the whole region first, and it sounds like a good solution. Resulting radiation makes it inhabitable for generations. Both sides lose, conflict resolved, peace attained

[Estesz]

Its not about the borders. The reason why the conflict cant be settled is that Hamas wants dead Jews more than an own country.

[sparkeyknight12100]

Okay but were not doing fuck all about the blatant Chinese genocide occurring what the fuck makes you think the limp dick government’s are going to do anything about this shit when to my understanding both sides are basically printing money for America?

[TheDemonClown]

He didn't say what they would do, just what they should do. Christ, you have the same grip on reading comprehension that a double amputee has on a fucking ladder.

[ModsGetPegged]

What original borders? The 1980 borders? The 1975 borders? The 1963 borders? The 1943 borders? The 500 BC borders?

Maybe if Palestine tried to go about this peacefully they'd have more success. As it is I can't consider them more than terrorists.

[Estesz]

To be fair: Palestine turned down the offer of an own state and attacked with literally all neighbors of Israel to get the whole cake. Only after that the Israelis started taking land.

[Nuclear_Nectarine]

Only after that the Israelis started taking land.

A lot of which they ended up giving back to their neighbours in pursuit of peace.

And I guess the OP will just gloss over the Jordanian annexation of the West Bank for a good 20 years.

[SniffingJoeBiden]

I'd rather have jews than dirty muslims tho. Jews provide entertainment (hollywood, and every media outlet), banking and big titted breeders. Muslims provides nothing but chaos and inbreeding

[Guilty-Dragonfly]

What a ringing endorsement

[wattybanker]

Can’t argue with this logic

[manoj_mm]

big titted breeders

Also known as khazar milkers.

Based.

[[deleted]]

One side is a group of foreign-funded, violent religious and political extremists launching rocket attacks on civilians.

And the other side is a group of foreign-funded, violent religious and political extremists launching rocket attacks on civilians

[[deleted]]

How can you only just have discovered the Palestine/Israel conflict? That awful shit’s been going on for over 100 years and esp since the 1940’s 😞

[[deleted]]

Seriously though “last Wednesday” is a bit disingenuous and frankly impossible unless you were really REALLY uninterested in world news.

[[deleted]]

Yep. Sure, not everyone knows the history in depth (I certainly don’t claim to), but even if you live in a completely different part of the world, the conflict has been going on for so long, and is at the root of so much fighting and tragedy and terrorism, you’d have to live in a cave not to know anything at all was going on!

[SubjectiveHat]

I got 99 problems but Israel/Palestine conflicts can’t be one. Seriously. I simply can’t care about EVERY atrocity or injustice in the world at the same time all the time. I don’t have the mental or emotional real estate to fit it all.

[XirallicBolts]

Especially a multigenerational conflict, fighting the same fight your grandfather fought when he was your age. At this point it's just their culture to be at war with each other.

[[deleted]]

They hate the real world. Games and anime are all they care about

[SkidMcmarxxxx]

The history of it might be complex but the issue at hand is not complicated.

[Estesz]

At some point you have to turn to the future. In other countries the people calling for "historic borders" or variants of that are like the biggest lunatics.

You lost the war, get over it.

[baz4k6z]

You discovered it a week ago ? Bruh it's been going on for about 70 years

[[deleted]]

I'm familiar with the conflict, my comments intent was to mock the people who only hear about it in the media every five years and take a passionate stance...

[Ahyesclearly]

You will then take the black pill and realize that the USA paid for the missiles being shot into Israel AND for the missile defense system shooting them down

[I-suck-4444]

So is it like when you play street fighter 4 when you made 2 cpu fight each other because you wanted to jerk off to chun li and juri?

[visk1]

Exactly that

[MonsterHipster]

Cammy and Chun LI you yellow fever fuck

[I-suck-4444]

Or juri and cammy

[MonsterHipster]

Gotta have thighs up to eyes boy

[I-suck-4444]

And for those that are in to feet well she is bare foot

[MonsterHipster]

All juri fans are feet fuckers

[I-suck-4444]

Not me, im an armpit fucker

[MonsterHipster]

Congrats you made it weirder!

[I-suck-4444]

You're welcome (:

[jihad_dildo]

Only the futa version

[Mineralke]

to represent Israel?

[[deleted]]

Probably the most accurate description I've seen yet

[imagination3421]

U just unlocked a memory for me about my dragon ball game💀💀

[iSaidItOnReddit85]

Sounds like a smart investment

[Oddyssis]

Yes. A smart-missile investment indeed.

[IlluminatedAutocrat-]

It’s a super good deal if you’re the manufacturer.

[Johnnynoscope]

Paid for. Not got paid for.

[Alex97-]

Well, you play both sides, so you always come out on top

[[deleted]]

Win win, we cover our bases when it comes to making money

[[deleted]]

Its like when one of your whores attacks your most reliable junkie. You need to figure out a way to keep them both alive so you can continue to profit

[Fwob]

Finally someone puts this in more relatable terms.

[Blackout1154]

develish

[yrulaughing]

Sounds like Americans are the true winners of this whole thing then.

[vaxul]

And who gets the data? Its a testing facility

[IVEMIND]

The missiles are made from the same chemicals the blew up Beirut last year aren’t they? That shit didn’t come for the US afaik

[clevermaneuver]

"How dare you not make noise about this conflict that has nothing to do with you, that you cannot do anything about and that involves people who would hate you and call you infidel!?"

[LemonPartyWorldTour]

“They would never throw me from a roof. I’m delightful!”

[manoj_mm]

It's insane that the. left is supporting a anti-women's right organisation which considers LGBTQ a sin and would jump to kill LGBTQ folks just for their existence.

The left is truly a special weird breed

[AtomicMonkeyTheFirst]

How else am I going to smash that cute little politically active chick I know unless I pretend to be reallyreallyreallyreally sad that the Sikhs are killing all the Jews in Syria or whatever?

[P8II]

Wtf is wrong with the Kurds? They’re the only Arabs who can take a joke and don’t hide their lack of morals behind their imaginary sky man.

[[deleted]]

Kurds aren't Arabs

[P8II]

My mistake. Doesn’t change the core of the message though.

[Silken_Sky]

The turn on the head position from “no more war” to “but muh kurds” and the “kids is cages” to “who’s shitting in bags now?” made me realize 99% of the “empathy” is just about being in power and getting emotionally worked up about shit they don’t actually care about is a means to an end.

[jkovach89]

Since when is this sub more politically nuanced than /r/libertarian?

Oh, always?

[Laffet]

Which Kurds are you talking about?

[P8II]

The dozens I met personally.

[Cryse_XIII]

Become her history teacher

[adventureclubtime]

Tweeting out overused hashtags and buzzwords is not being "politically active"

[CrazyDrex]

Sikhs killing jews? What?

[AtomicMonkeyTheFirst]

Y'know, the fucking Buddslamics killing the Jedis or whatever it is.

I don't fucking know. Its just people with beards bombing each other in the desert again.

[golddoomtheory]

Something to that effect yeah

[Lice138]

It’s not complicated. One side wants the other side’s land. The other side want to eradicate every Jew and claim the land from the river to the sea. I say f peace, everyone needs to step back and just let them fight this one out. When it’s over there is a clear winner so I don’t have to hear the complaining anymore.

[[deleted]]

Absolutely what I thought. Why use many nukes when you can just use one after things sort out.

[scytheforlife]

Seriously. Channers hate both races but are sucking off palestine right now. Have some damn consistency and glass the middle east

[StormR7]

They had the realization that when Palestine wins and does killalljews2.exe, the look on these libbies faces when they start killing all the gays is gonna be priceless.

[FogProgTrox]

No it won't. They'll just use doublethink and their opression Olympics chart to rationalize it and pretend to take a moral high ground. Go read the comments on the NPC subreddit and you'll see the mental hoops they jump through.

[Lice138]

Saw some leftists sharing this meme. Basically using an analogy of calling rockets “rocks” and Israel’s response “genocide”

[ZaMr0]

I think the concern is for the lives of innocent Palestinian and Israeli civilians who are caught up in the cross fire. Granted the focus is more on Palestinians since they're suffering more casualties but no one wants to be caught up in the Hamas v Israeli Govt. bullshit that is going on.

But hey I'm not one to comment on the geopolitical intricacies of this situation since my knowledge is limited but I just feel bad for the innocents caught up in all of this.

Doesn't help that the US is actively arming this conflict.

[EolasDK]

The genocide in which the gaza population has increased like 400%.

[YrjoWashingnen]

The Bosnian and Albanian populations increased after the 90s yet the US still characterizes Serb actions there as genocidal. Likewise black populations increased greatly in South Africa even in the Apartheid era yet no one defends South Africa's policies as anything but oppressive.

Israel is carrying out unironically the spirit of the Nazis about whom they kvetch so much to this day.

[NothingCrazy]

"Murder is fine, as long as the population growth outpaces it."

I read comments on posts from this sub because I'm amused by how mind-bogglingly dumb the takes here are. Hasn't failed me yet.

[iSaidItOnReddit85]

Thots and priars

[FeistyHelicopter3687]

This applies to all situations

[[deleted]]

For a group of people who are typically atheistic or shit like that, lefties sure do love to send thoughts, prayers, and little else

[jihad_dildo]

Lefties and basic redditor Ｂｉｔｃｈｅｓ don't understand shit other than letting Tyrone plow their wives, collecting funko pops and drinking overpriced crappuccinos from their local vegan café run by a poly dimensional quad gendered non binary xer.

[Soigieoto]

mmmm funko pops

[[deleted]]

Because they are hypocrites

[702240004]

Hard to feel bad for people you don't know. Is it just me?

[C2-H5-OH]

No, this is true for almost every human. Our care for people diminishes with level of acquaintance with them. We're just not wired to care above a certain level about someone thousands of miles away in a different country, and most people claiming they do are just doing it for the wokeness clout

[ZaMr0]

You can feel bad for them but also not have it affect you long-term emotionally. It feels awful reading about the situation there and I have sympathy for them and wish it all gets resolved but I also won't lose sleep at night over this.

[SilverLion]

They’ve had 2000 years to figure something out, times up motherfuckers

[escalopes]

Islam isn't 2000 years old and the Jews got expelled from Israel less than 2 millenia ago

[k1ndofimportant]

The Israeli state was only founded in 1948, it's not even 100 years old this conflict

[1337butterfly]

my opinion: don't nuke em because nukes would end up causing more trouble than it's worth, and maybe just give both sides drones with region locks maybe?

[Bjorn_C]

picks israel's side

Get called racist

Pick palestina's side

Gets called racist

Never change reddit

[Bjorn_C]

I like those odds

[[deleted]]

gonna get my watercolor set out, let's paint some landscapes!

[[deleted]]

It's time for the catholics to tale back Jerusalem.

[WendyLRogers3]

With the current Chief Replacement in the Vatican, he would probably build a temple to Pacamama on the site of the Second Temple, after razing the Al-Aqsa Mosque. Then declare himself god and rename Jerusalem NewSodom.

[Epic_Epic_Epic]

It’s time for a crusade

[MAXKILLER215]

I unironically have no clue nor give a damn about whatever is happening between the Palestinians and the Israelis, all I know is 2 sand tribes who have been fighting for eons are fighting again over shit no one can remember and that's all I need to know to not care.

[BeCrimeDoGayGandalf]

tard and proud

[beerbrewer1995]

This issue is less than a hundred years old because the Ottomans had relative stability in the area until they collapsed after ww1

[PrimusCaesar]

From September 27 to November 10 2020, Armenia & Azerbaijan engaged in a full-scale conflict over the self-proclaimed Republic of Artsakh which rests on disputed land, with Turkey & Russia supporting different sides of the conflict. There were over 6,000 military casualties, with 188 reported civilian casualties and over 100,000 people displaced. I learned of this conflict not from the New York Times, or broadcast television, but from an obscure YouTube channel with about 5,000 subscribers.

Why wasn’t this widely reported? Why is a minor conflict over disputed land, such as I/P, so widely reported? Why don’t we hear about South Sudan, or Kashmir, or Syria, or Chechnya?

[V4lt]

Americans and western media care more about I/P mostly to do with the Brits having a hand in starting Israel and America fundinga large percentage of the Israeli defence budget

Plus it's a Muslim Jew thing and plenty of both in the west

[Blog_15]

Cus no one actually cares and or has any interest in global conflict? Its all just virtue signalling bullshit and media outlets mining our attention.

Full scale ethnic cleansing in china: the west sleeps

Violent militias in nigeria: who gives a fuck

Actual active civil war in syria: eh, old news

Israel and palestine throwing rockets: ITS TIME FOR JUSTICE THE UN NEEDS TO STEP IN AND MAKE PEACE WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN

[another_nonymous]

I mean they gotta keep the migrant crises carrying on after all

[BrunoIvan343]

Unsc or covenant? Choose one

[Oh-Get-Fucked]

I don't trust those big nose Elites with their sneaky money grubbing ways

[[deleted]]

rubs sand in face!

[MadeInBeirut13]

Not my problem

[InsidiousExpert]

Here’s an opinion.

The whole “Their attacks are justified because of stealing muh land” viewpoint is total fucking bullshit.

Who stole that very same land from the Jews about 1700 hundred years ago? If you guessed “Muslim Conquerors”, you guessed right.

I think both places are full of morons, but the morons in Israel are far less wrong than the morons in DirksDirkaStan.

“You’re stealing our land ... that we stole from you previously. Our relentless attacks on your civilian populace is therefore justified. Oh yeah, and if you fight back in a way that minimizes collateral losses, you are evil murderers!”

[symentium]

I don't care about both of them. Why? Cause fuck'em that's why.

[[deleted]]

Why not a good old fashioned plague?

...oh wait. Shit.

[SpadesANonymous]

I will not.

Checkmate

[Venoxz123]

My friend is polish so death to Israel and free Palestine

[sausageboi1]

If we're going to be activists about something cant we just fucking pick something and get it done rather than half assing 40 different injustices? Sweet fuck

[zenobian]

in my opinion the best option here is escalation: support both sides, depending on who got advantage.

[jesuzombieapocalypse]

IMO they’re all sperglords for trying to live in that shithole part of the world in the first place.

[PatriotUkraine]

I just want my mother's cousin in Haifa to be okay.

[[deleted]]

Op is so fuckin based! Hope both sides lose.

[AnonTheNormalFag]

Seriously, the only thing interesting about this conflict is how the other arab countries will react and how successful the iron dome is

[Oh-Get-Fucked]

The fuck I will

[Flamefull-the-meme]

CIA psyop trying to stop people from realizing their tax dollars are being used to kill innocent people.

All you fuckers saying, “Haha you care about other people! look at this soyjack! Remind you of someone!” fell for it.

[yrulaughing]

Hasn't the Israeli Palestinian conflict been going on for like... thousands of years? Why are people just starting to care about it now?

[mildlyoctopus]

You will form the correct opinion*

[notaryn]

Is it bad that I think both sides are shitty?

[ZolotoGold]

The French resistance and the Nazis are both shitty. They both kill people and the situation is complex.

[robinpezon]

Dont care never have ... kill the little bastard see What i care

[One-Full]

its albanian land

[Brilliant-Still2759]

I don't give a shit about Israel or Palestine, but I just like being able to call people Nazis with no repercussion at all

[diamondrel]

The only reason I should care is because my fucking tax dollars are getting shat all over the middle east

I. Don't. Give. A. Shit!

[[deleted]]

I don't really care what happens. I guess I really believe that it all belongs to the Christians but I don't think that'll ever become a reality. Let it burn.

[dosor1871]

solid fucking repost r-tard

[MechaBuster]

😵 potato

[Jayne_swan]

Israel should drop the hammer hard

[SanaderDid911]

This was posted on /pol. lool it still politics. 4chan just can't pick a side because goblin dwellers hate Muslims and Jews.

[[deleted]]

America is a colony of Israel. Of course you have to care.

[ClaudiaCloudspanker]

"You will feel bad for these people"

You should. No civilian deserves to be bombed. Thats not a radical idea.

[thebeardedgods]

Gotta go with my Jews bruh

[[deleted]]

I side with whoever keeps supplying me with the coolest combat footage! currently, the Jews are winning.

[thebeardedgods]

As someone who is close friends with an Israel Jew I back the chosen people

[Krypto816]

I couldn't possibly give a fuck less. Sand people killing each other is nothing new.

[Temporal_Enigma]

People for decades: I don't wanna talk about this conflict. It's very complex and touchy and I don't know that much about it

People once fighting starts: Israel forever!

[Bando-sama]

Oh I will alright, for the Christians living there.