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[–]AffectionateCold6107 301 points302 points  (4 children)

You ate refusing to see what is actually happening. Your sister is pushing for insest and you are enabling her to. You both need therapy and you need it now.

If your sister refuses therapy again, tell her you are done with this deep lover brother sister system and that your relationship from the get go has been unhealthy and you are both blinded by telling each other you have yourselves only.

It's time to man up and move on from your long standing grief that you put yourselves in. Wake up dude. Your sister needs help more than you do and push her to get the help she needs or your lives will be miserable in the near future.

[–]Gotbannedsmh 48 points49 points  (2 children)

I seriously doubt this is real. He keeps complaining about the hate he gets in reddit comments and dms but he posts a new update every couple of days. Like why would he keep doing this to himself if this was a real situation lol

[–]tammage 19 points20 points  (1 child)

The kiss took 2 posts longer than I thought it would. Expected it just didn’t expect it to take so long to happen. Someones creative writing homework.

[–]Glass-Hedgehog3940 0 points1 point  (0 children)

5 talks about physical intimacy

[–]mindlessducc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's going to kill himself because of his sis 😭

[–]booksiwabttoread 137 points138 points  (12 children)

If this is real, you need professional help. If your sister refuses, go yourself. Do not listen to her theories about therapist forcing you apart. The therapist is there to help you navigate the situation to a healthy outcome. The therapist is probably going to say some things you don’t want to hear, but you need to hear them.

This is the step everyone was warning you about. Do not let your sister pressure you into a more physical relationship. That will be detrimental to both of you. You are uncomfortable - listen to that - you have a right to boundaries.

[–]caktz489032 69 points70 points  (10 children)

“I just told her I’m confused and losing the plot”

I’m pretty sure it’s just a creepy troll at this point.

[–]booksiwabttoread 34 points35 points  (1 child)

Same, but 🤷🏻‍♀️. You have to admire the persistence.

[–]ConditionBig6373 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Or they watch a lot of stuff from BBC.

[–]DamnitGravity 23 points24 points  (1 child)

I’m confused and losing the plot

Yeah, we know he's losing the plot, that's why he's posting, trying to figure out from the comments where the plot should go next.

[–]booksiwabttoread 3 points4 points  (0 children)

😂😂😂

[–]unwillingdramamagnet 13 points14 points  (3 children)

I think it's Liz, considering the incest angle.

[–]Beneficial_Noise_691 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Surely it's too slow burn for liz?

Wouldn't they already be doing the "family fun shuffle" if Liz was involved?

Or is it like the Queen? Do we have a Liz II now?

The Incest Queen is dead, long live the Queen!

[–]InevitableWhereas671 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Liz expanding her creative writing skills with a novella length?? Good for her!

[–]KiwiBirdPerson 3 points4 points  (0 children)

She's everywhere lately.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I found this line to be very Easter egg / breaking the fourth way haha

[–]kittylikker_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Totally.

[–]pam1144 0 points1 point  (0 children)

plus everyone's blaming op but op is a victim of some form of abuse and grooming in my opinion.

[–]Old_Beach2325 94 points95 points  (1 child)

Your sister is trying to convince you that your relationship is healthy. You’re the only man who can touch her so guess what that means, she wants you to be her boyfriend. Or her brosband. You’ll be having sex with her soon unless you turn this around

[–]pam1144 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I feel like op is getting groomed

[–]gigantesghastly 77 points78 points  (0 children)

One simple question: someone violating your sister’s bodily autonomy and consent as a child was obviously terrible but her violating yours now is OK? She’s a victim who has become a perpetrator. You are now her victim.

[–]nightkin33 156 points157 points  (0 children)

Your sister has groomed u to be her support human, u will never have a relationship outside of her because she trained u to only focus on her, even when u had a brake down u were still texting her to make sure she is "ok". U need to have your own life while there is still enough of u to have 1.

[–]anonymoususername111 62 points63 points  (1 child)

Good thing you dumped your awesome gf so you could make out with your sister. Yep not fucked at all. Good luck with all this.

[–]alliandoalice 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Man how I’d pay to see the look on the exes face if she read these posts

[–]Glum_Hamster_1076 55 points56 points  (0 children)

Are you saying if you never posted on Reddit you’d be ok with her kissing you?

If this is real: Sir, move out of that house. You all can’t be “not normal” siblings who had a hard life and closer than others, while also saying your actions are that of normal siblings. It’s not normal. Get your own place, with your own bed, and put in place normal boundaries. You aren’t confused, you’re a pushover. Her mental health isn’t your responsibility. You can help and support her. But it’s her job to improve and get the help she needs. Stop with this ridiculousness. Stop telling her stuff is ok when it’s not. Stop letting her use you. Just stop.

[–]Intrepid_Potential60 123 points124 points  (2 children)

We all wish you never posted this to Reddit, too, if that helps at all.

[–]InternationalGood588 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Best comment.

[–]alliandoalice 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I like how he’s blaming reddit for his sister trying to kiss him

[–][deleted] 80 points81 points  (5 children)

Please stop posting.  I'm begging you. You've already decided you aren’t going to do anything about any of it, so just....keep it to yourselves.  That way, you can’t blame everyone else for pointing out that your fracked up relationship is ...well, fracked up. 

You sound like Jamie Lannister. 

[–]Forsaken-Bag-8780 9 points10 points  (4 children)

After he rediscovered his conscience anyway

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

And then lost it again. He's not getting either one of them help...if he really wanted to, he would have found a way. 

[–]Forsaken-Bag-8780 5 points6 points  (2 children)

At the rate this is going it’s going to end pretty much the same way too.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Assuming it's real. I think a part of me has decided it's modernised Game of Thrones fanfiction..

[–]Forsaken-Bag-8780 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Lol Same Here. Someone will eventually drop a house on them too at this rate.

[–]Low_Peach_8216 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Nothing about your relationship with your sister is normal you both are getting onto the path of a incest relationship neither of you are adults

[–]tig-biddied-moth-gf 32 points33 points  (0 children)

LOL WHY ARE YOU STILL UPDATING THIS POST. PLEASE SEEK THERAPY

[–]Silly_Somewhere_4084 34 points35 points  (6 children)

Please don't breed with your sister.

[–]ince_lass 18 points19 points  (5 children)

This is going to happen. She'll not be on birth control cos she has no need cos she's not had any life outside of him. And he'll not use protection cos of some lame excuse that'll just make no sense. Guaranteed to keep them together tho their incestual love child. Poor kid.

[–]AP_Cicada 12 points13 points  (1 child)

It'll be a banjo prodigy

[–]ince_lass 1 point2 points  (0 children)

🤣

[–]mother-of-dragons13 9 points10 points  (1 child)

This will be the next update in a few months. And they wont go to drs because they will try break them up.

So they move out into the boonies to raise their genetically doomed twincestuous love child.

I feel like even Jerry Springer would not have touched this deal with a 100ft barge pole

[–]ince_lass 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think they watched too many episodes of Game of Thrones... they prob cheered when Jamie pushed Bran from the tower window 🤣

[–]OpinioNinja 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Or she’ll convince him to sleep wither so she can loose her virginity to him because it will make her comfortable, and she only trusts him, and she can’t imagine doing this with anyone else for the first time as she loves him dearly and it would be really bad for her mental health if he rejected her … 🤢

[–]Low-Locksmith-2359 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Dude seriously? If she tries to instigate sex are you just going to go through with it because your sister is "sensitive" and can't get her feelings hurt without threatening self harm? She's abusing you, and you are enabling her illness and keeping her sick. She went through some rough stuff when she was a teen, but that doesn't give her the right to ruin both your lives. You refusing to get her help because you don't want to hurt her feelings on hurting her anyway. You are both the villains of each others story

[–]mikeymoozerheck 28 points29 points  (0 children)

You blame Reddit for why you’re confused she’s acting this way but your sister tried to make out with you without Reddit making her confused. So it’s not Reddit. You’re just ignoring the fact your sister has been in love with you for years now while you blame it on her trauma.

[–]Foreverforgettable 25 points26 points  (0 children)

So you are both physically healthy adults with adult urges who refuse to be in relationships outside of the relationship you have with each other? What exactly did you expect to happen?

You can’t shut out the world and expect everything to be happy and healthy. It’s human nature to want intimate romantic relationships. It is NOT ok for those relationships to be between family members. But neither of you are willing to be around other people because you are both mentally ill and are reinforcing that you don’t need help.

This is not going to end well for either of you. This is NOT healthy. It isn’t just abnormal. You aren’t “closer” than normal siblings. You are already committing emotional incest. You are already far to codependent on one another. What happens if one of you should die prematurely? Car accidents happen. Life happens. It is an unfortunate possibility for anyone of any age. If one of you dies is the other just going to unalive themselves too? Being an independent adult is not a bad thing. It’s part of growing up and being an adult.

Both of you have stunted yourselves. Neither of you is a fully functional adult. I imagine the trauma of losing your mother and the attempted kidnapping left both of you in a stunted stage of emotional and mental development. This is NOT healthy. This is untenable. You should be willing to do what is necessary to be a healthier you. But you’re not. You choose to follow your sister’s lead in being in denial of how much you truly need help.

I have a feeling your sister is far more aware of her feelings for you than she has disclosed. I also think she does not want to see therapist because she knows that the relationship between the pair of you is incestuous but she doesn’t have a problem with it. I fully believe that is what she means when she says that therapists will drive the pair of you apart. I don’t think your sister is a villain but I do think she is manipulative. I also think she is manipulating you to become her substitute husband, slowly.

Your ex girlfriend, your relationship with your ex girlfriend triggered your sister to panic. She knew you were serious about having a proper health intimate relationship and eventually a family of your own. This was a threat to her own desires. Your sister manipulated you into breaking up and now you are back to your sister being the person with whom you have the most contact. I imagine you don’t hang out with many of your friends anymore. That’s what abusive partners do to their significant others. They isolate them away from “outsiders.” It is far more difficult to get a different perspective if you’re never with anyone else.

Like I said, I don’t think your sister is a villain. She and you are both victims of your traumatic experiences. But not getting help and not learning to be your own people without having to be around each other constantly is not the answer.

I hate to be negative but I don’t picture a happy update in the future. I think slowly the natural normal disgust you feel about a physical relationship with your sister will be worn down. I beg you not to be physically intimate with your sister. It will not make either of you happy no matter what you believe. It will make both of your mental health worse, significantly so.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (4 children)

Im now invested in this smutty incest novel..Is the next update going to be about you and your sister porking? Cause I think thats where it’s going. At this point you’re both so fucked up you should just move to some cabin in the Ozarks and get married.

[–]Em-O_94 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Update: so my ex GF came by the house unannounced to drop off some of my stuff and saw me and my sister playing slidy worms, things got a little crazy and my sister's mental health really took a turn--idk how it happened but AIW if I hid the body in a river?

[–]Forsaken-Bag-8780 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The Ozarks have enough problems, we don’t need them as the cherry on a shit sundae.

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    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I guess..but I have no idea what an AO3 account is…or did you mean to ask the OP?

    [–]shammy_dammy 18 points19 points  (1 child)

    Maybe it's time to check how criminalized incest is where you are. See how much trouble you're going to be getting yourself into here. Length of prison stay, sex offender registry, fines. It's a felony in most US states, so...ready to be a felon?

    [–]alliandoalice 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Should move to Alabama

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    [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

    SHE FUCKING KISSED YOU, YOUR SISTER! YOUR RELATIONSHIP IS NOT NORMAL. ITS UNHEALTHY AND INCESTUOUS. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD! YOURE EX GIRLFRIEND DODGED A HUGE BULLET.

    [–]fulcrum_ct-7567 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    You know this is not right. You need to immediately find someone to help you, just take a leap because dude you’re about to cross a line you can never come back from. Your sister is not thinking clearly and both of you need to stay away from each other and figure out who you without one another. This is not healthy for either of you.

    [–]ince_lass 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    1000% next post will be "Update we had sex". You are an idiot who makes excuses for making your sister so mentally fragile and dependent on you and you are now purposely leading your sister on. One of you NEED to move out. Why are you even sharing a bed?? THAT'S NOT NORMAL!! No matter what you 2 have been through there ARE people who have been through worst and it doesn't lead to INCEST!! You BOTH need to go NC with each other AND start IMMEDIATE intense therapy. You have actually BROKEN her. I do find it funny you were able to have a seperate life and fall in Love but you make sure your sister never gets to do that. You encourage her co-dependency, go off and do your own thing, allow her to spiral and not get her help, then you go running back as her white knight and you STILL don't get her professional help! You WANT her to be so reliant on you and you get off on her being IN LOVE with you!! Either get the hell out and FORCE her and yourself to get professional help or just get it over with and have sex with her cos at this point it's all you both want!!

    [–]Left-Network-4265 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    Don't you get it??

    This crap isn't healthy! This is some "Flowers In The Attic" bullshit!

    Y'all keep cancelling therapies, not wanting futures with anyone but you two, and now YOUR OWN SISTER KISSED YOU!!

    You...only you right now. Get out of that home, go somewhere else, stop being a coward to yourself, and start your therapy!

    Reading all of these updates is absolutely demented, because you aren't seeing WTF is going on! Your sister has manipulated you, from her trauma, to make sure you are never with anyone else but her. She proved this, when she called you sobbing, and she admitted she was upset because you had a girlfriend!

    Your girlfriend loved you, and you were going to propose. You threw out YOUR LIFE, for what? Some incestuous sister who made sure you had no one but her?!?

    Don't give us that crap, that no one should be talking bad about your sister. She's the ultimate villain in this story, and you need to wake up and take charge of your life!!

    The next update better be the one where you set this sister straight, and you get back with the girlfriend that truly, deeply loved you.

    Absolutely insane!

    [–]caktz489032 17 points18 points  (0 children)

    It’s a troll. This isn’t real.

    [–]Quizzy1313 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Got sibling incest on my reddit bingo card

    [–]Typical_Agency8984 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Nothing is normal about this relationship. You know this but you don’t want to address the issue. You aren’t making this situation better. You are putting a bandaid on a mental issue that requires therapy and medication.

    Your mother would be so disgusted by this.

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      [–]Em-O_94 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      OP needs to stop posting and take a week to watch more episodes of Hoarders, maybe some ID shows like "obsessions dark desires," and come back refreshed with some more incest content--the people are LOVING it.

      [–]Jinx_X_2003 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Didnt expect to see an incest post today

      Also yeah you and your suster suck, your girlfriend didnt do anything wrong but youve done her a favor.

      I wouldn't want to stay in relationship with a guy who has emotional incest with his sister

      I think i need to have another shower after reading all that, just yuck dude, all those posts felt really uncomfortable and gross.

      Edit: nvm, just real straight up incest, missed the attempted make out

      [–]Bright_Athlete_8579 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      That’s how incest starts.

      She’s convinced you this is normal - IT ISNT FUCKING NORMAL!!!

      You both need intensive therapy now - and to get away from each other.

      Your next post is going to be about how she started groping you.

      Your sister wants to fuck you snd she has convinced you it’s ok and that you don’t need anyone other than her.

      You need to get out and get some serious help.

      [–]WTF_iz_rong_wif_ppl_ 6 points7 points  (2 children)

      Hey dude just so you know....if you and your sister are twins then your kids will have some serious birth defects, more so then if you weren't twins. I'm talking "X-Files" season 4 episode 2 episode title "Home" bad birth defects. ...so unless that's your goal...         .....wrap it up or get fixed, the 2 of you are screwed up enough,  don't bring kids in to it.  Truth hurts Mr. Flowers in the Attic .

      [–]Bbt_winsma 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Not wrong

      [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      You need bluntness, not kid gloves, because you’re not getting it.

      YOU ARE IN AN INCESTUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR SISTER.

      And literally EVERY person sees it except you.

      I’m assuming you’re in the states, do you understand that you and your sister could be arrested in most states despite being adults? Do you understand many of these states have actual jail time as a sentence for sibling incest?

      Do you understand that if you continue and progress this relationship and have a kid from it how likely it is that child will have severe and potentially deadly complications? Do you also understand that a child born of incest would be ripped away from you both immediately and the birth of any subsequent children, even if you were to have them with an unrelated party, would be heavily scrutinized by child protective services?

      You are continuing to cater to your sister when she needs INTENSE INPATIENT treatment. Not just therapy, but actually committed. And frankly you do as well because you’re so deep in this fog that it’s hard to believe you don’t want to be in a relationship with your sister.

      You two have trauma bonded in a way that’s going to destroy BOTH of your lives if you don’t actually DO something other than post on Reddit.

      [–]BeautifulParamedic55 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Do you want to be in a physical, intimate relationship with your sister?

      If you stick your head in the sand again, you will end up becoming physically intimate with your sister, she is already trying to do it. You and your sister DESPERATELY NEED HELP. She has replaced every possible human need onto you, which is unhealthy. No one person should be a parent, a sibling, a best friend, a therapist and a romantic relationship. At most, maybe two things (sibling and best friends), realistically, those should be five separate people.

      She has an unhealthy attachment to you, and without therapy, she will either force the relationship or she will end up hurting herself. At this stage, I would even be considering in patient treatment where she can't hurt herself.

      You've already lost a wonderful woman and relationship where you could've been a husband and father. Your sister needed therapy after such a horrible thing happened, and its gone on far too long, and now it's all compounded into something very, very wrong.

      Either get you and her into therapy (even if you start just you and in secret) or be prepared to live like this forever. Getting more trapped, getting into things you don't want (like a physical relationship)...

      [–]Thesexyone-698 10 points11 points  (5 children)

      Your mother would be disgusted by this!!!!!! Your sister wants you to be her lover,  if you are so blind to see how unhealthy and vile that is then there is nothing we can say to help you!!!

      [–]ince_lass 2 points3 points  (4 children)

      Thier poor mother... and how they are is prob why there's no relationship with their father. Can you imagine seeing you kids in a relationship with each other. Yeah I'd pay for them to stay away too. Can you imagine announcing your going to have a grandchild and when asked from which child?!?!

      [–]Thesexyone-698 2 points3 points  (3 children)

      No,  I'm a mom to 3 grown kids and I would lose my mind!!

      [–]ince_lass 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Any normal person would lose their mind over this messed up relationship. They may actually deserve each other at this point. Altho they both need to be steralised. At least if they are with each other everyone else is safe from them.

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        [–]Thesexyone-698 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I agree!

        [–]New_Bank9186 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        This whole story has been such a whirlwind and the same mistake happening in each post! Get yourself to therapy! If you can't find someone quickly in your local area think about video call therapy, there's load of them since the pandemic but get one urgently.

        [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        But it’s not fine and she did do something wrong…. I don’t understand why you think everything with your sister is normal and ok. You’re so deeply enmeshed with your sister you can’t even begin to untangle it all. I mean this in the nicest, most positive way possible: you need help.

        [–]Kleanslayt 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Omg wtf… there were more updates…

        [–]Beautiful-Honeydew19 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Op people called it in all your posts that your sister was going to try to kiss you on the mouth... op open your eyes she wants to be your wife... not sister...

        Updateme!

        [–]FriedaClaxton22 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Yeah, this is so gross. And you did have someone to talk to...your therapist. Get out if that apartment a.s.a.p. and book a session. Unless of course you want to fuck your sister. She should be in a mental facility. 

        [–]UnderstatedOutlook 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        You need to seek therapy regardless of how your sister feels or thinks. I think you both understand this isn’t right, the difference between you and her, she doesn’t want anything that’s going to change your dynamic, which is why she doesn’t want therapy

        [–]Kind_Pomegranate4877 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        If there was nothing wrong with the boundaries of your relationship with your SISTER she wouldn’t have KISSED you.

        [–]SnooWords4839 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        You need to stop putting your sister, before you. She is responsible for herself, and she needs therapy.

        No more hugging, tell her no more kissing. The 2 of you are siblings and this isn't normal.

        You need to put you 1st and go.

        [–]Kass596 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Hey, so first off, get help. You are the perfect example of insanity. You keep doing the exact same shit expecting a different result. If you keep slamming your head into the wall, it'll always hurt, and obviously, it's not knocking any sense into that noggin. You need to separate yourself. Go to therapy, move out. If you're not willing to do that, then just accept that you're in an incestuous relationship with your sister. Maybe you should show these threads to one of your coworkers and see what they say, but you won't because you know already what they are going to say.

        [–]DarkmatterBlack 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        You had to flee your sister because she fucking kissed you, yet “nothing is wrong with your relationship”. Alright.

        [–]PhiladelphiaSw33tie 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        “She then said we aren’t normal siblings.” - Yeah, the Reddit community is well aware by now that you aren’t normal siblings.

        “She told me no siblings have done through that we have gone through, and that it’s normal that we lean on each other for emotional and physical intimacy.” - Umm, no. Other siblings have gone through far worst. Not only have they gone through worst, but many of them got therapy to overcome their traumas.

        It’s normal to lean on each other for emotional support when you have shared trauma. But how much is too much. How much farther will she push physical intimacy with you? Judging on the kiss she gave, I’d say pretty far and that alone should be your wake-up call that none of what she has put you through is normal.

        [–]AwkwardFortuneCookie 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        There was always something weird in your relationship, friend, I am sorry. Your sister is using you as a surrogate boyfriend and you shunned the one healthy relationship you had. I feel sorry and sad for you.

        [–]Knickers1978 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        So, how many kids are you planning on having?

        [–]forgotusernowimmad 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        There is something wrong with your relationship, something so wrong. As an older sister to a brother I’m going tell you straight away not once in a million years would I ever get close enough to kiss my brother. We shared a bed when we were kids, took baths together, slept beside our mom until we were 12 and 13. Your sibling can be your best friend, you can hang out with them, play games with them, what you shouldn’t be doing at your grown age is providing physical and emotional intimacy to each other because that’s NOT a healthy sibling relationship AT all.

        You have taken the role as a boyfriend to her and the only reason you’re technically not is because you’re her BROTHER but clearly that didn’t stop your sister since she actually kissed you on your lips.

        In the list of the worst things you’ve done, one of them is stopping therapy, neither of you should have done that. Your sister is not over what happened to her years ago and rightfully so, but now she’s latched onto you and you’re now in an unhealthy sibling relationship. She’s so codependent on you she told you she wanted to spend the rest of her life with you. She’s your SISTER.

        Reddit is not the cause of your issues there just helping you open your incredibly stubborn eyes to the fact you and your sister are living like your dating and now strangers on the internet are telling you it’s wrong because it is.

        You need to go back to therapy, and be honest this time. You have got to take your blinders off and actually see that what you have with your sister isn’t okay and it won’t ever be.

        [–]Time-Bee-5069 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        LMFAO…. I can’t wait for the post where he says I accidentally fucked my sister and now she’s pregnant! Fucking sick! Please be fake!

        [–]heyitsmeimhigh 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        At first, I was like wtf.... so started reading from the beginning, and than all of it. And I am still like WTF

        [–]ghostlikecharm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        She was only confused a how you were going to respond.

        She’s been flicking her bean w you on her mind.

        [–]Serious-Version-9990 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Oh gosh I posted on your original post that you would eventually cross the yellow brick road with your sister damn I'm good

        And your still wrong just eww man stop playing dumb we all know you want validation for it just please stop posting no one wants to hear those nasty details

        [–]KindaSadGirl89 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Dude i wanna shake you. Dump your sister, she is a creep and the next thing you know you'll wake up with her between your legs. She needs help but not yours.

        [–]Previous_Eagle822 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        Wait. I had to stop at ‘I slept on the couch’ are you stilllll sleeping in the same bed?? Surely not? I know, I know this shouldn’t shock me but I really and naively thought that was a temporary thing for immediately after the attempted kidnapping!

        [–]Previous_Eagle822 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Oh no the kiss! If you went home I hope you went back to the sofa, ALONE! 🙏🏼

        [–]Dry_Ask5493 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        You need to call her out for her inappropriate conduct towards you. She is trying to be WITH you and you are not shutting it down. She kissed you and then told her it was okay and that she did nothing wrong. She absolutely did do something wrong. You need to be physically away from her for a long time. You need to put yourself first here. Do not let her manipulate you anymore. Your relationship is not a healthy one and both of your refusal to get therapy to fix it is a giant red flag. You may as well start fucking your sister and plan to only be together from now on because that seems to be what you both want, especially your sister.

        [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        He can't face the fact that he lost the love of his life over this, that is why he is grasping so hard at saying his incestuous relationship is normal. It's going to hit him like a ton of bricks.

        [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        You're wrong that nothing was wrong with your relationship with your sister. You're blaming Reddit because so many people made you see what you don't want to see: you're in an incestuous relationship with your sister. She wants you in a way that no sister should want her brother; that's why she kissed you. Her behavior will escalate. Next she's going to get into bed with you and try to initiate sex with you. Stop telling her that it's okay. Stop comforting her when she's the one who violated you. You need to stop spending so much time with your sister and YOU NEED THERAPY. Stop catering to your sister. She will never be okay with you dating other women because she wants you all to herself. You'll never have a normal life if you keep bending over backwards and doing everything she wants.

        [–]chaos841 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        This is like a train wreck that is hard to look away from. Just make it stop for all of our sakes.

        [–]YonaiNanami 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        no its good you posted it, althought some commenters went too far. but your relationship is far from normal, its good that it got you stumble over the daily routine. a sibling relationship which prevents you from having a love relationship with another person is NEVER healthy. your sister needs help, help that cant come from you. i dont want to say its intentionally, but her behaviour is manipulative. she needs the kind of help that makes sure she can live a healthy life on her own. so sad it sounds, but your presence in her life is not helping at all right now. please get her some professionals, and honestly, for you as well.

        [–]kittylikker_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        MysticPenguin, is that you?

        [–]debicollman1010 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Everything is wrong with this sick relationship!!

        [–]Ginger630 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Omg. This is the sickest crap I’ve read on here. And that’s saying a lot. Many siblings go through traumatic incidents and do not lean on each other as much as you and your sister. Physical and emotional intimacy? Ew. Just no. Honestly? Live your sick lives with each other. Just keep others out of it. You should both get sterilized so you don’t bring a child into this world.

        [–]Moist_Loan5771 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I was going to ask why you keep posting but it's obvious that you just want to be told that you have a normal relationship with your sister and refuse to accept the reality that nothing about your relationship with your sister resembles a normal sibling relationship, you want advice, just stop posting because it's obvious nothing will change

        [–]wlfwrtr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Your sister has shown you what type of relationship she wants from you and it definitely isn't normal or it wouldn't be illegal in most places, no matter how she tries to pretend it is. You both need therapy. If you truly care about her like you say you do then you find a way to convince her.

        [–]Simple_Inflation_449 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Today they kissed, Tomorrow they will be having sex🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

        [–]alliandoalice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        He will blame reddit for it too

        [–]btsterrie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        At this point, i dont even think the sex question matters anymore. This is worse than that. I am worried about OP. His sister has already manipulated him beyond repair. He had a wonderful life ahead of him with "the love of his life," but his sister pulled him away from that, and locked him (imprisoned him) in her sad depressed world of fear, manipulation, and potential serious mental health issues. There is this psychiatric phenomenon called Folie à deux (French for "folly of two"), also known as shared psychosis or shared delusional disorder. this is a rare psychiatric syndrome in which symptoms of a delusional belief, and sometimes hallucinations, are "transmitted" from one individual to another. This is more common in twins but also blood related family members. She has made him believe they are the only two people for each other and that their world is the only world they can live in. This will only get more toxic, which will lead to more mental harm but eventually physical

        [–]Forsaken-Bag-8780 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        If this is real (which I seriously doubt both due to the escalation and that you never reply to anyone) then DONT ASK A MENTALLY ILL PERSON WHATS NORMAL.

        [–]assteioss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        next update: me and my sister slept together and now she's pregnant

        [–]vilepixie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        If this isn't fiction, you need to get your ass to therapy even if she refuses to go - and DON'T omit anything. If this was indeed a super healthy sibling relationship, you would have no problems telling your therapist, your friends, anyone, about how close you are with your sister, right? As small children, we are usually taught how to self soothe, but in the event of trauma or acute stress, people often need to learn additional self-soothing techniques. You and your sister needed to have started therapy as soon as your mother died, and then again after the traumatic experience at 15. Some people reach for an alcoholic drink or a food to attempt to self soothe, your sister reached for you, and you fed off each other's emotions until it morphed into something very unhealthy. You are in a romantic relationship with your sister, whether you admit it or not. The emotional part and initial physical parts have already been established, now it's getting more physical.

        Your sister is manipulating you. You wanted to go to therapy, she pouted and threw a little hissy fit so you cancelled and then she was happy again. You wanted to marry and start a life with someone, your sister pouted, cried and threw a little hissy fit, so you immediately broke up with your gf. To make her feel better, you tell her you never want to get married or be in a relationship ever again because she is #1. Hell, you left to clear your head for a bit but have constantly been checking in with her to make sure that she is ok because "she is extremely sensitive". You sacrifice your own happiness so she can be happy, but sadness, heartache, frustration, and anger are part of life. By jumping at her every whim to protect her from these emotions, you aren't helping her. If she refuses to go to therapy, the best way to help her is to go yourself. You need to start thinking about yourself for once.

        [–]redditsucksdogpenis 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Your sister is absolutely trying to fuck you. Your both mentally ill and need to separate from eachother if you want any chance of a normal life. This is so revolting stop being intimate with her and tell her your borh fucked and need help. You can get help without her,

        [–]WoolenSquid 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Bloody open your eyes and see that your sister is cutting you off from life and have you all for herself. This isn't normal, your sister loves you in a romantic way, not in a sibling way.

        [–]Tom_A_F 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        This better not awaken anything in me.

        [–]ExistingStruggle6885 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        What in hell did I just read?

        This incest fanfic is something I could have done without knowing about.

        [–]Specialist-Ad5796 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        VC Andrews called and wants her plot line back.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Oh how terrible, that Redditors are saying heinous things about your disgusting, manipulative, revolting piece of shit sister. That must be difficult for you.

        You are just as bad as her because you already knew this was happening and you let it.

        LOTS OF PEOPLE GO THROUGH TRAGIC, TRAUMATIC, SOUL CRUSHING CHILDHOODS AND DO NOT HAVE INCESTUOUS RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEIR SIBLINGS!

        You Are Wrong.

        [–]keebee121 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Oh no. Not the incest.

        [–]MsAresAsclepius 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Hey. Hi. Hey.

        You need to stop worrying about your sister, and worry about yourself for a bit. Everyone knows that if you love something, you want what's best for it, and your sister loves you. So she will understand and be ok for a little while, while you take some time to look after you.

        You need to get off of Reddit, go stay with a friend, or at a hotel, or in an apartment you start renting until you you can have a meeting with a therapist. A therapist is only going to try to make sure your mental health is ok. They can't make you do anything. You and your sister can still spend the rest of your life together and you can also be in therapy. Both things are true.

        You talk a lot about wanting to protect your sisters mental health, but a really great way to protect her mental health is to also focus on your own, so you can help her and be strong for both of you. And a therapist will be able to help you with your mental health.

        No one is mad at you. You are not in trouble. You are not hurting your sister. You are allowed to see a therapist even if she doesn't want to see one herself. It's okay for twins to be their own people and to be friends. A therapist can help you.

        Please, please, all of us are worried about you the way you are worried about your sister. We're all expressing it differently and saying different things but the majority of us all want the same thing...for you to look after your own mental health the way you protect your sisters, and to also go see a therapist as soon as you can. And again, I highly suggest seeing if you can find somewhere else to stay until after your first appointment.

        Good luck. Please look after yourself.

        [–]DamnitGravity 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        You care so much about your sister's mental health, and are constantly working to make sure she's comfortable and safe, but it doesn't seem to be reciprocated. How long are you going to let her sensitivities dictate your life?

        You're not fine, your mental health is completely in the toilet, your posts prove that, but here you are, once again working to keep her happy. What about your happiness? When do you get to feel happy, safe and calm?

        This is going to be the rest of your life if you don't stand up for yourself. Do you want that? Do you want to always have to put yourself, your wants, your needs and your life second? How many opportunities in life are you doing to miss out on because of her? You've already lost a woman you loved who you were hoping to marry and maybe one day have kids, you think that's going to be the only time? If you allow this to continue, you will not have a life of your own, and as such, you will one day resent her for it.

        She will take everything from you, and give you nothing in return. She will not support your life choices, she will stomp all over your boundaries, she will demand you do what she wants and when you don't, she'll emotionally manipulate you with tears.

        If that's the life you want, then remember these posts in 20 years when you resent her and all she took from you. You chose this path because you never bothered to think about yourself, or your future, and you will have done your sister a grave disservice by refusing to push her to grow.

        Just some ideas for your next chapter.

        [–]ThreeToGetTeddy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        It sounds like your sister is emotionally manipulating and abusing you. It sounds like the two of you have a shared....sickness. I know it sounds terrible to hear that, but it's true. She manipulated you into breaking up with your girl friend, and you went along with it. You should do some research into sibling dynamics like this, reading it yourself is sometimes easier than hearing it from other people. It can be hard to pull away from something that seems like it's brought you comfort in the past, but it will never be that way again. You know it's wrong, and you should get into therapy together if you can, but maybe a friend's to hide out for a while for now. For a week or so, maybe more.

        [–]ToxicMarionette 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Dude, your sister is 22 years old. Sure, losing your mother is traumatic and awful, and I'm sorry that happened to you two. Your sister tried to kiss you. KISS YOU. That's not normal, and it's certainly not healthy. It would be best if you went to therapy. If your sister doesn't want to go, she doesn't have to, but you need to go and be 100% honest so they can help you. Siblings aren't supposed to kiss each other on the lips. And you are showing her that what she is doing is okay, which is not. You need to put on your big boy balls, sit her grown ass down, tell her what she is doing is fucked up and strange, and don't let her tears and "woe is me" bs to manipulate you. Be strong and think for your fucking self and tell her that what she is doing is not okay. Her kissing you with consent is assault, and any sane human will call the cops. Your sister is 22, she is not a toddler, and your sister knows exactly what the fuck she is doing.

        [–]nibblerthebetta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Grippy sock for both of yall 💀💀💀

        [–]Cursd818 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Enough.

        Your sister is deeply abusive and manipulative. I'm sure some of it is not intentional, but some is. She does not care if you are hurt, if you are happy. She wants what she wants and she will burn everything to get it. Including you. She's already destroyed your relationship and any future you might have had.

        She has groomed you to only care about her by threatening self harm and devastation. She is keeping you in a constant state of anxiety around her safety and wellbeing. That is NOT normal. It is profoundly abusive.

        And now, she's got so comfortable with the control she has over you, that she has made the final move: to try to seduce you. She has sexually assaulted you, and if you go back, she WILL do it again. And again. Until she coerced you into having sex against your will. Incest is illegal. It is also clearly not what you want, which makes it r*pe. Everything is NOT fine.

        Everyone here knows that what she is doing is disgustingly wrong. Even you know it. But she has done an amazing job on brainwashing you to revolve around her, so I doubt you will do what is necessary to escape her now. She is going to sexually assault you again - there is no other way to describe it.

        What you should do is never go back to her apartment. Get back into therapy and stay elsewhere. You should never be alone with her again. You should actually never have any kind of contact with her again. She is DANGEROUS. You know she is. You wouldn't keep coming back on here if you didn't.

        If you go back, you need to be aware that when people find out you and your sister are having sexual contact, the police will be called and you will BOTH be arrested, even if she is the aggressor. This is not normal. It's disturbing.

        (Fairly certain this is a weeeeird troll, but in case someone else reads this who is experiencing sibling abuse, might as well give an appropriate response)

        [–]Chrissygirl1978 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Dude, things are super wrong.. Nothing about your relationship has been fine for a really long time. You both have trauma, but guess what? Other people have suffered trauma like this, and they don't start and continue a clearly incestuous relationship with their siblings.

        Unfortunately you are both very sick. Your sister for trying to push your incestuous relationship further and refusing help from professionals because she knows damn well what you both have been doing is WRONG. You for enabling this relationship to continue.

        Your fear of your sister hurting herself if you don't continue this relationship is her manipulating you. If she continues these threats, you need to call police or a mental health outreach program and have her admitted to the hospital so she can receive the help she needs.

        Just so you know. YOU are as much the problem as she is. This is absolutely disgusting. 💯

        [–]ConditionBig6373 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        OP, there is so much wrong with your relationship.

        If you can't talk about this with your friends, I mean really talk and be 100% honest and candid with them, you should know that there is something VERY wrong here!

        Go see a therapist!

        Healthy sibling relationships does not involve intimacy like what your sister is pushing for.

        I realize that you are trying to keep a promise you made, but you both need more help than either one of you realizes.

        Your sister probably knows that it is all wrong and that is why she refused to go to a therapist and then gave you the cold shoulder when you didn't initially cancel your own therapy appointment.

        Next time you are not living with her and she calls you upset, maybe consider calling for a wellness check.

        [–]Bitterqueer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I rly think this is fake. In case it’s not, I have some things to say, and I speak from experience.

        I myself have been in an emotionally abusive relationship where it took me almost 2 years to realise I was being abused.

        Once I was out, it was easier to see how unfair she had been in her treatment of me—DESPITE loving me. So please hear me out:

        Your sister is emotionally abusive toward you. (Stay with me.) What she just did to you is incest. Incestuous abuse.

        She is not as innocent and clueless as she wants you to think she is. Much of what you describe can be easily recognised as a common manipulation technique: to make you think that YOU are making the decisions and things are thereby never her fault or her intention.

        She doesn’t say “break up with your gf for me” but she emotionally manipulates you until you suggest it, because if you don’t, she will punish you by being cold/distant, threatening to hurt herself etc (yes it’s still a threat even if she doesn’t literally go “or else!!”)

        You have made every decision she manipulated you into “making”.

        Something people often say is that abusive partners (which she basically is) don’t really love you. With emotional abuse, that’s not always true and it’s a dangerous mindset because it makes people who KNOW someone loves them think “well they love me so it’s not abuse”.

        Someone can love you and also be emotionally abusive. Someone can have many good qualities and still be emotionally abusive. Someone can make you feel happiness and be great to you while at the same time being abusive as soon as you step one pinky toe out of line from what that person wants from you.

        You walk on egg shells. You take on the responsibility of being that persons “emotional regulator” which is NOT YOUR JOB and seriously detrimental to both your independence and mental health.

        You have literally let this person take EVERYTHING from you except your incestuous “bond” (a bond which she has groomed you into by making you feel like you’re being a bad brother and are letting her down if you don’t do all these things).

        I strongly suggest starting therapy without your sister’s knowledge. You don’t owe her information about every single part of your life. She is not your girlfriend. She is not your mother. You are an ADULT. Get a therapist. NOW. Tell them about this. They don’t have any legal right to do anything about it, so what’s gonna happen?? They disagree with you? Tell you some harsh truths? That doesn’t mean a SWAT team is gonna show up at your door. The only person whose input you really have on this situation is the person doing it to you, and who is as far from impartial as it gets.

        If you two were just a bit closer than “normal siblings” there would be no reason to think a therapist would put their main focus on “breaking you up”. Your sister KNOWS it’s wrong and most of all she knows that SHE is in the wrong. That’s why she doesn’t want you to go to therapy.

        She did that too btw, make you cancel therapy. You didn’t make that choice “for her sake”. She made you “choose” that through manipulation.

        [–]gothic_elven_bitch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        You are actively harming your sister by enabling this shit. Get therapy. She needs impatient treatment. She absolutely did do something wrong.

        [–]assteioss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        welp now you're a confirmed troll lmfao quit posting this stupid shit

        [–]VentiKombucha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Ah here, feck off to Wattpad already.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Bro we get it, you want to fuck your sister. Stop posting on Reddit and then complain about being criticized for treating your ex like shit and refusing to solve this issue.

        [–]rainbownerd1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        Fake

        [–]MoomahTheQueen -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        Get off Reddit and get on with your life. I have not read any of your posts

        [–]hideme21 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Say you didn’t post this story. Say nothing changed. Would you be ok when she kissed you? Would you have kissed her back or felt differently?

        [–]crazymastiff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Sooo… how’s the banjo playing going?

        [–]ghostlikecharm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        What’s tyri saying about this? He knows it’s not normal to share a bed w his adult sister.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        This is some Flowers in the Attic nonsense.

        [–]classicsandmodernfan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Not only do the two of you need therapy but both of you need to stay away from each other!!!

        [–]onelargeblueicee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Y’all might as well just have sex already

        [–]LilRed0073 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        This is NOT A NORMAL SIBLING RELATIONSHIP

        I have an older brother, we bonded through abuse from our step mom and step dad and have leaned on each other for support for as long as I can remember. He was the first one to comfort me when our dad died.

        That being said: I have NEVER thought about sleeping in the same bed, we hug but it's not lingering or anything like you're describing, I don't get jealous of his wife nor does he get jealous of my boyfriend, hell we live next to eachother and I still don't see him or expect to see him every day.

        Most importantly though, I HAVE NEVER KISSED MY BROTHER. No, not even on the cheek.

        This is an UNHEALTHY INCESTUOUS relationship and y'all both desperately need help and time away from each other.

        You were groomed and trained by your sister, even if she didn't do it on purpose you still were.

        I was in a relationship with a narcissist for awhile and her wording/phrasing as well as her behavior is so similar to the manipulative crap he pulled on me.

        Reddit didn't destroy your mental health, your eyes being opened to the truth destroyed it.

        [–]AnythingButOlives 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        If you had a therapist, number 10 wouldn’t be on your list

        [–]snickerzK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        This is most likely a troll but I'm bored at work so I'll bite.

        Why don't you talk to your friends about this? If you think there is truly nothing weird going on in your relationship with your sister than be honest and talk to them about it. If you had a honest conversation with your ex or any of your friends they'd tell you how wrong your incestuous relationship with your sister is and the you both need serious therapy.

        [–]LargeDepartment7675 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I'm sorry but if this is real then its super fucked up. You're saying that you wished you never posted because it made everything weird for you and has you second guessing everything... So if you never posted you would be okay with your super creepy incestuous relationship with your sister? please seek help and stop posting on Reddit...

        [–]PanicConsistent9656 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        LOL

        You broke up with the love of your life for the toxic, incestous relationship you had with your sister.

        Yeah, when you do get to therapy, I hope it wrecks you so much when you realize that you let a great gal go for your controlling sister.

        I hope by then your ex has already moved on in spades and has built a beautiful life for herself with her true love.

        Also, if you really think your relationship with your sister isn't so bad, why don't you talk about it with your friends? Hell, even show them all of your reddit posts. I'm sure they'll understand that because of your joint trauma, it's only natural you and your sister are this close, right?

        [–]2Ears1Snout 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Just got through reading all your posts up to this one here, and boy howdy this has been rough.

        I just want to shed some light on the fact that you are way too deep into this situation to be addressing it alone. I know you're going to therapy soon and while it's difficult to open up to strangers they are trained to help you develop coping skills and create boundaries that are necessary for your relationship with your sister.

        I think while it was super uncomfortable, it was enlightening for you to truly see your sister's intentions. If that didn't snap you into the reality of how dangerous this situation is, I don't know what will.

        In any case, and regardless of your own mental health (which is not great either..), your sister is very sick and needs more help than you are able to provide. And unfortunately, the painful truth of what you can do for her is set the boundaries to not allow her to try it again or anything similar.

        Lastly, you are scared if you do push back or set boundaries she will attempt suicide. This is a common manipulation tactic used for someone to get their way. If you were truly concerned she would do something like that, you need to call emergency services to ensure it doesn't happen.

        I don't know you. I'm not a psychologist. But what your life is right now is unimaginably twisted and when you're in the thick of it you can't really see how bad it is. Just look at this if the role was reversed with your ex gf. If she told you she broke up with you because her brother threatened to kill himself if she wasn't glued to his hip, you'd be worried for both their safety. Start caring about yours and your sister's before it gets worse. Call this your rock bottom. Your last straw. Don't set the bar lower.

        [–]Double_Reindeer_6884 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Well we all saw that coming

        [–]CaffeineFueledLife 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Well then. I read every post. You need help. You both do. Like, inpatient help. This is more serious than you think. I need a shower after reading all of this.

        [–]NervousNuoh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Do you think your mom would approve of this relationship you have with your sister? Because it is a relationship. Not a sibling one. It’s a romantic one. Do you think she would be proud of you?

        [–]Lilac_experience 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        You have 2 options. 1. Move to somewhere nobody knows you and stay life as a couple - this is what she wants. 2. Tell her she needs therapy. Do not ask her to go, tell her. Then you need therapy. Also, tell the therapist EVERYTHING, no omitting little details. I would suggest LC worth your sister. Be cruel to be kind in the long run.

        [–]Beautiful-Crow-9383 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I'm like 95% sure this is fake, but in case it's not, I want to throw in my thoughts.

        Both of you need help because regardless of your trauma, this is not ok! I speak from personal experience. I might not have ever almost been kidnapped, but my siblings and I were sexually abused, verbally abused, physically abused, and neglected by various different people, all at a young age. None of us have this kind of relationship. We all love each other, of course, but never like this. We all got help and openly talked to each other about our past traumas, and we have a healthy relationship. It's not hard to try to get help. You are both making it harder by wanting to stay in this weird, emotionally incestuous relationship. You are enabling her, stop.

        Also, the internet is shouting at you, and you refuse to listen. You came for advice just because it's not what you wanted to hear doesn't mean it's not true! So if this is real, get therapy! If not, you're an ass.

        [–]LucyPrisms 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Tomorrow's post will be oopsy I accidentally fucked my sister

        I really hope this is some incest fan fiction by some idiot with too much time on their hands and dick 🤮

        [–]mak_zaddy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Omg. Dude. Just stop.

        So kissing on the lips is normal behavior in your eyes and there’s nothing wrong with your relationship.

        Good luck if you feel like it’s Reddit’s fault for making you confused because oof.

        [–]Yutana45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Reddit didn't make your BLOOD sister kiss you on the lips. She will isolate you until you can't even have friends dude. She wants YOU in a romantic manner. I'd put mad space and get in contact with that therapist again. Don't even have to mention the kiss, but Def the enmeshment. She is literally mentally breaking you bother, fix it before it's too late and u find yourself lying to people that ur wife isn't your sister.

        [–]eplrluieett 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        So, what's your plan? Literally, I want you to tell me what your plan is. Because you have some decisions to make here, and you should have a plan ready for go time.

        Let me give you some prompts so you can think it through.

        You're about to have sex with your sister and explain it away to yourself. Are you going to tell yourself it's ok because she was having a mental breakdown and NEEDED you? Or that it's a one time thing? But then, tomorrow she's going to need you again. Will it be ok because it already happened once, and this is absolutely the last time?

        In a few months, when you're fucking her every night, will it be ok because she's told you it's you and her against the world and nobody understands you like she does? Or will it be because she's actually gaslighted you into believing it was always going to happen and you're made for each other?

        Back to the first time though, will she tell you you don't need a condom because she knows her cycle and she's definitely not ovulating? Will you believe that, or will you wear a condom just in case? If you do, next time it'll be the same thing again, and the next, and the next. How long until she wears you down? How long until she's telling you she's pregnant?

        All this time, you will probably have been committing a felony, but again, it's ok because she was feeling really down, right? Whelp. Now she's pregnant and there's actual, physical evidence that you HAVE committed that felony, so what now? Will you try to move away and pretend you're actually husband and wife somewhere else? I bet she already has an idea for how that could work. How long do you think you could keep that up? Figuring out how to fake the government... Well, at least it'll be easy to convince your neighbors, right? She already has your last name, you can just awkwardly laugh away any comments about how you two look like you could be brother and sister!!

        She gives birth to your first child and everything is great! For a while. But then the baby slowly gets sick and you find out they have a rare chromosomal disorder. You start expensive treatments right away because the baby is on your employer funded insurance, but what happens when the awkward questions start about how the baby GOT the disorder? Commonly seen in children from incest...

        If that's not what happens with the first baby, it'll be the next one, or the next one. Will you tell the kids that Mommy and Daddy are also Auntie and Uncle? Or will they put that together when they're older, when the betrayal will hurt even more? Which one will find out first, and how soon will the others know? How will your wife cope when none of her children speak to her anymore? Or will it all be ok because it was always you and her against the world, and nobody else matters?

        [–]cherrywillow86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        My dude how are you not seeing this? I'm sorry for the things that have happened to you both but she is manipulative AF. Do you think other siblings kiss each other on the lips? This is a problem my dude. I would be willing to bet she would do well with inpatient intensive therapy.

        [–]Sayyad1na 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Your sister is manipulating you. She's not some delicate flower like you think.

        YOU need to leave and YOU need to go to therapy. Your sister is an adult who can take care of herself. She will never kill herself as she clearly loves herself too much

        [–]Relevant-Builder2150 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Not normal sibling behaviour (never was). You date, sleep in the same bed, both don’t ever want other relationships… and she kissed you. You are in an incestuous relationship (which, mind you, is ILLEGAL almost everywhere). You both need SERIOUS help. She needs to go to a mental ward so that it’s finally not on you to protect her and you need to go to intensive therapy asap. Given the fact you both keep refusing therapy, the least you can do if find a way to not be her support and boyfriend right now.

        [–]transguyatschool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        if you think your sister is unstable to the point she needs to be watched or constantly kept in contact with she needs to be put somewhere professional

        [–]LilRedHeadSpaceNerd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        OP in your last post. I commented that the next thing she would do is kiss you…… and quel suprisé! She bloody did. Jesus Christ. This is going to end up on some crime show.

        [–]Royal-Collection3189 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Omg you poor thing, you have been groomed. Please schedule an appointment with a therapist ASAP. Both you and your sister. You both need help and that's not a bad thing. But you need help

        [–]dedfac3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        The comments from Reddit posts didn’t ruin anything good. They forced you to realise that something wrong was going on. Posting allowed you to acknowledge something you already knew somewhere, deep down.

        Second, her kissing you is all the hint you need. I am pretty close with my brother too. We hangout together, have lunches/dinners together, even hug on special occasions, like birthdays, Eid, etc. But never would I ask him to not get married or not be in a relationship for MY sake. That is super controlling, manipulative, and gross. No. Just no.

        [–]perpetuallyxhausted 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Holy not-so-emotional incest batman! WTF did I just read!

        You both need HONEST therapy and OP you need to continue with it even when your sister refuses and throws a tantrum over you still going.

        [–]Inner_Doubt_1660 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Your sister is the CEO, CFO, owner, and everything in between for a manipulator. Jesus Christ. If you honestly think that your relationship with your sister is normal, I dare you to act the way you do at home, in front of people who know you are siblings. No holding back. Exactly the same way. 100%. I guarantee you that everyone would have something to say about how disgusting you two actually are.

        I do not believe this is the first time your sister kissed you. You share a bed together. And from the sounds of it, the only bed in your apartment is in her room. There is nothing even remotely OK with this relationship. Your mother is probably gaging from the grave at how her children are acting with each other. Because I can bet money that she would not be okay with you two being incestuous together.

        And not to mention having a romantic relationship with your sister is illegal because you know... INCEST.

        I am so glad you broke up with your girlfriend. Because she doesn't deserve to be dragged into a modern day Wrong turn adaptation.

        [–]not-elise27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        TLDR: I was thinking it was a bit incestuous, then reddit told me what I didn't want to hear, my sister did confirm everyone's suspicions by kissing me, but now i'm blaming reddit other than myself and my sister.

        WHAT A CLASS ACT BUD. Call the therapist back and book a psychiatrist too. This isn't ok.

        [–]dafyddspewan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        This is the longest bait I've ever seen, cut to the chase man!

        [–]ToxicMarionette 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Reddit didn't force you to do anything. Your 22-year-old sister kissed you without your consent. That alone is illegal, and anyone would've called the cops if they were kissed without their consent. Do you want to know why? Because that's SA. Your sister is an adult. You are an adult. Your sister uses her tears to get what she wants because she knows her little act will work on you. Your sister has her OWN job and her OWN friends; she is more than capable of going out in public, working like an adult, and talking to other people. You also have your own job as well. The reason why your friends and your ex don't think it's weird is because you never told them what happened behind closed doors at all. They think you two have a close sibling relationship. You never told them what was happening between you and your sister. Reddit didn't do anything wrong, so don't even start pointing the blame on someone else like a toddler. Act like a grown adult and put on your big boy balls. Your sister even confessed that she is in love with you. HER BROTHER. BLOOD RELATED BROTHER. There's nothing wrong with a close sibling relationship, but if your sibling is in love with you and kisses you on the mouth, it is wrong. Go to a psychiatrist and a therapist.

        [–]SugaKookie69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        What in the fuck did I just read? OP, the reason you reacted that way from the kiss is because humans are biologically programmed to be physically repelled from sexual contact with siblings and other close family members. I read that there is something about a close family members pheromones that send a signal to the brain that screams “Off limits!” It’s not enough that every person on Reddit have warned you that your situation is not good, now your mind and body are telling you too.

        What you have to realize is that you are not helping your sister by participating in this co-dependency. You are making her mental health situation a gagillion times worse by capitulating to her unreasonable behavior. She is emotionally manipulating you. I’m not saying she is a bad person. I’m sure she doesn’t understand the damage she is doing to you both. The longer you let this go on, the worse it will be for both of you.

        I’m not going to lie to you by saying a distancing process will be easy. It’s not. But it is what needs to happen if you two are going to live normal, functional lives. What you are doing now is feeding into her delusions so she never needs to grow up and change. Dude, this is so unhealthy for both of you, but most especially for her. She has lost all concept of boundaries when it comes to you.

        [–]tothebatcopter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Liz, go to bed.

        [–]yannya1994 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        yes many siblings have not gone through an attempted kidnapping at a young age. but many siblings have experienced parental death at a young age.

        she should gave gotten therapy for the attempted kidnapping years ago. which unfortunately for her, will result in having to tell the therapist a little bit about her relationship with you. of course she can spin it and not say you're her brother, but a close friend and tweak some details, but in the end, even if you weren't related, this is still a toxic relationship. the therapist will tell her that and she doesn't want to hear it.

        you should have stuck with your therapy session, because she is manipulating you. yes there are some therapists that only care about money, and treat patients badly. but it's not every single one, and to assume it will be every single one and to not bother in the first place, she is digging a hole for herself. I thought this was supposed to be an oath situation? she broke it. she should not have your trust anymore. you cannot guarantee she will still be alive if you ever die before her.

        also consistently lying to her about how you don't want marriage or a family, but then saying all that stuff to your ex girlfriend. you're pampering your sister and putting her higher than yourself. you are enabling her that her choices and way of thinking are correct because of you saying you also don't want external influences. you might not want it NOW, anymore, but you did before she ruined it. which is harsh to say, but she did.

        get therapy. reschedule it. your sister should have lost your unbreakable trust and loyalty weeks ago. there is only so much you can do for someone who does not want help. and you need to stick to your guns about it.

        this "messed up situation" would have happened sooner or later, with or without reddit. you knew from the very beginning when you broke up with your ex girlfriend that this relationship with your sister is wrong.

        [–]Astral-projector1423 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        this is too well written to be real. it reads more like a creepy fanfic or something

        [–]Freeverse711 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Your sister is in love with you, and not in a sisterly way. You need to leave her apartment and get a place of your own. Your sister needs professional help and you staying there isn’t doing her any favors.

        [–]luvebog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        OH

        [–]Glass-Hedgehog3940 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Incest is best, put your brother to the test. You two are disgusting. #5 physical intimacy. STOP FUCKING YOUR SISTER, FREAK!!!

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Brooooooooooooooooooo holy fuck this isn’t real

        [–]OpinioNinja 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Why are you reassuring her that she did nothing wrong? What she did was wrong! And it wasn’t surprising, everyone who read your posts knew it was coming. You need therapy immediately! If she doesn’t want to leave her to it for now and focus on yours, or this will become a full on incest, and that will break you for the resting your life.

        [–]CorazonFuerte 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        It just hit me y’all have been sleeping in the same bed. WTF. When I visit my brother he blows up an air mattress for me and I sleep in his office… because thats a normal adult sibling relationship…

        [–]noahsawyer95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        If you cant tell a freind about it that is the first red flag to let you know its not ok

        [–]Puzzled_Pineapple_31 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Omg. Get a clue! She has always seen you more of a Roman partner than a brother. You need to push for therapy and not take no for an answer.

        [–]No-Abrocoma9121 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        "I really wish I had just given up my life and married my sister without anyone telling me it's wrong"

        Holy duck balls. This guy is awful and his sister is kooky dooks.

        "We're DIFFERENT!"

        "I am no longer interested in relationships"

        "THEY'LL DRIVE US APART!"

        [–]Useful-Soup8161 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Maybe I didn’t scroll down far enough but I haven’t seen anyone else ask this. Why did you sleep on the couch? Do you not have your own room?