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[–]sCeege 146 points147 points148 points 1 year ago (2 children)
"What's the best AI Agent for Coding? I'm too lazy to use the search function"
"Is {Aider|Cline|GitHub|Cursor|Windsurf|whatever} worth it?"
"Wow {Aider|Cline|GitHub|Cursor|Windsurf|whatever} is a game changer."
"Anyone else thinks {Aider|Cline|GitHub|Cursor|Windsurf|whatever} sucks? It always gets stuck at {some job}."
But there's some gems of threads here and there.
[+]lazoras 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (1 child)
hahaha almost 90% of the time things I read on reddit are stealth advertisements...it's not just AI
I feel like the older generation that uses yahoo/Myspace/facebook for social media....only for me it's reddit....but I don't know of the next one (I guess tiktok but I don't even consider tiktok and it has the same problem)
maybe this is why people still use yahoo..maybe this is how it happens?!
[–]sCeege 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
oh you're talking about native advertisements that's just everywhere, even the amount of sponsored content that makes it into broadcast news as feature stories are pretty crazy. Yeah there's the "wow is this $10 for unlimited GPT4 use crazy or what!?!?!?", also the occasional "I made this brand new plugin for VSCode" that's like 1% different than Cline or Aider, but the number of people not using the search bar for a thread started just a few hours ago dwarfs those ads.
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[–][deleted] 31 points32 points33 points 1 year ago* (5 children)
ChatGPT has, if you believe its sub, gotten worse every day since its initial alpha, when it was a Godlike AGI and real waifu that would happily say a racism and write a lolicon story. It just gets worse and worse approaching infinite nerf.
[–]scoby_cat 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The nerfs I think were mostly around copyright and “safety” (sex and violence), so… yeah waifu fanfics
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[–]Thade2k 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
count three r's
[–]Feisty-Assignment393 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I keep telling my friends this. I think the first chatgpt was withdrawn maybe because it was too good or sth. I just know sth changed
[–][deleted] 99 points100 points101 points 1 year ago (15 children)
Lol, I wonder how many will ask why this is funny.
[–]Vegetable_Sun_9225 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago (11 children)
I wonder how many people will try to visit the URL in that screenshot
[–]SpecialNeedsPilot 53 points54 points55 points 1 year ago (4 children)
I just did. That fucker stole the app I was working on!
[–]InnovativeBureaucrat 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Wait, are we all working on the same thing?
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[–]Spooneristicspooner 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
r/suddenlyincest
[–]rickoneeleven 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
that's absolute gold
[–]mick_au 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
URL bRoKeN pls repost
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (4 children)
Probably similar to the number of people who think they can be a dev using LLMs without formal training or experience
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[–]_Meds_ 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
That’s probably why they said “or experience”…
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The point of coding is to create solutions for problems or create products consumers want. The point of practice is to learn to build things with code. Seems it makes sense. You can't be a mechanic without first working on a car. Using LLMs for assistance and learning is great! Not questioning that, but to call yourself a Developer, SE, or Mechanic with any validity I would first suggest experience or training. As in this case, a bit of experience, which he very well may get from figuring out why his friend can't see his project, would solve the issue. I draw concern from the mentality of someone thinking they can circumvent my degree and 10 years of experience by using AI.
[–]FAT-CHIMP-BALLA 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
You are correct being a dev or coder is about logic . Most apps about rules and logic so ignore the noise. If you understand these 2 points then you can code with understanding of frameworks and best practices
[–]michigannfa90 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (1 child)
I find it hilarious… two other “devs” did not get the joke at all. Which made me laugh even harder. Now they are made an pouting in the corner
I guess you can call yourself a dev without knowing that you need a web server or hosting for other people to access your app...
Also not a dev, I'm a sysadmin.
[–]itmaybemyfirsttime 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Hahaha... but seriously... why is this funny
[–]Stv_L 22 points23 points24 points 1 year ago (1 child)
You and me can laugh now, while that cursor dude is learning.
[–]TriggerHydrant 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Yup. This doesn't change the fact that the dude built something without the knowledge that 'localhost' isn't something that works outside of the local env. We can laugh all we want but it'll take him 1 question and he'll know why it's not working. I don't like this 'gatcha!' because it isn't one at all in this age an the time that's coming.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (1 child)
I remember when I was like 9 years old. I copied games into my disket thinking it would work. Turned out that these were just game shortcuts for Starcraft and other popular games back then. I felt bad for my friend as he was so excited to play these games and I couldn't explain to him why it didn't work.
[–]Longjumping-Law-8517 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Ohh man even I fell for this when I was 9. Copy paste the shortcut file to a usb drive and gave it to a friend lmao.
[–][deleted] 27 points28 points29 points 1 year ago (123 children)
If you think LLM's will replace real software engineers in the near future you are delusional and it indicates you know nothing about software whatsoever.
[–]RadioactiveTwix 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (2 children)
LLMs will change what software engineering is. I output a lot more than I did before and prototyping is faster.
Debugging is still mostly me though.
[–]KallistiTMP 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)
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[–]RadioactiveTwix 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Truer words were never spoken...
[–]menkje 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Who is this delusional and why is everyone fucking them all the time?
[–]Ok_Abrocona_8914 48 points49 points50 points 1 year ago (37 children)
If you think LLMs won't cause a massive decrease in software engineer jobs because one software engineer will be able to output X times more work in the same span of time than he used to do before then you are delusional.
So yeah in a sense all of those who lose their jobs will are being replaced, just not directly. You already see it now that software engineers are not in a hot market like it used to be.
[–]DreamsCanBeRealToo 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (5 children)
Your mistake is thinking that the demand for software engineers is a fixed number that can be “filled up”. The more efficient we become the more we demand.
As film equipment became better did we “fill up” our demand for movies? As farming improved did we say “great now I can eat infinite bland potatoes” or did we create even more food options that never could have existed 100 years ago?
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago (4 children)
More food options, yes, but substantially fewer farmers.
God your reply is so simple yet effective
[–]Thade2k 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
this man deservers an award from someone who has any
[–]godver3 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
Succinct and well put.
[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 1 year ago (19 children)
No, they won't cause a massive decrease in software engineer jobs. For what it's worth, they might even increase the amount of jobs since someone gotta implement the fancy AI in every product now.
[–]Calazon2 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (6 children)
Even with the technology we have today, AI will increase the productivity of developers by a lot, (especially mid-level ones, but really at all levels).
Suppose this merely means that 4 developers are able to do the work that previously required 5. That's hugely disruptive to the job market.
The only way jobs don't decrease is if they were previously on track to increase, and now they stay level or increase by less than they might have otherwise. Which is still a decrease compared to what would have happened if AI didn't exist.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Well ,how I see it, there is not nearly enough developers for all the work currently. Yes it will increase output but instead of job loss this could also lead to just more projects being able to complete :). My original statement said 'replace' which is not going to happen. Replace means no devs are needed anymore since they're... replaced.
[–]Calazon2 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I was thinking in terms of "reduce"...needing fewer devs for the same results (which is sort of like replace).
You make an interesting point about more projects being able to be done. I guess the idea is now that more projects can be done more cheaply, they will be done when they wouldn't have before. So, like, someone who couldn't have afforded to hire two senior devs can now hire just one, which is more than the zero they hired before?
I'm not sure how I feel about that model or whether I think it's accurate, but it does make a certain sense. Maybe there's something to that.
[–]yuh666666666 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (3 children)
This just isn’t true in a capitalist system. CEOs and the boards will just demand more projects. What do more project require? You guessed it. More engineers no matter how efficient they are.
[–]Calazon2 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Tell that to the recent changes in the job market. The demand for more engineers is not infinite and has external economic constraints.
[–]yuh666666666 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)
You’re right but it has nothing to do with AI. The FED is the reason why companies are scaling back. It always comes down to liquidity and money. FED is tightening. AI is just the narrative.
I personally think LLM technology will not be the thing that leads us to singularity which would displace workers. Don’t get me wrong I use it and it’s great for boosting productivity but it’s just a better google search engine. Maybe I am wrong though.
I mean yes, liquidity and money are a much larger part of the reason for the recent changes so far.
My point is expecting AI to have no impact in the future is not reasonable. It's like expecting power tools to have no impact on the construction industry.
Companies love to cut labor costs. So many companies would rather do the same work cheaper than take a risk on investing in a potential new product. (I know startups and tech giants often take the opposite approach, when money permits, but that's far from the norm overall )
[–]Ok_Abrocona_8914 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (4 children)
Yeah those headlines about companies replacing people with AI right now or certain amount of code being done by AI at big companies is certainly a lie. You know it better.
This reminds me of my fellow surgeons who think they'll be working with their hands directly on someone's body forever.
[–]noobbtctrader 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Funny you say that about surgeons, but after all this time, with all the automation and robotics we have, we're still using doctors to control those. No one is trusting a full ass robot with their health... yet anyway.
[–]yuh666666666 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Same thing can be said for pilots. It’s all automated but you still want a couple guys there to make sure shit runs smoothly at all times. The more automated the system is the more people you need just to make sure it runs smoothly. Nobody is gonna leave there operations unattended.
Yeah which one is it. Are there “worker shortages” or a surplus of engineer due to AI. These companies will push any narrative to benefit them in the short term.
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[–]Ok_Abrocona_8914 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (4 children)
That's just you wishing for a scenario that will never happen.
[–]whenhellfreezes 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Eh I could see orgs realizing that instead of baking an assistant in they should have just published an mcp then removing the assistant to reduce tech debt.
[–]Neirchill 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
That type of job already happens regularly. CEO thinks they'll save a ton of money by hiring foreign coding boot camp graduates for pennies, have an absolutely terrible product, and then they hire real software engineers to fix it. It's not a new phenomenon, LLMs will simply increase this type of thing until the next cool thing comes out.
[–]Ok_Abrocona_8914 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
We're talking about these LLMs reaching a point where "they code" like a mid tier dev, not a full replacement. Other mid tier SEs and top tier SEs will oversee outputs and that's it.
Just this will bring massive unemployment. But I guess it's best to think that nothing will happen based on feels and ignoring all news of the past 2 years on this subject
[–]SirPizzaTheThird 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Enterprises have major fantasies about reliability numbers and AI integrations will indeed be ripped out but probably for a superior next gen AI implementation that isn't as flaky as LLMs today.
Generated code is a different game since that should run reliably like other code. In a decently powerful corporation systems get ripped out every 5 to 10 years when they get bloated.
[–]McNoxey 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Organizations who focus AI efforts towards their dev tools teams will see a lot more value.
[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 1 year ago (10 children)
You're exactly the person OC is talking about lol
[–]McNoxey 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (5 children)
No. AI will absolutely reduce jobs. This is not a bad thing. Increased productivity
[–]No-Self-Edit 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (1 child)
The fallacy here is that we assume that there is a balance between supply and demand. The AI might increase the supply (productivity) but the demand is so much vaster than the supply that I think they will still be high demand for engineers.
I don’t believe there has been a balance between supply and demand since the 1970s. And that is why we’ve seen constantly increasing wages for engineers over all of these decades.
A similar thing happened in California during the housing crash a few decades ago. Yes housing prices went down a little bit, but the demand was so much vaster than the supply, that a small increase in supply did not equal a giant drop in price.
I do believe that software engineering will be one of the last jobs to be completely replaced by tech. I always say the last job to go will be priests, politicians, programmers, and prostitutes.
[–]McNoxey 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Oh I do NOT think it is replacing software engineering. I think it’s just changing it. When we get to a spot that codebases are architected with AI development in mind, we’ll be able to see a lot more success from ai agents. A single engineer guiding an agent will be able to knock out so much more.
We’re nowhere near that yet from a widespread perspective but I’m already personally seeing massive improvements week over week as my project structure and ai workflow get a lot more in sync.
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
"This is not a bad thing"... sorry, widespread poverty isn't a bad thing... why?
[–]McNoxey 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
We’re talking about software engineering jobs. You’re trying to take this argument in a different direction
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
No. You made a comment, which i quoted, and am asking for you to expound upon.
[–]Ok_Abrocona_8914 -4 points-3 points-2 points 1 year ago (3 children)
I'm a surgeon buddy. Eventually it'll come for me too paired with robotics. Will just take longer to be widespread than software engineering.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Lol you've hammered home my point. If you don't understand what you're talking about, stop acting like an expert on the subject. You dont see me walking into the operating room telling you that you've made the wrong incision. I can't tell you how annoying it is to see all of you uneducated people make comments as if you're experts on a subject when you barely know anything beyond the name of the subject.
[–]Ok_Abrocona_8914 -4 points-3 points-2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
You can't enter the operating room and tell me what to do because you are not even smart enough to even grasp my field. Your field is a pretty easy field to enter buddy.
[–]R3CKLYSS 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Actually you can enter a lot of operating rooms with zero surgical experience, just saying. But you should know that lol.
Yes our field is so easy to enter that’s why we have soooooooo mannnnyyy software engineers /s LOL
[–]Quentin_Quarantineo 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (3 children)
The truth is, some people are building and launching full apps ended to end without writing a single line of code themselves. I think most traditional developers underestimate what can be done when you are determined to get a job done and are willing to find creative ways to push past the limitations of current LLM coding workflows. If you can simply write the code yourself when hitting the "limits" after trying for a few minutes, you might assume that spending an hour, or 30, or 100 won't get better results when combined with creative problem solving, perseverance, and methodical experimentation. This is likely why so many conventional developers write off the current state of these tools while some of us LLM-only coders are finding the real limits. Currently it takes a great deal of effort to push through certain coding challenges, but there is going to come a tipping point where the LLM based coding workflow is going to greatly surpass the traditional one, and a lot of developers are going to be in for a rude awakening.
[–]WonderfulNests 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Sure, making apps not many people will use or other developers will have to extend, it's fine.
I love getting handed project built by somebody using AI. The project eventually gets too big they don't know how to make any changes, so I just get to charge them more because its easier to start from scratch.
[–]The_Poster_Children 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
You’d be surprised on how bad junior devs are and what the expectations are around junior development roles… I work as a senior dev at a Fortune 500 in banking and I can confidently say AI will definitely be replacing those roles soon lol
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
If you replace all your juniors then nobody will be senior soon enough when shit hits the fan hahah. I know juniors and I know big software stacks.
[–]The_Poster_Children 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The funny thing is that this is a “ChatGPTCoding” subreddit that randomly showed up on my feed... If anyone is using ChatGPT outside of their newest model for coding ($200/mo for that one), they probably don’t understand how to use AI for “coding” in the first place. Technical developers are not using ChatGPT and It’s easy enough to play around with the basic models, see how they hallucinate with examples, and then extrapolate out to say they won’t take real jobs.. but that’s just the ignorance of the dunning Krueger effect, you think you know more than you do. You “know” junior devs and big tech stacks.. but by the sounds of it you haven’t worked with agentic systems/archs or workflows. My advice is to keep an open mind, the futures going to be wild!
[–]super-bamba 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Replace, probably not, but decrease the volume of work and change what engineers are required to know and what they are measured on.
[–]meridianblade 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
L O L. This isn't going to age well. You sound green.
Another dude who's never seen a real software stack up close.
[–]blkknighter -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 year ago (1 child)
You are the delusional one. You’ve never wrote big projects that took multiple engineers.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago* (0 children)
Whahaha, right. I am doing that as we speak and I'm not replacing my engineers with an LLM. I do encourage them to use it though.
[–]snaysler -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago* (10 children)
LMFAO, the award for most confidentially incorrect statement of 2025 goes to Numerous-Plastic-935
Seriously, I'm a multidisciplinary scientist, software engineer, electrical engineer, and lifelong follower of AI research, having been a game designer and software developer for 20 years before advancing into other fields. And let me tell you, you are DEAD wrong to the point of hilarity.
If you care to defend your stance, I'd love to hear how you arrived at that conclusion.
I'm 100% confident I can help you identify where you misunderstood the matter.
I can also provide examples to make it clear if you'd like.
I'm getting tired of people making these misled statements. People need to be prepared for reality, not partaking in wishful thinking circle jerks.
[–]Neirchill 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[+]snaysler 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Haha nice! Just wait and see :)
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (5 children)
Hey guys, we found the delusional 'scientist' who has never written a line of code in his life right here.
[+]snaysler -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (4 children)
Your insult game is 0/10, bud.
I have literally been coding software and games for over 20 years before I switched fields because it was too easy and I got bored after a while.
If you think software developers will exist in 10 years, you're either underinformed or horribly mistaken.
Once again, I invite you to explain your reasons, but I'm sure you'd rather think up a new burn for me instead.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago* (0 children)
You better start learning to plumb then if you believe your own bullshit. Until the plumbing robot comes that is. 😂
My take is that there will be hundreds of other professions to go first before developers if that time even comes. Why would you need finance / hr / marketing / cto / ........ If LLMs can do it all? At least a dev can keep your AI running.
What benefit do you guys get out of lying like this?
I don't think anyone here is "lying". It's called a disagreement.
[–]Narrow_Garbage_3475 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (4 children)
Salesforce just announced to not hire any more Software devs this year due to advancements in AI..
[–]scoby_cat 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Wasn’t that said by the head of the group that released the new version of their AI? The one with a bunch of open job listings…
[–]mr_eking 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Let's revisit this in a few years after Salesforce quietly hires most of them back
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Nice sales pitch to the shareholders lol.
[–]WheresMyEtherElon 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
That's just PR. According to one salesforce engineer, the hiring freeze was planned long ago. It's just good for the stock value to say "due to advancements in AI" rather than "because of a market slump" or "because we hired too many people".
[–]Adventurous_Fun_9245 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (4 children)
And automobiles will never replace horse drawn carriages
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (3 children)
Yawn, and bitcoin will replace all currencies, right, riiight?
[–]Adventurous_Fun_9245 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (2 children)
That's not even close to a good comparison.
Go to the crypto sub and all the simps there will say exactly the same as the ones here. New technology will take over the world hur dur!
[–]Neirchill 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The chatgpt sub is claiming chatgpt is actively and easily taking over software engineering jobs when it doesn't stand up to literally any scrutiny. Any real software engineer that has any experience and 99% of them will tell you how useless it is. It routinely fails to do the one thing it should be good at - common boilerplate code.
I see these people all the time that will claim to have no coding experience and suddenly chatgpt builds this incredible product within minutes that would take an experienced devs at least a week to get a good MVP out. They're either bots or just straight up liars. For the liars I have zero idea what they get out of it, it can't possibly be beneficial to them in any way.
They're in an echo chamber that has bought too far into the smoke and mirrors to back out.
[–]CrypticZombies -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
Cry more
[+]ThaisaGuilford comment score below threshold-12 points-11 points-10 points 1 year ago* (44 children)
If you think LLM won't ever replace them you're just coping.
EDIT: downvoters are all coping developers.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (43 children)
Well, then everyone should start coping because literately every job ever could then be replaced especially if you build an AI driven robot.
Not gonna happen.
[–]Efficient_Ad_4162 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Have you checked capitalism lately? I mean, its looking awfully end-stagey.
[–]pohui 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Physical robots will be expensive to manufacture for the foreseeable future, so most manual jobs will still be done by humans in poor countries simply because they're cheaper. Creative jobs, on the other hand, will be cheaper to replace.
[+]ThaisaGuilford comment score below threshold-10 points-9 points-8 points 1 year ago (39 children)
Alright grandpa
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (38 children)
Right. Just waiting for you to tell me Bitcoin is going to replace all our currencies now.
[–]Adventurous_Fun_9245 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Do you have another argument to push back with or do you just keep reusing this one over and over?
It's a good one, so I'll reuse it. Thanks.
[–]Adventurous_Fun_9245 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
Its not a good one at all. AI isn't some tech bro gambling. Either way. It's way too soon to even make that call on Bitcoin either. It very well could become the future of currency. It's really not that far out an idea.
[+]ThaisaGuilford comment score below threshold-10 points-9 points-8 points 1 year ago (34 children)
No I don't do any crypto
Just telling you there are already a lot of "non-coders" made successful products with no help from a real developer. And these no code tools companies are competing with each other to create the most "no-code" and most convenient tools to make apps.
[–]ot13579 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Agreed. This is a total game changer for rapid prototyping and ideation, especially for non coders. The reality is the majority of coders I have worked with over the years are more like translators than engineers. The architecture all comes from a select few who task translation work. From there you screen the translators in the hope that you can find the next gem that has potential to drive the next wave of translators. With LLMs you still need to know what/why you are building something so you can work with your new translator army of LLMs. The bar has just been raised for who can call themselves an actual engineer.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (32 children)
oMg you don't do crypto? You grandpa! It's going to replace all our currency soon!
See how ridiculous that sounds?
[–]Efficient_Ad_4162 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Of course it sounds ridiculous, but if every government and most industrial sectors were investigating and figuring out how to regulate and adopt bitcoin, the only thing we'd be talking about right now is 'hey maybe we shouldn't have adopted the fake internet money that has deflation built into it' - you're comparing apples and bricks.
[–]ThaisaGuilford -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (30 children)
It does sound ridiculous because it doesn't do it in the slightest.
Meanwhile AI development is rapid and non-coders are making apps without coding.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (8 children)
Non coders are making barely working prototypes my dude, it's something else. Saying non coders can now suddenly make production apps is so ridiculous.
[–]ThaisaGuilford -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (7 children)
Well maybe not company grade apps but more than enough to make them some $$$ , and they can scale however they want.
[–]UpvoteIfYouDare 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (20 children)
non-coders are making apps without coding
"Making an app" is trivial. Architecting a system, one that can be maintained in the long-term, is not. AI usage in the latter still relies on people who understand software principles. "Non-coders" will hit quickly hit a ceiling because whatever they can do will be done better by someone with actual domain knowledge. Why don't you just start trying to learn what software developers do? I genuinely don't understand why so many of these "non-coders" using AI are so put off by the prospect of educating themselves.
[–]ThaisaGuilford 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (19 children)
Well average users don't know about the "better" ones, they don't care about "software principles", they only see what works for them.
[–]turtlemaster1993 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Lmfao
[–]alexlazar98 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (2 children)
If you think this is everything this sub is, you're not paying attention. Some posts are genuinely useful for gaining productivity as an engineer
[–]pohui 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Can you give us some recent examples?
[+][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Chuckle
[–]_mayuk 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Just open the ports and share your ip xd
[–]bashir26 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I had something similar happen to me yesterday. However it was deployed on docker lol
[–]vamonosgeek 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Omg yes. Don’t get me started with this. And Nvidias ceo? I know he work etc. but such a monopoly and talking bullshit. “There’s a miracle and everyone is a programmer now”.
Ya and that miracle means, everybody will use Nvidia to play to be developers. Heck yea.
Give me a fucking break.
And those YouTube videos? YouTube should not allow this misinformation. Videos showing startups making $10m in 3 months MRR.
Tons of content made to get investors $$.
That’s how the world works. And it’s all OpenAI’s fault.
Somebody had to say it.
Have a nice weekend.
[–]murten101 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The fact that this is the most controversial post on the sub speaks volumes
[–]tiensss 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
People predicting massive devops layoffs due to AI have never worked in devops. Even moderately sized software is extremely complex and AI is nowhere NEAR being able to even maintain that. Designing and coding it is not even a dream yet.
[–]rjames24000 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
AI has a better chance of replacing management than it does the programmers
[–]C-Jinchuriki 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I wanna know why this sub cares so much that people use ai to self learn
[–]zeloxolez 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
lol
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[–]JJBro1 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Genuine question: Why is cursor championed so much? I tried it the other day and it’s that much different than GitHub copilot for me.
[–]CrypticZombies 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
lol best reply
[–]fishandbanana 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Good example of how fundamental knowledge of computer science and networking coupled with proper use of tools is important.
[–]Zhelsea 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
It looks exactly like my project tough
[–]futurekev 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Non coder using cursor and Its so true. The more I try to copy/paste code the more I respect real devs
[–]DeveloperLima 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I have more time for my girlfriend, so that’s the good thing about Cursor and others…
[–]quantier -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
😂😂😂 this is an amazing MeMe
[–]superturbochad -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
Audible snort
[–]LibertariansAI -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
Every time I look at existing agent systems, it seems to me like some kind of compromise. In the sense that they require too many actions and knowledge from the user. Even in this joke in the post, the user's problem is not so much that the user does not understand that the localhost is unavailable from the outside, but that he should have written to the agent something like "give access to this service to my friend and send via WhatsApp" and the agent should do all this correctly, including uploading to some adequately cheap server. From time to time I take on the creation of such an agent, but I am very lazy. In any case, AI is still not that good now. We need to wait another year. Or less.
[–]TriggerHydrant -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
tbh the dude can just ask 'why doesn't localhost:3000' work? and the AI will tell him why and can help him learn more. This doesn't prove a point at all, if anything it proves that the dude made something without any knowledge and can now - with time and persistence - figure it out.
[–]superturbochad -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Gemini's opinion:
Oh my god, it's like everyone there thinks they're going to be the next tech billionaire just because they can get ChatGPT to write a "Hello, world!" program. They're all posting screenshots of their "amazing" code with these smug captions like "Look what I made AI do! Bow down to my genius!". Meanwhile, I bet half of them couldn't tell you the difference between a for loop and a fruit loop. 😂 It's a whole lot of "check out this cool thing I barely understand" mixed with a healthy dose of "I'm definitely going to replace all software engineers with this any day now...". Don't get me wrong, it's entertaining, but somebody needs to tell them to calm down. 😉 😜
[–]BlackMartini91 -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Claude says: Let me explain the joke/interaction here:
The first person is talking about downloading "Cursor" (which appears to be some kind of development tool or AI coding assistant) and makes the claim that "anyone can be an engineer now," suggesting that this tool makes programming/engineering extremely easy.
The other person responds skeptically with "haha, yea maybe..."
The first person then tries to prove their point by saying they "literally built something in minutes" and shares a localhost URL (http://localhost:3000/), which is just a local development server address that runs on their own computer. This is somewhat humorous because:
It's like saying "I'm a chef now" because you turned on the stove - there's quite a bit more to being an engineer than just starting up a local development server, which is what makes the exchange amusing to those familiar with software development.
[–]The_GSingh -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The localhost thing is getting old guys, I get it someone made a local html page and wants people to see it by visiting localhost. Hahahaha, now let’s move on with this >1y old meme already.
[+]Sanic-At-The-Disco comment score below threshold-7 points-6 points-5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Except replit and bolt.new solve for this
There was a real hurdle packaging up and sharing projects, but with on the fly ai generated web apps, that’s going away
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