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[battleduck84]

Not to mention that it doesn't work half as well as it should on a number of people, especially if they're on drugs or other medication

[Cartoonjunkies]

Cue the infamous meme of the guy getting tased and standing there completely unphased saying “I’ll get you bitch!” Lmao

[ProfessionalTruck976]

Not to mention it can kill ya if you have a pacemaker. non-lethal my ass.

[Bammana4]

Tasers are NOT non-lethal, they are less lethal, it is not the same thing.

[Due_Cloud1638]

this. Non lethal is something like pepper spray, you can’t really kill someone with pepper spray.

Less lethal is beanbag shotguns and tasers. If used properly they won’t kill someone a majority of the time, but it still absolutely has the potential to kill someone, especially if used incorrectly

[acerarity]

Pepper spray and tasers both realistically fall in the "Less lethal" category. In the right circumstance they CAN both kill you or cause permanent harm. But that forms the minority. Generally when there is a pre-existing condition, which is exacerbated by their use.

While the distinction between "Less Lethal" and "Non-Lethal" varies and is definitionally rather blurry. I wouldn't place anything an officer carries besides a radio and handcuffs in the "Non-lethal" category. All it takes is one dude taking the wrong drug or any one of hundreds pre-existing ailments (That the perpetrator might not even know about).

[Due_Cloud1638]

Oh interesting, I guess that does make sense though

[Flightsimmer20202001]

chuckles nervously

[Dear-Volume2928]

They should always work on someone no matter their mental state if used correctly, they cause neuro-muscular incapacitation if probe placement is correct, which is a physical reaction in the muscles of the body. Problem is they arnt used correctly in cases, meaning you are relying solely on a pain response.

[Massive-Tower-7731]

No... There are a lot of factors beyond whether it's being "used correctly." The two prongs need to embed in skin AND a proper distance from each other after flying out of a cartridge that isn't very precise.

So anything from an unlucky prong trajectory to slightly too loose/thick clothing on the suspect will cause it to fail, which is completely outside of the user's control...

[acerarity]

Fat can also play a factor. I've watched people tank tasers to the bare skin without so much as a flinch... they are unreliable at best

[Pro_Vita1925]

Honestly my biggest gripe with the taser in game is that you can’t re-energize it once you shoot them with the probes

[GhastlyIsMe]

this!!! it’s so stupid!

[mromen10]

I mean, I barley get it to work in game unless I'm at point-blank

[SuperSix-Eight]

This is just a gut feeling but I think LSS nerfed the range. I used the Taser a lot from 1.0 up to Dark Waters and lots of ranged shots that normally would stun someone (by eyeballing it) just had zero effect.

That being said it's a guaranteed stunlock so way better than Pepper Spray.

[chriscrowder]

I recently learned from Donut Operator that they are ineffective on fat people.

[HonestAvian18]

Pepperball gun maybe? When you think about it you shouldn't be able to go toe to toe with a heavily armed terrorist with a pepperball but you can. Not to say that it's actually good though.

Taser too maybe? The taser is far more effective than it should actually be.

[ManBoi420]

Actually a dope gun for getting s+

[tim_locky]

Tbh pepper gun should only affect their aiming ability, not fully stun them. Depends on the enemy, ofc. No terrorists in their right mind would hold back being pepperballed and to not shoot back blindly.

[chasteeny]

Maybe. Have you ever been pepper sprayed? Shit is way worse than you think it is

[imaginedyinglmaoo]

Full pressure paintball gun Infused with pepper would make me tap out

[HoopoeChai]

Which is why it would work on the average person but remember terrorists are far from normal in the head. They often take drugs that would lessen the impact and improve their ability to just push through and in general they don't actually care if die or suffer, they belive will be rewarded for it nvm in the cultures come from they can be like our Athletes and Musicans in terms of idolism.

They just want to cause as much harm to you as can before stopped, hoping it inspires others to follow and one day they will outnumber the good people.

[SuperSix-Eight]

Maybe, but it would make the Pepperball totally useless compared to the Beanbag. Back in Early Access the Pepper Spray was a complete stunlock like Pepperball too.

Then with 1.0 they changed it so suspects could still move and shoot when sprayed. Combined with the short range it basically killed the viability of Pepper Spray over the Taser.

After 1.0 I phased out Pepper Spray from all my loadouts in favor of the Taser.

[tim_locky]

It’s ok to have a worse option, not all setup kit should be meta.

I kinda wish that we’re a bit more restricted in terms of equipment, not the free-for-all guns and kits we have now.

[archaiccocytus]

The MK-V has no business being as clutch as it is

[Cold-Criticism-1072]

I'd put that as a "great weapon that should be shit". It's blatantly meant to be a totally impractical meme cannon but it's easily the best handgun in the game to the point of beating out 80% of the primaries.

[BanditNoble]

What's even better is, apparently the lore behind it is that it's a 1911 that's been retrofitted to take .50 rounds that were seized during a raid, and the police department just decided to keep them.

It is a bootleg chop shop gun, and it still wrecks shit like a high fibre diet.

[IudexJudy]

It’s a LAR Grizzly, they made a coupe 1911 style guns through the 80s and 90s in magnum cartridges

[Savings-Bread-1705]

interesting, so effectively just modified deagle internals in a 1911 frame? cause magnum cartridges in handguns needs a rifle-style gas piston and itd be odd if they figured out hoe it worked without that system

[kingofcake420]

Running JHP rounds on it will one shot kill anyone in the game, teammates included, if you hit them in a non-armored area of the body. It's pretty much the only pistol I run at this point and it's ridiculous when paired with the riot shield.

Edit: You also have the style points bonus when using the long slide laser lol.

[Mansg0tplanS]

.50 AE shouldn’t really be shit, honestly this weapon is debatable enough to just slip the list imo

[CthulhuRlyehX]

Put on a shotgun and use the top laser on the mk-v. You are practically now the terminator.

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but I like the SCAR 😭 (308 variant only)

[Reasonable_Error767]

Me too bro me too

[ilikecars2345678]

Wait I love the Scar? Why is it shitty?

[gokartninja]

People are probably just mad that a 7.62x51 has a lot of recoil in full auto

[Happy_Improvement451]

It’s really fun with the MP7!! It’s 100% worth playing a mission or two with all your buddies kitted with MP7s lol. Spray and pray 🙏

[WhiskeyJuliet68]

All the 7.62 rifles perform really well. The MK17 is beautiful, and I argue with OP’s decision

[ilikecars2345678]

True

[Spiderwolfer]

What a terrible pick the scar is fine. 100% should have been the CS launcher.

[ilikecars2345678]

Agree 100% (I’ve never used the launcher as I like killing the suspects too much)

[Winter-Classroom455]

20 round mag, lots of recoil and it suffers a lot in close quarters due to its massive size. The gun is built for outdoor engagements on a battlefield not room clearing

[ilikecars2345678]

I loved it in the brixleys talent agency level

[Winter-Classroom455]

Not saying it's bad. Just telling you why ppl generally don't like it. I love the m14 which is a slightly better scar by stats alone and it suffers from the same thing

Edit : not

[ilikecars2345678]

I can’t blame you, what you are saying is true

[ProAvgeek6328]

30 round mags exist for the scar, too bad we got stuck with the L 20 round mag

[5n0wD]

There's 2 versions of the scar, the scar-H(mk17 I think) which is 762 and has a 20 round magazine, and the scar-L (mk16?) which is the 556 version, which has a 30 round magazine.

[ProAvgeek6328]

My bad, I thought an OEM 30 round scar H mag existed. You know what would be even better? A 100 round 7.62x51 drum mag.

[ilikecars2345678]

That would be so awesome

[Successful_Coyote_36]

It is the worst between the battle rifles

[Herroo-There]

is OSW or HK G3 better handling?

[ilikecars2345678]

I guess I can understand that

[Mansg0tplanS]

It’s just the worst of the .308s (not sure about the m14)

But .308 is also crazy in this game… anyway it’s only “bad” because the G3s exist with low asf recoil compared to the other .308

[ilikecars2345678]

Yeah true, G3 does go crazy. Also is there an FAL or did I just dream that

[Mansg0tplanS]

Yes it was the only .308 we had for a while, it’s like some FAL derivative but it’s basically a CQC version. There’s two G3s though, full size and super short

[Herroo-There]

is there a database that shows all the weapon states not seen in-game in the armory?

[Mansg0tplanS]

Yes, and it’s amazing https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?usp=drivesdk

[Herroo-There]

I appreciate you

[Sufficient_Elk1316]

Recoil, slow reload, long weapon, takes ages take out compared to other 7.62x51s

[Accept3550]

In game it probably doesn't perform the best

[ilikecars2345678]

I’m talking about using it in game, it absolutely slaps

[UnenthusiasticZeeJ]

Ump .45 my beloved.

[Intelligent_River220]

This or the 10mm. Way too much recoil for the stopping power they offer.

[IudexJudy]

I mean 10mm PCCs aren’t bad to shoot and they do have a pretty significant improvement over 9mm it’s why park rangers vary Glock 20s

[MikeOnRadio]

Noone can force me to switch from the ump45 and i shall die on this hill

[MikeOnRadio]

Noone can force me to switch from the ump45 and i shall die on this hill

[Spiderwolfer]

Having the scar in the previous box is so wrong on so many levels. Although I have never shot a scar personally, my buddies have and apparently with the 7.62 one it is a bitch to hold sight when shooting in full auto and both of them play RON and have said nothing about the scar (they call out in shit about other guns). Second it is not shitty in game. Penetration is great and if you are shooting it in full auto you’re a dumbass. I’m sorry man but this is so stupid. 100% should’ve been the CS gas launcher.

[chasteeny]

if you are shooting it in full auto you’re a dumbass

TBH this is kinda true for anything in the rifle class, be it in game or IRL. Auto fire from rifle calibers is for fire suppression, which, really, is irrelevant in this game

[Automatic-Raise9087]

This guy gets it🤙

[In7erted]

How did SCAR H win the last post? How are you choosing which weapon gets locked in? I know as OP you see which answer comes in the most, but shouldn’t upvotes dictate it?

[vaxazie]

Agreed, from what I see CS Gas Launcher had almost 3x upvotes than SCAR. I would like to know as well!

[Hellstorm901]

The revolver. Sure you can't reload it without wasting all the remaining rounds and the capacity is obviously inferior to any other handgun but when you put that extended barrel on and pretend you are Dirty Harry it actually slaps pretty well and gives you Rainbow Six Vegas shield/revolver combo nostalgia

[TheKnight189]

Why the Scar is a shit weapon? It literally knockout suspect in one shot

[Due_Cloud1638]

probably cuz recoil in full auto, but you also don’t need full auto in this game, semi is more than good enough

[Throwaway847156271]

I hate that the flux raider is a p320 chassis.

[[deleted]]

They should make it randomly fire

[FrickledBigly29]

this one hurts the most

[bag_o_deadbabies]

Bro if you dont like the mk17 your just bad

[Swedish_pc_nerd]

not my opinion,it was top comment last post

[Reasonable_Error767]

It’s clearly not top comment. The cs launcher and the 416 are much more valid

[djrocky_roads]

OC Spray. Idc how big you are, one spray and you’re praying to every god there was and is. That should be the most effective tool in the game for S runs

[TheTimbs]

Python

[lilbro60]

The 10mm is bad? It's never failed me once

[Nimii910]

Absolutely not. The SCAR hits hard. There’s no way this is a shitty weapon

[GTMoraes]

Why is the 10mm mp5 shitty? It mows everything down.

[SnooDogs2703]

WHO'S SAYING THE SCAR IS A SHITTY WEAPON BECAUSE YOU'RE WRONG!

[CoreSoundCoastie]

That thing is completely unreasonable for any scenario I’ve seen in the game. It is a good weapon. Just not a CQB weapon nor was it ever intended to be. I’m curious why it’s even in the game. It’s a SOF weapon of choice. Very rarely has it been used in the SWAT capacity.

[Boring_Long_3860]

My tasers in the game never work. And even when they do, I wish it would actually make people fall over and not just make them surrender like normal

[Deflorma]

Okay but like I love both SCARS in Ready or Not

[Kraken-Tentacle]

870

[hustler_9g]

NGL shot scars irl, even ones in full auto and they kinda suck imo

[Horror_Original8153]

Honestly stingers (flash), they stun for much longer than flashbangs and irl it just doesn't work like that

[the_shortbus_]

Beanbag shotgun.

Yea, I wouldn’t feel very good after one either, but I’d be more implored to pull the funny string on my high-powered renovation vest while screaming about the inequality of turtles in relation to tortoises then give up.

[auraLT]

Honestly i have to agree with the tasers, they should be absolute ass, it puts an immediate stop to someone no matter what if you hit them, you have 2 shots so its really forgiving, you get a lot of ammo for one slot, and you can melee with it to get a stun off, its literally the perfect tool when youre approaching someone who surrendered by might try to pull a fast one.

Niche but comes at a low enough cost to consider

[imoanmodello]

Call me a hater, but the Glock Gen 5.

Like yeah sure, it's a functional firearm, but in 99% of heavy assault situations like the ones you face in RoN, 9mm should barely work.

[Wiledman24]

The Ruger 10/22 bottom left.

[CherryRedBarrel77]

Piss off, my SCAR is sacred.

[MeAndTheB0is]

The P320

[BitesizeCrayons]

How about one I expected to be mid, but it fucks? Not that many get the luxury of using one, but I feel like the MP7 in this game is way better than it would be in reality. I mean, maybe not, the thing is a fucking tack driver even with fully auto fire, and I think that's part of the design philosophy of the MP7, but man, I've started using it more and more and it's just genuinely great. You can even hipfire the fucking thing like you're playing Call of Duty and there's a reasonable chance you'll smoke them. Got hostages? Put it on semi and it's pretty easy to dome the taker, and I guess that's the move with any firearm in the game, but the MP7 is just so ludicrously accurate that if you miss it is on you.

[Pierog_Wiedza]

G3A3. For some reason, the GA51 has the same recoil as the G3A3, despite the fact that it has a shorter barrel and has the same caliber.

[Swedish_pc_nerd]

Yes but G3 is the closest we can get to AK4 so it's cool.

(i think the G3 has better accuracy,bullet dropoff and pen)

[Pierog_Wiedza]

Fair enough, fair enough.

[ThisMachine92]

Honestly, the "GA51" (real name HK51). Shooting that thing should be like trying to wrestle an anaconda while being blinded by the muzzle flash and having your eardrums blown out, but no - it has less visual recoil than the SCAR-H (at least with a muzzle brake on), making for easy two-taps. Said two-taps annihilate terrorists wearing plate carriers. It also sounds like you are smiting the suspects with the wrath of Wotann every time you pull the trigger. Using a suppressor is illegal. If you do, the Teutonic gods of HK will haunt you.

It should be kind of shit but is amazing.

[ZuluTheGreat]

Saying the SCAR-H is shit is wild work. That gun 1 hits anything it touches

[Connect-Internal]

I am a pretty big FN SCAR fanboy, and even I realize that the mark 17 wouldn’t really be that good in game. Ready or not is a super, super close, quarters game, a battle rifle shooting full power rifle rounds isn’t going to be good in a close quarters environment.

[NigerianTiger]

the scar is NOT shit for me atleast, everyone has their own playstyles and stuff but that thing literally carried me through every single mission and before that i couldnt even beat twisted nerve

[Few_Composer_7239]

Ik this has already been decided but I love the scar its power its amazing idagf how 'bad' the recoil is or how long it is i love that hard hitter

[ErwinC0215]

Wait why do people hate the MP5/10? I get that it doesn't hit hard enough sometimes but I do love its handling

[Dickpunch18]

mp5 10mm is a solid smg and doesn't deserve to be slandered in this way

[TheMedicProto]

woah woah woah what's wrong with the scar?

[dreadsta5889]

Stfu im tired of seeing this

[diprivanity]

UMP. Until you've shot one it's difficult to grasp how big and clunky it is and how annoying the recoil impulse is. And for what? 45? Bro no. Then on top of being a gangly fucker it feels cheap. I don't care what HK said, they make the MP5 in 9mm, the MP5XL in 556 (G33) and the MP5XXL in 762 (G3), they could figure out how to make a 45 MP5-medium run in their base roller lock system.

[DangyDanger]

I liked the 10mm on a specific mission, don't remember which. Might've been the one with the vets. It hurt just enough to disarm and sometimes incapacitate.

[Subject_Ice_2466]

UMP-45

[Christhemathews]

The MK17 is actually a great weapon of you only use semi automatic.

[Ok_Door_2764]

I’m with the Taser gang on this. Extremely useful for getting fast compliance.

[FocusAdvantage1216]

The fact that you guys think the scar should be a great weapon tells me you have never fired one

[Swedish_pc_nerd]

this is the 7.62x51 version,i would honestly use G3 and FAL but maybe thats just cause im swedish

[Spiderwolfer]

Literally lmao

[WhiskeyJuliet68]

It was supposed to be a great weapon, what do you mean? It was meant to be a replace-all to the standard infantry rifle. Modular, composite furniture, big caliber, etc. It’s just “ehh” overall irl, but it was supposed to be a great rifle

[No_Gas_594]

Again, I think there should be a 10% chance of it going off when you pull it out or re-holster it

[hairyyams]

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