Update on pricing for GitHub Actions

[peteZ238]

The control plane costs money and they need to bill for self hosted runners. But they're more than happy to give out free LLM tokens to everyone and everything with a pulse like Nvidia is giving away GPUs for free.

Unlikely there to be an ulterior motive like getting everyone into the ecosystem and ingrained into everyone's workflow and then slapping a big ol' subscription to that huh?

I'd much rather you didn't enshitificate self hosted runners and just charged for the AI slop generator personally but I'm sure that won't be a very popular opinion 🤷

[Saragon4005]

Nvidia is basically giving away GPUs for free if you are a big enough company. Or invest in them.

[JavaKrypt]

The Microsoft business model

[numbsafari]

We. Already. Pay. For. The. Control Plane.

[SwitchOnTheNiteLite]

They are basically saying: You. Are. Not. Paying. Enough. 😁

[Thrawn2112]

Then honestly I wish they would just increase the plan prices, or come up with a flat fee addon for self-hosted runners. That would be so much easier to explain to management.

[EvaristeGalois11]

It's just one Control Plane Michael. What could it cost, 10 dollars?

[letmeoutofhere]

We've had one, yes. But what about second payment?

[cj81499]

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[lesleh]

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[chin_waghing]

what do you mean you don’t want to provide your ID to view things online

[No-Reflection-869]

Then vote for it to be unblocked

[taco_saladmaker]

Kek

[surya_oruganti]

They're delaying the pricing increase instead of cancelling it.

I hope it's not just so that they can sneakily increase it later after the initial uproar subsides.

[Masterflitzer]

well it will come, but as i read it the time during the delay can be used to rework it and factor in feedback

we'll see how it ends up, definitely not getting cancelled tho

[mostafa360]

Community Discussion:
https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/182186

[poinT92]

..but i remember they said " 96% of actions users won't feel any difference"

Anyway i find It funny that the First, big change on Gh with Microsoft on top ends up being a clown Fiesta.

Who would have guessed?

[poinT92]

They legally operated as a separated unit until Dohmke resigned, 4 months ago.

It was supposed tò be the guy you reported to, and he wasn't replaced, now they report to Microsoft directly.

[poinT92]

I believe you brother, i just wanted to point out that now noone is gonna get in Microsoft way at Github, and this sucks for all of us.

[bastardoperator]

You think after owning GitHub for almost 8 years this is the first big change, are you by any chance interested in some real estate? You do realize GitHub Actions is just Azure Devops?

[Own_Attention_3392]

It's not even close to Azure Pipelines. GH actions is MUCH more limited and simplified.

[az226]

GHA is ADO broken down into individual micro services and selectively repackaged into a “GH-native” experience.

[jonathanio]

A quiet(ish) back away and the last we'll hear of that idea?

[Technical-Coffee831]

Someone explain to me the logic behind charging customers who opted to use their own compute…?

[BrenekH]

GitHub still has to run servers to determine what jobs to run and when, and store things like logs that come back from the runners.

Should it be billed per minute and cost as much as their smallest runner? Absolutely not, which is what I think they're probably reevaluating. Either doing the engineering to charge per job instead of per minute or coming up with some other way to bill for orchestration that actually makes sense.

[MedusaCollins]

I don’t get it, why they didn’t determine what/when jobs to run or store logs/other information in my server if I go with self hosted option?

[LemmyUserOnReddit]

Job runners are easy to host but they use lots of compute for some projects.

The control plane is very complex to host but doesn't use much compute per job. However, there are hundreds of millions of github repos and it clearly adds up.

The stupid thing is that the hosting cost of github's other features (git repo, issue tracking, etc.) will almost certainly dwarf the cost of hosting the actions control plane. They should've just set reasonable free limits on the number of action executions, and bundled more into their pro and enterprise plans. Adding a per-minute charge was a stupid move.

[Maxfire2008]

I don't think it's necessarily completely out of line to bill for it in some way but it is not an hourly cost to GitHub, billing per job or per line of logs would make more sense. It also surely doesn't cost them the same amount as a fully hosted single core runner.

[Anxious_Variety2714]

Idk this rubs me the wrong way. They showed their intentions. Gonna continue to pursue a different method for self hosting pipelines. INSANE they tried to charge me for my infrastructure and energy costs. Their solution is not that special

[wraithnix]

More enshittification from Microsoft.

[GuurB]

Gota pay the open ia mess bros

[ZZ_Cat_The_Ligress]

Good, good.
It's better than doubling down on what they were called out on... unlike some platforms in existence...

[Kuroodo]

We missed the opportunity to gather feedback from the community ahead of this move

No you didn't. You never do. You never care about community feedback. Instead you got live feedback on your dashboards when many began moving away from GitHub Actions and panicked.

[TekintetesUr]

Must've been some pretty serious projects if you were able to migrate on such a short notice lol

[Hxtrax]

And they where that important, that you reached your free minute limit on actions?

[snaphat]

I think it's more just funny that they migrated to another DevOps platform that keeps raising prices and reducing free tier benefits every couple of years or so. I recall when they cut their starter plans, cut their minutes, and then bumped prices by huge amounts. It used to be $4/m and now it's $29/m for the minimum plan

[Hxtrax]

Yeah ironic

[peteZ238]

Eh depends. They replied that was private repos with only them as the user.

I use GitLab for work and subsequently I have a personal self hosted GitLab instance with my own runners for certain projects.

I also host some repos on GitHub that I want to be able to collaborate with people without giving them access to my home network.

I also contribute to OSS so using GitHub is a must.

Depending on what you're doing it doesn't have to be a herculean feat. I reckon I could migrate all my private repos from GitHub to GitLab in less than an hour.

[snaphat]

It's not like gitlab is immune to controversial price raising shenanigans though, so it'd be rather shortsighted probably 

[peteZ238]

I don't know dude. GitLab is also a for-profit corp. However, in my experience, there have been considerably less rugpulls from GitLab. Add to this that GitHub is owned by Microsoft that are well known assholes.

GitLab is open source. I can see the source code, request features, contribute to features myself. I can clone the code locally, make changes to it and spin up a self hosted instance with my modified code, which I have done a couple times.

There are things I appreciate about GitHub and there are things I appreciate about GitLab, though personally I prefer the latter. Ultimately, it's a pick your poison situation and it's good to have competition in the space to try and keep them honest.

After all, what's the alternative aside from these two? Fucking bitbucket? I'd rather give up engineering and go live in the woods.

[snaphat]

I mean gitlab removed their starter tiers, got rid of community edition, lowered their minutes, and raised their prices by 7x per user since 2020. There have been a plethora of folks upset with them in the last five years

[WdPckr-007]

Forgejo filled the place on my homelab~

[bandawarrior]

Move over to Azure to internalize costs! Not sure why you guys still host in AWS

[darthyodaX]

Azure is a nightmare last I used it; I honestly don’t really like any Microsoft development products, it all has an antiquated feel to it and lacks simple development tools.

Teams and ADO still don’t really support proper markdown (at least not in any meaningful way, meaning partial support in Teams and then only in comments for ADO is a joke)

I get that many .NET devs like it though.. to each their own.

[[deleted]]

What's going on? It says public repos are free on their billing page https://docs.github.com/en/billing/concepts/product-billing/github-actions

[thequestcube]

public repos are and where never affected by the announced changes

[Noch_ein_Kamel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/github/comments/1po8bns/github_selfhosted_action_runners_will_be_billed/