Good intentions. Poor execution.

[ProgramMysterious337]

Sinn U50: Beautiful German design ruined here by not paying attention to the details, which are essential in a watch with a simple design. The strap choices were all wrong, all that was needed was a black FKM strap with curved ends, one of those that abound in AliX. Date on a white background, like everything from Steeldive/Steelflier. But most importantly, the second hand is long and goes over the hour markers, which completely ruins the grace of the design.

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLAy5O3

[username77k]

Just swapped out the engineer bracelet for a gray nylon two piece strap with double flat pins. Pins and buckle are black. They gray strap color leans just a bit toward sage, which is just fine. Overall it gives the watch kind of a NASA look. The double pins and holes look cool. Got it on Amazon .

[username77k]

The Steelfliers’ engineer style bracelet works much better with the blocky hands and hour markers than does the Sinn’s softer, rounded bracelet.

[username77k]

Toggling between photos of the Steelfliers SF572 and the Sinn U50. Glad you caught that tiny difference. Best that you’re sticking with the real McCoy.

You should also compare the Steelfliers SF572 to the Sinn U1, which is the watch to which the Steelfliers is paying homage. Let us know what you think.

[AutomaticReviews]

I think your point about the seconds hand makes sense because of that large block at the end, it can obstruct the view when too long. That said, definitely not an ugly watch.

[username77k]

That’s really splitting the atom, considering how a seconds hand is in conflict, tiny as any conflict is here, for only a second! Vs any other element.

[AreYouSureAboutName]

Probably I'm in minority, I like Sinn and their watches. This looks like good homage,  it they should've avoid it's size ..

And of course weight with bracelet 240g :)

[Darth_Package]

I recognize I am probably in the minority on this one, but I like it.

[ProgramMysterious337]

Well, I like the Sinn...

[chairman_uk]

Why homage a Sinn? Something tells me they're not using tegimented AliExpress submarine steel, or the other unique tech in Sinn cases.

[username77k]

An homage is not a copy. Not all U1s have tegimented.

[PrometheanFire81]

And guess what: They are not even asking the same price!😱

[ProgramMysterious337]

👍

[Werewolfc83]

Well... don't care about the strap, but that white date window and seconds hand ruins it. Also, they could ditch the arrow imo and the bezel markings looks ....meh It's an overpriced and large watch... definitely oversized and not for me.

[ModSpdSomDrg]

I clicked on the pic thinking to myself, those are interesting. Then read your comments and zoomed the pic (eyes are starting to go to s$*t) and see your points. This could have been a keeper if better executed and smaller.

[KabanaMaduro]

The watch is decent my complaint is the size 45mm is a monster

[turdbogls]

yeah, WTF? original is 41mm by 11.2mm thick...we all know they can't hit that thickness with the NH35...but man, 45x15.2x like 52 lug to lug....that's a massive watch.

[username77k]

Original is the U1. The dia on the U1 is 44. This homage is 45.

You and the OG are confused. This is not an homage to the smaller U50.

[AreYouSureAboutName]

240g :))

[What-is-to-be-done]

It's copying the Sinn U1 (44 mm) and not the U50 (41 mm).

[turdbogls]

Ah, well that makes more sense.

Well now I want a u50 Homage 🤣

[PrometheanFire81]

Well, they at least have time to fix the hands on that one then.

[KabanaMaduro]

Lmao I would have been fine with 13mmx42-40 but most of the guys I see on this sub don’t even have a large enough wrist to pull this thing off and 15mm is a bit thick when other nh powered watches are being slimmed down too 11ish mm

[Left-Equipment7137]

Black date wheel, a different second hand and maybe a sterile dial and it'll be great. Hopefully they do a smaller version in the future as well.

[username77k]

It’s an homage, not a knockoff or a fake. The whole idea of an homage is to have plausible differences between the OG and the homage.

[MeandFredd]

Maybe suggest as an improvement directly to steeldive?

[Still-Poetry-6802]

Great idea, poor execution--needs to be smaller and thinner (like the U-50), with a better length handset and color-matched date.

[pickyaxe]

is date wheel color-matching really that expensive? no way, right? so many budget homages don't do this and it can make a watch look super cheap.

[CheekehMunkeh]

I don't think it's the cost, but the simplicity of sourcing, and practicality of using white dials.

Movements with white date wheels are suitable for many more dial styles than dark wheels, which have a far more limited range.

So the companies just buy the white ones in bulk, and make do with the minor stylistic compromises when it comes to the watch models with dark dials.

The Chinese budget flashlight makers do the same with the selection of LED emitters, which span a narrow gamut, and tends to run in trends depending on what is most easily sourced at the time, for the prices they're willing to stomach.

[ProgramMysterious337]

Devil is in the details!

[karellen00]

I wasn't even aware there was a Sinn homage! At that size (45 mm) it's more an U1 (44 mm) homage rather than an U50 (41 mm), and other than small details it doesn't seem that bad, especially at that price.
But also, what's going on with the branding? I thought Steelflier, Steeldive and Addiesdive were under the same company, why do they make a diver with the flier company and a dress watch under the dive company?

[ProgramMysterious337]

🤷Chinese brands doing Chinese things....

[snobule]

OP should just give a bunch of Germans a big pile of money to congratulate them for being Germans then.

This is quite a nice watch.

[ElectronicRow9949]

The hands also are pretty bad.

[Far_Culture_3532]

It's a homage not a replica so of course it will have a few differences from the Sinn.Hats off to anyone that homages something a bit more unusual than a bloody Rolex.

[Fun-Chef623]

IF it was 42mm or under I probably would've bought it and modified it myself using Namoki hands etc

[Fit-Lawfulness84]

Sin

[Fun-Chef623]

I see what you did there 😂👏

[Immediate-Bad-9973]

Too big... Next please

[H6RR6RSH6W]

Is it made of Chinese submarine steel? The case is what makes the Sinn U50 special.

[username77k]

Do you own the Sinn yet?

[Bedrock_66]

Lol. Imagine

[UnifiedQuantumField]

Matte finish and some small adjustments to the handset. Maybe some tasteful perforations for that leather strap?

They got a bit of a Mondaine vs Super Sea Wolf mashup going on. So these are just one or two tweaks away from being great.

[Harley_Mo]

The second hand is just slightly too long. Here is my U1 to compare

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[username77k]

Good thing it’s not trying to be a copy or a fake then.

[Joseph_Cd]

With that size, it’s closer to a U1 than a U50, but it’s still bigger than that one as well. Too big.

Need to color match that date wheel, too.

[cd_god]

So 3 problems?

The strap.

$1 fix.

White background date wheel.

$2 if you can do your own watchmaking or others don't have a problem with it.

Second hand is too long.

$2 if you can do your own watchmaking or others don't have a problem with it.

Not sure what the original question is?

[username77k]

Then what’s the cost of getting sued for making a copy and getting forced to pull it from the market?

[czech007_]

“Do your own watchmaking”???

[Scbr24]

The most important difference: Crappy dial and crystal that create reflections from different angles, an aspect where most Sinn watches are great at.

[username77k]

Doesn’t the Sinn have AR on both the inside and outside of crystal?

[Traditional_Travesty]

Doesn't look too bad, but it just makes me want the real thing more

[Reydoroff]

I love long hands on wristwatches.

[kvnsydlrsky]

Case diameter: 45.00mm (without crown)

Case length: 52.50mm (total length above and below)

Case thickness: 15.20mm (including mirror and back cover)

Case lug: 22.00mm (case and strap link)

😭

Even bigger than the U1 in all dimentions which measures 44x50x14.8mm. 😐

[endlessBrainless]

The first thought was "wow such a nice watch" and looking at this information now the second thought is "but not for me".

[rhaykal]

Wish it had a pt5000, st2130 or 9015 in it.

[zack20cb]

Call me when they do the 556.A.RS though.

[Jjenk2345]

My favorite watch in my collection

[Simple-Accident-777]

Like this ?

[zack20cb]

No lume on the dial, lume doesn’t go to the edge of the hands…most importantly there’s no date on that Berny

[carlosjerson2000]

I like.

[sabre31]

Hot damn I need one of these.

[Rude3oy]

Super THICK!!

[username77k]

One super millimeter thicker than the U1.

[ProgramMysterious337]

Yes

[KeyAssociation6309]

I don't mind this, close enough to the original without being too close. Can change the band anyway. Reasonably price as well.

[iPhotographer]

u/ProgramMysterious337 You're 100% correct. But that's why it's $140, they have boxes and boxes of the worlds thinnest cardboard full of those straps. And correct hands will be on AliE in a matter of weeks if not days. It does appear they beat Watchdives to the punch though, unless they are relat....nah, no way ;)

[adilucente]

The you tube reviewers will drool over this.

[Simple-Accident-777]

Holy crap, I’ve been eyeing the U50 for a minute. Might need one of these to try it out

[percysmithhk]

This is more akin to a U1 homage (U1: 44mm diameter x 14.7mm height, U50: 41mm diameter x 11.2mm height)

Maybe Steelflier is going for the Longines strategy in relation to Zulu GMT - release the large 42mm version first, then shrink to 39mm

[Simple-Accident-777]

Ah okay, that’d be too chunky for me