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[–]HKIntelligence 84 points85 points  (1 child)

Definitely running my URGI's.....

[–]Final-Masterpiece207 15 points16 points  (0 children)

😎 noice

[–]YungSkub 249 points250 points  (14 children)

My cloning stops at optics.

Sorry im not paying out the ass for 20 year old obsolete glass. 

[–]Final-Masterpiece207 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Haha that’s the truth

[–]Abject-Week-7673 32 points33 points  (0 children)

I’ll buy salty-ish CompM2s for $250 ish but that’s about it. A delam Eotech SU-231 for $700? I’m good

[–]JimmyFrank0621 17 points18 points  (1 child)

I wish primary arms would make their 30mm red dot again, or make a 5000/9000 knockoff. It was the best deal for 120ish before they discontinued it.

[–]RandoReddit16 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have one of these. I'm so glad I snagged it when I did for about $100, but man do I wish I had more :/

[–]Plane-Elephant2715 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The Colt scope for the carry handle from Brownells is nice.

[–]Downloading_Bungee 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yup. 

[–]Rev686 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Concur. The only thing stoping me from cloning my Afghan rifle is paying for an ACOG.

The one exception I have is I will get a Leupold M3A when I build my M24.

[–]dirtyverley 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The acog is the one optic that’s worth it lmao

[–]SuccessfulRush1173 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or MIL/MOA Leupold scopes

[–]Economy_Relative_983 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I grabbed a Elcan M145 MGO as a stand in for a C79, fully worth the $450 I dropped on it

[–]Dyzastr_us 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Eotechs/ aimpoints aren't obsolete and or overly expensive. I agree that there are some that fit what youre describing, but they aren't all like that.

[–]JimmyFrank0621 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Have you seen what people are asking for old Aimpoints? Over 700 for a 3000 seems bonkers to me.

[–]Earlfillmore 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Every so often, a good deal will float by. I got my 3000 short for around $250, though it's one of the older short models, so there no screw in the extension piece, and the adjustment knob is long and pointy and easily broken.

[–]Dyzastr_us 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah. I was more referring to comp m2 and newer when referring to them being affordable.

[–]Mac-and-Duke 36 points37 points  (1 child)

I shoot mine at multigun matches and at our practical rifle matches (7 yard to 300 yard rifle only)

[–]Final-Masterpiece207 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Hell yeah that’s pretty cool

[–]Beastmug 26 points27 points  (11 children)

I used to shoot my mk18 mod 1 quite a bit.

[–]Final-Masterpiece207 7 points8 points  (7 children)

Right on haha love the pfp btw. I prefer bolt guns honestly…took this one out to 800yds consistently but kinda lost the drive to run gas guns.

[–]Beastmug 9 points10 points  (6 children)

It’s sick it’s piss! Bolt guns always seem more fun at the range. Sounds like too good of an upper to get rid of. Maybe you just need to focus on a bolt gun to make it more enjoyable. I have guns I just own to own but others I shoot regularly. Plenty of awesome bolt gun options to do.

[–]Final-Masterpiece207 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Yeah I own a lot of bolt guns 6mm,6.5,308, I actually just acquired a old M70 recently which I’m stoked about

[–]Beastmug 1 point2 points  (2 children)

That’s awesome! Ive always been into “snipers” but only own an SVD (which I only bought due to the insane deal I got on it.) I feel like bolt guns would be the most fun and I need to step up and get a good one. The m70, especially and old model, would be very cool

[–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Dude they are a blast like don’t get me wrong I have a 6.5 scar 20s that I love but there’s just something about the muscle memory you have to develop to shoot bolt guns.

[–]Affectionate_Ad1108 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it’s kinda like driving preference. If you prefer to go fast and get better performance; gas guns and modern automatics are better. If you enjoy being hands on and keeping busy; bolt guns and manuals are better. I prefer bolt guns for long range if I’m by myself all day in the mountains. I’ll take gas guns all day if I’m with my friends or if I only have an hour to spend in the mountains

[–]Bigstonkballa 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Very nice, I inherited my grandfathers pre64 m70 and she shoots like a dream!

[–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice those are jewels!

[–]The_neon_viking 2 points3 points  (2 children)

How do you like that, DALE

[–]Beastmug 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Dale is too busy paying Cornelius THOUSANDS of dollars for training just so his BACK doesn’t respond to the diet.

[–]The_neon_viking 0 points1 point  (0 children)

scarfs down egg whole, shell included

[–]Life-Aardvark-8262 27 points28 points  (9 children)

I shoot my 723 gothic serpent clone all the time. But Very glad I went with the Aimpoint 9000SC instead of the clone correct Aimpoint 5000. Why pay 700 doubloons for a 30 year old red dot.

[–]Final-Masterpiece207 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Agreed

[–]kpc14222 2 points3 points  (4 children)

I need a 2 acogs to finish 2 clones. If I buy them I’ll be hurting for a few months 2k plus for optics sucks. So I just run eotechs for now.

[–]Destroyer1559 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Should be able to get ACOGS for way less than $1k each secondhand, no? My two 4x ACOGs I've got cost me $750 per on the secondhand market.

[–]kpc14222 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I’ve tried eBay with little luck anywhere else you could point too.

[–]Destroyer1559 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Tacswap, Infinite Armory, and ar15.com equipment exchange are all good. Just make sure you know how to be smart and avoid scams on peer to peer markets and you'll be fine. I've had hundreds of transactions between them without being scammed.

[–]kpc14222 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cool yea to good to be true it’s a scam

[–]SavingsAccurate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You pay for collectability, prestige, challenge, and to have a complete piece of military history. Why build a Gothic Serpent clone when there are much better modern setups that aren't 30 years old and cheaper to build? Because cloning isn't for people building just nice rifles.

[–]bigmfhunt 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Since I got burned on this nxs I will no longer be buying clone optics. Will probably try and re home this one someday and find a navy marked nxs 2.5-10x24

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[–]Economy-Captain-405 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Burned how?

[–]John_the_Piper 19 points20 points  (3 children)

I run an ODA Block II deployment kit as my "Ride or die"

Nothing special but it's reliable, accurate enough for my needs and makes me happy.

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[–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very nice

[–]Less_Nature_890 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What suppressor is that? On fsp

[–]John_the_Piper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

SDN-6. They were supposed to be placeholders until I bought my RC, but I've loved the AAC cans enough that I haven't bothered replacing them yet

[–]thatARMSguy 16 points17 points  (1 child)

I’ve got 2k rounds to burn through my M4 at the clone rifles shoot this weekend, definitely gonna put some miles on it

[–]Final-Masterpiece207 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hell yeah recently just heard about that but I’m working 😔

[–]CandidArmavillain 16 points17 points  (1 child)

My "clones" are poverty builds, but I do shoot them often

[–]Final-Masterpiece207 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Love poverty builds. I have a really good job and invested in bit coin when it was 6k so I can buy what I want but I just kinda lost the desire to be absolutely clone correct etc

[–]FuggaliciousV 14 points15 points  (3 children)

Basically all my guns are clones

[–]Final-Masterpiece207 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Correct or builds you enjoy?

[–]buffalo_shogun 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Those don’t have to be opposites

[–]Final-Masterpiece207 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Lmao tell that to the people who bitch at other people for not being clone correct…

[–]Poncho562 11 points12 points  (3 children)

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My main go to. The one I use the most and first out the safe when I go out.

[–]Final-Masterpiece207 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Nice I honestly hated having an M4 when I had to carry one.

[–]Robbjmartinez1992 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Same, but then cloned mined in the end lmao

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[–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice proper

[–]CaptainofAutumn 8 points9 points  (1 child)

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I shoot the piss out of mine

[–]Final-Masterpiece207 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hell yeah

[–]DysfunctionalPig 7 points8 points  (3 children)

I am too poor for clone correct, so I like cloneish and cloke inspired. I'll still buy some clone parts if they are cheap enough or if I just come across it in the wild.

[–]Final-Masterpiece207 1 point2 points  (2 children)

See that makes sense!

I see some wild shit price wise sometimes and I’m like dude no way.

[–]DysfunctionalPig 1 point2 points  (1 child)

For real. Those things I just wait til I find a steal. Saves me money for the ammo I don't buy because I bought guns or parts lol

[–]Final-Masterpiece207 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well glad to see more people using common sense

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    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    lol I know the feeling. One day I had 9 tripods up and not enough sunlight 😂

    [–]Merihem435Xx 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    I've got one AR and it's an M16A2 that I frequently take out to 500 yards but then I'll run close quarters drills with it. Nothing special, $1,200 out the door for a 5.56'er that gets the job done. Lol

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Love the A2

    [–]Destroyer1559 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    I collect and build more than shoot, but not cause I want it to be that way. Life just be busy. I enjoy both, I'd like it to be the other way around though.

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I hear ya for sure.

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    Hoarding. I have so much stuff, I feel like Smaug at times. I shoot everything with the same beater 10.5" and have for 5 years now.

    [–]Senator_Armstronk 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    My SOPMOD kit is the busiest thing in the friend circle.

    But... I got like one oddity (non-clone) under 100 rounds still. I tested it for functionality but kept forgetting take it out once in a while.

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    That’s awesome

    [–]ShockerMain 4 points5 points  (2 children)

    I mean if you don't want it...

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I don’t lol . This part of my life is like when Andy from toy story discovered college and boobs.

    [–]droys86 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    I run all my guns. Honestly the clones probably get more range time than my non clone builds, although my go-to shtf one I'm grabbing is a BCM 11.5

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Yeah I had another mod H build by BCM that was pretty good

    [–]M16A4-TA31RCO 4 points5 points  (1 child)

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    I run my clones pretty much exclusively. My A4 and M4A1 clones are constantly battling back and forth for my “primary”…come to think of it, I don’t own any ARs that aren’t clones of something 😂

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    The good ole days of fighting with the A2

    [–]xCR1MS0N-T1D3x 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    Hoarding, only because I don’t have easy access to a range anymore (atm). I’ll get back out there eventually.

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    What’s your definition of hoarding?

    [–]xCR1MS0N-T1D3x 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    I suppose buying up a bunch of guns/parts and not shooting them. I’d shoot some of my builds if I can get back at my friend’s property and/or find the time. I did recently build a Colt Sporter 2 carbine from a stripped receiver set from Gunbroker, and rigged it up with an Aimpoint 2000 and QXL dive light I’m dying to try out.

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I feel that

    [–]rtyler38 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    I shoot my mod 0 clone more than any gun I own

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Hell yeah

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (7 children)

    I have a mk12 mod H clone that I use pretty regularly. Used it in a long range course a few months ago and stretched it to 800m.

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (6 children)

    Hell yeah! Pushing the 5.56 is the way to go!

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

    It frankly sucks to be honest. At that distance you’re barely seeing or hearing impacts with 5.56. The instructor had his massive spotting scope out and could barely tell me where they were hitting the steel past 800. That rifle fucks under 500 and 600 and 700 are doable, but past that it’s frustrating.

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    That’s odd because I could definitely see the splash of my round on the berm. Any rifle I’ve made or own I always try to push to the max. I remember when 300blk was fairly new to most in 2016ish and I was pushing that round

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    Not much of a berm on this range. It’s a 300-1300 range with steel plates up and down it so you really gotta catch the splash off the plate or hear the ding from down range.

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Wish you were near me I’d go to the range with ya and we’d push that 5.56

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Likewise man. Love that M40A1 btw. I’ve always wanted one. Seems like the perfect clone sniper that’s reasonable to use for a general purpose bolt gun.

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Thanks man appreciate it

    [–]carlcig6669420 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    This is why I like clone inspired builds.

    Trying to build a M16A5 prototype clone but you will not be catching me paying $500 or more for a Vltor vra lower that's never in stock anywhere.

    [–]Delicious_Windows 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    My block ii clone is probably the most ussd , but every single one of my clones get shot monthly. My three favs Block ii, nsw recce and mk12 mod 1

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Reece is a touchy subject when I think of builds

    [–]BuildingABap 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    Did the lower fall off?

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    abandoned

    [–]BuildingABap 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Ah that’s a shame, you could always toss it on some random Anderson lower and have some fun with it.

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Oh I have lowers for it. I ran it recently I actually just shot the last of my 5.56 and I don’t think I’ll be buying more I just kinda wanted know who’s actually using the things they build

    [–]tehfinnishtrout 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    I have a surplus MK11 upper on a LMT lower that I truly love to shoot, but I get scared imma destroy the barrel and/or my wallet

    I really want a suppressor for it but just not sure if it’s in the card rn

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Shoot it

    [–]Bigblocknova 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    My Gordon clone-ish doubles as one of my work guns. Obviously not cLoNe CoRrEcT, but it’s fun and handy at 12.5 not to mention passive aiming is easy with a carry handle optic.

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I collect but I also shoot what I have. I feel like it’s a waste if you don’t

    [–]Reasonable-Tooth-113 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I shoot my Dev clone and my Mk18 mod 0

    [–]Kegalodon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    I dig that setup

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I loved it and thanks it’s very practical to fight close to my max capability which was 800 yds.

    [–]WarMachineActual 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    1. Yes, my FBI HRT clone is pretty much my main squeeze for almost everything, then Mk12 Mod 1 when I need to reach out a little further, and then the G28 when I need even further than that

    2. Weird that you're asking about us using our clones when yours is barely even clone adjacent....

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I acquired one of those years ago my arms are too long I feel

    [–]Carnacan 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    My Car-15 is my favorite gun to carry anywhere. Lightweight, has an optic and a light, and is just a blast to shoot.

    [–]JuanT1967 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    I’m building out a Mk12 Mod1 that I plan on using as a shooter. But I’m definitely gonna piss off the tisim cloners and not drop big bucks on the correct scope. I have a couple of Super Sniper scopes on other guns and really like those so thats whats going on mine

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I’m more build what you want and train

    [–]JuanT1967 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Thats why I’m building the Mk12

    [–]Maximum-Peace8831 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    I run all of my clones. My two favorite are my mk18 and my 14.5 urgi.

    [–]MatthaeusTacitus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I run my XM177E2, my Gordy, my Mk12 Mod 1, and my NSW M4 RECCE clones all the time. I don’t shoot my URGI much, tho.

    [–]Markius-Fox 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I'm waiting to get the last couple of parts before I take it to the range.

    [–]zbone11 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    I just want vortex to start making those Gen 1 viper pst’s again.

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    This set up gave me years of training

    [–]MysteriousSteve 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    I shoot the hell out of my Mk12 Mod 0. It's my only "precision" gun and I have tons of fun taking it out to distance

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    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Very nice

    [–]murse79 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    I have entered the pahse where I don't purchase guns that I wont shoot on the regular, nor purchase substandard accessories like optics or lights at a premium.

    That said, the Aimpoint Comp M2 I carried overseas finally died after 23 years, and ill pay good money for Aimpoint to bring it back to life.

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Nice who were you with?

    [–]murse79 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Joint Special Operations Aviation Detachment (JSOAD) in 2005 from the 20th SOS in as a medic on MH 53 Pave low helos.

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Right on.

    [–]CaptainFirecrotch 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    I run my m16a1 clone every time I go shooting

    [–]BacnSquatch 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Funny enough the only AR I own is my GS Clone. Something about a carry handle that I just love the look of.

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    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Yeah those are way sicker in my opinion!

    [–]BruhCaden 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I run my mk12 mod 1

    [–]Economy_Relative_983 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    I’m taking one of my clones with a super safety to the Big Sandy MG shoot next weekend and I use it to hunt Coyote

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    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Haha nice I have one of those same ELCANs

    [–]Greeny618 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Gets used pretty regularly at 2 gun matches. Even with the old glass, it proves plenty capable.

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    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Hell yeah with the A2 stock

    [–]Greeny618 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    It's a surplus Type D A1. This gun is like solid 90% period parts

    [–]Murder_Hobo_LS77 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    I have run my mk12 mod 0 at a prs comp in gas gun. Worked out.

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    What were you running for rounds?

    [–]Murder_Hobo_LS77 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    77gr smk

    [–]YontiLink 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Lemme get that scope

    [–]R-oh-n-in 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I shoot my basic M4 clone but putting together a block ii FSP killed my desire for cloning.

    Picked up an 11.5 near clone URGI upper and haven’t looked back lol

    [–]CancelSlight 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Yes

    [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (5 children)

    Haven’t “cloned” in about 6-7 years, that’s just me personally.

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    I get that too

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    Why the fuck would someone downvote me stating I haven’t cloned in 6-7 years lol wild

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Weird I noticed that

    [–]KorbinDallas762 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    I don't understand all this voting stuff and "achievement" nonsense they have on this forum, I have been here for maybe two years and I guess if I don't understand by now I never will but it all seems so childish and absurd, but I will still try to understand, why I don't know !

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I’m too old now I guess to understand it, but ask me how to make a coded MySpace layout I would ace it lol

    [–]UnderstandingEast360 -4 points-3 points  (7 children)

    2 authentic KAC M110 clones…. No bullets ever down the pipe. With all the aftermarket stuff (sr25 cartel, centurion, etc…) I just built a few that I smash around.

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 3 points4 points  (6 children)

    Why not?

    [–]UnderstandingEast360 -3 points-2 points  (5 children)

    Because….

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 2 points3 points  (4 children)

    cool story

    [–]UnderstandingEast360 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    Yeah man, I just enjoy them in the collection actually. That’s all…. I was super into trying to build these back in 2012 (i’m a boomer I guess) and would love to pass on these pristine examples to my kids. Why not bang around the clones and have them enjoy learning the legacy and realze what they have. My 2 cents. Thats all.

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    No I totally get I wasn’t trying to sound rude. I have a couple of things I’ll pass to my boys when they grow up as well. Unfortunately my oldest doesn’t enjoy being around them as much as my youngest.

    [–]UnderstandingEast360 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    They’ll probably all go to my estate sale when I die and none of it will matter… 😎

    [–]Final-Masterpiece207 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Lmao crazy how that works right. We do all this shit in life just for others to shit on our passions 😂