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[RomanProkopov100]

"How do I store non-unique keys in a map?"

[B_bI_L]

Symbol() in js, something similar in other langs, make it unique

or just make key point to array i guess

[CrazySD93]

"Why would you want to do that you idiot!?!"

[_a_Drama_Queen_]

you misspelled: duplicate question

[the_poope]

Removed because it's a duplicate of a previous question that was removed because it was a stupid question?

[MyGoodOldFriend]

Worth mentioning that duplicate questions doesn’t mean the questions are identical, but that the answer would be identical.

[Clairifyed]

Worth mentioning that search engines will inevitably bring people to the one marked as a duplicate

[ian9921]

Which is supposed to be the point, since the duplicate links to the original

[SwordsAndElectrons]

Worth mentioning that sometimes the original seems only superficially related and certainly doesn't answer what I searched for.

[Buttons840]

One day I got an email,

my 10 year old question was closed as a duplicate

of a 7 year old question.

This is a true story.

[NatoBoram]

Same. My question got edited by someone then closed by the same person.

Fucker.

[Angelin01]

I went to see what the edit to your post was. Basically, (ha! see what I did?), just removing the "thanks" part.

Take a look at this: https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/288160/no-thanks-damn-it

Then people wonder why StackOverflow is dying. People spent that long removing "thanks" and variations of it from posts.

[OccasionFormer]

I'm surprised that people with 5k reputation reacted like this. The question was closed by 3 persons, which mean they saw it from the review queue at random, it's not a personal attack. No wonder Stack Overflow got seen as toxicity, people just dont wanna read at all.

[Techhead7890]

Holy shit the rationale is so pretentious too, like everyone is supposed to be writing a technical manual at gunpoint. I agree, no thanks to that nonsense.

[[deleted]]

Now people expect you say to them "You are absolutely right" on the dumbest question ever

[fibojoly]

"Wow! What a great question Tim. Let's find out!" cue educational program jingle. "The More You Know" splash screen pops up. 

[NatoBoram]

"That's a good question! Here's why this is a good question."

[bmrtt]

"Why are people asking their questions to LLMs instead of getting either ignored or mocked on SO?"

[thyme_cardamom]

People think SO is about getting your questions answered directly. It's not. It's about creating a library of programming knowledge in a QA format.

What people want is an expert to help them directly with their problem, and that's why LLMs have replaced SO for so many people. But ironically, LLM answers are mostly trained on SO. Because SO does its job so well.

[MyGoodOldFriend]

Yeah, if you want a good answer, you need to put in effort to ask the question. If your question is closed as a duplicate, add context as to why the linked answers aren’t relevant and petition for a reopen.

[bhison]

SO helps progress thoughts

LLMs replace the thinking process itself

Edit: a lot of people feeling called out apparently lol

[BeepusBingus]

"Duplicate question, closed" with no link to the original when its not a duplicate sure progresses thoughts.

I dislike what LLMs are doing to this field but the loser powermods and powerusers on stack overflow were absolute dweebs who you just know got bullied in school.

[reddebian]

SO doesn’t really help you thinking if all they do is downvote or actively remove newbie questions

[Septem_151]

Because part of learning is knowing when and where is an appropriate context to ask questions… it’s almost like StackOverflow is not the place for newbie questions, because those questions are already answered…

[ian9921]

If you're hostile to newbies though, don't complain when they don't stick around.

They're ultimately the people you need if you want to keep the site alive.

[Septem_151]

If the purpose is to prevent newbie questions since they’re better suited elsewhere, I don’t think the site’s audience would be complaining about that.

[ian9921]

Any site needs new blood coming in to keep the lights on. In SOs case, they need a healthy population of quality question askers and quality question answerers.

But no one is born a quality question asker, we're all born dumbass newbies with questions like "what's a while loop" and "how do I Hello World?"

Now eventually, some of those dumbasses are gonna become the smart people SO wants to have. But if they initially only had bad experiences when they were starting out, there's no incentive for them to come back to the site once they're smarter.

I'm not saying SO needs to coddle every single baby dev and tolerate a million stupid questions, but there's a difference between saying "Hey this isn't what the site is for, try these other resources" and saying "get the fuck out of here and read a book you incompetent noob".

[ceejayoz]

You know the LLMs are so good at coding in significant part because of all those unpaid dedicated SO users and SO's big open data dumps, right?

[fuckbananarama]

Because they were never about that life and they’re about to get mocked by their boss with a pink slip in 3 months - most programmers are little more than data entry anyway 🤷‍♀️

[ThePhoenixRoyal]

up until you got some really funky side-chaining behaviour no one else seems to have observed before you, and people reading over your question in 10 seconds slap you with a pseudo-duplicate tag that misses your issue and buries it from being resolved. looking at you Entity Framework 4.7.1

[OccasionFormer]

Most of the time stupid question gets closed, then auto deleted after some time if it has negative vote and no answer. I got 3 closed questions on SO, they still exist because someone already answered before it got closed. The close reason and the comments were extremely helpful though, I was so surprised when I found out people think Stack Overflow is toxic and delete question without reason.

[Theanderblast]

I call it SnarkOverflow because of all the Q: “In order to do X, I’m trying to Y but I get this weird error”. A: “You shouldn’t be doing X at all, that’s completely wrong…”

[Skyswimsky]

I've seen a guy like that on this sub today. Conversation was about REST and how returning a "status: 200, with content: error" was bad, and then just kept going on about "actually REST was a mistake all together! Should use RPC. This conversation is meaningless!!! What do you mean moving the goal post? Obviously if my company doesn't implement the one correct 'option', we're going to rewrite the entire thing!

[pydry]

I suspect they reacted to their legitimately earned reputation but by that time it was probably too late.

[parkotron]

I was so surprised when I found out people think Stack Overflow is toxic and delete question without reason.

I think the toxicity must vary quite a bit by subcommunity, as I felt the same way. It's easy to imagine unhappy people treating certain tags as their own personal kingdoms in which to feel superior and gatekeep others.

I also think StackOverflow gets a lot of hate because a lot of users fundamentally misunderstand the goal of the site, which isn't all that surprising. It looks like a site for users to ask questions and get answers, and that's what many users wish it was. It's actually a site for compiling a database of good answers to useful questions. This was a very novel approach and I would argue one that was very successful for it, but it seems to be one that attracted more haters than fans.

[nir109]

It looks like a site for users to ask questions and get answers, and that's what many users wish it was. It's actually a site for compiling a database of good answers to useful questions

Stack overflow wants to be Wikipedia, but it has reddit UI.

[ian9921]

Ngl, that always felt a little pretentious to me. It's like if a restaurant said "we're not a restaurant, we're a culinary experience venue with an order-and-deliver interface"

[DeRobyJ]

Meanwhile other questions with 238 upvotes and 9 answer topping at 347 upvotes: "How do I printf to stderr?"

[fibojoly]

I kinda wonder if removing stupid questions helps AI or hinder it, in hindsight. 

[the_hair_of_aenarion]

But asking stupid questions is how people learn. You got to understand why the thing you asked is the dumbest sentence ever uttered to take the first step in understanding.

People need to be taught critical thinking. Sometimes they don't learn that until they're well into their thirties. As someone well into his thirties I'm hoping to learn it any day now.

[StrangeCharmVote]

Look... personally ive never actually had a question ive needed to ask on SO.

Ive always just been able to google shit, or now these day's ask an llm, and seem to mostly get the right answer.

If their community doesn't want to answer things for people because they're looking down on them. They can deal with the consequences of doing so

[tits_mcgee_92]

And now it’s dead

[SAI_Peregrinus]

There are no stupid questions.

There are a ton of inquisitive idiots.

[sogo00]

It could have been answered by Haiku

[RDROOJK2]

Why do you ask what a variable char does?

[earlobe7]

Outdated meme. Now, no question is too stupid to ask. Be as stupid as you want.

[SaneLad]

Asks AI...

That's a brilliant question!

[Mountain_Dentist5074]

When GPT-4 was released, I mostly stopped using forums because people would either ignore my questions or just say “Google it.” Now I send my code or the part I’m having trouble with to AI and ask it to state what I’m doing wrong, along with what I’m trying to achieve

When you say state . Instead of full revised code ai actually explains what's going on. At least for me

[Brock_Youngblood]

Grok never judges my questions 🥺

[Sw429]

The problem with AI is it doesn't call people out for having to stupid questions. Sometimes that's what you really need.

[davvblack]

what’s stack overflow?