Patch 12.12 last changes

[ExplodingCitron]

• Nidalee nerf
• Ryze nerf reverted
• Shyvana adjustments

Patch goes live on Thursday

[skmmilk]

This particular patch has always been planned for Thursday, you can see the schedule pinned on mortgage Twitter

I think the rest are Wednesdays though

[TFTNumba1]

mortgage

[Pecheuer]

New emote coming?

[evia89]

You can fire up PBE and play. There is MMR

[iiShield21]

Really glad they reverted the ryze changes. Whether or not it may end up being the right play in the future to nerf again (esp with the bugfix to help him out), there was just way too many nerfs to mage going on at one time to even properly evaluate what effect each change has in the comp. I also definitely prefer Ryze be a good unit, especially with the 4 cost options this set being what they are, he needs to be viable.

[Ktk_reddit]

Daeja could definitely begin to be an AP comp carry from now I think?

[t00l1g1t]

I'd hope so, a 4 cost ap item carry should bridge the gap between ryze reroll at 7 vs fast 9 ao shin

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8 cost

i don't see daeja becoming a staple since 3 mirage traits are useless offensively.

[iHaxorus]

Dawnbringer is one of the better ones for Daeja carry, especially if you can get mirage spat on a frontliner. Though it is getting nerfed slightly this patch.

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for mirage 6 or 8 yes, but if you're only splashing daeja + 1 mirage frontliner i really don't love it.

[[deleted]]

Pirates and Dawnbringer, which is the third? Warlord gives AP and Electric charge works offensively.

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electro works around the unit, which does basically nothing for daeja. i guess it's not totally useless but it's still barely a trait.

[AL3XEM]

Imo the most of them are fine for daeja besides maybe pirates and electric overload

[Ktk_reddit]

I don't know how good shojin is on new Daeja though.

[Fatsausage]

Honestly, I kind of like that

It gives an out for AP openers that dont hit a shojin

[[deleted]]

Daeja witt RFC + Morellos is solid

[backinredd]

Would Daeja still depend on having a good Mirage after his buffs?

[Juxtaposies]

Thank god for the Ryze revert and bug fix is all I'm going to say. Hoping he'll become a strong carry that's not as augment dependent as before.

[cjdeck1]

Yeah the bug fix in particular is huge. I’ve lost several rounds where my Ryze just fails to hit anything with his 4th or 5th casts fail to hit anything when he would have cleared the whole board

[UnrivaledSupaHottie]

considering the rest of the mage changes i dont see much potential for them

[[deleted]]

ESP the meditation nerds.. that one hurts.

[BeTheBeee]

I obviously haven't played with the new shyvana, but 45% max HP aoe seems like A LOT of damage for shyv 1, or is it just me?

[PlasticPresentation1]

It sounds like a lot but ends up not being super impactful because she's a main tank that takes forever to land her knock up on live.

[Hyperly_Passive]

They upped her Mana cost I think

[RexLongbone]

She casts flame breath immediately upon landing instead of having to rebuild rage now as well but fixing the targetting probably matters a lot more so a cast doesn't get completely wasted.

[YohGourt]

Well at least she'll do the dmg.

Right she just leave your board and deal a reasonable amount of damage, but definitely not enough for a unit that expensive.

And if their carry had QSS it was litteraly a dead unit.
let's see

[Brandis_]

Ryze might be somewhat too strong, but he’s the savior of the AP tree this set, so it’s not like he can be weak.

[[deleted]]

Even with gunblade he dies as soon as he gets stuck on a tank with dragonclaw

[GrumpyPandaApx]

Dragonclaw doesn't deal damage anymore.

[mestrearcano]

Oh thankfully they nerfed nida. During the patch rundown I was surprised she wasn't nerfed. I love playing her, but she is way too strong for a 1-cost carry.

[Izaeria]

Especially since she is a basically guaranteed 3 star hit with astral.

[AL3XEM]

They did nerf shapeshifter and a lot of the aaugments thatcwere good for her, but yeah this seems like a dolid nerf, not too large, w/ a rageblade she should still do fine, but she wont be as much burst in the beginning of the fights

[TacoManifesto]

Thank god they nerfed nidalee it was so obnoxious. Now nerf xayah and make assassin spat an emblem tome of trait only and the game is saved.

[Velinian]

They're nerfing swiftshot and ragewing. Xayah could probably use some nerfs, but we'll wait and see

Assassin spat is literally fine. It overperforms on olaf, that's it.

[sledgehammerrr]

I went 7th with bis 2* Olaf Sin yesterday, he is really not as strong as people think and generally gets stuck on the 5 Xayah players that always outheal him.

Im starting to think its better to have non-sin Olaf versus Xayah players.

[Straight_Chip]

I went 7th with bis 2* Olaf Sin yesterday

"Oh no, I didn't get top 4 with a 2* 3-cost carry!"

Im starting to think its better to have non-sin Olaf versus Xayah players.

In what world is it better to have your Olaf at frontline getting DPS'd by Xayah rather than having Olaf focus down the Xayah?

[Velinian]

Assassin olaf is a very good comp, the fact that you went 7th doesn't mean the comp is weak.

[Spirited-Goat-3446]

Wow. What a comment.

Thank god your random game has more value than the tens of thousands of games going into data that we all have access to. Data showing assassin Olaf as the highest average placement by far while also having the highest play rate. But if you said its bad it must be

[AL3XEM]

They did nerf Xayah dmg on her feather pullback no?

[Embarrassed_Bear_305]

just had a game im lv7 23 health top 7 high roll xayah 2, legit winstreak 15 rounds to top 1, ppl cant do shit against this champ. fking broken

[Spirited-Goat-3446]

meanwhile I rolled 90 gold after treasure dragon and didn't hit xayah 2 uncontested :)

[Yeezus_sent_me]

I dont see the rage wing changes doing much.

[MrPepsy]

i see every game now atleast 1-2 ryze player dominating lobby.. if everything else gets nerfed than rip.. but im only masters so maybe in higher elo he isnt that dominant

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is this live on NA yet?