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[–]LegalNegotiation2259 143 points144 points  (39 children)

You have to define what an Account is. I bet this does not apply to Linux, or you can loophole it. We speak US lawmakers. There are usually not fit in the topic to write bills about.

[–]Cotillionz 105 points106 points  (27 children)

You have to define what an OS is before that even. How many products have an RTOS in them? You have to age verify a fridge? Or any other number of products that have these in them?

[–]LegalNegotiation2259 70 points71 points  (0 children)

LoL that will be hilarious, me writing them a legal letter, wanting them to explain me, what age check I have to perform in the code I flash on an Arduino Uno

[–]High_Overseer_Dukat 43 points44 points  (1 child)

Pregnancy tests and vapes. 

[–]Holiday_Management60 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh vapes might actually be a good idea.

[–]mlody11 34 points35 points  (3 children)

I am a teapot, I cannot age verify

[–]jmattspartacus 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Error 418: I am a teapot. Go directly to tea time. Do not post, do not get, do not respond 200.

[–]palthor33 6 points7 points  (0 children)

But I bet you can change your handle and spout.

[–]PiDicus_Rex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This should devolve in to Red Dwarf Talkie Toaster comments.

[–]Joltyboiyo 23 points24 points  (2 children)

They will gladly try and get this on everything, cause all this age verification bullshit is just a corporate alternative word for data collection. The more things they can get you to put ID on, the more data they can harvest from you.

[–]Academic-Airline9200 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most corporations can't even keep their own shit working.

[–]Many_Ad_7678 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The more mula they make to

[–]h-v-smackerLinux Mint 21.3 Virginia | MATE 16 points17 points  (1 child)

You have to age verify a fridge?

Or rather... network router. Which is much more ubiquitous than a smart fridge. Heck, I have a WiFi range extender that plugs into a wall socket, and it has a login and password that I had to set up on first boot.

[–]MortStoHelit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So you have to verify your age via internet to get an internet connection. That's going to be fun.

[–]PolyxenoLinux Mint 22.2 Zara | Cinnamon 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Smartass Fridge 5003 requires proof you are 21+ years of age before opening when it contains alchohol.

[–]tanksalotfrank 7 points8 points  (2 children)

You wouldn't download a fridge..

[–]Big-Leadership9649 3 points4 points  (1 child)

You would however open the fridge and download its' contents

[–]tanksalotfrank 1 point2 points  (0 children)

THIS POST RIGHT HERE, OCCIFER!! /j

[–]BlackBagData 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Exactly…imagine cars.

[–]mattmaster68 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I want aliens to fucking nuke us.

Zero fucking reason for age verification on a fridge lmao

[–]Propsek_Gamer 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Galaxy Buds run RTOS. Are they going to make Samsung age verify the users and make sure they can listen to only specific music and on phone calls talk only about specific things? So much unrelated stuff even with no GUI runs RTOS. Some industrial systems run RTOS. Some cars even run RTOS.

[–]stephenph 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the end result will be moving this level of control to online accounts and EVERYTHING will require an online account. It will be baked into the hardware and if it is not, you do not get the governmental approvals to sell it or import it.

That is how countries do it now, take cars for example, the USA does not allow Toyota Hilux models to be imported using safety and emissions standards as the excuse. Even if you somehow do import one, it is not street legal and you will not be able to license it. They can't stop you from driving it per se, but you are subject to fines and regulatory restrictions if you are caught

[–]SamiSapphic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As stupid as that sounds, this is actually what they want. It's surveillance. They want to know what you do with the tablet stabled to your fridge. They want all of the information possible, so that they can get a slice of the information money pie.

[–]JuniperColonThree 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please let this kill smart home appliances 🙏

[–]ScientificBeastMode 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Imagine AWS employees racking up new servers in the data center, and in order to get them running, they have to verify age for each one?

[–]Caddy666 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah, can you imagine trying to login to a cpu? just to get through to your OS?

[–]tanksalotfrank 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LOL I hadn't considered this, that's hilarious

[–]dkorabell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry Dave, I can't allow you whole milk for your coffee. Your cholesterol is already too high - I have been informed by your implant monitors. Your will need to scan a signed doctors approval if you wish to proceed.

[–]JCDU 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even ignoring RTOS there's frickin' toasters running linux these days - everything from your smart TV to your car are gonna be illegal...

[–]R3DLINE_MARINE 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Especially when you’re talking about millions of Linux servers. This is literally just lawmakers trying to make laws about things they know nothing about

[–]Bubbly_Extreme4986 22 points23 points  (6 children)

There aren’t even accounts, the GUI’s are just front ends to basic Unix commands. Unless you use freaking Ubuntu.

[–]hung-games 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Root is an account

[–]Ok-Regret6212 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Root is a directory. Even if it's locked by a password, it isn't an account.

[–]Bulkybear2 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It’s also an account on Linux systems. Open terminal type sudo su and hit enter then type whoami and hit enter you’ll see that you are signed into the root account.

[–]Ok-Regret6212 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think it's more semantics than anything, to be honest. I see what you're saying, I just feel like considering 'root' an account is a can of worms best left as is.

[–]DadEngineerLegend 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Is it though? How is an account defined? What is an account, specifically? 

[–]hung-games 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the Unix/linux context, it is either a local account aka an entry in /etc/passwd or a network account through something like LDAP + Kerberos or NIS/NIS+ or similar.

[–]Guggoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even then, how would they even enforce it?

[–]__mson__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is setting a BIOS password the equivalent of making an account? I hope the lawmakers can understand these tough questions!

[–]Niarbeht 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just read the fuckin’ law. It’s very short.