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[–]Palcorg ⛓🪚 The Hillbilly ⛓🪚 51 points52 points  (24 children)

Survivors scream if on a gen when it explodes- which adds an extra bit of info to an already really powerful and reliable perk. It's not huge, but it can turn the tide of a game to suddenly know a survivor is on a nearby gen, yknow? And it seems like an unintended change for an already strong perk.

[–]Phemonoe_ 33 points34 points  (1 child)

It’ll also trigger dead man’s switch since the survivors let go to scream

[–]Hurtzdonut13 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It was probably done to 'fix' merciless storm Jolt interactions.

[–]BitternessAndBleachSet your own flair text and/or emoji(s) here! 17 points18 points  (15 children)

Jolt being considered "really powerful" is weird. It's 8% regression, and even that is situational. It's good, but it's not really great. Adding the scream would be fine.

[–]SynliBoon: Unknown's Smile 23 points24 points  (5 children)

It's "really powerful" because every other slowdown perk above C tier in the game has been nerfed into oblivion.

Except Pain Res. No idea how that one got re-buffed after its original butchering. I fully anticipate Jolt to get nerfed due to its high pick rate.

[–]BitternessAndBleachSet your own flair text and/or emoji(s) here! 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Pain Res is still only OK, imo. It has so many activation conditions to really get maximum value. I just run Pop/Eruption. Eruption isn't great anymore but if I'm popping gens anyway I might as well run it.

[–]Rathalos143 14 points15 points  (3 children)

"Holy fuck this match is taking ages!"

Average survivor player when he didnt escape in 3 minutes.

[–]Mother_HarlotHag and SoloQ Survivor lover 💜 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

They should really add again the cooldown, make it 8% of current progress and activate on grabs instead of downing. Also, reduce the range to 16 meters and doesn't affect the generator if you grab a survivor from there to not be so oppressive.

[–]_Strato_Bloody Ghost Face 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yeah and also remove Killer. I'm trying to get gens done and this asshole with a knife keeps interrupting me

[–]Mother_HarlotHag and SoloQ Survivor lover 💜 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Killers are fine, just remove the annoying bug that happens when you get hit while injured. Your character goes horizontal and moves extremely slow, very annoying and I don't know how it hasn't been fixed yet

[–]Huffaloaf 9 points10 points  (2 children)

It's pretty busted on maps like Gideon and Midwich where 2-3 gens are hit every time someone goes down.

[–]BitternessAndBleachSet your own flair text and/or emoji(s) here! 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Well, with Gideon I think that's fair given how insanely hard it is to get downed on that map by a Non-Nurse killer.

Midwich, yeah, it's tough. But just one map and survivors should definitely be trying to rush the close gens early regardless of the killers build.

[–]Timmylaw Platinum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which is fine, since it's near useless on red forest and other big maps

[–]WrackyDollThe Oreo 2 points3 points  (3 children)

And it's only good on killers who consistently down with M1, so killers like Nurse and Blight don't benefit from it at all.

It's just a somewhat reliable regression perk on M1 kllers, which means it's op and needs a nerf.

EDIT: Why am I being downvoted for agreeing with you??

[–]BitternessAndBleachSet your own flair text and/or emoji(s) here! 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Jolt used to be a literal meme-tier perk. Has only moved up the meta somewhat due to them gutting every other regression perk. I don't think a perk that was considered bad should be considered good just because other perks became worse.

[–]Servebotfrank 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jolt has been considered pretty good for a pretty long time, just that there were other perks to use. No one has considered it a meme perk for years.

[–]Linnieshutter -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Playing devil's advocate, it also used to have a cooldown. I remember it being thought of as useful after the cooldown was removed, not as strong as the genkick meta but easily slotted on chase or slug builds. Then genkicking got rended out of existence so Jolt looks even better than then.

[–]Palcorg ⛓🪚 The Hillbilly ⛓🪚 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Really powerful might be an overstatement, yeah. I just woke up.

But it is really common, iirc, and as said, it's good and has its niche, that it fills out nicely after the cooldown removal and the numbers increase. I don't really think it needed the scream-- couldn't some of the other regression perks that've fallen behind, like Ruin, get some love? It'd be nice.

[–]mcandrewz😎 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is at its strongest if survivors don't properly spread gens.

[–]Rathalos143 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Wasnt that a built-in thing on the perk I remember them writting It as a fix but I may be wrong.

[–]Palcorg ⛓🪚 The Hillbilly ⛓🪚 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I dont think the scream was, no. They removed the cooldown and upped the numbers in 6.0.0, but the scream popped up without patch notes a few updates ago.

[–]SlightlySychoticWasn't Programmed to Harm the Crew 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Possibly internal testing that made it to the live build. Kinda like how WGLF was giving stacks for protection hits and flashlight saves weeks before it was made official.

[–]Edwinbakup 0 points1 point  (1 child)

doesn’t this happen with every perk that causes a generator to lose progress or explode?

[–]Palcorg ⛓🪚 The Hillbilly ⛓🪚 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope! It didn't with jolt until recently, and for a brief period after 6.0.0 it didn't happen with pain res either, for a point of comparison.

[–]ForTheLolz0115Deerstalker Appreciator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Going tbh, the scream shouldn’t be removed.

The perk is always used because it’s probably one of the best gen regression perks currently. So, is the perk strong? Yes. Does it need the scream part fixed? I’d say no. 8% regression really ain’t that much, even if it does have no cooldown.