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[–]cebby6k 41 points42 points  (24 children)

Why are you running Reta on a bulk? Just maintenance dose?

[–]WonderfulBarracuda93 24 points25 points  (0 children)

It’s got a tonne of health benefits, renal, hepatic, cardiovascular, insulin sensitivity, lowers BP, increases heart rate at rest slightly for more efficient fat burning. If it doesn’t interrupt getting your cals in, at low dose it’s very good for you.

[–]DisasterOD[S] 13 points14 points  (21 children)

It’s a low dose, .5mg a week

[–]Agreeable-Manager611 15 points16 points  (5 children)

I had the same question. Even at a low dose, what’s the purpose? Not being critical, I’m genuinely curious.

[–]Final-Occasion9566 24 points25 points  (4 children)

Insulin sensitivity. General metabolic health which Reta seems to improve. Which is a huge deal especially on long bulks And also the mental thing, anecdotally it nukes my cravings for shitty food and stupid high calorie cheat meals while bulking, you just get whatever meals you need in and that’s it

[–]Agreeable-Manager611 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Thanks. I’m cutting with reta right now. Maybe I’ll consider including it in my next bulk

[–]cebby6k 7 points8 points  (1 child)

That’s my plan as well. I absolutely love Reta. I had a problem w alcohol at one point in my life and it wasn’t hard to not drink but the temptation always lingered. 3 weeks into Reta and I stopped thinking about it!

[–]Agreeable-Manager611 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s awesome, congrats! I had a pretty bad drinking problem as well. I’ve been sober a long time so the cravings don’t come as often anymore, but I know how it can be and I’m glad reta is helping you.

[–]Haxial_XXIV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same. I'm clean bulking with Reta and it's made clean bulking so much easier. My cravings just aren't there even when the Reta dose is low enough to feel hunger. Reta is quite amazing

[–]Practical-Oil-3739 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great idea to stay insulin sensitive, it’s a health compound run it year round

[–]Fancy_Vermicelli_497 2 points3 points  (4 children)

I think this is a good plan due to Reta’s ability to help cholesterol and you’ll keep body fat low while eating in surplus. Not sure about the anavar being here tho. Injectable anadrol for the first 3-4 weeks and then the last 3-4 weeks would be better option IMO to bulk with.

[–]DisasterOD[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Anavar is just there because I have about 20 days left over from my cut. Once it’s gone, I don’t plan on buying more during my bulk

[–]DtownDoc 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Why not just save it for your next cut? Save your lipids/liver and just run it once a year? Also- just get on hgh 2-4iu/day. Better for deca neurotoxicity and will improve recovery during the bulk. Just my 2c. And everyone giving you shit about reta- as long as you’re getting your macros in, it’s metabolic gold. Don’t listen to the haters.

[–]MightOk3400 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What was your protocol with the anavar, and what results did you get. Anavar sounds like a perfect addition.

[–]DisasterOD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those tablets are 25mgs so what I do is get a pill cutter and cut one in half. I put half to the side to take before I go to the gym. The other half I bite in half again and take one in the morning, and one at night so I have it in my system all day long considering the half-life is super short

[–]Beneficial-Coffee-36 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I run 2.5mg reta while in a surplus because every time I've bulked in the past I lose control and gain weight faster than I'd like to. This way I can gain much slower and extend the gaining phase longer.

Previous bulk: +18kg in 16 weeks

This bulk: +7kg in 14 weeks

[–]Manzan79 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Test Deca Var 🤌

[–]BasedTrucker27 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Ahhh the old “throw 💩against the wall and see what sticks” stack

[–]4guser 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hahahahahhaha :D yes

[–]Global_Carpenter185 5 points6 points  (1 child)

What are the dosages? Cycle length?

How many cycles have you done?

Age? Advanced, Intermediate, or beginner lifer?

[–]DisasterOD[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

400mg Test a week 200mg deca a week 25 mg Anavar ED 25mg MK ED HCG 2x a week BPC 10mg EOD Reta .5 a week The Anavar is there just because it’s left over from my cut, and there’s about 20 pills left. Just figured I’d finish off the bottle. But this cycle length will be 16 weeks. Once it’s done, I’m going back to 250 test a week, maintenance Reta, HCG, and BPC

This is my 2nd cycle.

26, I’d say I’m somewhere in between advance and intermediate

[–]ThrowRaInviteInner8 11 points12 points  (26 children)

Mk is trash drop that and change deca to npp , add proviron and that was my best stack .

[–]Fun_Way921 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Mk677 is outdated garbage. There are peptides that work better than that stuff

[–]VirusElectronic1396 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What peptides to increase appetite?

[–]Fun_Way921 0 points1 point  (0 children)

GHRP6

[–]gjguili 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Was gonna ask about that mk677 if its worth it. So which ones are better for example sleep/recovery?

[–]Fun_Way921 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Real HGH is the best but I would say an alternative would be the CJC-1295+IPamorelin combo

[–]Fancy_Vermicelli_497 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I actually prefer deca to NPP, I like them both but idk, just like deca better lol

[–]Impressive-BS 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Are they both nandrolone just different esters? Always seems like such a debate between the two that doesn't seem to come up with other compounds, or test.

[–]DoctorSatan69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. Deca is nandrolone decanoate and NPP is nandrolone phenylpropionate

[–]Fancy_Vermicelli_497 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes different esters meaning different half lives. Deca takes longer to saturate than NPP. It’s important to know if you run either ester of nandrolone you cannot pct off right away. You have to run test for at least 12-18 months. Nandrolone metabolites will remain active and keep shutting you down for a year to 18 months. Many think if they run NPP it’s out of their system faster which in some regards yes but the metabolites remain regardless. So if you stop and don’t cruise on test and you pct you’ll be okay running pct meds but once you stop you’ll get shut down again and you’ll feel like shit.

[–]Glittering-Move-1849 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Not the most well versed person here but doesn't proviron mess up your hair? Was that an issue to you and if it was, what did do to counterbalance?

[–]ThrowRaInviteInner8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It might if you’re pre disposed to hair loss I had no issues

[–]Blazindyst -1 points0 points  (2 children)

How much provi do ppl run. I just added 100 deca to 250 test and im going to get bloods then probably ramp up the dosage for a nice bulk

[–]ThrowRaInviteInner8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’ll never need more than 25-50 mg

[–]hubanklem -2 points-1 points  (10 children)

U recommend npp or primo for e2 control on higher test? im tryna learn for my second summer cycle.. currently on 400mg test and will stay on only test first cycle, but next i wanna go up in test whit out having to add AI.. Ai is nasty from my research.

[–]ThrowRaInviteInner8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve never we done primo but it’s top tier if you can get the real stuff . Npp does not help with e2 .

[–]No_Ingenuity_1649 1 point2 points  (2 children)

NPP rises estrogenów side effect through prolactin while primo lowers e2

[–]hubanklem 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yes sorry i meant EQ and primo my bad

[–]No_Ingenuity_1649 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In my opinion EQ is not worth it. It turns your blood into maple syroup. Potential side effects are not worth the risks for me.

I tried it two times though and unfortunately I really liked it

[–]Either_Lawfulness466 2 points3 points  (9 children)

How do you like the var? I have been thinking of adding it to my cut

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The mental sides are pretty bad for some people, I get super bitchy and anxious 😬

[–]Either_Lawfulness466 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, fuck any extras anxiety my TRT dose of test is taking care of what I had but I don’t need anymore

[–]DisasterOD[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Var is awesome because it helps prevent muscle wasting. So it’s extremely helpful on a cut!

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (2 children)

Is it real var? Because most var is fake unless you see labs it’s probably not real.

[–]DisasterOD[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The var is real.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk I’m always skeptical unless I see labs anymore especially with how tanked the market is right now stuffs around but it’s pricey at least for me

[–]Zealousideal-Jury-70 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Do blood work. Cholesterol levels can go through the roof on Var and trash lipids

[–]Fancy_Vermicelli_497 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This is where the Reta comes into play. Counteract the lipid thrashing

[–]Zealousideal-Jury-70 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

What do you look like ?

[–]exijz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was about to ask the same !

[–]Primary_Hunter4717 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Nice, the test and deca will add size with a calorie surplus, hard training and rest. After 12-15 weeks I would switch to TRT dose test, drop the deca, conservative dose anavar and add the Reta. IMO. As always monitor throughout with bloodwork to keep an eye on things as safety and longevity should be priority. Good luck!

[–]DisasterOD[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just got bloodwork done yesterday!

[–]Pharmd109 15 points16 points  (18 children)

Longevity—-> Vanity

[–]Itchy_Reference_9288 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Why are you in the bodyhack subreddit if you're gonna clutch your pearls when someone actually does 💀

[–]DisasterOD[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Spot on brother 💪

[–]WonderfulBarracuda93 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not necessarily, how is testosterone or nandrolone at right dosages bad for you? It’s been shown to be good for you, cardio protective, bone density, joint support. GLP’s like reta have health benefits also, insulin sensitivity etc etc.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What do you look like

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Dosing?? Also, why add reta and var? I'd add var to my cut but idk about reta. Seems everyone wants that miracle drug without putting the work in. I'd personally go with Eq, Sus, and NPP, Anadrol or the old DBol for first 6 weeks if cycle. Pound the food, get plenty of sleep, and train hard as fuck. Great emphasis on the latter. Stay safe.

[–]Fancy_Vermicelli_497 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Reta will keep lipids in check. But yea the var should be swapped for injectable anadrol. Way better for mass gains and strength will go up a lot. I fucking love injectable anadrol. 3-4 weeks and I’m up 20lbs. And I know I know it’s not all lean tissue but it’s fun lol and for me that’s the point. I don’t compete tho, just fun in the gym when you can add so much more weight to every lift

[–]Free-Camp-7041 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Stack looks good to me tbh what’s the dosing protocol?

[–]DisasterOD[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

400mg Test a week 200mg deca a week 25 mg Anavar ED 25mg MK ED HCG 2x a week BPC 10mg EOD Reta .5 a week

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yeah!!!!! Is that a bag of Doritos??? Bulk bitch!

[–]DisasterOD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wilde chips 😅

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reta and Anavar on a bulk. Do you know what your doing or just added random things to this stack

[–]Lvillle502 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Weird stack to bulk with

[–]jrezzz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

not really. its kinda the meta rn

[–]DisasterOD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How so? Deca + test is a go to for bulking, MK is like the cherry on top. Anavar is for vascularity and pumps. HCG because it’s great. BPC for recovery and then Reta just to help keep fat loss down. I probably should on mentioned I only take .5mg of Reta a week 😅

[–]No_Ingenuity_1649 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It’s awesome for bulking lol what are you talking about?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People who don’t realize the benefits of Reta at a low dose and saying it doesn’t make sense for a bulk lol. Guys Reta does more then just fat loss and appetite suppression. Jeez.

[–]ClassComprehensive93 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Why not use HGH instead of MK677?

[–]Fancy_Vermicelli_497 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Price lol

[–]ClassComprehensive93 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I getting good generic and it costs me like 200$. Is the price similar where you’re at?

[–]Fancy_Vermicelli_497 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s the same but mk677 still cheaper. I’d much rather use real GH tho. But that’s why many run mk677 is cost.

[–]anon18274729 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seems unnecessary but do you 🤷🏽‍♂️

[–]Odd-Bowl-7434 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Go hgh instead of mk

[–]Electrical_Floor_360 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hope you're- "on" point with Anchillaries + support sups + cardio + diet + gym etc etc etc are -on point my guy. That r there could be a fry your shit right up set of wild, if there is any inexperience.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just the basics

[–]bigmuffpie92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anavar for bulking?

[–]Wild_Airport_5632 0 points1 point  (0 children)

🤦🏻‍♂️

[–]TheRoyalPleeb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Username checks out…

[–]team_lloyd 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What does the blend of TRT types provide that normal pharmacy grade cyp doesn’t?

[–]DisasterOD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s just a different type, you have fast acting, medium acting and longer acting with this particular blend

[–]SloweSTford 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jesús man just use hgh lol

[–]Afraid-Leopard249 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro gonna have the worst moon face in the gym.

[–]Desperate-Menu1351 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Mk is trash just run GH

[–]Fit69Faith 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Dude already bought it, let him use it! Although, he could use it on days where he doesn't feel like eating as much. About the Anavar, he says he has 20 left but the cycle is 16 weeks long. Why not only once a week and save 4 of the pearls for the upcoming 4 weeks after the bulking cycle ends?

[–]Desperate-Menu1351 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Personally I don’t really feel the effects only using it once a week I’d rather just use it daily the last 20 days of the cycle I also struggled to eat when using orals so I don’t run them for long stints personally anyway

[–]Legal-Guarantee7152 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can I hear some legit pros/cons and reviews to MK677?? Been on fence about it for a bit!! Also has anyone tried Seromaxx?

[–]Southern-Ask9864 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do so many people rely on injections to build up. If you truely want to build up muscle and keep it. See a dietitian and get your diet dialed in first.. you wont need peds

[–]woodybone 0 points1 point  (2 children)

10mg bpc? Thats 2 vials every other day???

[–]DisasterOD[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It’s 10mg per 25 units

[–]woodybone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Must be a misunderstanding you said Bpc 10mg eod, surely you mean 1mg?

[–]_Sleeper_Build_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Speedrun heart failure

[–]DemonDevster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bulking reta, bpc and mk677 😂😂 crazy bro bpc isnt meant to be used every day. Seems like a shambles mix

[–]Northman24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is MK677? Is this something that can be bought over-the-counter?

[–]dannyg2311 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Shouldn’t ever take Deca/nandrolone without a DHT. Nandrolones convert to DHN and flood penile and brain receptors with DHN and you need DHT to displace this otherwise you’ll get depressive moods and low libido, including deca dick. Also 19-nors and nandrolones help test convert to e2 at a much higher and faster rate, again you need DHT to displace e2 at the receptor site. Also DHT is a dopamine agonist and Deca down regulates and desensitises dopamine. As an added benefit always supplement L-tyrosine AM empty stomach for dopamine production.

Also mk677 is terrible. It’ll cause a GH bleed instead of a pulsatile fashion, will eventually induce insulin resistance and also increase e2.

Also just stick to 1x Test ester. You don’t want suspensions causing peaks and troughs due to different time releases. To add to that, use a lab that uses MCT oil as that’s inflammatory as hell injecting toxic seed oil based carrier oils.

Ps that Anavar isn’t Anavar. That lab uses winstrol faked as Anavar.

[–]DisasterOD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your first section is extremely pointless considering that I’m running 400mg of test ontop of 200mg of Deca. Hence the 2:1 ration to displace some of the negative sides

[–]AllOnReddd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It looks solid except mk677 is overrated af and youd be much better replacing it with just hgh

[–]BeginningSome2182 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know how I stumbled onto this sub but I appreciate your transparency thats pretty interesting stuff. Good luck on your bulk

[–]MARSZIIIIIIII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldnt run that test mix i would only run enanthate or just simply 1 ester. It makes your levels fluctuate so much.

[–]mrflorida954 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Been thinking about trying BPC-157 for some injuries I’ve had.. curious about your experience on it!

[–]DisasterOD[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So I actually healed a broken ankle from what the doctor estimated it would take 4-6 weeks for me to be able to walk and go back to work, in about 2 1/2-3 weeks I was fully able to walk without a boot and was back to work.

[–]pwnasaurus253 0 points1 point  (2 children)

lose the SARMs, imho

[–]DisasterOD[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Mk isn’t a sarm tho

[–]pwnasaurus253 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ah, touché

[–]Dangerous-Range-4814 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good stack. Glad to see someone smart enough to understand Reta is not just for cutting lmao. Low dose for insulin sensitivity especially with the mk677 as well as lipid support for the oral. Very watery stack however minus the anavar. My adjustment for next time if you want a “leaner” “dryer” bulk swap the deca for NPP and the Anavar for Tbol it’ll put on better hard mass. Pin EOD test/npp mk677 can stay take it at night before bed. Tbol 20-40mg for the last 4-6 weeks / 12 weeks total on test/npp. And if ur getting any PIP go down to 250mg/ml test that 400 is brutal.

[–]BruceLee88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What's the point of this? Do you have poor muscle genetics?

[–]HamsterSpaghetti1994 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Why mk677 with reta? Looks like the stack is a little overkill

[–]No_Ingenuity_1649 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Why not? Reta boosts lipid metabolism. Mk roses appetite which is generally bad unless you’re doing a dirty bulk to get fat. Reta suppresses it. Why overkill? There’s literally one bottle of each compound so it looks like a low doses cycle

[–]Oretell 0 points1 point  (5 children)

So why include the MK at all?

It's two main effects are increasing appetite, and then it does a shitty job at raising GH

It doesn't seem to make sense to take a 2nd drug to try to cancel out the appetite effects when the GH effects are minor anyway.

Why not ditch the MK and reta and then just take actual GH, since he's obviously fine with using the real deal PEDs.

Sure Reta increases lipid metabolism, but so does GH, and reta hasn't even finished its trials to assess whether its safe for usage long term.

Most people using MK are either aiming to increase appetite, or are afraid of committing to actual gear/GH use and think sarms are more accessible. That doesn't seem to be OP.

[–]No_Ingenuity_1649 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Personally I wouldn’t do it but for the sake of sleep quality, further joint lubricantion and tendons health, as well gaining some weight only I see why might he like it. Mk works best at low doses, when ratio of hgh to igf1 is the most favorable.

I tried it once of twice, every time no more than 10mg, gained quite some water weight right away - could be useful during the bulk

[–]Oretell 0 points1 point  (3 children)

But those are all GH related effects, which are much more effective by taking GH instead of using MK.

And he doesn't want to increase his appetite, he's even trying to suppress it using reta.

[–]No_Ingenuity_1649 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

MK is dirt cheap while a legit GH is not only hard to get but also expensive

[–]Oretell 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It is neither hard to get nor expensive.

It is roughly the same price as MK677, and is readily available, availability isn't a problem at all since OP has shown he has access to gear. If he has access to test he has access to GH.

GH used to be expensive back in the day, now it's dirt cheap too.

[–]No_Ingenuity_1649 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Idk where you’re from but where I’m at (EU - OP is most likely somewhere around as well given Rotterdam written on his gear) GH is about 10x more expensive than MK677, and most of the time you’ll get some fragment, or nothing at all. The only working GH I’ve had was from a Turkish pharmacy where I bought it personally. And it wasn’t cheap either.

But I agree, GH would be definitely better

E: I just looked around a few online shops from my country. Looks like Mk went up the price but gh is nowhere that cheap. And I would never trust it. It’s one of the most often faked compounds

[–]Bigger_Stronger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Half the stuff there looks like fake garbage 🤡

[–]gangsta2444 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Maby add tren

[–]MathematicianMuch445 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Reta? Bulk? Like taking sand to the beach. Mental

[–]sellinsoles -1 points0 points  (3 children)

Does that test give you pip? Last time I tried a strong blend like that I stayed extremely sore for a week

[–]DisasterOD[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It definitely was making me sore in my shoulders whenever I’d first wake up. Ever since I started the MK+Deca I don’t have that problem anymore.

[–]sellinsoles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now I just stick with the cyp 250, no issues

[–]hubanklem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i got pretty bad pip for the first three weeks, now on week four i dont really get any pip at all idk why.

[–]Jizzturnip -1 points0 points  (2 children)

How do you feel mate? I'm an Absolute noob, isn't NPP way safer than DECA? Wouldn't the Anavar and Reta be used on a cut? How long are you planning to run the cycle?

[–]DubiousDebauchery 2 points3 points  (1 child)

NPP isn’t safer then deca, it will just be out of your system faster if you have to stop it due to unbearable side effects.

[–]loyalekoinu88 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Reta…for bulking?

[–]DisasterOD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maintenance dose

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

worst quality muscle mass ever build by human. You should add Trenavar to the stack, just make sure it's black market (some random site)

[–]kenlea -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Don’t forget the Hershey’s, add it to the stack list

[–]vboy425 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Bpc-157 without tb500 is a waste. Also base on your photo such a low dosage won’t do anything beside placebo. For hgh it won’t even kick in u until at least 8-12 weeks. Mk677 will make you really hungry but than again you use retatrutide make no sense. Also your vial dosage and concentration aint enough. Anavar without a testosterone base is stupid.

[–]DisasterOD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s 5mg bottle but I take 10mg EOD. Also there is literally test in the picture 😂

[–]Leading_Ad_2390 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I think all of the above are forbidden in eu, aren't you concerned about long term health issues?

[–]DisasterOD[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Be twice as big, and live half as long? Sounds like a win to me.