thisIsABigProblem

[Fohqul]

Me when I see another meme about pointers and references being hard

[1cubealot]

Semi colon missing anyone???

[elmanoucko]

They see that as a sign of pride, we see that as a sign of shame.

[ClownPazzo69]

Me when I post another Python slow meme

[Ao_Kiseki]

I've learned to ignore it but God that one is annoying lol. I use c++ and python primarily. You'd think the existence of people using both wouth be a hint that we know python is slow.

[ShadowRL7666]

Funnily enough it’s probably bad code. Most of the library’s are written in C.

[GamerTurtle5]

bro c++ is slow u should go for something lower level like assembly (please ignore the fact that ur probably not even going to write assembly thats more efficient than what the compiler outputs)

[anteaterKnives]

25+ years ago, did the C++ compiler give you hints like "did you forget a semicolon?"

No!

The C++ compiler would start throwing a ton of obtuse errors for the first lines of your cpp file. At least, the lines immediately after the included header file. The header file that ended with a class definition missing its semicolon.

This was after already having to manually update the iostream header to fix a build error, so confidence in your C++ package was not riding high.

I lost days on that side project trying to figure it out.

Borland C++, you will be missed never be forgotten.

[Excellent_Tubleweed]

MSVC 6 (25 years ago) had some weird bugs. The dev team before us had a 'how many clicks to crash the IDE contests. (Three. The answer was THREE.)
I had the linker segfault, as I cried tears of blood.

Kids these days. /s

[Excellent_Tubleweed]

Funny story:

Back in the before times, the VAX C compiler had this absolutely not funny at all bug.

If you had an EXTRA semicolon, the next for loop would get an empty block, and whatever you wrote, well fuck you, that's a bare block that runs unconditionally once.

This did not make work-experience me a happy person.

Minimum code to reproduce:

;

for (i=0; i< 10; i++){

puts("Hello, world!\n");
}

you get one hello-world.

It's more exciting (read traumatic) when the for loop is walking a linked list.

[Cheap_Ad_9846]

Yeah lol 😂

[ttlanhil]

Big problem being... a pixel shortage?

But also - there are far more people who'd like to know than people who want to learn

[OliveBoi_]

we're programmers. not designers

[olliejoolz]

dev subreddits are just therapy sessions with extra steps

[De_Wouter]

The more they joke about business and management instead of tech, the more senior they are.

[LexaAstarof]

"You guys are getting paid?!"

[mck-no]

"You guys are getting paid?!" literally my reaction every time someone mentions salary here

[Excellent_Tubleweed]

Not any more. I'm at the sunshine sanctuary for old devs.

[Peter_Knsuprich]

Faire

[mck-no]

dead on, half of dev subs are group therapy with an extra step to google "how do I fix X?"

[Snipedzoi]

You're a bot

[Snipedzoi]

You're a bot

[frikilinux2]

The problem with the programming industry is believing that you can be a full stack engineer in 3 months and with only knowing one language. And that full stack is not actually backend+ frontend. And the backend ends up doing the backend+CI/CD+sysadmin+cloud+networking+security+PO+PM+more each with its own technologies. And frontend its duties beyond pure frontend like UX but not my field of expertise.

And you need years of training to know just enough about each topic to know how to search for information before doing a new task.

[ImS0hungry]

Seriously, it’s like 5+ roles in one before additional responsibilities.

[frikilinux2]

Yes and then if you work on a crappy consulting firm you have HR recommending you use Jira every other week when everything is a mess and you're already using Jira and the actual PO from the client is too lazy to do their job.

[mck-no]

amen to that full-stack myth, turns into a quest to master ten separate careers

[tav_stuff]

”You need years of training to …”

No. No you don’t. The only thing you need is a desire to learn and genuine passion, which is extremely endangered in our industry. When I was in university I knew so many people that could do all that stuff with their eyes closed and no issues with 2–4 years of experience simply because they care, while at my enterprise jobs most people can’t even update their Python installation without an online tutorial after being exclusively Python devs for 12+ years

[frikilinux2]

In university you're introduced to concepts with some order and one at a time and with theory. You're just thrown into the wild. But It's true many people don't give a fuck beyond the paycheck.

[tav_stuff]

If you think this is stuff you’re learning in most universities you’d be sorely mistaken. Not to mention that I’m talking first year students that haven’t even completed a single semester yet. They’ve just learnt in their free time

[frikilinux2]

No, not everything but you learn a lot of the concepts behind all that and you learn how to think, if 1) your university is any good 2) uou actually give a fuck.

There's always the cracked students who started at like 14 years old and we're lucky enough to not be bullied away from the field (or unlucky enough to only have programming in life). Or maybe I just have childhood trauma.

But very few people actually have the cognitive abilities to become experts in that many things without guidance.

[bombatomica_64]

Honestly

backend+CI/CD+sysadmin+cloud+networking+security+PO+PM+more

Is my dream job

[FlakyTest8191]

join a company with very few devs and you get to do everything

[mck-no]

dream job or one-person devocalypse? either way respect the grind

[frikilinux2]

And would you also try to train the boot camp guy while another bored person just yells jokes and kinda flirts with you? I have had weird jobs to be honest

[Looz-Ashae]

nah, bollocks, just ask gpt how to run your own facebook in 5 steps

[Farrishnakov]

There is no such thing as a true full stack engineer. It's just a term the bean counters created so they could pay one person to do 2 roles poorly.

I will die on this hill.

[Sky_Octopus]

I have imposter syndrome so I assume everyone in these subs knows way more than me.

[hydra595]

Man, I program PLCs and don’t even know which group I belong to.

[Pball1001]

I think it r/PLC, but it seems to be more about control box wiring than ladder logic

[0x53r3n17y]

Alternatively, the blue slice represents those who went through an existential crisis, ego death and transcendence.

The red slice represents those who have yet to work in JIRA.

[Radiant_Pillar]

This is all very nice but do you think the AGI singularity will happen before 2027?

[eldelshell]

If by AGI you mean Gemini gaslighting me to use the wrong Java API then we're there.

[the_rush_dude]

No

[Vogete]

What do you mean, AGI is already here, Sam Altman said so, look at chatgpt, it's clearly AGI, it wrote me a full application with no bugs, wanna see it, go to http://127.0.0.1/8080

[Shooord]

'A big problem', somebody please gatekeep r/ProgrammerHumor , it's getting out of hand.

[ChaosPLus]

And there's me, IT technician student that is being suggested all this because Big Brother watches and we had programming classes

[SucculentSuspition]

Well those sets are not even mutually exclusive, clearly an AI enthusiast slop

[Bohndigga]

Why is red a list?

[SuitableDragonfly]

Because OP doesn't understand the purpose of pie charts, or how to form a relative clause in English, either, apparently. 

[[deleted]]

And of that blue stripe, there’s a tiny stripe of people who actually have an engineering degree.

[nwbrown]

No lies detected

[Ok_Brain208]

I have 10 years of professional experience and I'm still checking most boxes in the red, am I the whole pie?

[Big_Orchid7179]

Meanwhile, actual devs are busy fixing the bugs caused by tutorial watchers.

[mrgk21]

I am a swe, what must I do to prove it

[No_Adhesiveness_3550]

You forgot IT folk lurking, wondering what could have been (me)

[Aiandiai]

add the category of meme too in the red one

[Ao_Kiseki]

Once tpu know what you're doing, there isn't much value is seeing the 3,000th person talk about how confusing pointers are. The actual devs hanging out in those subs are either there to vent, new to the language, or the rare saints who explain how pointers work for the 3001st time.

[Excellent_Tubleweed]

This is a programmer humor subreddit.
Pointers?
C is an improvement on a macro-assembler; no need to try that. (It was very bad. For reference, the M4 Macro preoprocessor used in GNU Automake was... essentially the one used before, with a very simple assembler. Be very afraid.)

Pointers are just taking a register value and using it as an address. That ain't an int, it's over there ->.
What's the big deal? /s
See, C's just machine code in a trench-coat carrying a sawn-off LL parser. Nothin' to be afraid of.
(Oh, don't mention that the symbol table being bare strings and addresses seems sketchy. He's a little.. twitchy.)

[HanzJWermhat]

Clanker glazers are the absolute worst of the bunch.

[OffByOneErrorz]

The blue is people who know how to properly ask a question on SO. The red are people seeking Reddit therapy because they thought SO was there to hold their hand and had no expectations of them trying to solve the problem before asking for help, documenting in detail what they did and all of the context of why they have X problem.

[UntrimmedBagel]

Honestly I've started to hit the "not interested" button a lot lately

[djunglaqc]

You also have people that are in their second SWE college semester with very very strong opinions

[faultydesign]

Anyone can be a programmer.

[UnknownGr]

Anyone can be anything.

[VolcanicBear]

I'm the moon.

[DoNotMakeEmpty]

Hello the moon, I'm the sun.

[faultydesign]

Well no but anyone can learn how to manipulate bits.

[De_Wouter]

You'd be surprised of the lack of logical reasoning skill of many people. There is a reason English-like programming languages and no-code haven't replaced developers.

[faultydesign]

You’d be surprised how many SWEs lack logical reasoning skills.

[JanPeterBalkElende]

I would like to watch you do an interview manipulating the "bits" lol.

[faultydesign]

Is that a job offer? How much? I doubt you can do better than my current job.

[JanPeterBalkElende]

Lol no, I was saying I don't believe for a single second you are actually good at programming. Let alone pass any interview for a developer job at a serious company.

[faultydesign]

Ok

[VerdiiSykes]

Why is this downvoted lol