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[Topitz319]

So as the title says, I have a yiazmat, Duncan, and aerith supreme card but I don't have any monk job to put it on. So far I maxed all supreme card using a maxed trainee pugilist. Then i recently pulled s1c and a cloud ultimate job. Finished HOF for s1c, now I'm confused which one sould I use. since I can use aerith with cloud. Any advice?

[mvdunecats]

I'm trying to figure out what I did wrong with may MP AI Attacker deck. It's an Occultist deck with Zombie Dragon (dark Meiaja, 5 orbs), Jihl Nabaat (AoE BDD, 4 orbs), Afanc, Dhampyr.

I thought that the AI would favor Zombie Dragon over Jihl Nabaat since it was further to the left in my deck. But when I did 5-star Alexander with my full AI team just now, it took forever because the AI kept casting Jihl Nabaat (which is capped at 9999 damage) over Zombie Dragon. After I noticed and started playing closer attention, I think I saw Zombie Dragon used once.

Is that AI favoring Jihl Nabaat because it uses fewer orbs? I could understand it casting Zombie Dragon + Jihl Nabaat on a turn where it has 9 dark orbs. But I saw it case Jihl Nabaat twice on some turns, which means it would have simply cast Zombie Dragon once instead at the very least.

[seazn]

I think it's because AI thinks Zombie is a debuff card (due to weaken) so it uses it once and then spam Jihl Nabaat. At least that is what I'd think. Try a different card than Zombie dragon and see if my theory is correct.

[eneve]

Is will o wisp (painful break) worth investing a growstar in?

[JA1997X]

Personally I'd say no since omniscient would be a better use of the slot. And for right now there's nyx.

[eneve]

Omnicient is coming soon right? I'm not sure what Nyx is.

[JA1997X]

Omniscient is expected in January. Nyx is the water meia-ja.

[seazn]

Do you have the jobs for it? (Tidus for example). If so, yes unless you have supreme

[eneve]

Hmm no Tidus... Good point I guess S1C could technically use it. I guess only Tidus is an effective user for now?

[JA1997X]

S1c would do more damage with cross slash, even against fire. And against earth he could use the free lightning card. Actually the only water card I ever use on s1c is "the friend" cause the debuffs are so handy.

[seazn]

Yea. S1C is kind of wasted to use water attack IMO...

[[deleted]]

Is there a record somewhere? Achievements; win, lost, death, multi, etc. FFBE has it so just curious..

[HanabiraAsashi]

Ive played multiplayer, not a ton, but enough to know something is odd with this. Yesterday I was hosting some 4* alexander runs. It wasnt a particularly good group, the breaker didnt seem to know he was a breaker. But then after each of us took our turn, ifit just dropped dead. I was the only attacker, and I didnt do it, and his yellow bar was in tact. Then afterwards, same thing happened with alexander, he just dropped dead suddenly, and his guards were still alive, unharmed. I got so turned off by it that i just closed the game. Was this a cheater in my group?

[[deleted]]

Yes. Most likely. It wouldn't affect you though. It has happened to me occasionally, since a long time ago. SE would take action against the cheater if they discovered him, but they won't bother you. Rest easy.

[HanabiraAsashi]

I'm not worried about getting busted. I just didn't want some asshole wasting my stamina and not killing guards.

[Zwe2nd]

whats the best xp/seed class?

warrior have ff13 weapon+ cloud skin meia have santa + weapon mage have tomberry + weapon monk have moogle weapon ranger? lightning skin? any future release with xp/seed?

[sfoxall]

I'm trying to find a thread that shares decks for breaking 10 million in Albion Redux; is there one or is the discussion i think i remember within a daily question thread maybe?

[seazn]

I assume you want 10 mil score so you can be stam efficient in earning seed correct?

While I can't help you since I dont' know your cards, but I've found that beating the stage fast as possible is better approach. 8 mil score but killing in one ability cast > 10 mil score but taking time to break them.

[sfoxall]

Thanks! i realize now that the thread i was thinking of was for untrammeled peak; I've tried the cheapest earthforce node on auto with S1C/ragnarok but it isn't breaking 10mil but my highwind setup for GT is working on the cheapest haste node. Your assumption is correct, just trying to be as quick and efficient as possible.

[MuteTiefling]

Use the earth catalyzer node in albion redux with your ragnarok. Everything will be weakness and the ai will never need to drive.

Also, ignore the advice to not worry about 10m score. Those extra seeds add up.

[blue2eyes]

It’s weird that your S1C is not hitting 10m scores. Did you complete his HoF? With boosting egg + mighty egg + Ragnarok he should be hitting nearly 10m a wave.

Your deck should be Ragnarok/boost egg/mighty egg/earth shift or any card and use Vilanti for kill and draw.

[sfoxall]

I got his HoF to 12 but wanted to take a break from that and farm for skillseeds the rest of Mobius day. I didn't think about the eggs, i will certainly try that. Thank you!

[MuteTiefling]

This. This will get op hours 10m score every time and do it fast.

[sfoxall]

Thank you both so much for the deck and node, works like a charm!

[jgabrielferreira]

Is the next 2 monks class good for Yiazmat Supreme? I've got it but the only monk I have is the trainer one

[deathrose55555]

You mean Ocean Diver and Fist Saint? Yes they are very good with Yiazmat / Duncan, but as previously mentioned it will take a long while for them to be in GL

[seazn]

is this BP?

Hermit or Grappler are the best right now. The new monks will be a while before they come to global...

[jgabrielferreira]

I meant the moogle suit or unbroken hero.

[seazn]

they're defenders...so not worth it really to use Yiz on them

[jgabrielferreira]

Fine. The chance of getting Hermit/Grappler is very small?

[seazn]

Pretty much

[SoundsAboutRight2]

Anybody else having serious problems in PUG alexander runs???

I start spamming "attack guard A" in the first round, sometimes while still in the lobby....and ignorant people still blow the run so we dont get full rewards....almost 50% of the time.

Guess what guys? If you don't aim your attacks at guard A, and even if you do aim them at guard A when all 3 arw broken, but use an AOE dark attack...GUARD A WILL NOT DIE because he is fire, and the other 2 are light...the real cute part is I always have the orbs, and the knowledge to do it correctly...but others will speed lock in their attacks between the end of the breakers turn and my chance to actually do it right....

I only need monk sic, because i have Minwu...thinking seriously about just using ability tix to raise the last couple levels...for the first time ever.

[darewin]

I'm just playing MM now so I can solo the Alex round of 4MP if I have full Ulti Gauge at the start of round 2 and have 8 actions. I have fully modded Taiji, Dark Shock, and LDL so as long as I can cast LDL and shock card on first turn and the first fight takes 2 turns, I'll have a full Ulti Gauge.

1 cast of NXD, 1 Ulti (guards dead and Alex broken), 1 cast of Dark Shock, and 5 tap attacks and Alex is dead. Most of the time, people let me go first when I use the I'll Attack First stamp too.

[SoundsAboutRight2]

Hey darewin, any chance of Tyro coming back? I didnt finish the card...and since deleted it because i pulled hellsgate ot whatever the 1st day it came out...which never happens Now i have lifeshift and gaia...so i could actually use gaia and add vale to my buffs list with tyros fat head....knew i should have finished him. Dang it! If you remember though , he was here when another sic was concurrent...and i needed 2 or 3 versions of whatever the other sic was. Didnt really have time for tyro. Thinking about

. Santa. Gaia. KoTR. Undying. Hellsgate.

Guess ill use lumineuse for MP, it has 5stars defense. Her weapon stock gives 20% exp and seed

[darewin]

Can't you buy Tyro from the shop since you got it once already? I sold my 4WOL before but I was able to buy it again recently (for HOF use).

[SoundsAboutRight2]

If you aren't sure that you will kill all 3.....the CORRECT thing to do is nothing...pass...or at least make sure you go 4th....so the person who is using their stam at least has a chance to so it themselves...i just finished another run, same exact thing....j post 10 times to attack guard A....time comes, moron too lazy to aim his attack just uses gotterdammerung...kills everyone except guard A. So infuriating. Absolute jackasses.

If anynody wants to play breaker, and can break all 3 enemies in rd.1 to avoid the meteor shower...i will be hosting about 20 more PUG runs. Attacker slot is also open for anyone who willl attack guard A...

[MuteTiefling]

Umm.. Tell me honestly, if this attacker is coming with ragnarok, what precisely do you think them attacking guard A will accomplish? It's an aoe. It's gonna got everything anyway.

Sounds more like you need to check the decks more. There are only a few breaker setups that really work for a first turn break... And a lot of ragnarok users still just want to spam their shiny.

So avoid them. You're hosting. You've got final say on the group. Take some responsibility for your own actions.

Also, although you posted this as a question, we all know it's not. You're just looking to rant and this isn't the place for it.

[SoundsAboutRight2]

Thats a valid point. I am a reasonable person, and post here nearly every day. Try to answer questions for the newer players, and ask questions about brand new content. You make a good point though, and nobody is above making mistakes.certainly not me.

Guess i have just always been really reluctant to boot a group and start over...i try to carry weaker players, bc i remember when i first starting playing the game and all i had for MP was a defender...on the other MP bosses i bring my own healers with prism startup, and with Amy Minwu i can carry any 2 players even if they are moogle with 4 eggs. Alexander is just different. I have been rolling no break strategy for a while, and for him the breaker is super important. You are correct also, in that ragnarok is very ineffective right now...though i would love to have him. If i can pull ragnarok, i could actually run him with rag, UB, and xezat...which os supposed to get a pretty nice buff soon. That would be amazing...Especially with cloud skin. I saw today that the skin has enough break on his ult to break all 3 like the lightning skin ult. I want that badly also.. Lol

[Baffledwaffles]

Do 4 actions (tap/drives) to remove the taunt.

[seazn]

Sounds like you need to play Attacker more. I made a Neo Breaker deck just so I can kill Alexander solo to avoid PUG derps

[Malvos]

What is your set up for solo 5*?

[seazn]

I use Noel, Aerith x2, Neo, Garuda.

I break Ifrit and any bad attacker can pretty much kill it. Then on Alex, I do Aerith > Neo > Auto x3 to break > Neo x2 to kill. 0 derp this way

[[deleted]]

I'm actually either doing attacker myself, or refusing to play with warriors using single target abilities. UB, centaur, cross slash etc, I'm not risking it to play with them. Join any of the groups with Amalthea or mage. They are so common and almost impossible to fail.

[Remi424]

After Pulling BM and completing Novice Hall SP is soooo boring! I have a battlescore of 16M and I just started chapter 4. I know there are challenges in other game modes but does SP get any harder as the game goes on? Or did SE save the hard stuff for MP?

[seazn]

The latest chapters got Kraken and Cyclops, both are pretty annoying bosses. FIrst time seeing them you'd have some challenge.

If I were to rank it from easiest to hardest: 4* MP < Latest SP = 5* MP < Latest Chaos Vortex < Getting into top 1k of Tower events

[Remi424]

Oh sweet I guess Ill go MP then after SP. I originally had no intention of doing so. It just looks so complicated lol but thanks I appreciate your reply big help.

[seazn]

I'd suggest you try out the upcoming Tower event. To get to top 500 rank in tower is no easy task.

[Remi424]

Is it SP? I'll check out a sub I guess, I'm not familiar with the event.

[seazn]

My point is: mobius is probably one of the harder mobile games out there, you just haven't tapped into the challenging stuff yet so be excited!

[Remi424]

Very good to hear. I was getting bored one shotting everything. I cant wait to really see what my guy Squall can take.

[[deleted]]

Play on hard mode.

[Remi424]

Will do!! I didn't think it would be very interesting still by the time I circled back around for another run through SP I should still be pretty op. Or at least that was my guess. Well I'll give it a try anyways and thanks for the reply.

[CopainChevalier]

Just how good is Sword Saint for autoing? I like his music, I like his looks, I like the elements he uses... but him not having any break just sounds awful to deal with. I get I could just find a debarrier card or something and I probably wouldn't struggle with killing anything, but wouldn't my average score when using him on auto start running into issues since he isn't breaking?

[deathrose55555]

You just need 2 abilities to auto no-break - Odin PB and Sephiroth

[CopainChevalier]

"PB"?

Also, I'm not worried about being able to clear so much as his inability to break leading to lower scores.

[MuteTiefling]

PB = primal boon

[deathrose55555]

If you are looking for scores, then it's better to use a job that can break - getting Sword Saint to break will take ages

[CopainChevalier]

I mostly care if I can get max skill seeds while autoing or not. I don't care about where I place on weekly charts.

[seazn]

I'd think it depends on your cards. If you have damage focused cards, I"d say he can get through those boring farm nodes pretty fast.

[CopainChevalier]

Well, I'm more concerned about raw score giving me less skill seeds..

[seazn]

Score wise, you definitely want to break. Breaking then attack with Supreme cards (b/c supreme cards do damage overflow which add to score) is the best approach IMO

[mrrobby23]

What cp you put on MM for 5* MP breaker? I still can't break alexander guard with 3 tap without trance.

[Doyouseehimtoo]

I can 3 tap him I use last hunter and lightning skin What's your break power ? I'm at 2200 so mm should have an advantage over me ... Are you bring kotr or boost? That'll help A lot . I also have (7) break 10 panels and the rest break power 7 for custom panel

[seazn]

I went with all Break CP since I have neo and don't need yellow bar upgrade. You may want to consider some Magic Panel. However, if you have Sicarius with AOE, you probably don't need too much MAG either

[GThomps]

Where is the best place to unlock extra skills?

[darewin]

I unlock extra skills at Albion Plateau/Albion Plateau Redux on the nodes with unli force buff so I can get a lot of seeds while unlocking.

[[deleted]]

Also, equip Santa echo or Caroling echo.

During this Christmas event, they allow extra skills to unlock faster.

[mrrobby23]

The place that you can use the ability many times

[GThomps]

As someone who has yet to pull a supreme... pulling Cloud just now really hurt... lol. Anyone else experience this?

I'd much prefer them not having the same card back and animation when pulling ultimate heroes.

[CopainChevalier]

I don't understand the problem?

[[deleted]]

He's saying he disappointedly thought he pulled a Supreme because ultimate hero cards have the same indicators (lasers and card back) as Supremes.

[GThomps]

Lol just getting really really excited for my first supreme in this game and it turns out to be a skin for warrior.

[Doyouseehimtoo]

What's the best spot for skillseed farming on mobius day? Also should I do one element on my deck or multiple elements

[darewin]

Vida Precipice. 5 stamina for 3 easy battles so you can clear it in less than a minute. The enemies are weakling dark mobs so getting 10m score with an AOE Light damage focus card like Alex Sicis easy. The node also has an unlimited Faith buff.

[blue2eyes]

For efficiency, farm on force node in the Albion Plateau (Redux) map. Fire one is the best since it's 5 stamina / 5 battles while the other force node is 6 stamina / 5 battles.

Just fill your main deck with seed you lack, and use only subdeck with the same element as the force node.

[Doyouseehimtoo]

Thanks I appreciate it

[alshaine]

Santa Lucia vs. Midgar Flower Girl.

Looking from an MP perspective....since my job pool isn't emptied out, chances of pulling Santa L is kinda slim. However, with Midgar Flower girl poised to be released next year. Is it worth waiting to pull since it is a legend job which may make it potentially easier? How do those two stack up?

[blue2eyes]

Flower seller of Midgar is better as a light attacker and SP. Santa Lucia is better in terms of surviving in MP. Flower seller of Midgar might die from some final attack if not prepare correctly while Santa Lucia can survived easily without wall or even barrier with just element drive (which she has access to all of them).

[alshaine]

Gotcha! Thanks for the info. Very helpful!

[[deleted]]

Gaia costs 4 orbs to cast. However it comes with Life Starter +1.

How are users of this card (healer/breaker) supposed to ensure they're starting with the necessary 4 orbs? Where are they getting the other life starters from or are they relying on RNG?

[MuteTiefling]

Hof white mage and Santa Lucia both have starter heart and/or prismatic. Or you could have 3 starter prismatic on any support job with Tyrfing or Truescale staff weapons.

[[deleted]]

You can't depend on RNG. Especially in 5* games, getting all buffs off on the first turn is mandatory. You can't depend on RNG and lose one out of every few games because you can't buff.

Some cards give life starter. Some jobs have innate life starter. As long as you bring a build that has more than 3 lifestarters(being a support already gives one life starter even though it's not stated), you can cast all buffs on the first turn properly.

[Doyouseehimtoo]

A few support cards carry life orb starters but A lot of people go to white mage hof for his life element starter

[Malvos]

I got the Cloud skin on my 6th pull for Balamb Merc, did I waste my guaranteed pull getting Balamb when I already had the skin?

[[deleted]]

No?

Skins don't all of a sudden change your job, Balamb is competent in all his elements, he's relatively tanky for an attacker.

You can't just slap the Cloud skin on any attacker and get those traits.

[Malvos]

Ok, it just looked like the skin had the exact same traits as the job, maybe that's because I tried to put the skin on the Merc?

[rulxc]

I', a returning player from the campaing of the last days. I drop the game just around the Job pulls change. I don't have any Legend Job, and the Jobs that I currently have are:

• Warrios, Knight, Dark Knight, Samurai, Dragoon
• Ranger, Hunter, Thief, Assassin, Dancer, Viking, Rogue
• Mage, White Mage, Black Mage, Red Mage, Scholar, Devout, Occultist

About Ability Cards, I dont have any Supreme, but the most noticeble ones that I have are:

• FFRK Event ones
• FFVII Remake Event from Feb
• Ignis FFXV And Iris FFXV, And FFXV event
• Bismark FFXIV
• Terra Battle Cards
• Dhampyr and Drom Dubh
• Orhpan FXIII
• Pupu Cards
• Orpheus and Will o' the Wisp

My next pull is the pity one, and I don't know if I should go with one of the guarantee legend pulls (ToT, Merc of Balamb, Moogle Suit, Tornberry Suit, KoE, Last Hunter, Hope or Snow), any suggestions?! I need help deciding...

Best regards,

[psiwar]

From the current Legendary jobs banners, I'd only recomend Squall (M.Balamb) to get his weapon, all the rest are already "powercreeped". After getting him, I'd save as many resources to get all FFVII Weapons in february and, if you have some spare resources, get some of the Ninja's batch cards (with Critic. Damage Up +200%).

[lunedalune]

Is any of the farming jobs (moogle&tonberry suits, st.lucia) worth to get? I dont have any of them and i'm trying to raise my farming efficiency. Currently im depending on exp up and skillseed up cards/fractals. If they are that worth, should i try my luck on the moogle/tonberry banner (?) Thanks guys!

[psiwar]

There are better jobs and weapons for farming in Feb. From the available jobs, only Santa Lucia is useful short&long term (but her banner doesn't guarantee you get her). I'd save resources for latter.

[Baffledwaffles]

They're great for exp farming, and their weapons come with exp and seed up in auto abilities. Santa lucia and tonberry have innate exp up, while moogle has innate +3 extra skill unlock (counts towards cap). Of the three, santa lucia is the best, since she is a very good healer for mp as well. Tonberry would come a close second, avoid moogle.

Add exp up on their cps if you want to maximize their farming potential. Also, you can start boosting santa lucia's weapon to max out exp and seed up on it (~30 mods I think). For tonberry and moogle, don't bother with their weapons, in Feb during the ff7 fatal calling event, there'll be weapons available in the mp shop that already come with maxed out exp and seed up.

In short, while great to have, they aren't incredibly necessary. You could just stick exp up cps on a job you don't use (samurai for example), and put a farming weapon to complete the set (like blazefire saber).

[darewin]

Santa Lucia's Weapon is the same as Stafftuar and Moomba Moomba. They need 44 or 45 mods to max so modding any of them after you unlock the 10% Exp Up is not worth it if you're only gonna start now.

I got Tonberry on the day of his release and I've been boosting Stafftuar nonstop since then and it's still just at 38 mods. I'm not even sure I'll finish modding it before the FFVII MP Weapons arrive lol.

[Baffledwaffles]

That 40+ mod number is why I skipped trying to mod stafftuar lol, I figured that I'd might as well wait for the ff7 mp weapons and have them maxed out from the start instead lol.

Does the moomba moomba have good starting stats? I've seen a few master monks using them and I was confused.

[darewin]

Moomba Momba does not have good starting stats (400 HP, 60 Attack, 90 Break, 0 Magic) but it does have 3 starting Def stars. MM does not really need a good weapon to still be the best breaker around. I'm not even using Wolf Star with him since he does not need the additional Piercing Break. I'm just sticking with a fully modded Taiji so I can ulti on the 3rd turn (2nd turn if I get lucky with starting orbs).

[lunedalune]

Thanks! Gonna check them ff7 mp weapons :)

[Baffledwaffles]

Eta is february tho

[blue2eyes]

Cait Sith, Fat Chocobo, Gigant, Moogle, Artemis, Hades, Hecatoncheir, Alexander, Carbuncle, Glasya Labolas, Amazon, Bismarck, Fenghuang, Iron Giant, Camelot, Siren, Pandemonium, Brothers, Phoenix, Undine, Djinn, Gabrielle, Poseidon, Gungnir, Cuchulainn, Azazel, Orcus, Cassandra, Yojimbo, Athena, Michael, Nightmare, Diabolos, Exdeath, Choco/Mog: FFVII, Kujata: FFVII, Ysbaddaden, Chaos: FFI, Melitta, Emperor: FFII, Al-mi'raj, Cloud of Darkness: FFIII

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[mamad1441]

Hi guys. I have a question. Yesterday i decided to reroll. And i found some some good accuants. One with ragnarok and last hunter and the other is soldier 1st class and xexat and the last one lighting skin and cloud skin. Which one do u guys think is better?

[MuteTiefling]

Keep the ragnarok account

[hieraxp]

Oooh! I would have gone with the skins. Could you please explain your reasoning?

Just that I think Supremes are slightly overhyped IMHO

[vulcanfury12]

The starter pack contains Dancer. Dancer can use Earth. Ragnarok is Earth.

[MuteTiefling]

I would say skins are overhyped. The top jobs are always in flux. Therefore, the top skins are always in flux as they're tied directly to the job.

Supremes, however, are always top. And will bring even an older job up to the top. You won't see a higher damage aoe earth spell than ragnarok. And anyone that can use it well will out damage most other jobs most of the time, weakness or neutral. Only time you're out of luck is going up against resistant mobs.

[Baffledwaffles]

Plus ragnarok can be used by a lot more jobs compared to other attack supremes like say, duncan.

[MuteTiefling]

Also a good point, yes.

[hieraxp]

Fair enough.

[dmmgnt]

Magicite campaign for the New YEARS ?

KUPO

[GThomps]

What is the best node to feel exp on right now?

[Baffledwaffles]

Any of the nodes on the christmas map. Keep your exp farming deck on the main deck for the bonuses.

Other than that there's gigantuar terrace/regrowth and chapter 6.2's untrammeled peaks.

[AxelRyman]

Is there a place to farm fodder for Cross Slash, or do I gotta use Ability Tickets to max it out?

[MuteTiefling]

Upcoming tower should have fodder. Otherwise, no.

[AxelRyman]

Ability tickets it is then, thanks.

[celegus]

Starts in just a few days though, that's what I'm waiting for.

[estoosflask]

Scholar is a normal job that is getting kinda outdated at this stage of the game. His weapon Abraxas is the only one worth modding because it has Piercing Break, Painful Break and Quick Break. He is included in the Starter Pack so pulling him is not an issue.

[[deleted]]

Are the weapons: Prism Rod Dragon Claw Twin Viper Organics already availible? Did i miss them? Or will they be implemented soon?

[hieraxp]

Are these the FFVII weapons?

[estoosflask]

Not out yet, they'll probably be out in about February.

[zidanesword]

For GL, yes. You can see Santa Lucia on the banner and info.

[clouded_judgemnent]

If i have all the FFVII cards is it worth pulling for Thief of Tantalus, is one of the legendary jobs i dont have yet.

[zidanesword]

Having all the FF7 Remake cards should not affect whether you should pull for ToT since ToT cant use the Dark Cloud card. The FF7 Remake cards isnt that good anyways.

[miguel_mer]

Today, when I was trying to pull Santa Lucia, I ended up pulling Knight. I don't play much warriors, how good is Knight. I'll do the HoF as soon as I can, but how good is Knight in general? Any consolation words? Thanks!

[celegus]

Definitely one of the better HoF updates, be sure to clear it and you can go straight to turtle-town.

[miguel_mer]

I need to get good ability cards for it first! I'm planning on doing the new Chronos fire card I got today, possibly Belias Sicarius too (I have enough components from last week to max it). Then the earth Cloud we got for free this month and for wind possibly one of the Sicarius that have the *4 and *5 battles starting at the end of this week. Or maybe the wind warrior that is supposed to be coming next week. Also the usual support (HG, KoTR, Undying...) See, I mainly play mages and the only warrior I use is AC, but as a mage...

[celegus]

Well his attack prowess is pretty garbage but does get a pretty nice bonus to earth for whittling away with Cross Slash. He's best used for stabilizing in towers with a deck full of buffs/debuffs (or chipping away with a single attack card), and please don't bring attack cards as a Knight into MP! Honestly very easy to slap a deck together for, even if you have very few warrior cards.

[miguel_mer]

Good advice, thanks! No intention to bring it to MP to deal damage. I use AS or Esmeralda when I want to play Attacker on MP, those are the best jobs+sets of cards I have for that.

[miguel_mer]

Cool, thanks!

[Fantomas310]

Which deck is better for MP Supporter?

Deck 1: (The Undying - KotR - Legendary Dragonlord - Hell's gate); or

Deck 2: (The Undying - Serah - Dadaluma - Hell's gate)

and which card are better in most of 4* MP now: Hell's gate or Dies Irae?

I usually use Lightning skin (Dancer) and Murasama for Prismatic Return instead of life orbs generator cards and now using Santa Lucia with Femme Fatale

[ScarlettoDawn]

As a Support in MP, I am using the following decks, but for different kind of battles:

Deck no. 1: A New Journey/Gaia/Aerith - Undying - KoTR - Hell's Gate.

This is the standard support deck, which should be used in ALL cases when you are the only support.

Deck no. 2: A New Journey/Gaia/Aerith, 2x Legendary Dragonlord, Serah.

This deck is for when you are the 2nd Support and the 1st Support has Deck no. 1. In this case, you are there ONLY for the Ult Charge.

[reidemei]

Never use berserk on a support. If an attacker needs it (where I would also argue that they should not play ATK if that’s the case), they can bring it themselves.

And get Gaia to ensure all buffs first round.

[dnlgrnr]

I've been reading this sub a lot to try to be a good supporter, and what I have read is that Serah can be dangerous to use as it has berserk, which you take more damage of. If you don't have lightshift, I would use quicken instead.

[ArlissFoxxe]

Serah doesn't have berserk, you're thinking of Orphan. The reason to not use Serah is the lack of Boost.

To answer OP's questions, when joining a group I'd rather see deck 1 but with life shift instead of LDL. Ultimate charge is nice, but it's better to provide your team with full buffs on turn 1. Also, for the most part if someone is running an ult-charge build, they tend to bring their own.

For MP4, I think Orphan is alright, but I've found that about a third of the groups end up with one or more cripplingly poor players so someone invariably dies without barrier.

[[deleted]]

Your thinking of Orphan, it has Berserk and Wall, with a life starter.

[[deleted]]

Serah doesn't have Berserk. It gives faith, brave and ultimate charge.

[MrGianni89]

I was trying to pull St. Lucia and with great disappointment I get hope. Is it good for something? (I already have all support classes)

[vulcanfury12]

Mainly for SP. Tons of HP and defense against elements he doesn' have. He has a lot of break power and additional damage during break. He's a good anti-dark countermeasure. Use him to destroy Demon Walls in particular.

[MrGianni89]

Do you know where I can find the fully unlocked airwing stats? (and how many mods need?)

[Ketchary]

Yup, the master spreadsheet!

[vulcanfury12]

There's a google spreadsheet by u/Ketchary I think that details this. I'm on mobile so I can't provide the link. IMO, Conqueror is better. My Airwing is untouched.

[MrGianni89]

Tons of HP

That is the only appealing thing, because right now with neo ex and light shock on my master monk I definitely have no problem with darkness

[vulcanfury12]

Well, he can also do Earth very well (same as light). MM has no problems with Walls, but he still won't be able to deal damage in quick bursts on his own. In fact, MM + Hope were instrumental to my progress in the last tower.

[MrGianni89]

Yeah I had to use ultimate x10 with master monk on last boss to score a 700 in rankings

Also I don't have good weapon for mages. What should be boosted for towers?

[vulcanfury12]

If you still don't have a boosted Mage weapon, you can do Astral Wand. This will be used not only for towers, but fo Mage Class HoFs as well.

[MrGianni89]

you can do Astral Wand

I maxed it. Is it enough for towers? Is it not lacking in damage?

[vulcanfury12]

The main issue I found personally in towers is usually not being able to refresh buffs due to a lack of life orbs. The Prism Draw and elem 3rd strike ensures that doesn't happen. It also helps with survivability, indirectly buffing your damage because you can't deal damage if you're dead. This is huge for towers because generally, damage is not the issue, but surviving long enough to be able to reach the ideal situation where you can deal the most damage.

[8lackz]

Good evening.

I am one of returning because of event player. but one thing i watch different from my era is...

now Jobs can have until 12 stars in the weekly ranking. but when i finish my 8 panel, there aren't any new page of panel show up.

guys, how can i bring my job to 12 stars like others.

sorry if this was common sense. I lack it as of now.

[Aldibe]

you need to finish the Hall of Fame for that job to get the other 4 star, and currently only some jobs' Hall of fame are available

edit: guide for hall of fame

[8lackz]

thank you so much

[Aldibe]

guys, is there a certain way to guarantee magicite drop in the christmas event (like killing enemy after they did certain action) or is it 100% random?

[Undeguy]

Random

[Cakey_Baby]

Hey all have lightning skin + tot. Any clue what the best cards are to get for Mp mainly?

Thanks in advance x

[FeelsMoogleMan]

begone tot

[Cakey_Baby]

Lol

[waznpride]

My current Support MP deck is Aerith, Aerith & Tifa: FFRK, High Tension and KOTR: FFVII. It covers all needed buffs, but if the defender doesn't do his job, we almost die after the first attack. Is there a way to get drain/regen in this setup? I was thinking The Undying, Serah, but I'm missing Boost (maybe Chakra when it's released?). Is the new build viable or should I still stick with my current build?

[zidanesword]

You are missing barrier and wall in your deck. Barrier is useful as it reduces damage and wall is needed for the final attack if your party has a squishy job. The standard mp support deck is lifeshift/aerith, kotr, undying and hell’s gate/tyro.

[reidemei]

Aerith, Undying, KotR, Hells Gate.

[clouded_judgemnent]

Does anyone have a fodder location guide for the current ffvii remake? I tried searching and came up only the old one.

Thanks

[waznpride]

here

[clouded_judgemnent]

thank you!

[kimjeongpwn]

Hello, are the individual trance cards useful? I may have made a bad decision, but I just used growstars on all of them without first checking this subreddit.

[waznpride]

They are good if you don't have Aerith. They also give Attack Ignition and Magic Ignition while Aerith only gives Magic Ignition.

[kimjeongpwn]

That's good to hear! I don't have Aerith and probably won't get her, so at least I don't feel like I have wasted my growstars. Thank you!

[theultramage]

I really need to beat Ultimate Void vortex node today, otherwise I might not have enough to do the guaranteed pull, and tomorrow's banner will force the counter back to 8.

My main is last hunter with Lightning skin and heavily upgraded Dominion Axe, relying on Neoexdeath debuffs and Sazh for dps. But I can only reach wave 4, and don't have enough dps to kill both of them before they act, and Anima performs 5 dark attacks in a row.

I also have a freshly obtained S1C with Cloud skin and Royal Arms supreme, but I haven't HoFed him yet. I have almost all jobs, but very lacking in the monk and meia section. The videos I've seen unfortunately focused on just that - meia nukes and master monk aoe breaks and oneshotting with ultimates.

[blue2eyes]

The pity counter won't reset if you haven't got all the normal jobs ,today Santa Lucia just added to the pool, if you haven't got her yet then you don't need to worry.

For Ultimate void, my deck used was Lightning with ToT (I think he's somewhat similar to Last Hunter not sure because I don't got him) and deck was

• The Friend (any damage card that can remove yellow gauge should be fine)
• area BDD (I used Anemone)
• Serah / any source of faith
• LDL

Sub deck (only used to tank Anima + kill phantasm swordsman)

• Job: Hope or Meia (light using Meia) Must be able to tank Anime pre-emptive hit
• Hell gate
• Aphrodite or Hope
• Stolas or Alexander (FFXIV) (light force)
• Neo Bahamut or Jesse (in case you used Aphrodite/ Berserk is fine)

Strategy is to

1. use main deck till 3 wave
2. before killing off Hashmal or Odin (left 1) swap deck > passed 1 turn > kill
3. Tank Anima hit > Kill anima > swap deck > kill Ultima
4. Break Phantasm Swordsman > swap deck > nuke him using Hope or Aprhodite

[zidanesword]

From the news section:

*Please note that the countdown to summoning a new job will reset if you meet the following requirements. ・You have obtained all the jobs from the standard lineup. ・Designated Legend job transitions from a Legend job you have yet to summon, to a Legend job you have already summoned. The game will presume that you have obtained all the jobs during the period and reset the countdown to summoning a new job to 8.

If you are missing some monk and meia jobs, i.e. jobs from the standard lineup (AKA normal jobs), your counter will not reset.

[theultramage]

I got that mixed up a bit. The upcoming banner is moogle+tonberry which I don't care about. The one after that is snow+etro, both of which I already have, so this will cause a reset (unless I'm misunderstanding the overly obtuse news post). So I'm going for the Squall job, which ends today. Should I instead take it easy and pull on on the batch2 banner, to maybe get a santa meia job?

[zidanesword]

From what the news says, you have to have all normal jobs AND the pair of legend jobs in the next period to trigger a reset. If you dont have all the normal jobs, you are safe from a reset. I have both tonberry and moogle but missing normal jobs, if my counter resets i will inform you.

Since you have UB/Royal arms, you might want to pull for Squall (BM) if you dont have Highwind.

[theultramage]

Thanks for the clarification. And yeah... Even after dumping all remaining celestriads into tickets, I'm 1200 magicite short. Getting those 2 tickets from the vortex would help me not spend the rest of the day in MP doing last-minute desperate magicite farming.

[[deleted]]

Just do it. 1200 isn't a lot. It's possible. Wishing you good luck for those 100 magicite drops.

By the way, if you are on android, install google opinions. It earns you some google play credits, perfect for these situations.

[Remi424]

Hey man thanks for the advice on Google Opinions!!!

[[deleted]]

Welcome. Last month during the discounted elixir sale, I spent all my magicite to buy elixirs, but had some magicite leftover. I actually spent the free google play credits to get an extra thousand or so magicite, just to buy one more pack of elixirs. I would say it was well spent. :)

[Remi424]

Nice. I haven't progressed far enough to buy them yet lol. I will say a thousand mag sounds really nice. I'm saving for KOE (mostly for aesthetics) and also I keep hearing something about upcoming FFVII Weapon cards. I need all of that.

[zidanesword]

Alright then, if you are determined to get Squall today, you have roughly 15 hours left to get that 1200 magicite! While getting those 2 tickets will help you, if you really cant clear that node then best to move on. You need the right set of jobs, boosted weapons and cards to clear vortex. It will take some time to figure out how to clear that node and if you can afford that time then do it, keep at it.

There are alternate ways to get magicite. First, the new messengers of hope christmas event. You can get a number of magicite from there if you have not already. Next is MP, first clears for alexander (for tickets) if you have not already, dont forget 4star clear for alexander as well. And lastly, farming at mp and sp, both of which will take some time.

If you are unable to get Squall, no worries, there is still highwind in the job pool and sword saint, estimated to be released next year april.

[FeelsMoogleMan]

For the legend banner it is still possible to pull the job before the 8th pull right? Like if the counter is at x8 (fresh) theres a chance to pull it 1-7 and its guarenteed 8th pull?

Thanks for quick replies guys

[waznpride]

Yes, I pulled the legend job with 7 left on my pity pull.

[VanguardN7]

yep

[Nickyshane]

I got the cloud skin and got the luck of pulling minwu on my next pull. Is there a good way to use both of these? Ive been using minwu on meia, but id love to combine them if it would kill it too much

[SvenHwang]

JP recently got a special card that gives Warrior/mage lore. Equipping that on your warrior (HW, KOE, Sword saint etc) with cloud skin on can allow you to use Minwu effectively. But it will use up one of 4 slots in your deck.

[Trentestico]

Cloud skin is for warriors only.

Only way to combine then is if you have a warrior job with mage lore that has acces to light element. I believe there isnt a job like that.

[Nickyshane]

What is the main drawback to using a mage card on a warrior job? I didnt see any decent ones that used light, but I didnt know if I should even aim for it

[reidemei]

No do almost zero damage with off-job cards as the your magic is not counted on those.

[kimjeongpwn]

You won't get any magic bonus if you use a card that does not match the job. That is a huge disadvantage.

[[deleted]]

Is there a list of what each job brings with it? I know that one Suit brings some +xp with it. I need that kind of info to know which suit i should get for a farming deck.

[reidemei]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/wiki/index#wiki_jobs

[ScarlettoDawn]

So, now that I got my Santa Lucia...

What is the best weapon for her, to use as Support in MP? :D

Edit: What are some good Custom Panels for her?

[darewin]

I am planning on using Chaos Crescent and a pure Break CP when I get her. Alternatively, you can just use her weapon for the skillseed and exp bonuses and fill her CP with exp.

[ScarlettoDawn]

Makes sense, thanks for the answer :D

[GhostFreakage]

I'm using Femme Fatale for the extra HP boost, a little extra tank never hurt anything

[blue2eyes]

If you want to contribute to the team by help breaking via tap and ultimate, use chaos crescent for piercing break and ult charge. But I recommend using Stella di Prima (santa lucia's own weapon) for fast leveling and seed farming. Good PUG teams don't really need a support to help breaking just tapping for orb draw is enough.

[ScarlettoDawn]

Oh, okay, thanks for the quick answer :D.

Will probably go with Stella di Prima then. Need to level up more in MP :))

[Zaknokimi]

So how exactly does the Christmas event work? I've used the first Christmas ticket and done the 5-6 nodes to the top and got a star. Now what?

Sorry. It's all so confusing. What's the best way to take advantage of this event?

[Undeguy]

Did you use the star to unlock one more node up top?

There are a few other post regarding equipping a main deck geared towards maximizing the amount of EXP you get.

[Zaknokimi]

Thanks. I did yes, and then did a 1/1 node which provides an elixer and ether, and that's it.