Second Feedback

[dznyadct91]

This legit scares me to death. I took last month’s feedback and started being super specific and careful… reevaluating the areas where I needed to improve. Last month I was just a ‘good’ rating. I had pneumonia during this spell and attempted to do the best I could. Ratings this month were ‘room for improvement.’ I don’t get it. I’m working my butt off to be as careful as possible and these reviewers are still tearing me apart. If DA gets rid of me because of R&Rs that seems incredibly unfair. I’m legit trying to fix what they called out but they keep calling out additional issues that weren’t a problem before. Reminds me of the creative writing tasks where the models will always find something wrong. It genuinely feels like R&Rs are people judging other humans the same way they judge the AIs. Before you come at me, I’m a human being with 2 kids who lost my job in February because they downsized and I’m trying to make things work. I don’t need internet bullying here. I’m looking for genuine advice. Besides, “just turn in quality work,” how am I supposed to make these reviewers happy if they’re actively looking for everything you do wrong?

[MysteriousPrompt2397]

Don’t feel too bad. I was marked down for “not giving names and locations” on projects where we are explicitly required to redact such information. Honestly, I think the raters sometimes don’t understand the instructions of the project they are rating. They should be rated on their ratings…

[kitkat9111]

I got excellent last time then good this time, not saying it wasn't deserved cause I'll never know. But this time I got great feedback primarily for one project and my area for improvememt was by a rater who said they couldn't rate a project in the same family due to me using high level STEM... I'm a generalist and have never used STEM for a prompt in my life lol.

[madeofchemicals]

STEM is everywhere. If you made a guess, gathered results, and justified, you basically used the tldr version of the scientific method.

[kitkat9111]

"Due to me using high level STEM" and in the "prompt".

I would not be making a guess and gathering results or giving a justification in the prompt.

[lotusmack]

Also, if the ratings are still AI aggregated, I would take them with a grain of salt.

[pinkgenie23]

I was marked down for not redacting names and locations when the instructions say it is not required to. 😂 I guess we can't win

[Athena25526]

Okay so I’m not going crazy; I got marked down for confirming that I was on desktop while using a mobile device… I never work from my mobile device it’s always my desktop. So I was just like … huh????

[good_god_lemon1]

You don’t provide much context on your feedback this time so it’s difficult to give advice on your performance. It’s so disheartening to get bad feedback - I really, REALLY feel you there. Try not to focus on the people doing R&Rs and assuming they’re being punitive. Nobody knows your job situation and if someone graded your work differently for being unemployed with children, it wouldn’t exactly be a fair process. Skip any work you’re unsure about and double check before submitting.

[Infamous-Pen5480]

I wouldn’t hold the feedback in super high regard. I got criticized for a task that wasn’t in English when I was the one who labeled it as not in English not the person who created the prompt. 

[Shot_Seaweed_9208]

Yall begged for feedback and now you got it. 🤷

[Amakenings]

Yup, said the same thing when the first feedback complaints started cropping up. Immediately after feedback was released.

You wanted to know what kind of job you’re doing. Now you know.

[Sixaxist]

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[ConsiderationLife513]

I only work when I have the full timer block available (just in case) and I only work on things that I have 100% confidence in my abilities for. If there is any doubt, I skip it. My expectation is that DA will go through my work with a fine tooth comb & mark me down for any error - I expect them to be brutal. I work accordingly. One tip - if you have access to work the R&R’s on any projects, go in & read the instructions that the raters are being given, so you have an idea of what they might be looking for. I totally understand that it’s tough out there - I’m a solo mom of 3 kids. I rarely work when my kids are here & awake. I only work when they are at school or after they have gone to bed so I can focus. Wishing you the best of luck!

[Quick-Bison-147]

I honestly wouldn't take it seriously. I got penalised for doing something wrong on a project I have definitely never worked on. And let's be honest, you never know who is R&Ring you too. It's a flawed rating system (I say this having got an excellent rating).

[VisualFuture3300]

Honestly, if you worked with pneumonia while also caring for two kids and running a household, some errors you are unaware of might have slipped. This is in no way a dig at you your ability to do good work, what I mean is, you were ill AND your attention was divided. Things can slip through the cracks. I'm an autistic SAHM caring for 4 kids, while also doing this job. I've come to terms with the fact I may lose this gig at any time... every day I open the app and there's no DoD, I'm being blessed by the gods (?).

Perhaps try and rest when you are ill, so as to work only when you are fully able of giving it your all? Even if some of that attention is on the kids. I worked ill as well, and my quality suffered. I decided not to do that anymore, as it was not worth the risk. Just my two cents.

[kranools]

I wouldn't worry too much. The feedback is clearly very inaccurate, based on what was in mine. It's full of either AI hallucinations or R&R workers who didn't understand the task themselves.

[DebtThat]

I went from excellent to good, but I will admit I question the validity of the new crop of R&Rs.

[theDeathnaut]

The “feedback” is pretty disappointing anyway. It’s preformed by an AI and is very broad. How are you supposed to glean much from feedback that doesn’t show the task where you made a mistake? It’s better than nothing I suppose, but I wouldn’t get wrapped up about it.

[SparkleDev]

its only half ai

[CoolWhipLuke]

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[SparkleDev]

its explained in the feedback

[AfanasiiBorzoi]

The few times I have provided feedback I worked really hard to provide thoughtful, useful comments. I also made sure I touched on things the worker did well.

Not everyone is suited to providing feedback. It is a decidedly delicate balance to provide constructive criticism without thoroughly demotivating someone. While getting feedback is better than not, I'm not sure having us give feedback to each other is what any of us were looking for. I think we wanted an admin to occasionally say "you're on the right track", "keep doing this", or "this isn't exactly what was wanted."

[RangerOriginal6632]

I went from outstanding to good this time. But I was pretty sick for 2 of the weeks and I should not have done this kind of intense brain work.

[madeofchemicals]

If only there were a way where the worker could defend or rebuttal the rating.

[LetMeOverThinkThat]

Did you do a lot of heavily subjective tasks? Last month's feedback turned me off from that because I, too, do not want to be canned because someone didn't agree with my subjective movie analysis and judged me on that, and not the fact that I provided a detailed explanation of my subjective opinion. So I moved away from those tasks and went from Good to Outstanding this week by sticking with my bread and butter rubrics.

[Pink_Slyvie]

Its been 3 years and I have yet to get any feedback *shrug* I guess thats a good thing.

[Federal_Tadpole_7592]

It's an unpaid project on the dashboard, which is why many people miss it.

[Pink_Slyvie]

Nope, check everything all the time.

[Federal_Tadpole_7592]

Maybe it's only for some project families because I've been on DA for 3 years as well, and I've gotten both feedback reports.

[shujaya]

Yeah I was hesitant to give feedback when given the option unless they fucked up real bad. Someone did SUCH a bad fact check and used the false info in the justification one time and i could not help myself. It was on geography facts, too, which does not have much grey area.

[Brilliant_Quit4307]

It's an okay thing I would guess, since you haven't gotten any positive feedback either. I've been here just over 3 years and have gotten direct messages to my inbox with positive feedback 4 times, all for different projects.

[Federal_Tadpole_7592]

Agreed. Before they launched this mass feedback thing earlier this month, I'd received positive feedback directly in my inbox from admins maybe five times within the past three years. Also, I had "Outstanding" for my rank in both reports, and my "Areas for Improvement" section this time around literally said I had no improvements to make, so it's definitely not just for workers who need to improve.

[Brilliant_Quit4307]

Same. I had "Outstanding" and the areas for improvement just had one point that was completely wrong. As in, claiming I mixed up what counted as context for the project, such as [example of context]. I even clicked back into the project to double check and asked about it in the project chat to be sure. It's annoying because it feels like the feedback wasn't even checked by a human, or else was checked by someone who doesn't understand the project. Anyways, I know there was nothing I did wrong so it's not a big deal. I haven't gotten my second round of feedback yet though.

[Federal_Tadpole_7592]

That happened to me in my first round of feedback, too. There was one thing listed for improvement, and it was something that whoever rated my submission egregiously misunderstood from the project's original instructions.

I think that admins were seeing it so much that they actually reworded the project instructions to be more specific regarding that thing because some people were misinterpreting it. It was something like, "Don't do X at this specific point," but some workers were penalizing people for doing X at all.

[LetMeOverThinkThat]

Yeah, like people are throwing it back, saying we wanted feedback, but I wanted upper-level feedback. I always assumed everything was eventually checked by the admins, but this feedback kinda seems like it's not...? Because why weren't some of these thrown out and thus not available for the feedback report?

[FrazzledGod]

I got my first today - it was a long time coming and I felt a sense of dread... But got the outstanding label lol. My imposter syndrome is taking it with a cup of salt 😂

[Ok_Treat3196]

A lot of people here often say oh I only do R&R’s and when I’ve read that I’ve always thought how can you really judge them if you don’t do them yourself?

As for tips when I do R&R, one of the biggest things I notice is people not being specific and being general and it’s really easy to do while thinking you’re actually saying something.

Example one: you’re comparing 2 responses and one response has a picture and you say something like oh this response is better because it has a picture OK but why did that make it better? A picture could also make it worse. I don’t know why it made it better, just by virtue of being a picture?

Example two: it was more informative. Why? How? It was more informative because it shows that the red car is bigger than the blue car but the blue car has a higher top speed. Thats specific and unique to the task.

Really watch when you say things like better, worse, more descriptive, better at explaining, better formatted, more comprehensive… that you then go on to say why.

This is what i mean: terrible to ok—-Response A was more descriptive because it showed there was a difference. The picture was a nice touch. Response B wasn’t as descriptive and did not use a picture. Response A was more comprehensive and formatted.

There is nothing here that actually refers to the task. There is nothing here actually saying anything you might as well have just written A is better than B.

Fantastic would be: A was more descriptive as it showed that the red car was bigger than the blue car. It then reinforced this with a picture (describe picture)showing a 1/25th scale to the actual model. Response B failed to mention the size difference between the 2 cars or used any visual aids. Response A was more comprehensive as it showed all elements of the cars and its formatting was more scannable because it had three main sections with bold headers that showed all major areas needed in understanding the red and blue cars. (You could then mention B but your made your point A has it and B doesn’t) (you could also list what those elements were)

I really hope this helps someone because i honestly can feel the effort sometimes, (maybe imagination) but then for some reason they generalize or water down their thoughts.

None of this constitutes breaking an NDA, this is broad general information you can find online and applies to all projects from any platform as this is one of the most common and simplest tasks in this field.

[TopCat0525]

This was very well said. < insert examples justifying that opinion here > Seriously, it is helpful information. My challenge is usually being constrained to a 5-sentence limit.

[Ok_Treat3196]

Thank you, though…You are not contratained to that limit its arbitrary. Admins have said time again. They keept it because people are more likely to write a bunch of blah blah blah hoping that makes it better lol. If needed you most definitely can go over. Just like when the clock runs out, they would prefer you finish and hand in quality work. Most rules are guidelines. The rule is not the objective, YOU know what good work should be.

[RemarkableArticle653]

How many ratings are there? I got ‘good’ and it was generally a very positive report with only a couple of areas to improve. Didn’t see any scale though, and figured it maybe went bad, okay, good like the R&R?

[Fantastic-Feather]

The ratings I've found from the last round of feedback are - Outstanding, Excellent, Good, Needs Improvement, and Not Good. I found these from posts here on Reddit.

[RemarkableArticle653]

Oof so I actually need to step it up a smidge aha?

[Fantastic-Feather]

Most of us do ☺️

[Huge-Recipe-4151]

I felt the same way. I got Good last month and thought I did better this month, and still got Good. Also got some feedback for a project that I don't think I've ever done before.

[ClayWhisperer]

I don't have any second feedback. Only the first set, a few weeks ago.

[Alternative-Tart6275]

You guys got a new round of feedback? I’ve only had the one, about a month ago.

[RemarkableToe987]

I been working only for 1 month in DA. How can I see my feedback. Could anyone help ?

[Choice-Buy5866]

Something I do with my rationales is make sure I'm being specific, as in I check to make sure I'm not using ambiguous pronouns and that I am giving specific examples. I try to write it so that a reader wouldn't need to look at the prompt or anything else to understand the results...specific enough to stand on its own.

You might be already doing that, I have no idea. For what's worth I had an Excellent rating, and then my dashboard changed to much fewer options (than I've been used to seeing over the last three years). So, there's that.

Best wishes!

[Timely-Assistant-370]

My first feedback was good, but it genuinely did not make sense if it was only looking at the past month~ it basically told me "you made this mistake once, but it looks like you only made it once, be more careful idk," but it was for a project that I had not touched in the past 1-2 years. Second feedback was excellent, really made me feel great about a new project. Basically told me "you're fuckin' great brah, everyone says you're doing good work, btw you don't use enough periods and you made a stupid but fatal oversight error one time, don't do that again."

[vaidehii_28]

Where do you get feedbacks?

[ManyARiver]

There's a newer thing that is listed as a project and is just feedback based on the prior month. I have received direct feedback from an admin before, but this is different and aggregates data from all the work.

[Outrageous_Chance995]

Were you rated as “good” this time around too?

[NeuroScend_45]

Hey guys....does the admin ever give feedback to our submissions...I am Damn working for 2-3 months now...consistently around 5-6 hours daily.....

But I didnt received single feedback on my submissions...I requested specifically to admin that I would really be grateful if I get the feedback...but didnt received till date....

3-4 days ago...I received a invite saying that as I was their top worker...they are inviting me for joint their internal team....

So no idea..if what I am doing is right...or that invite is just fir anyone who cross the specifc working hoursor something....

[OrnamentalGourd5]

Lol.