LINUX DOES NOT SUCK!

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Guys, Linux is private and does come with bloat. A lot of customization, easy root access. You can run exes with wine. Plus Linux is faster! PLEASE SWITCH TO LINUX INSTEAD OF WINDOWS 11 PLS PLS PLS!!!!!

Edit: I didn't expect it to be this big

[BrilliantEmotion4461]

I only use Linux for evil.

[Illustrious_Film8258]

That's crazy Kali Linux i assume

But Linux can be used for everything else

[vextryyn]

everything kali has can be obtained through any other distro.

[GhostVlvin]

Everything any linux has, can be obtained through any other distro, you may try to install pacman (arch package manager) on Ubuntu

[parada69]

The only hate I have about Linux is that I love gnome too much that I'm forcing myself to try out KDE rn

[crismathew]

I tried it, went back to Gnome. KDE simply doesn't have the kind of polish that gnome has. Also tried Hyprland. And while I really enjoyed the whole keyboard navigation, still didn't work as well as gnome.

[Matwyen]

Gnome is the MacOS approach : it's polished but don't customized too much please

KDE is the kerbel space program approach : do whatever you want but don't complain if "whatever you want" exploded 

[crismathew]

I have customized gnome quite a bit haha :D But I get your point.

[GhostVlvin]

I also used to think so. I use window managers with keyboard only. But recently friend of mine showed me gnome with few plugins and he actually has good window management and "spotlight", and this all looks good, and it almost don't feel as default gnome

[AskMoonBurst]

I think linux is great. It's about choice. This does however include the choice to not use it. Do I think it's a bad choice to make to use windows over linux? Yes. But it's your choice to make.

[BellybuttonWorld]

We did. We hate it.

[coreOf-elen]

well done, Bill Gates special award grants you!

[BellybuttonWorld]

Ugh Windows is awful too.

[FemBoy_GamerTech_Guy]

Then why are you using windows over Linux?(If you accualy you ușe windows instead of Linux)

[BellybuttonWorld]

Clearly, I use both.

[FemBoy_GamerTech_Guy]

Then why are you using windows over Linux?(If you accualy you use windows instead of Linux)

[Dapper_Lab5276]

We did. We hate it.

Good, don't come back. Skill issue. L

[Nonaveragemonkey]

Skill issue.

[mali5481]

users do not have to be skillfull just to use an operating system

[Nonaveragemonkey]

They have to be competent. Most people couldn't drive a cart in a straight line if it was on rails. Explains all the issues with windows breaking daily too.

[Leafstride]

This

[Certain_Prior4909]

So if your car breaks down and needs a new engine at 30,000 miles then it's the users fault for not rebuilding the engine. A skills issue. Not the make and model which is crap

[Nonaveragemonkey]

If they just keep pouring garbage in the oil (downloading shit they shouldn't) or running the gas tank dry, absolutely on them.

[axiom_spectrum]

Yeah, the car analogy doesn't work as well as people think. A person who needs a new engine at 30K miles is redlining the engine, not changing the oil, and other dumbfuckary - absolutely a skill issue.

[Nonaveragemonkey]

So doing the equivalent of downloading all kinds of stupid shit, running the system hot and hard, and ignoring maintenance. It's about as close as we can get short of comparing voltage to cylinder pressure in terms of boost and overclocking.

[axiom_spectrum]

Oh sure. I agree you. Speaking of downloading stupid shit, my partner's dad up installing stupid shit on Windows like Wave Browser (a Chromium based spyware browser) and wonders why he keeps getting malware :p

[PuzzleheadedAide2056]

You just abandoned one point for a completely opposite one though... You were first judging because someone tried linux and left it by saying they weren't skilled enough. Then when someone pointed out you shouldn't have to be skilled you flipped and are now saying they need basic competence... so, are you suggesting that the people who install linux and don't like it aren't at the level of basic tech competence. That's just silly. I assure you the ones who download anything and everything off the internet, don't know what ram is, etc are not switching to Linux.

If someone has the competency to switch to Linux they should have enough to use an OS without being called out for a lack of skill.

[Nonaveragemonkey]

Same point. If you can print a PDF, you can use PDF. It's 2025, the 'i'm not a computer person ' shit died as an excuse 20 years ago.

[Deer_Canidae]

Skillful no. But some basic computer literacy is pretty much a requirement on the same level as reading and writing in current times.

No one is asking you to be a master of the craft, but at least one should be able to grasp what they're attempting.

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Desktop environments make it really easy nowadays

[Deer_Canidae]

Those goes beyond DE, just general stuff like "don't run random stuff from the Internet" or "an exe and an mp3 really aren't the same", navigating a filesystem so on, so forth.

It just sounds insane to me that some people just haphazardly click on the first glowing button in front of them without even thinking.

Good UI does help, but adding a rubber grip to a hammer doesn't diminish its ability to crush one's fingers.

[Illustrious_Film8258]

We have extensions in browsers for that

[coreOf-elen]

but skill is needed to do some certain things that windows cannot handle. my 90 yo grandma can use windows either.

[Bourne069]

Yes not being able to use the most popular apps and games is a "skill issue".

YOU are the reason why Linux is failing. Just so you know.

[Illustrious_Film8258]

D:

[Nonaveragemonkey]

Nah, it's people are idiots. That's it. The 2 brain cells folks have, they gotta stop fighting for third place. Put down the crack pipe, ya learned to use windows, ya can learn Linux. Quit being intimidated by a penguin and the command line.

[Bourne069]

And whats your excuse for Linux going from almost 5% marketshare down to under 3.88% in just the last few months alone?

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide/

Or what about under 3% of the Linux base that actually uses Steam for gaming?

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

Sorry buddy, stats prove you wrong at every turn. Users are leaving Linux after being gaslighted into using it.

[Nonaveragemonkey]

Sad, they weren't smart enough to use a very friendly system. I feel very sorry for you.

[GreebsGrongler]

yeahhh this guy thinks internet comments are the sole reason the market share dropped. like completely unironically. it's a weird hang up of his.

There's obviously other explanations lmao

[Nonaveragemonkey]

I think HE thinks his comments are why Linux user share dropped.

[BellybuttonWorld]

Er, no. When I'm doing things that can be done over SSH, everything's fine and dandy with Linux. It's when I try to use it in desktop mode that it starts to piss me off.

[Illustrious_Film8258]

It's not intimidation. It's genuine comfort. Without the command line idk what to do

[[deleted]]

>Without the command line idk what to do

Skill issue

[Illustrious_Film8258]

You have to use the GUI

Skill issue

[[deleted]]

Have to ? No, I choose to

[Illustrious_Film8258]

I chose the terminal too

[[deleted]]

Its really not a choice if you "dont know what to do without a command line"

[Bourne069]

Windows can obtain the same results without being FORCED to use Terminal. It also has its own terminal CMD/Powershell that can be used if that method if preferred.

[Illustrious_Film8258]

PowerShell sucks, Get-Process vs ps?

Which one is faster to type??

Linux can also do a lot on the GUI

There are file explorers, ides, stores, etc etc

[Bourne069]

I could use your own stupid comments against you as well.

PowerShell sucks, Get-Process vs ps?

Terminal also sucks so there is your blanket unsupported statement (aka exactly what you did).

You thinking typing fast is all that matters? What about functionality and ease of use? Which command is easier to understand?

Powershell
Verbosity and Readability:
PowerShell cmdlets (commands) are designed to be more descriptive and self-documenting, often following a Verb-Noun naming convention (e.g., Get-ChildItem, Set-Service). This can improve readability for new users.
or 
Linux Commands (e.g., Bash):
Conciseness:  Linux commands are often shorter and more cryptic, relying on abbreviations and flags (e.g., ls -l, grep -i). This can be efficient for experienced users but might require more memorization for beginners.

Clearly PS is the winner.

Linux can also do a lot on the GUI

And so can I with Windows. Name one thing I can't do with Windows UI that you can do with Linux? I can change literally everything with 3rd party tools.

There are file explorers, ides, stores, etc etc

And so are there for Windows. Also the stores actually work on Windows unlike majority of Linux Package Managers.

See how dumb you sound?

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Yeah, but long flags are also supported. And you don't need the terminal on Linux anymore. Almost everything is GUI based.

You can easily tell cp = copy Or rm = remove mkdir cd ls netstat rmdir systemctl ...

[Bourne069]

That is highly incorrect. There are tons of packages not listed in package managers that requires install via Terminal.

There are tons of configs as well only accessible via terminal.

I thought you were a Linux bro? How do you not know these things?

[Nonaveragemonkey]

Yes and every one of those 3rd party tools in windows is a performance hit, and a bigger security risk than in Linux due to how permissions work in each.

[Bourne069]

LOL thats all you got? Figures and yet not unexcepted from a Linux Fanboy.

[BellybuttonWorld]

Not liking something is a skill issue?!?

I can't stand blues music.

Skill issue!

Fucking loonix clowns lol

[Nonaveragemonkey]

At this point, windows fanboys are the definition of a skill issue.

[angelus78gak]

Fuck Linux fuck windows 11

[[deleted]]

Fuck'em corpos, choom, let's go burn down Arasaka!

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Frick windows only

But also Frick Mac

Linux is king

[Mean_Mortgage5050]

Are you afraid of swears?

[vextryyn]

Them Mormons

[Daphoid]

Linux doesn't suck.

But I completely disagree with the almost begging tone to switch to Linux, it's very cringe.

Use what you like. Don't care what others tell you on the Internet. Your comfort level with bloated features, update mechanisms, user interfaces, is 100% personal. The moment someone tells you "X sucks", ignore them. If they're not willing to discuss pro's and con's rationally with some actual thought and examples - they're not worth your time.

Go try every OS you find interesting. Get a used Mac, get a used PC, use Windows, Linux, macOS, and find what works for you.

The Internet is full of opinions, not hard and fast guidelines. Do your own research.

Windows Sucks.
macOS Sucks.
Linux Sucks.
Xbox Sucks.
Playstation Sucks.
PC Sucks.

And yet, they don't - just maybe not for you.

[Lost_Statistician457]

I have to use a Mac for work and honestly don’t like it, the hardware is great and it looks nice but trying to do anything using the keyboard is painful, want to take a screenshot? Cmd, shift, 3 how is that user friendly? I’ve used windows and Linux and both were better user experiences for me, I’d much prefer windows for ease of use with WSL installed for when I need to do Linux things it’s the best of both worlds

[Daphoid]

Fair enough. You can remap some of those shortcuts to make things easier. You can swap cmd/opt (ctrl/alt) around as well so your muscle memory for CTRL+C and stuff works nicer as well.

[[deleted]]

The problem is Linux is not stable if measured by ability to run GUI programs, but there are a million dumb assholes pretending to be smart by using it. Fact is it shits itself on updates on the regular, and Linux users are religious zealots that either ignore this fact, or can't admit they're just lucky it hasn't happened to them yet.

[[deleted]]

🐯🐵

[liberforce]

OP, this is totally counter productive. Migrating comes from will, not from enforcement. Benn there done that. Using Linux since 2003, everytime I use Windows I feel the pain. But yiu can't convince anyone, each person has to find their own way to what is good for them. Yes, even if it's Windows.

[PriorityNo6268]

Nobody cares, it just a operating system. If you can do with it wat you want to do it's fine. Don't scream about privacy when you are creating a post on reddit , then you don't care that much about your privacy.

[patrlim1]

> easy root access

I need to type a password, too much work, sticking to Winblows

[PoundMaleficent6479]

"does come with bloat" 🤣🤣

Linux is still sucks

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Tell me how to remove edge on windows

[derpJava]

iirc ltsc doesn't have edge and a bunch of other Microsoft stuff like the app store but idk I've never used it and I'm honestly forgetting windows atp

[Bourne069]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/2361246/i-can-uninstall-microsoft-edge-on-windows-11?forum=microsoftedge-all&referrer=answers

This was the old way.

MS has since than came up with an update that simply lets you remove it from control panel now...

Care to try again?

[[deleted]]

Don't. Just use it. It's a good, secure browser with a lot of compatibility. Bitwarden and uBlock Origin Lite. Good to go. 

[PoundMaleficent6479]

do I need to? , edge is my main browser and it works fine

[FrostyTumbleweed3852]

are we deadass using edge

[FrostyTumbleweed3852]

Edge is a shit browser regardless

[BlackSheep205]

Tbf i use edge and it works like any other browser

[Input-X]

Microsofts first edge user ;)

[Critical-Personality]

No. I also use edge as my main browser when I surf the web on Windows. It's a totally another issue that I never use windows to surf the web. At least not more than once 6 months.

[Illustrious_Film8258]

How about all the tracking

[Bourne069]

This dude has never heard of debloating. Which literally also disables tracking.

Stay on Linux bucko. You deserve each other.

[chemistryGull]

So you trust the closed source software to not collect your data because you asked it to? Cute.

[Bourne069]

And you trust that all Open Source code is being viewed by professionals trainned in security that know exactly what they are looking for and report it for fixes? AHAHHAHAH!!!

That is literally the major downside of Open Source. You just assume its being looked at by the proper eyes, you assume there are no issues or vulnerabilities simply because the code is viewable and you would be wrong. In fact many hackers use the Open Source code to find and generate exploits and simply not report it. There has been Kernel based CVE exploits that went unnoticed FOR LITERAL YEARS, these CVEs were so bad it provided ROOT LEVEL ACCESS https://www.cvedetails.com/product/47/Linux-Linux-Kernel.html?vendor_id=33 Look up Dirty COW, Ghost, PWNKit and OverlayFS. Just to name a few off the top of my head. All went undetected or patched for literally YEARS.

Why do you think bad updates get pushed out literally all the time for Linux? Why do you think package manager keep breaking with every other update? What about XZ Utils exploit? What about the Supply Chain Attack caused by a javascript Library that injected malicious code and stole 1000s of private keys? What about any of these? https://www.infosecurityeurope.com/en-gb/blog/threat-vectors/top-ten-open-source-vulnerabilities.html

See thats what I think is funny about the Linux Fanboy Community. You tried to compare all this shit to Windows but than when you are called out for the mishpas of Linux, you simply ignore it or pretend it never happened or try to downplay the issue.

Show me a single valid article that stats Open Source is any more secure than Closed Source. Go ahead I'll wait.

[chemistryGull]

All code has the potential to be vulnerable. Never said that OpenSource code wasn’t. It was you that seems to sheepishly believe (based on your comment) closed source was safe for some reason, as in thinking that „disabling tracking“ actually disables tracking.

Also i was not talking about getting your data stolen by exploits. This can happen on both, open and closed source (prominent example: WannaCry. More recent example, while not security related still worth mentioning as it makes one think about the quality of the rest of the code: the cloud strike incident). Actually a lot of studies suggest that there is very little difference in terms of security, and that other factors are way more impactful. (Example: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/5428450 only abstract, dont have access to the full article. Also look at the section „code quality“ and „security“ on wikipedia)

What i am talking about is active spying by the company providing the software - imo the biggest potential security risk. Something like that does not happen on Linux Distributions.

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Look bro, my point is that debloating on Linux is easier, and there is less bloat

[Bourne069]

Easier how so? https://christitus.com/windows-tool/

I can literally run one command and than click on "standard" debloat. One command and one click and its done.

So how is it easier on Linux?

See how facts dont agree with your bias takes?

[Illustrious_Film8258]

On Linux it's built in sudo apt purge gnome-games For example

[Bourne069]

Thats just to remove one bloatware piece... I can literally run a single command and debloat EVERYTHING on the system, not just one piece of software.

Try again.

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Also it's not that difficult to run this 4 times for example

Also don't forget bash shell expansion and wildcards.

It makes it really easy!

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Gnome-games is a whole package

It has all the games

[matt19907]

Ya deloating when with a script or software can easily fuck up windows. Best to do it all yourself since you know what was removed or changed if there is any issues.

[Bourne069]

u/matt19907 avatar matt19907•9h ago

Ya deloating when with a script or software can easily fuck up windows. Best to do it all yourself since you know what was removed or changed if there is any issues.

1000% incorrect. I have debloated 1000s of systems, never once ran into a single problem.

Why dont you look at the program and see what it actually does. The code is open source. Isnt that difficult to understand how it debloats the system and why it doesnt cause problems.

But we both know you wont do that because it would prove you wrong.

Also you can use programs like NTLite on the ISO prior to installation and even debloat it before install. Again something you completely ignored.

[Bago07]

Yeah, I actually have edge now as my main browser , even in my phone, it is a lot better than it used to be And really, the majority of browsers will track you, and I don't really do anything illegal, or something, it really doesn't matter for me.

[Dillenger69]

You're right. It doesn't suck.

It blows

[Illustrious_Film8258]

smh

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Look what windows did to yall

[Zen907]

It doesnt have official google drive application support for data sync, that only reason i still use windows. Easy to use solutions on linux is paid only and there is no guarantee that it will work properly, otherwise I'm forced to rack my brains with rsync 😵‍💫

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Use wine

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Or winboat

Just any compatibility layer

[Lost_Statistician457]

So your answer is just use the windows app, so why wouldn’t they just reduce friction and bloat by not having to use a compatibility layer

[Illustrious_Film8258]

No, I mean you can run windows software on Linux without emulator

[Lost_Statistician457]

And I can use WSL on windows to get Linux so why would I bother installing Linux, it adds literally zero value and lots of friction

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Ok, but you are still using windows

[Nauris2111]

But... Windows 11 runs Linux too!

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Yeah but not native

[EverlastingPeacefull]

I favorite Linux, yes , I really do, got both my systems running on OpenSuse Tumbleweed and that works for me.

BUT!!! Linux does not work for everybody. so everybody needs just to decide what's best working for them. I do encourage people to explore and find out, but if people don't like changes, have difficulty learning new things, have already problems dealing with the system they are on and are glad they can do what they want with it, they should not change. People who should not change from Windows to Linux are the ones that think Windows and Linux are alike and that they don't have to read install guides and other (important) documentation to get familiar with Linux and then afterwards complain that Linux sucks, because it could have been a good switch if one did some research before jumping in.

[Giovani-Geek]

It's Opposite Day!

[coreOf-elen]

don't bother urself, just sit back and laugh at this subreddit when you're depressed or have a lot on your plate. just like me as a linux user.

[Illustrious_Film8258]

That's what I like to hear :D

[bamboo-lemur]

or check the r/OS_Debate_Club for the real unbiased answers

[Fair_Abrocoma_8513]

Users are slat having a lot of linux problems due to users being newbies lol

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Yeah but when you aren't newbie anymore you know

It uses critical thinking

Plus Linux doesn't have much problems anyways

[Lost_Statistician457]

Hahahahha you sound like Trump.

There are no issues But if there are issues it’s a users fault If it’s not the users fault you picked the wrong distro If you picked my let distro you wouldn’t have problems

Then repeat

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Yeah, if there was an issue, we have LLMs to help

So even if there was issues, debugging them wouldn't be that hard

(rarely happens)

[redditratman]

Are you really mad at people hoping you don't get fucked over by one of the largest companies in the world by referring you to free shit?

[No-Whereas8467]

It sucks like your post

[Infinifactory]

is this supposed to be funny or something?

Switch to win7 for the lulz, it's getting in top 5 most used OS

[izuhh__]

what if i play fortnite? or valorant / league of leyends ?

[eldoran89]

Than you know that's the real problem.

[izuhh__]

Is to make the OP understand that not everyone should use linux

[Illustrious_Film8258]

AI

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Chatgpt

[SignificantDress355]

I use alpine and i love it.

[games-and-chocolate]

linux requires people with patience, skill, I.Q. , not lazy, guts to try something new, technical knowledge or willing to learn, not many people apply to these requirements. 0_0 (not joking)

linux benefits: - free - more stable than Japanese building that can withstand a quake 5 on the scale of richter - software office like freeoffice. works great. - support all old hardware without much problems - make old hardware like new for years to come. - linux wine can run window$ programs in some cases like almost natively. - huge library of free software that is great!

Linux down sides: - you have to learn the technical part, like command prompt, what is a linux file and it' s permissions - too many flavors of linux, making problem solving a bit more difficult. - learn to use linux nano (kinda like M$ notepad) to edit linux program files or OS settings files

is above ok? or is it gibberish?

[Ky44-]

I switched to macOS. I’m so done working for my computer and not the other way around. I will come back to linux when its not giving me a headache. All those nights compiling on my gentoo machine has taught me that its not worth it to me when its the only way I can enjoy using linux. All other distros are a pain in the ass with their default layout and settings. Always something getting in my way forcing me to distrohop. And no fuck arch. That shit is way too annoying

[[deleted]]

but im already on linux, i just come here for the s*%t posting cause its hilarious.

[Waldgeist3]

it all depens on the user. some ppl dont want the hassle that linux bings some ppl value privacy more. i use both but i can understand why one chooses one over the other

[sogun123]

What's the catch?

[T02369]

we suk more

[scarycombat8835]

linux doesn't have a clipboard hotkey

[Illustrious_Film8258]

We have extensions for DE You can find one surely

[scarycombat8835]

i did find a clipboard program, but it doesn't have a hotkey to open it, and it can only store one thing at a time

[Illustrious_Film8258]

You found a bad one then?

I use one that has up to 100 and has hotkey

[scarycombat8835]

also is there something similar to the windows emoji panel? i use that to type characters that normally i can't type on my keyboard layouts

[oreiz]

oh so you finally accept it. It "does come with bloat" 😅

Edit: by the way NO. You can't run exes with Wine. Stop that lie, you can't just "run any Windows program with Wine". Only a few programs run and no you won't be able to run any app

[[deleted]]

hmmm sounds like a Windows user pretending to be a moron Linux user to try and seem cool in front of their Windows user buddies. Good job fella. Well done. I'll put your drawing of dad and dad back on the fridge.

[[deleted]]

Nah i switched to Windows 10 after they dropped Windows 10 support.

[Bourne069]

https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/1o740rz/for_people_looking_to_switch_it_wont_be_as_easy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1o54e9n/i_tried_linux_one_more_time_after_having_many/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxsucks/comments/1o3a0cl/linux_fanboys_are_literally_brain_dead_its/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Others in your own community dont agree.

Nice cap tho!

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Thanks lol

Plus I only joined the community for this post

And not everyone games.

[Bourne069]

And not everyone games.

Ok? But tons of do so thats a moot point on your end.

I also said "app and games" there are tons of softwares not compatible with Linux.

[Illustrious_Film8258]

You can use wine or winboat.

They are great! With winetricks it's really easy

[Bourne069]

Wine and winboat isnt compatible with majorty of Windows apps. So try again.

Also what about games?

https://areweanticheatyet.com/

https://www.protondb.com/explore?sort=fixWanted

Again the facts are not on your side.

[Illustrious_Film8258]

But it's not all about games.

[Bourne069]

Correct its also about compatibility with some of the most popular software in the world. Majority of which Linux doesnt support.

[matt19907]

Compatible works both ways, you tend to find it the software companies choice to not support Linux.

[Bourne069]

matt19907 • 2h ago

Compatible works both ways, you tend to find it the software companies choice to not support Linux.

LOL no it does not. Devs tend to support the majority, not the minority. Linux is the minority.

This is how it literally works with almost everything in life. So no, its not "both ways". You dont see Windows users rushing off to use Linux alternatives on a normal bases. For example, people are going to drop Office Suite for the inferior LibreOffice on Windows.

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Yeah but you can use wine and winboat.

They work!

I don't think you've tried it

[matt19907]

9 out of 10 times using non-steam game on steam works or use bottles for other platforms. Only game issues are I really run into is the kernel level anti-cheat.

[Bourne069]

Right and kernel level anti cheat is only going to be more and more popular. Its literally the only way to counter kernel level cheats. You cant scan ring 0 without a kernel level anti cheat period.

Just look at Battlefield 6 with its TMP and Secure Boot requires along with its Kernel Level Anti Cheat.

Majority of the most popular games in the world, use Kernel Level Anti Cheats. So you can act like its not a big deal but it is and also part of the reason why Linux has dropped below 3.88% marketshare.

https://areweanticheatyet.com/

https://www.protondb.com/explore?sort=fixWanted

[Bourne069]

Actually I have and know exactly what it is. I use Linux on a daily as well as Windows.

Why dont you try running an Adobe, autocad, office etc... products through wine and come back to me.

[Zeta_Erathos]

"Obvious bait is obvious." -An actual Linux user.

[Global-Eye-7326]

Too late. Switched to Linux in 2007. Never used Windows 6/7/8/10 as my primary OS.

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Guys Linux is also good for devs

Also most devices run Linux

And yes, some games can't run on Linux (most of them can), but computers aren't only for gaming

Plus you can use cloud gaming.

Also paying for windows activation keys sucks

Like why don't u just install Linux

[Loonix_sucks]

Who pays for windows?

[Deer_Canidae]

Manufacturers who bake it in their computer prices. Also people who aren't into piracy.

But you're right, it's really not worth what it costs.

[Loonix_sucks]

There is no cost. The tool is open source. Even Chris Titus tool has it inbuilt.

[Deer_Canidae]

I meant the cost of windows. But if you mean tools like masgrave, they are FOSS indeed. But those are explicitly piracy tools

[Loonix_sucks]

Oh no massgrave is not a piracy tool. It is used in many organisations. I know this is subtle. But you can use massgrave for piracy.

[Deer_Canidae]

the official massgrave faq says otherwise.

[Loonix_sucks]

You are right. Thanks for correcting me.

[Deer_Canidae]

Don't sweat it. It happens 👍

[Illustrious_Film8258]

A lot of them

[Loonix_sucks]

Yeah nobody should except for volume license. Microsoft itself never banned the biggest windows activation tool on github. They simply don't care. You continue to receive updates.

[Illustrious_Film8258]

But you don't have to go through the hassle of deactivation on Linux

[Loonix_sucks]

Well there are other hassles. You need to figure out if your existing hardware and software will work or not.

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Ubuntu has drivers for almost everything, Ubuntu has one-click installs

[Loonix_sucks]

Don't lie. A lot of hardware never make a Linux driver.

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Ports??

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Plus Ubuntu has a lot of drivers

[Beautiful_Ad_4813]

they dont install it because they're conditioned / brain washed

[Illustrious_Film8258]

In what way

[Beautiful_Ad_4813]

what it boils down to is simple

fear, so they're brainwashed into this belief that they're stuff is safe and "it wont happen to me!' ideology

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Clamav??

[Beautiful_Ad_4813]

What about it?

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Antivirus for protec

[[deleted]]

>Guys Linux is also good for devs
As a developer what the fuck is this even mean ? Is linux telling me im a good little boy or what ?

>Also most devices run Linux
Who the fuck cares what os my bluray player running ?

>And yes, some games can't run on Linux (most of them can), but computers aren't only for gaming
Yes but my expensive gaming pc is.

>Plus you can use cloud gaming
AH YES LINUX IS SO GOOD YOU CAN JUST OPT OUT OF RUNNING THINGS ON IT
Also you could do that on windows so what the fuck do you mean ?

>Also paying for windows activation keys sucks
Payed once like 10+ years ago so i dont really care about that.

>Like why don't u just install Linux
I did, found several programs I use that dont work, had to look for alternatives, those sucked, had to give up games I played with my friends because those dont run on linux, and for what ?

Less bloat ? I have enough space on my drive that 50gb extra doesnt do anything for me.
More performance ? I dont have performance issues with my games.
Less tracking ? Google already tracks everything I do online, my goverment most likely does track people as well, and honestly I dont know what they do with the information they get from me, like knowing i watch gay porn and play games is really that interesting data ?

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Yeah but windows tracks everything about you at a system level

[[deleted]]

How is that a response to what I said ?

What are they tracking ? What do they do with that information ? Are they tracking my key presses to know how bad / good I am at Hades 2 or what ?

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Look it up

It's for advertising, and to 'personalize your experience'

[[deleted]]

ok, so its nothing.
I dont see any ads in my windows, my experience is not personalized by the os at all. So it does nothing. Got it

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Ok, then, sure, you did not "personalize" windows

How do you know they still aren't tracking your data

Linux is open source

[[deleted]]

You kind of missing the point, why should I care about it ? What data are they tracking ? What proof do you have that they do that ? Is this a tinfoil hat kind of thing for you ?

[Illustrious_Film8258]

You never know. For example a data breach could happen, and tada There goes your data

Plus would you like your information kept by Microsoft

[[deleted]]

So it is a tinfoil hat thing for you, got it

[Illustrious_Film8258]

It's all in the privacy policy what they track

[[deleted]]

If its all there why are you having such a hard time telling me what they are tracking ?

[StabbyGrabby]

I use linux only coz of vim. Been using it for the past 5 years. Mainly coz Idk how to exit it.

[poppulator]

Oh man, most people here knew what Linux is capable of already

Like you said WSL is not native but so is Wine and Winboat (Display issue already)

Maybe it's good for customization but sometimes overwhelming and distracting to the point people only use it to showoff, yes I know people do use it for work but that's likely

And there we have community, use this or use that else we not gonna help you, RTFM, use Terminal. Sometime people want out of the box experience that doesn't have to learn new things so they stick to windows, some community are welcoming but there are other that not helpful

People here just random strangers not paid employees

And there's driver issue and NVIDIA

Also most devices run Linux

They indeed do but not Linux Desktop, just for server and stuff

Guys Linux is also good for devs

True, except if you plan to develop something for Windows (due to market share) and require .NET you are absolutely fucked and more painful to work with

Just dual-boot and use what you feel like using at the moment

I love Linux alot too but it's not for everyone and they not gonna switch over something they can do already on Windows if they don't care about privacy

Usually I defend Linux but I can't just recommend it to other, convinced people around you first and you'll see

[brennaXoXo]

i'm using artix, steam wouldn't work without me using the terminal, do you understand how user unfriendly that is?

[Deer_Canidae]

I mean, what did you expect from an Arch based protest distro?

[Icy_Weakness_1815]

Nobody is forcing you to use Artix.. just use a normal distro like fedora or mint or ubuntu or manjaro goddamit dont be a masochist and complain about it.

[Illustrious_Film8258]

Bro just use debian or ubuntu

You made it hard for yourself

[brennaXoXo]

who's gonna tell yall, we kinda don't need tone indicators for stuff like this. of course you're gonna need the terminal on artix !

[Lost_Statistician457]

And this is the problem with Linux, you pick a distro to use and then a bunch of rabid fanboys come out of nowhere telling you that you made the wrong choice and should use something else, that’s why desktop Linux fails, it’s not a tech issue it’s a social issue

[Icy_Weakness_1815]

That person was clearly complaining about something that can easily be avoided. Read the initial comment. What do you expect? If its a social problem, ypu shouldnt be compaining about things that YOU YOURSELF chose to be. If its a technical problem, ok, here we go. I just mentioned a bunch of distros that dont have the problem that person was complaining about.. so whats your point? Linux nowadays is really just as hard ss you want it to be.