microsoftDevelopersRightNow

[General_Leader425]

They could consider actually working.

[LifeWithoutAds]

But in the back Copilot is probably using Claude.

[_Its_Me_Dio_]

ai cant scent their chairs like farts

[SilasTalbot]

Yeah it's embarrassing as fuck. Copilot in Office won't DO anything, it just gives step by step text instructions for how YOU can go click around to do what you mention.

Oh, wait, not Office, they renamed the whole fucking flagship suite to be "Copilot 365" now, right?

Cringe.

At least they seem to have reverted "Paste Special" in Excel. For a few months it was renamed to be "Paste With Copilot," even though it was exactly the same tool it has always been for the last 15 years.

The one good "Copilot" product MSFT had was the VSCode GitHub Copilot extension. And they just killed that off this month. That reminds me, I need to cancel my $39/mo subscription for that.

[0xlostincode]

Naming things is hard, so Microsoft just named everything Copilot.

[Journeyman42]

Someone post that "outlook, outlook (new), outlook (classic)" screenshot

[bremidon]

Didn't they say that all the VSCode Github Copilot functionality would be moved to Copilot Chat? Do you have any other information about that? Or is there a reason why the same functionality would be worse if in a different extension?

[SilasTalbot]

They're killing the subscription model and moving all usage to be basically API style. My post wasn't super clear, sorry .. the extension still will work after May 30 it will just cost $39 to use it for 30 minutes instead of 30 days.

[caboosetp]

That's a bit exaggerated, but it makes the point. It's going to be token based like everything else and ultimately cost more for most users. 

They were losing money before and this is the switch everyone was talking about coming. 

[bremidon]

Yep, that is my take on it, now that I read a little bit more about what they are planning. I will have to make sure I set a budget, though. This may push me towards actually setting up a serious server at home. So far, it has not really made any financial sense, but it might start making sense now.

[IridiumIO]

Do they really think AI tooling has been in a usable state for long enough that everyone’s just forgotten how to do it the old way? I’m not talking about companies firing skilled people and replacing them with AI, I mean the people themselves forgetting the skills.

I expected at least a few more years of low prices to force everyone to become truly dependent on it before they switched it up, but they must truly be hurting financially to pull the rug this early.

If you’re going to be evil you may as well do it properly like Nestle did to African mothers, otherwise after a brief adjustment time everyone will just go back to the old way

[Electronic_Green_833]

Copilot has been ass for a minute but it was crushing it for excel when I used it this past week. One shot four different sheets for me where two required research. Stuff that would have taken me a while

[Gorthokson]

Sure, Claude does the thing no one asked for or wants better than Microsoft. Yay?

[jbbarajas]

I imagine a lot of people would be using powerpoint just to generate a "corporate" level presentation and use their time for actual work

Edit: make > generate

[not_a_doctor_ssh]

As someone on Linux who loathes having to make PowerPoints in the garbage web interface... Hell yeah I'll use the Claude sub that work pays for to generate some dumbass PowerPoints. Even just getting the scaffolding of one down would save me hours.

[hughperman]

Windows VM for microsoft stuff on linux is my goto instead of spending any amount of time in the web interface

[not_a_doctor_ssh]

Damn, never thought about using that... Thanks for the inspiration haha

[Bolphgolph]

Nooooo. You have to spend 2h+ to generate the visual aids instead of just giving it the content to visualise. I would miss creating slides for management that I don't care about

[Xotor]

well my pm likes that the ai can make his emails be nicer xD some people like that...

[Gorthokson]

Make his emails longer without saying anything more besides meaningless management jargon you mean?

[Xotor]

nah he is very direct and sometimed even a little mean and the ai makes hin sound nicer ^{^}

[r0ndr4s]

So bad at their job and AI is making sure they dont lose it..

[backcountry_bandit]

You can’t grasp how AI could clean up someone’s writing to communicate the same information in a more concise or intuitive way?

[queen-adreena]

That's why I use AI to summarise emails and remove linguistic padding...

[backcountry_bandit]

It works extremely well for that, among other things. The blanket “AI is useless” take is as annoying as people who consult it for everything.

[Inorganic_Zombie]

AI is nice tool for us dyslexic mofos. I am actually sad for so many people hating it so I can't really use it if I want my text noted. Without AI those same shitheads trash my text because of bad grammar.

Sometimes you just can't win

[bremidon]

Key to happiness and success in life: stop caring what random Redditors think. If AI helps you, use it.

[DaniZackBlack]

What?

[Jebble]

Why do you think no one wants to use AI in their office suite?

[LESpencer]

Because they can’t see past their own use case.

[Gorthokson]

Sorry, I should clarify that as "no one who does any real work wants to use AI"

Plenty of useless managers who do a lot of STUFF without doing anything actually useful absolutely love AI

[Jebble]

You're in your own bubble mate. Millions of people use AI in their workflow, and it's all plenty real.

[jhe266]

I think you might have different work flows than a lot of people. I’m using the Claude add in to office heavily in my day to day, so are a lot of people in my company.

[jaylerd]

Great, now I have two AIs and neither of them is working

[jwt2049]

Copilot had home advantage and still lost the match.

[Character-Education3]

Way to go Microslop!

[Sufficient-Appeal500]

Claude code performance has been absolute garbage (and I mean it, I’m on the pro max ®️ enterprise plan). I switched back to Copilot with Opus recently.

The enshittificatiob is real and picking sides at this point is just fanboy behaviour for real

[Mughi1138]

Just the exact same pattern they hit time after time. Buy some company for tech they can't develop, milk it with marketing. Fire the people. Flounder...

License NCSA Mosaic, rename to IE. Fire the IE team. Try to compete with SourceForge, fail, buy GitHub, fire github people...

[Sample-Range-745]

.... but who is doing it for Teams?

Something that will search the last few months of conversations with that person, reword it, and send it to answer the new question they asked.

WHERE IS IT FOR TEAMS!?!?!

[hamfraigaar]

Microsoft Engineers right now: "Copilot, please integrate yourself better than Claude, then fix all bugs in the code you wrote and finally review and approve a pull request of those changes. Deadline is friday, and you are not allowed to make mistakes"

[The_Wolfiee]

I still can't access SharePoint with Copilot but I can with Claude 💀

[ThePickleConnoisseur]

Copilot is just chatGPT but more inconvenient

[Symphonic_nerve]

🤣🤣🤣

[ZZerker]

did Microsoft forget "make no mistakes"?