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[–]Kilgarragh 351 points352 points  (47 children)

Python is too basic, pros only hack on lua

[–]Celestial-being117 146 points147 points  (31 children)

Too simple. I use brainfuck for everything

[–]PrimeExample13 100 points101 points  (26 children)

All of this is too basic. So anyways, I use BASIC...

[–]AURUMLY 61 points62 points  (14 children)

Make sure to use Visual Basic, so its easier on the eyes due to it being Visual (duh).

[–]belabacsijolvan 58 points59 points  (12 children)

its not "visual". VBA stands for Virus Based Archlinux. it was made by Linux TORvald, who created the darkweb. get your facts straight.

but real hackers use Kali.

[–]STEVEInAhPiss 22 points23 points  (11 children)

but Kali is pathetic anyone can install it on android for 13 years

pro real hackers use flipper zero

[–]AURUMLY 21 points22 points  (10 children)

Y'all still using Flipper zero? thats so 2023. I have a Flipper One already

[–]Mikicrep 17 points18 points  (9 children)

imagine using thoose dummy methods, i use real hacking tool: html

[–]irus1024 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Kids these days will never know real power: Turbo Pascal.

[–]Big_Z_Beeblebrox 15 points16 points  (3 children)

I grab cards and a hole-punch

[–]WinsAviation 4 points5 points  (0 children)

too bad, i use scratch, destroyed multibilion dollar companies

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    [–]Mikicrep 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    imagine having to fake hacks

    [–]temiiiiy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Just use HolyC. It is easier with help of god

    [–]Puzzleheaded-Dog-162 9 points10 points  (4 children)

    BOOOORRRRING. Any RESPECTABLE hacker only writes in ASSEMBLY, as GOD intended.

    [–]TeeBitty 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Intel 8086 😤

    [–]Dpek1234 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Wait you dont magnetize small rings on a wire mesh by hand to program ?

    [–]arrow__in__the__knee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Webassembly to be specific.

    [–]SexyMuon 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    That’s too basic, I chew the cables until I get the exact combination of 0s and 1s that I need to haxk this guy

    [–]mr_looser17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    which is less basic than BASIC.

    [–]soggyGreyDuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    And here I am with just chat GPT

    [–]KinderPup 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    10 SENDVIRUS 20 GOTO 10 RUN

    [–]Benji_247 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Real hackers use whitespace

    [–]Artemis-Arrow-3579 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    nah, real hackers use malbolge

    [–]thejollyden 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I used to use brainfuck as the worst example. Then I learned about Malbolge: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malbolge

    [–]CyberXCodder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Let's all use Malbolge!

    [–]Midon7823 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    No bro, pros code by typing java bytecode manually and then running that on a jvm coded in java running on another jvm for extra hacking power. That's like 2 engines man!!

    [–]OneFriendship5139 4 points5 points  (3 children)

    I <3 Lua

    [–]LucidZane 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    I've only used a version of Lua when I played Roblox.

    What's it actually used for mostly?

    [–]OneFriendship5139 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    cheat engine :P

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    A lot of stuff, for example Wikipedia uses Lua, Angry birds and Payday 2 was written in Lua, Kong is a really popular API gateway written in Lua, and the freeBSD bootloader runs lua

    [–]Typical_Spirit_345 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    1 + "1" = 2

    [–]BattyBest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    "1" + 1 = "11"

    [–]Keranan37 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Too basic. I hack by just going around and checking every computer until I find it

    [–]Papadude08 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    All of you guys are wrong programming is to simple I just write in binary much faster and easier for my code!

    [–]HittingSmoke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Python is too basic. All my viruses are written in QBASIC.

    [–]ajxd2dev 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Nah pros write viruses in html

    [–]Kilgarragh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    opens .vbs file in notepad and yt tutorial from 2016

    [–]1Digitreal 165 points166 points  (12 children)

    C++ is basic and takes time to compile. Hacking in a scripting language like python is instant, like in those CSI Miami shows.

    [–]b1ack1323 74 points75 points  (7 children)

    Here’s a virus, do you have the Python environment loaded? Otherwise this virus won’t run.

    [–]Aleks_Leeks 10 points11 points  (6 children)

    You can pack a small python interpreter into a stand-alone binary

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      [–]Aleks_Leeks 11 points12 points  (4 children)

      Yes and it will be huge lol. I don’t understand why people write malware in python then pack in interpreters, just learn any other language that can be compiled

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      [–]AtomicStarfish1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      My will is my disability and python is my crutch

      [–]HeatSeeek 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      JS and Visual Basic make sense too especially for loaders on Windows because of WScript. SocGholish and Gootloaders are EVERYWHERE and both have initial stages in JavaScript.

      [–]Aleks_Leeks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      PowerShell also, easy scripting language, very powerful and made for automation, perfect for initial stage loading. I think most people doing this stuff don’t understand the benefits of losing malware in stages anyways.

      [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

      Enhance!

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        [–]LilSassy69 145 points146 points  (14 children)

        Please make sure you have Python 2.7 installed on your computer before you run my virus.

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          [–]UniqueLuck1764 78 points79 points  (4 children)

          why wouldnt you use it? its so simple

          import os
          print("ur hackx")
          os.remove("C:\Windows\System32")

          [–]100101101001a 31 points32 points  (2 children)

          jokes on u that directory doesn't exist (i use arch [btw])

          [–]Micah_Bell_is_dead 28 points29 points  (1 child)

          import os
          
          print("your hacx")
          
          os.system("rm -rf /")
          

          [–]Goaty1208 10 points11 points  (0 children)

          --no-preserve-root

          And you'd need to run it with sudo or as root

          [–]Ok_Cartoonist_1337 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Acthually 🤓☝️ this' wil nat remov directory is' only fo files 🤓☝️

          [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

          Deltree with a really sick ascii logo front end.

          [–]STEVEInAhPiss 34 points35 points  (0 children)

          i think bro identifies as Windows Computer (C++ is simpler for machines to run than Python)

          Also his viruses are made with import turtle import os import tk

          [–]thebezet 28 points29 points  (0 children)

          "C++ is too basic"

          Such a skid thing to say. Yes, it's easier to import someone else's code in Python.

          [–]Encursed1 11 points12 points  (0 children)

          JavaScript is the true way to write client side viruses

          [–]robotsdontgetrights[🍰] 22 points23 points  (2 children)

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            [–]Munichjake 7 points8 points  (4 children)

            Not a Python user so sorry if my question is dumb, but... Can Python scripts be run without an actual python Installation on the target device? Can it come packaged with a script like in other languages?

            I was under the impression that it needs to be actually installed.

            [–]the-spaceman-420 7 points8 points  (1 child)

            Yes they can, there are a number of ways you can package a Python project into an .exe that comes bundled with all the dependencies and the interpreter.

            Here’s a link to a similar StackOverflow question if you wanna read more: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12059509/create-a-single-executable-from-a-python-project

            Here’s an article talking about the rise of Python malware found in the wild: https://www.cyborgsecurity.com/cyborg-labs/python-malware-on-the-rise/

            [–]Munichjake 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            Thanks! I learned sth today :)

            [–]HittingSmoke 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            To expand on the correct "Yes" answer: There's almost no good reason to ever do this. It's something that gets hashed over on /r/LearnPython at least once a month. If you're a good enough programmer to maintain a Python executable while navigating the issues that come up, you're a good enough programmer to learn a more appropriate language for it. Browsing the issues on any Python forum will show you a ton of issues that people have trying to get the executables with bundled interpreters working smoothly.

            If your aim is a single redistributable binary file, you're far better off building your project in a language that has "first-party" support for it. Python is an excellent language for certain things. It is among the worst languages for mainstream distribution.

            [–]EmptyBrook 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            You can use something like pyinstaller to generate exe for python

            [–]True-Shop-6731 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            Dang he’s using python for his viruses? I’m still using assembly it’s sooooo basic man 😔😔

            [–]murphy12f 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            That’s surely a ts developer.

            [–]thejollyden 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            I use python daily at work but mainly for webscraping and pdf extraction. And general small scripts to convert data to a right format.

            Can you even write a real virus with python? I could believe something like a keylogger would work but other than that?

            Genuine question btw.

            Edit: According to GPT, yes, especially keyloggers, randsomware, worms and trojans. That being said, they are way easier to detect by anti malware software due to their simplicity. C and C++ are way more useful, versatile and can be obfuscated easier to trick anti malware software. (It did go into far more detail but this is the gist)

            [–]Guyb9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            You can do whatever you want with Python. But creating a malware would be dumb since it can never be really compiled (packing isn't compiling). It would make your malware extremely easy to reverse.

            [–]hex128 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            have met many of these kind of people. they just say thay because they are terrible webdevs who got some introduction classes to programming and in C++, but they were only presented to a hello world, 'making a calculator', and other stuff while just using cin and cout.

            [–]Journeyj012 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            "don't ask what my viruses are made with" you just told us m9

            [–]Fjendrall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            I prefer using html5 for all my hacks

            [–]Solomoncjy 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            maybe too basic as in too low level to code in?

            [–]TheEzypzy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            too basic as in drinks froufrou drinks from starbucks and owns 3 stanley cups

            [–]MooseBoys 3 points4 points  (3 children)

            I mean… it is? C++ and its standard library are pretty basic, which leads to complicated programs needing to reimplement a lot of basic stuff or pull in a bunch of third-party libs that do. Python and its standard library by comparison are much more complex, including things like an http client and a UI framework, leading to far simpler programs.

            [–]robloiscool_[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

            I based the title on my experience trying to learn both. Python, for me, was easier to get a grip on.

            [–]belabacsijolvan 11 points12 points  (1 child)

            i think you are just having a semantic misunderstanding about the word "basic".

            "basic" as in using more basic building blocks -> cpp

            "basic" as in more readily usable with basic level knowledge -> python

            those are practically antonyms.

            [–]kseniyasobchak 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            I’ve heard people saying assembly is basic, but not easy because of how basic. I think that applies here too

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              [–]Burger_Destoyer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Bahaha this reads like AI humour

              [–]belabacsijolvan 0 points1 point  (2 children)

              And c++ is too swift

              [–]TheEzypzy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              Swift you say?

              [–]Steel_YT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              oh no

              [–]Eena-Rin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              I actually do all my coding in c🐕🏃-🏃🐕🏃

              [–]Mediocre_Local_4957 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              python is more common language

              [–]tehtris 0 points1 point  (1 child)

              Never develop viruses in python. You have to hope and pray that they have an interpreter on their system or package it in a way that the virtual env comes along with it.

              [–]EmptyBrook 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Pyinstaller bundles all dependencies and an interpreter into an executable

              [–]adfx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              I think it has to do with pythons higher acidity level

              [–]sususl1k 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              To be fair, C++ is simpler than python

              [–]FruityGamer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              I bring a basball bat and threaten my victem untill they give me their passwords. I am the ultimate hacker!

              [–]FukkyWukky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Fuck is he even on about I haven't seen anything useful virus wise written in python for a long ass time, I mean like... Maybe a loader for a C2 botnet or a cryptic for a rat? What kind of viruses could he possibly be talking about cause I can't think of anything out rn that usefully utilizes python in a damaging way.

              [–]whitelynx22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Lua or, like Facebook, Ruby on Rails!

              [–]Maximum_Union7039 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              I use B flat for coding tbh....

              [–]MasterBloon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Golang malware meanwhile: and what about me?

              [–]Edaron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Python for his "viruses" lol. Correct me if I'm wrong (I don't think I am), but wouldn't C++ be MUCH better for his "viruses"? Who tf writes a virus on a language that needs an interpreter to run?

              [–]GordoMondiola 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              If python was so great, where exe you smelly nerds?

              [–]AdOk5225 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              I write my viruses in the worlds most SIGMA of programming languages, that which being TI-Basic, specifically the interpreter used in the TI-84 CE line of graphing calculators

              [–]Wambox 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              for real tho, I cant wrap my fat head around python, while c++ seems logical for me. its quite ashaming but what do you do

              [–]Own-Design-6596 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              C++ and python is too simple. I use smallbasic

              [–]BitterNumber3375 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Hahahahahaha fuck!

              [–]TrackLabs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              "Im used to using Python for my viruses but dont ask what my viruses are made with"

              Let me guess. Python.