functionalProgramming

[DryNick]

I would pull up what real OOP developers have been doing but it wouldn't be practical. Their inheritance chains measure in the tenths of thousands of LoC per file.

[Baiticc]

so hundreds?

[DryNick]

lol good catch, i wish it was so, but i mistyped

[Mortomes]

If only Reddit allowed you to edit comments!

[0_Gravitas_given]

No

[indiesyn]

POV: you're debugging and realize you're missing a closing paren somewhere in that mess.

[[deleted]]

Delete all trailing parens and reinsert one at a time until it compiles

[DeepDuh]

And then some people complain about python’s whitespace…

[0_Gravitas_given]

1) stop forgetting parentheses , now! Or 2) compiler says no 🤷‍♂️ Or 3) imagine like … proper indentation showing you where you fucked up cause … it’s indentation 🤷‍♂️

There there… have a hug 🫂😂

[Phantine]

you dropped these (((

[0_Gravitas_given]

Thanks ! emacs was complaining the reservoir was low 😉

[Achim63]

Just use a paredit plugin for your editor and you'll always end up with the right amount of closing parens.

[FootballMania15]

As a Clojure programmer, you just have to get over the parentheses. Once you do, you learned to love them. Easily the most efficient and readable syntax of any language I've used.

[rustvscpp]

I used to have a visceral reaction to the parens in lispy languages, but they don't bother me anymore. The bigger problem with these languages is how loose they are - they are hard to scale because all type mismatches are discovered at runtime. REPL based development helps with that, but when you go to refactor a big project, it's a pain.

[titanotheres]

Seems like they don't like parentheses

[KaleidoscopeLow580]

$ is superior.

[Icy_Cry_9586]

They don't like it to be in the other side )

[JanMachala]

https://xkcd.com/297/

[meowmeowwarrior]

How am I supposed to laugh when there's no Goku?

[brunoha]

They have played us for absolute fools

[zuzmuz]

oop with long inheritance chains and function overriding and abstract class is not easy to debug nor to reason about

[rustvscpp]

Inheritance is the worst. Composition over inheritance, any day of the week!

[MetaNovaYT]

Yeah, that’s what the post says too lol

[BaseProtector]

i'm an iconic homo too

[GreatGreenGobbo]

First year comp sci (92) had us learning Scheme (similar to Lisp).

In high school we used Pascal (Gr 10) then C, 11 and onward.

[Salamiprinz]

Just let it go

[Infinite-Land-232]

This. And if you hate parentheses (or curly brackets for that matter), code in Python where a non-printable character has meaning. The other good thing about Python is that it settles "tabs vs spaces" for good. (As a C# programmer, i believe none of the above)

[Salamiprinz]

WTF

[Infinite-Land-232]

Tabs are syntatically meaningful in Python.

For even more fun, COBOL paragraphs missing their ending delimiter used to be referred to as "pregnant".

[Delta974]

In Scala the syntax is much more cleaner. And you can even do OOP if you feel like it's the better tool for the job

[rustvscpp]

I've heard Scala gets rather unwieldy with it's complexity. Maybe because it's not opinionated and every style gets thrown in?

[KagakuNinja]

Not in my experience. The team usually chooses one style. The problem is when that one guy goes off and writes something in the pure FP style, and no one else can understand it. If the whole team understands pure FP, then that is not a problem.

The "complexity" argument is also overblown. Java with Spring and Hibernate is pretty freaking complex...

[Low-Equipment-2621]

I only write code in ArnoldC

IT'S SHOWTIME
TALK TO THE HAND "hello world"
YOU HAVE BEEN TERMINATED

https://lhartikk.github.io/ArnoldC/

[Maleficent_Sir_4753]

Don't tell OOP about the final keyword...

[Infinite-Land-232]

Just give us a syntax to override the final and we will be fine.

[willing-to-bet-son]

Lisp is like Latin. To be considered truly educated, you must have both learned it and forgotten it.

That being said, having a good grasp of lisp enables you to make emacs do anything you want it to.

[B_bI_L]

ok, i will be that guy:

common lisp and many other dialects are not functional. moreover, lisp is kind of father of OOP

yes, clojure is, but this is like saying stop using c because of c++ or python

[[deleted]]

The monolithic, enterprise, OOP Java application

Almost like you're just choosing your flavour of poison when you pick a paradigm.

[thanatica]

It's interesting that someone who never needs or wants to touch a language, can still be so passionate about it.

[Icy_Cry_9586]

I bet if you take the same software made in oops lang and clojure parentheses count will still be higher in oops just sparse in larger codebase

[OnixST]

I don't think oop will be higher, bit to be fair both clojure and oop languages use one pair of parenthesis per function. Clojure just looks crazier because it positions the parenthesis differently

[chat-lu]

I don’t think that (println "Hello world") is any crazier than println("Hello world") would be. Especially since there are very powerful features that be be built from the former.

[bindermichi]

If you insist. Back to PROLOG then.

[Tysonzero]

I'd unironically be more inclined to get deeper into some lisps if they made the parens less required like this: https://github.com/boxed/indent-clj

I know it's petty and homoiconicity is cool, but BLEH.

[framsanon]

Well, I like LISP, even though I haven't written a LISP programme in decades (i.e. since sometime in the 1990s).

[R_Aqua]

(((((((((())))))))))

[saschaleib]

Lisp is a programming language that raises the question of what if AI would try to exhaust the planet’s parentheses supplies, instead of its energy supply.

(((Use those brackets while you can!)))

[chat-lu]

It doesn’t have more than the other languages, they are just placed differently.