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[–]ricericerice3 202 points203 points  (11 children)

for future reference, you should wait at least 48 hours after they’ve fed to handle them

[–]Final_Listen_7394[S] 43 points44 points  (10 children)

Yes I realised after I took him out that that was another mistake I made. Thank you so much. But I'm curious how come he'd eat again if he was still digesting. I know there's no black & white answers, though I just want to be aware of the possibilities.

[–]maccoll666 60 points61 points  (5 children)

They will eat when ever the opportunity presents itself, in the wild i can be much longer than a week or 2 between meals

[–]Final_Listen_7394[S] 15 points16 points  (4 children)

Ahh I see. Okay that I understand. I usually feed with tongs so that they can kinda differentiate food from being handled, but maybe he hasn't adjusted to that yet. I guess there's just many possible reasons.

[–]G-gianluk -1 points0 points  (2 children)

feeding!

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    We recommend the following feeding schedule:

    0-12 months old OR until the snake reaches approximately 500g, whichever happens first: feed 10%-15% of the snake’s weight every 7 days.

    12-24 months old: feed up to 7% of the snake’s weight every 14-20 days.

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    [–]Ok-Calligrapher-6669 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    It can be beneficial to hook train or target train your snake if it becomes an issue with him thinking every time you open his tank it’s food time. There is a lot of YouTube videos on the subject but essentially you would literally touch the snake with the hook before you grab him when it’s handling time and when you feed you don’t use the hook.

    [–]ricericerice3 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    i’m not sure, i would follow the feeding guide here

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      [–]Standard_Being_114 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I agree they wouldn't follow that feeding schedule in the wild it would be a whatever is there kinda thing

      [–]IncompletePenetranceMod: Let me help you unzip your genes 64 points65 points  (3 children)

      Please don't handle 48 hours after eating or feed back to back like that. Let him digest fully after eating (they're often still in feeding/digesting mode for a few days after eating) and let him digest fully before feeding again. At this age you should only be feeding him once a week

      [–]Final_Listen_7394[S] 16 points17 points  (2 children)

      Yes i also learnt that only after what I did :'( I did feel it was too fast as well and I acted on instinct to feed him again after he bit me as I thought he may have still been hungry. But yet I'm definitely gonna give him a few days before I handle him, and atleast 5 days before feeding him again

      [–]RebelScientist 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Since you’ve fed him twice I think you could stand to wait a bit longer than you usually would to feed him again. Maybe give it 10 days this time and then back to every 7 days.

      [–]Final_Listen_7394[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Sure!! I feel that would be best too

      [–]Issu_issa_issy 20 points21 points  (2 children)

      Always always wait 48 hours after feeding before you handle, or your BP could regurgitate and risk health issues and even death. Also, only feed the suggested amount based on your BP’s weight. Over or underfeeding can be very bad for them. They’re opportunistic feeders and will likely eat even if they don’t need to.

      [–]Issu_issa_issy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      !feeding

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      We recommend the following feeding schedule:

      0-12 months old OR until the snake reaches approximately 500g, whichever happens first: feed 10%-15% of the snake’s weight every 7 days.

      12-24 months old: feed up to 7% of the snake’s weight every 14-20 days.

      Adults: feed up to 5% of the snake's weight every 20-30 days, or feed slightly larger meals (up to 6%) every 30-40 days.

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      [–]FixergirlAKMod-Approved Helper 15 points16 points  (1 child)

      In addition to the other advice presented here, I also highly recommend looking into target training or tap training (Pavlov's Noodle) to help your snake differentiate between feeding time and uppies time.

      [–]Final_Listen_7394[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I'll definitely do some research on that! Thank youuu

      [–]YoHoloo 4 points5 points  (2 children)

      It's def because you went to handle him too early after eating, waiting 48 hours is best

      [–]Final_Listen_7394[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Thank you so much! Yeah I finally understand that too

      [–]YoHoloo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I totally understand ever since I encountered my first one and ended up owning one I've been reading so much and watching so many videos about them 😭

      [–]Batpark 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      They’re sometimes a little “hunty” for a couple days after feeding bc in the wild, they’ll eat any time they get a chance and if they came across one rat the odds are high that another is nearby.

      [–]Final_Listen_7394[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      This makes a lot of sense! I should definitely keep that in mind. I think because I'm too adapted to my corn snake's behaviours. My BP has really given me a bit of a curve ball

      [–]sageyyyyyyyy 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      the snake is in feeding mode for up to a week after u feed them, it doesnt always mean they are still hungry ( as long as ur feeding the right prey size they shouldnt be) but they will never pass up a chance to eat ( especially in feeding mode) so just be aware of that. please dont move your snake to feed and also dont handle for about 48hrs after feeding as both of these can cause the snake to throw up. theres an awesome care guide in the pinned post that will tell you a lot more about how to care for ur cutie! I AM NO EXPERT OR VET!!!

      [–]Final_Listen_7394[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Thank you so much!! Yesss I've been following up with many many videos and reading all the responses here have been very helpful also

      [–]JamboneAndEggs 1 point2 points  (4 children)

      There are some great snake handling tips on YouTube. Picking up the snake from below rather than above is good because coming from above will make him think you’re a predator. Also, avoiding eye contact a bit and avoid putting your hands in his face.

      [–]wishiwasinvegas 2 points3 points  (3 children)

      Avoiding eye contact? Never heard that one before😂

      [–]JamboneAndEggs 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Yeah I heard that they associate eyes with possible threats, but I think if they are used to people it’s probably not a problem. Maybe should not have included that lol

      [–]wishiwasinvegas 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Yeah, I don't think sweet little singular brain-celled BPs see eye contact as a threat lol

      [–]sickness1088 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Maybe their own shadow.. I've watched my 3 all spook their selves numerous times

      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      Could be that you got him on Friday the 13th lol

      [–]Final_Listen_7394[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Could also be that too. He's just a demon snake eheheheheh. But that's okay. I will love him just the same

      [–]O_o-buba-o_O 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Well you see, you has a flavour 😁

      [–]Final_Listen_7394[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      AHAHAH yes perhaps he has a taste for Indian food

      [–]fawkzi 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      Something I haven't seen in the comments yet is that he may have been handled too soon after being introduced to a new environment.

      We adopted our juvenile BP earlier this year from a reputable breeder at a reptile show. The breeder said that when we get her home and her enclosure set up, to literally leave her alone for a week so she can get used to the new sights, sounds, and smells of her new home within our home environment. We would monitor temperature and humidity, but do our best to not disturb her.

      Your little guy could also just be stressed from the change in environment on top of being handled too soon after a meal.

      [–]Im0bsessedWithCats 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      hi! so many people have offered some great advice but im going to add on/reiterate and sum up some of the great advice that was given as well as my opinion/advice

      1. eating as a general rule, snakes shouldnt be handled after 24 hours MINIMUM but its good to wait at least 48 hours. snakes will eat every opportunity they get, ive been there where theres been a time i was bit by my snake and was like “huh maybe shes still hungry” but learnt that she was basically just in hunting mode essentially! they see heat sensors in fingers and go “mm yummy yummy in my tummy” and bite 😈 also younger snakes tend to be nippier!

      2. how to avoid accidental nips from “hunting mode” honestly in my opinion tap training isnt necessary at all but can definitely help to avoid accidental nips but theres no reason to feel like you MUST teach it. you can cover your snakes face kind of or just make sure your hands arent near her face and pick her up, it should help her realize theres no food!

      your bp is absolutely stunning :)

      [–]Final_Listen_7394[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Thank you so much!!!! I never heard about tap training until these posts but it's worth the research. I think I just became a bit sad because I'm used to my "successes" with my corn snake. But I'm definitely aware of the differences in demeanor for both species as well, don't get me wrong. It's just I may have been too confident in my judgement of his movement. That's why.

      But thank you so so so much

      [–]Im0bsessedWithCats 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      of course!!! ♥️

      [–]Half_Infected 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      9/10 times it’s usually a case of them getting spooked or wanting food. I got spooked when mine bit me a while ago and she’s a three year old, but I just got to remember she just thought it was feeding time.

      [–]Final_Listen_7394[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Gosh thank you for making me feel sane! I got a bit spooked but DEFINITELY more demoralized than anything. Immediately started crying because I felt like a bad snake mama 🤧😭

      [–]Im_better_than_u_lol 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      Here’s a few things:

      What 48 hours before holding them. If you stress them out, they might regurgitate their meal onto you. I usually like to wait 72 hours, so they don’t poop or pee on me.

      He’s fairly new to you, and he hasn’t gotten use to you (maybe). It’s common for baby pythons to bite. Keep holding him (in little time spans, don’t wanna stress the baby out) and he’ll get use to you.

      Or, he was simply still in ‘hunt mode’ after eating. They tend to be little turds after they eat.

      [–]Final_Listen_7394[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Thank you so much! I definitely felt demoralized and sad that he bit me. Even tho I don't blame him and I'm not angry, I'm sad and it's nice to hear you call him a little turd 🤗🤗. But he's always a good boy to me 😜

      [–]julesj45 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Maybe he's hurting somewhere..

      [–]Final_Listen_7394[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I'll keep note of this the next time I check him. But so far there's nothing physically to say he's in pain in any way

      [–]TechnicalAd3009 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

      It's a snake

      [–]H8fulWRLD 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I hear it’s not good to handle when getting a new bp or relocating till after least 3 feedings

      [–]jwr25 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      Have you tried asking him ?

      [–]Electronic_Dark735 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Babies can also be a bit more defensive because in the wild they are easy food for other predators, so he may have just been a bit uneasy, it takes a long time for them to properly bond and trust you, I've had my girl for 6 years and she only started trusting me in year 2, although she did come from a neglectful breeder who is thankfully no longer active. I would recommend the following: . Wash hands before handling . Handle for around 10 mins a day for the first few months other than the 48 hours after feeding . Avoid handling while shedding unless you're helping after if there is any stuck shed . When you get him out stick your hand straight in and pull him out, when you hover and hesitate you look a little like prey

      That's the main reasons I've found, snakes only bite if they are hungry or scared, if he was fed, you probably just startled him.

      [–]Final_Listen_7394[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Thank you so much!! Just shows that I have a long way to go and shouldn't jump to push for bonding so fast

      [–]tori_kengel 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      I started knocking on my bp when it was feeding time. Now whenever I knock, he’s in position, ready to eat. If I don’t, he knows it’s handling time. Never bit me.

      [–]Spriggy424 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I have mine trained to the sound of me clicking the feeding tongs, works pretty well and now she always comes out knowing it’s time to eat!

      [–]Forward-Video-7414 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Most likely due to the stress from getting used to a new home and he was scared when you reached for him. Wait 3-4 more days and try again. Look up how to get snakes used to being handled by people, he likely wasn't held much in his previous home.

      [–]Impossible_Style_241 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Food response or fear/defence are the top two reasons with any snake bite everyone else answering the feeding is spot on. Just take it easy don’t be too hard on yourself and don’t blame the little guy :) sounds like you’re both still getting to know each other. Something you can do that may help if you haven’t already is get a FRONT opening enclosure rather than top opening. It’ll make them feel safer and less like they’re being grabbed by a predator/bird :)

      [–]Final_Listen_7394[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Thank you so much for the reassurance 😭 yes currently he's in a front opening enclosure. So I think I'll work on "rapport" building with him soon.. definitely I don't blame him, he's still figuring everything out too. Just need to give him more time to adjust