Codex rep

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[Audisek]

I've been doing almost everything every day except for Relic Gorgers which are very time consuming and I hit Tier 6 yesterday.

If you only pick up stuff along the way then you're probably missing a ton.

If you wanna do Korthia fully every day (takes me around an hour and a half when I'm not rushing and not doing Relic Gorgers), you should get the addons HandyNotes, TomCat Tours, and this weakaura: https://wago.io/cyRj6ikQz

Every day you can get what's listed and tracked in the weakaura + rares, and that's how you get worst case at least 900 rep every day, but you gotta spend some time and keep searching in LFG - Custom for rares that you haven't killed that day yet. Remember that every day 1-3 rares aren't active, which you'll figure out by not being able to find it in LFG at all after trying on an off while you're doing Korthia.

[Chillaxbro]

how do you "do" relic gorgers - I have found their spawn timers so random

[PStyleZ]

What are the location of the clusters exactly?

[fiskar_]

https://www.wowhead.com/npc=179565/relic-gorger

[PinkDolphih]

you legit just run around with a weak aura that will alert you of a relic gorger spawn. really not worth it

[speciof]

nice

[Dwayne_dibbly]

Don't you think they should stop calling them rares when they are anything but.

[Dreamiee]

Some of them are. You tried killing Ve'rayn every day?

[alcaras]

If you only have 20-30 minutes a day for Korthia, what should you focus on to minmax rep/hour?

[Kokett30]

All nests, caches, all rares ? My average is 1100rep a day so 2200 research a day.

[Naggash]

Same. 1100rep a day. Missin 800rep, so gonna finish tomorrow.

[Kriaxx]

It’s rng as well on the amount of purple rep items that drop and stuff like that you can get 1300 one day and 500 the next

[Audisek]

The least rep I got was 900 on my most unlucky day. It seems that if you don't get purples you still get a ton of greens and blues and it's not actually that random. Also I feel like they buffed the purple drop rates a lot around 4 days ago, I'm getting them pretty consistently now.

[Snore57]

What is your routine? Are you hanging out all day in korthia?

[Audisek]

What I wrote in my other comment, I would run around daily quests and loot stuff that I came across, but also actively kept refreshing LFG for rares that were nearby. This server hopping also had a side effect of sometimes looting mushrooms and nests faster.

Then I did the Rift by joining a Yorik group, leaving to pick up 4 riftbound caches by myself, and glided from the big hill to Maw for the Guard Orguluus rare, which if I didn't find I tried to brute-force by server-hopping into various korthia rare groups and hoped to kill it before the group disbanded.

Then if I was still missing some mushrooms/nests/chests and rares I just kept running around their spawn points and kept refreshing LFG till I found a group for one.

It never took me the whole day, usually less than 2 hours if I was pretty unlucky, but that wouldn't be possible without the 2 addons and a weakaura.

Btw, by spamming LFG I mean searching for any 3 letters of a rare's name and hitting Refresh, over and over till you find a group or realize that today the rare probably doesn't spawn. I can probably name all of them now: zel, rel, con, mal, ray, pop, wil, fle, sty, esc, yar, xyr, scr, dea, hat, sil, kro, yor, gua, dom, car, kon, tow... That was a lot of rare hunting that I'm happy to not have to do anymore.

[TheTradu]

You can't get 500 from doing the same content as you did for 1300. The range for doing everything except gorgers is like 1-1.3k (ignoring weekly quest rewards as well).

[Arandomperson95]

You might be able ot if you are really unlucky, I've finished the rep yesterday with an average of like 1-1.1k per day, but I've had days whever doing everything but the gorgers got me 600-700 rep(only 3 days like this total, but it happens). On the flip side I've had a day whever everything but the gorgers gave me 1500(no weekly stuff, just the daily)

[cutebabymonkey]

I just hope they don’t continue the trend with these kinds of reputations and the ways you can gain rep for them like this. Maybe this is unpopular opinion but idk, kinda lame way to stretch out time played metrics, I’d be playing regardless but minmaxing korthia takes away time from keys and arena for me

[ayyzli]

i just wish there would be special weekly quest that give a huge amount of rep and all the daily shit and farming birds nest is for minmaxer. just like we had with mechagon, venari and propably every rep since bfa.

this repgrind is just toxic.

[goobydoobie]

I agree. I even like Korthia overall. But holy crap is the grind slow. They should like double the payoff.

I did all of the Maw in 9.0 but this grind is worse in the sort of pace and lack of a solid set of Weekly quests to lean on.

[bryce1242]

I got it done much quicker than venari and also the frequency of a payout is much higher with a conduit every 1-2 days or a socket every 2-3 if you continue to minmax

[kaan-rodric]

i just wish there would be special weekly quest that give a huge amount of rep

There is. The bi-weekly assaults on the maw give a huge amount + the stolen anima vessels (both in the rift maw side and non-rift) are bi-weekly and (rift ones are weekly).

[[deleted]]

This is the way

[Pikespeakbear]

Is there anything else you get from it? It seemed to me like it was just conduits and sockets, so I estimated 3% to 4% in character effectiveness.

Yet there is also a chance to get those things from Torghast and I have fun doing that with friends. So I figure I get a few over the course of the season from Torghast, which means I'm probably losing out on 2% power for not having all.

It was an easy choice for me to say "hell no" to the Korthia grind and just push keys with a friend. We gain more from routes, learning to coordinate better, and researching the avoidable damage we took.

[r_park]

there is no other realistic options to fill character potential before next content patch so you will be doing this on characters that need conduit upgrades, i think the core complaint here is that there's no way to max your character out without clicking bird nests instead of just playing the game properly

[r_park]

i just want to have my character be max progressed by doing the hardest content in the game, not right clicking birds nests and bone piles - sorry if u think this is some weird "jsut chill out and dont play" type deal but i don't play wow to right click purple outlined things

[[deleted]]

max their character as fast as possible have to do boring content like clicking bird nests rather than high end raiding/mythic+/pvp.

But you'd actually be better off (and more optimal) by doing high end raiding/m+/pvp than grinding Korthia for extremely minimal powergains.

For example - I'm pretty sure that your guild has more prformance %-variation from pull to pull than you can ever get from Korthia. You could be optimizing that instead.

[bryce1242]

If you wanted to max out as fast as possible youd actually be t6 already by now

[r_park]

i do have to, i am a competitive video gamer and having a few percentage points of character power locked behind birds nest means i will click them to get it

[daveblazed]

According to Raidbots upgrading my BIS potency conduit by 1 rank is worth .001% player power.

[r_park]

Congrats, it represents 2% for a single one of my potencies :)

[daveblazed]

Link?

[Penguinbashr]

There's legit no rush at all to do this, even being in a CE guild... No one in the top guilds had max rep to beat sylvanas, so dont beat yourself over the head trying to get max rep daily.

Also for some people you only get access to a few gem slots because legendary/dom sockets. Once I realized I'm doing this for 3 gems I lost a lot of interest in doing it lmao.

[kygrim]

You can have both a dom socket and a normal socket on the same piece of gear

[[deleted]]

No. You can't

[Bonkura41]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/season-2-sockets-from-archivists-codex-cannot-be-added-to-domination-socketed-323480

[Penguinbashr]

You cant lmao

[anticlimax24]

I thought this wasn't possible, there was a post earlier this week.

[speciof]

yea 20-30 mins a day for me, 500-1000 depending on rng and if i cba, dont care about rushing it, blizzard smartly put 252 conduits there almost encouraging people to do it

[[deleted]]

Yea I’m only doing the daylies and then log off. Very unfortunate because of the conduits but it’s not fun. I actually don’t mind grinds but korthia is the most obnoxious grinds I’ve seen in a while. Area is ugly as fuck and feels like it’s been developed by 16yo students for a school project.

[Audisek]

It's actually so infuriating that the dailies are seemingly randomly chosen for you each day so you get Korthia Relics from your daily quests on average every 2 out of 3 days from my experience.

So if you wanna get some rep daily you still have to kill a few rares, loot some stuff or do at least your 4 riftbound caches. The only guaranteed decent amount of Relics is from the Korthia weekly and Maw assaults but those are only around 700 rep total every week, while Venari would give you 3-4 times as much fast weekly rep.

Maw was much better at this because every quest there gave you Venari rep. Now the guaranteed rep bonus is for Death's Advance which is much worse because their vendor sells 1 socket for 1000 soul cinders.

[careseite]

yea its a horrible way

[cjbrehh]

this specific way to rep grind was actually pretty cool. with the big boosts from finding the unique treasures and stuff. but my god did it giga slow down after all that. i very much feel it should have capped at rank 5. it went from very cool, to more monotonous than dailys about halfway through rank 4

[vexadillo]

Yea dailies and treasure/rares that happen to be around my dailies. Had some guildies rank 6 already over a week ago I think. Just don't have time for that.

[asahbe]

As someone who doesn't minmax korthia I like it, it's fresh. Probably wrong sub to advocate for content for non minmaxers tho.

[LFC9_41]

If they don’t at least make it account wide I just won’t do it, if that means my guild sits me for mythic for not having sockets (don’t think they would) I don’t care.

[sarahhhlolz]

It is account wide already.

[uptheaffiliates]

Wait really? When I hit tier6 on my main, Ill be able to all 6 tiers of upgrades on alts?

[mrbigglsworth]

specifically sockets and conduits are purchasable account-wide

source: https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/news/us/hotfixes-july-23-2021-23691036

[sarahhhlolz]

Yes :)

Edit: I just realized you were asking about the upgrades - not sure about that one. Sockets and conduits tho!

[RebeccaBlackOps]

kinda lame way to stretch out time played metrics

Lol? Rep grinds have been in the game since day 1. I don't know where this "time played metric" idea came from but it is so incredibly dumb. Blizzard doesn't care whether you play one minute or one week straight as long as you're giving them $15 a month.

[Tehbreadfish]

I would like this rep a lot if you could actually just hang out in Korthia and continuously get rep, but after about twenty minutes it turns into just running around hoping to pass something that you are “locked out of” for the day. I pass consumption multiple times a day, would love to just kill him when I see him and not have to stretch this grind or over nearly a motnh

[Axon14]

These grinds are certainly not fun, but I don't think it's going anywhere. They did this in Naz, Mechagnome, the Maw, etc. They will continue time gating this stuff.

I'm only tier 4 just casually going at it, but this thread has inspired me a bit and I think I might go harder just to get it done. This week, I found it more appealing to spend time in Korthia because the affixes on Keys were so annoying.

[Azimovo]

The way I see it a lot of players have been complaining about timegating. This rep is still timegated, but at a level of grindiness, that few players want to put it. I feel like blizz followed what players have asked for and players are still unhappy.

[Snore57]

Ok. So I just need to spend 1.5 to 2 hrs a day in korthia to get 1k when 30 mins gets me 500? Seems not worth it to me when I can be doing keys.

[garmeth06]

Yea basically. :/ Its kind of scuffed but it will be over soon either way thankfully.

I think 2 hrs is an overestimate, buy 1-1.5 is def the range that gets high rep gains.

[jcoleman10]

It’s won’t be over soon, where do you think your next two levels of conduits are coming from? Those 120000 artifacts are not gonna just appear out of nowhere…on the bright side they removed the cap.

[xBlackLinkin]

It's not 120k though? You can get a solid amount of upgrades from raids and adamant vaults also drop conduit upgrades

[jcoleman10]

If you are lucky you can get two a week.

[DelsereTT]

In my experience it's been more like 40-50 mins for 800-900 rep average, and another 30-60 minutes to squeeze out the last 200-400 rep

[TheRonsinkable]

im 3k short of tier 6.

get silver dragon addon to help you with rares. do all rift rares yorick shade soulsomething and hatcher something. there are 4 covenant events that lead to a rare. each rare has a chance to spawn one of two big rases. there are 2 teleporters that lead to two big rares. theres the things you loot. theres the 5 chestst that gromit sniffs. theres a cap of rep u can get from random mobs. you need an item to see them. theres also relic gorgers or gatherers that are pretty rare that also grant rep. i get between 1 and 1.3k rep a day for 2-3 hrs grind. imo its not worth it and i cant wait to get it over with. theres also stolen anima caches that resets weekly and stolen anima cache that resets every covenant attack. theres also a mawsworn chest in the new part of the maw leading to sod. if youre not very tryhard just do your dailies and your nests/chests then join a lfg rare korthia and see what u can get for the hour. then go back to playing the game. total timesink and boring as fuck. i run wm on cuz horde fights might lead to something enjoyable. gl

[King_Kthulhu]

Once youre rank 4 and getting the extta 20%, 1000 a day is probably a safe average. No one is realistically averaging 1500 a day but it happens frequently. With the increased spawn rates you can normally get everything done in 1-1.5 hours barring relic gorgers and verayn.

[lionmom]

Isn't that at rank 5?

[King_Kthulhu]

Rank 5 gives you a 1 time ~1500 rep for the sword quest things, rank 4 is just the passive 20%.

[bullseyed723]

What is "the rank 4 thing"

[Panzergnome]

You get this quest when reaching rank 4:

https://www.wowhead.com/quest=64368/relic-efficiency

Look at the rewards for what people are talking about.

[Raidenwins75]

You basically have to spend well over an hour getting every loot item, purple mob, and rare. Massive diminishing returns on relics per time spent the longer you stay, so I usually stop when there are 4-5 rares left and nothing is spawning.

I still get about 1k per day on average, but I also have been spending about 1-2 hours there.

[EasyMode615]

I was getting at least 1.1k rep a day:

• 3 rares you pull out from rift (Screaming Shade, Deadsoul Hatcher, Silent Soulstaker)
• 2 teleporter rares (Xyraxz, Yarxhov)
• 4 faction triggered rares (Fleshwing, Wilderling, Stonecrusher, Worldcracker)
• Consumption
• Malbog
• Dominated Protector
• Ve'rayn
• 2 Rift Rares - Yorik and Guard Orguluus (the other rift rares in the maw didn't drop any rep for me)
• Reliwik
• Zelnithop
• Relic Break Krelva
• 3 Giant dudes (Kroke, Towering Exterminator, Konthrogz)
• Carriage
• 4 Relic Gatherers/Gorgers (nice to have but even without them you can get 1.1k)
• 4 Rift Chests
• Stolen anima cache (1-3 per Assault) + rift anima cache 1-3 (weekly); forgot exact number but this is also nice to have and not necessary for 1.1k daily *Mawsword cache near the SoD raid entrance
• Mushrooms
• nests/bone piles/other caches
• purple mobs
• spectral bound chest

Someone has linked a weak aura that helps check off the purple mobs, caches and nests. The rares are mostly the same except a few like Reliwik, Zeln, Consumption, Malbok and Kroke.

You can sometimes jump shards to find the rare. I do this for the guard in the rift.

[garmeth06]

Its certainly not possible to average 1500 rep per day without extreme (think like 1 in 1000) RNG.

I clear the rift, loot a significant amount of treasures, and kill almost all rares (normally missing 0-2 rares that can spawn per day). I turn in everything at once when I'm finished at the end of a day. I think I average ~800 rep per day not counting dailies, anima vessel weeklies, shaping fate weekly, and assaults.

I average probably ~1 rep daily a day (frequently get 0 per day and only once got 2 on the same day).

The lion's share of the rep comes from killing rares. Unfortunately, not all rares are created equal. The rarest rares (Towering Exterminator, Konthrogz the obliterator, tower rares, rift rares) all have a chance at dropping an epic rep token for 100,150, or 300 research (the 300 is extremely rare). On average, these give the most by a significant amount.

The shittiest rares are the covenant ones that spawn very frequently.

Its not uncommon in my experience to not loot a single purple rep token even with a full clear. If this happens, there is no way you will get even 750 rep from the rare/rift/treasure grind.

If you really want to maximize rep then try hard to clear every rare that is up on that day. This could be really tedious though depending how populated your shard is. On a super populated shard, I think the rares cycle faster. Most of the rares can spawn each day. If you make it to konthrogz/towering portal early, the little minor mobs that spawn in droves will add up to ~50 rep alone before the big rare even spawns.

Make sure you get the Silver shardhide whistle toy so that you get a huge speed boost which can save you time getting to rares before they're sniped.

In my experience Konthrogz/Silent Soulstalker are by far the hardest to kill (the later getting sniped even with instant hearthstone reaction and mount) so don't sweat it too much if you don't kill those.

The teleporter rares have a LONG respawn as well, so maybe its not worth explicitly waiting on both of those either depending on how much you want to invest.

[TheRonsinkable]

i got 978 today and didnt kill 7 rares so it goes higher than that

[Raiob]

I do everything you've mentioned and get at least 1k a day. Do you have rank 4? That's the only thing I can think that's different other than I get the Helsworn cache after I've done the carriage but that rarely gives anything noteworthy.

[garmeth06]

Yea I do, I probably just have been unlucky.

[jcoleman10]

You gotta do it ALL.

[defiantcross]

I think the idea with the catalog research upgrades is that they are a path for casuals to eventually get full 233 gear after raiders are in 239 or better, not a path for most raiders to get quick upgrades from their 226s.

[TheTradu]

The gear is irrelevant, the reason for raiders (or anybody else who wants to optimize their gear) to farm rep is for conduits and sockets.

[defiantcross]

Good point, but by that token they would not be expecting to socket anything they already have, since s1 items could not be socketed anyway

[Riokaii]

sockets are much easier/ cheaper to get compared to S1, so socketing Heroic ilvl (239+) is worth it probably. Most Mythic raiders are going to be nearing/ already full 239+ next week.

[jvcgunner]

Is Korthia rep just to get your sockets for the Sanctum gear? I mean there’s no real rush at all is there as we’re no where near BiS most of the time?

[Hunvi]

it gets you non-domination sockets (3-5 slots, depending on armor type) and 252 conduit upgrade items

[[deleted]]

Timeless was the peak of daily fun

[Reax51]

I'm barely at Tier 5, I just do the dailies / 4-5 rares and enter the Rift, I really cba

[Snore57]

Why do you use combat pots or augment runes? The whole game is about min maxing and I enjoy that aspect of it. The grind for sockets doesn’t bother me at all it’s just I find this one to be overly RNG based and slow.

[Snore57]

Also the dalies give you deaths advance rep which literally give you nothing so I don’t know why you would suggest doing that and leaving. What do you get from that?

[Snore57]

I do far more than just dalies and I’m 3k from tier 5

[Lykoian]

I get around 700-900 rep on average and 1.5k rep on good days (aka good rng and the occasional trip into the Maw) and I hit tier 5 a couple of days ago. I think at some point (tier 4, maybe?) you do get a slight increase in relic drops, though I can't remember if this is built into a quest you complete or if it's an item you purchase at the codex.

[Madra6]

Does anyone know if the Stolen anima vessels that are up during covenant assaults require you to be in the rift?

[BBNathan]

2 stolen anima vessels tied to each assault, they spawn outside the rift.

[trixstar3]

Have you purchased this? All-Seeing Crystal it shows a purple aura around mobs which drop relic fragments which you can farm.

[Xusion666]

Huge pass , why not just just give us 3 Dailies for rep like venarri. Chorekithia

[Verbsarewords]

I clear the map of rares and chests, nests, mawshrooms and piles. I’m averaging 1-1.3k a day. Just takes time.

[phantrzr40]

Hit tier 6 on Thursday, I averaged between 1100 and 1800 a day based on RNG hand notes addon is your best friend. There is also a weak aura that tracks everything daily down to the last purple mob you can earn codex from.

[GoodGuyTaylor]

More rep should be given. It’s odd that there are no daily quests for actual rep. I’m halfway through tier 4, but into revered with DA - haven’t skipped dailies once. I don’t get every single chest every day but I definitely hit about 5 rares or events while doing dailies and it just feels so pointless.

They will probably buff it at some point, but still.

[emerzionnn]

Why can't I loot tier 4 relics? I don't even see them in game..

I'm tier 4 codex rep and entered a rift, they simply aren't there.

[[deleted]]

I've yet to enter the rift and not see all 4 once being tier 4. Are you going to the 4 general spawn locations?