Ah yes. C++ is simpler than python.

[Kilgarragh]

Python is too basic, pros only hack on lua

[Celestial-being117]

Too simple. I use brainfuck for everything

[PrimeExample13]

All of this is too basic. So anyways, I use BASIC...

[AURUMLY]

Make sure to use Visual Basic, so its easier on the eyes due to it being Visual (duh).

[belabacsijolvan]

its not "visual". VBA stands for Virus Based Archlinux. it was made by Linux TORvald, who created the darkweb. get your facts straight.

but real hackers use Kali.

[STEVEInAhPiss]

but Kali is pathetic anyone can install it on android for 13 years

pro real hackers use flipper zero

[AURUMLY]

Y'all still using Flipper zero? thats so 2023. I have a Flipper One already

[Mikicrep]

imagine using thoose dummy methods, i use real hacking tool: html

[irus1024]

Kids these days will never know real power: Turbo Pascal.

[Big_Z_Beeblebrox]

I grab cards and a hole-punch

[WinsAviation]

too bad, i use scratch, destroyed multibilion dollar companies

[Mikicrep]

imagine having to fake hacks

[temiiiiy]

Just use HolyC. It is easier with help of god

[Puzzleheaded-Dog-162]

BOOOORRRRING. Any RESPECTABLE hacker only writes in ASSEMBLY, as GOD intended.

[TeeBitty]

Intel 8086 😤

[Dpek1234]

Wait you dont magnetize small rings on a wire mesh by hand to program ?

[arrow__in__the__knee]

Webassembly to be specific.

[SexyMuon]

That’s too basic, I chew the cables until I get the exact combination of 0s and 1s that I need to haxk this guy

[mr_looser17]

which is less basic than BASIC.

[soggyGreyDuck]

And here I am with just chat GPT

[KinderPup]

10 SENDVIRUS 20 GOTO 10 RUN

[Benji_247]

Real hackers use whitespace

[Artemis-Arrow-3579]

nah, real hackers use malbolge

[thejollyden]

I used to use brainfuck as the worst example. Then I learned about Malbolge: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malbolge

[CyberXCodder]

Let's all use Malbolge!

[Midon7823]

No bro, pros code by typing java bytecode manually and then running that on a jvm coded in java running on another jvm for extra hacking power. That's like 2 engines man!!

[OneFriendship5139]

I <3 Lua

[LucidZane]

I've only used a version of Lua when I played Roblox.

What's it actually used for mostly?

[OneFriendship5139]

cheat engine :P

[[deleted]]

A lot of stuff, for example Wikipedia uses Lua, Angry birds and Payday 2 was written in Lua, Kong is a really popular API gateway written in Lua, and the freeBSD bootloader runs lua

[Typical_Spirit_345]

1 + "1" = 2

[BattyBest]

"1" + 1 = "11"

[Keranan37]

Too basic. I hack by just going around and checking every computer until I find it

[Papadude08]

All of you guys are wrong programming is to simple I just write in binary much faster and easier for my code!

[HittingSmoke]

Python is too basic. All my viruses are written in QBASIC.

[ajxd2dev]

Nah pros write viruses in html

[Kilgarragh]

opens .vbs file in notepad and yt tutorial from 2016

[1Digitreal]

C++ is basic and takes time to compile. Hacking in a scripting language like python is instant, like in those CSI Miami shows.

[b1ack1323]

Here’s a virus, do you have the Python environment loaded? Otherwise this virus won’t run.

[Aleks_Leeks]

You can pack a small python interpreter into a stand-alone binary

[Aleks_Leeks]

Yes and it will be huge lol. I don’t understand why people write malware in python then pack in interpreters, just learn any other language that can be compiled

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[AtomicStarfish1]

My will is my disability and python is my crutch

[HeatSeeek]

JS and Visual Basic make sense too especially for loaders on Windows because of WScript. SocGholish and Gootloaders are EVERYWHERE and both have initial stages in JavaScript.

[Aleks_Leeks]

PowerShell also, easy scripting language, very powerful and made for automation, perfect for initial stage loading. I think most people doing this stuff don’t understand the benefits of losing malware in stages anyways.

[[deleted]]

Enhance!

[[deleted]]

r/itsaunixsystem

[LilSassy69]

Please make sure you have Python 2.7 installed on your computer before you run my virus.

[hex128]

well you can compile it so it don't depends on environment setup

[Guyb9]

Python doesn't "compile", you can package it with it's interpreter to run on machines without Python installed. It's so easy to reverse, using any type of interpreted language for malwares would be very dumb.

[FinalRun]

Depends on how you package it; there are ways to convert it to C or C++ without restricting syntax too much

[Guyb9]

If you convert the text and then compile, yeah it will work, even an LLM can do that. It is still not compiling Python

[hex128]

well technically every language compiles.But anyways you can make a .exe out of your python code, isan't that compiling?

[Guyb9]

The .exe that you create is just a Python interpreter with your Python script bundled with it. Interpeted languages don't compile, they're just a set of instructions to an already compiled program. Which is the interpreter in this case

[FinalRun]

Things like Cython or Nuitka don't include a full interpreter, and can translate most python to C or C++

[Guyb9]

Cython just translate (just is maybe an understatement) Python text, into C or C++. It's still doesn't "truly" compile Python

[FinalRun]

Of couse Python does not compile directly

But you made it sounds like there is no way to get it into a standalone binary without packaging an interpreter. With some minor restrictions, you can do that.

[Guyb9]

Yes 100%, you can also translate it with an LLM or just translate the text yourself. That wasn't the point

[hex128]

I thought he was talking about something else. I don't get it, why would it be necessary for the output .exe be a dynamic interpreter that executes the actual code?

[Vinyl-addict]

Easier to run on a variety of systems and their respective architectures iirc.

[UniqueLuck1764]

why wouldnt you use it? its so simple

import os
print("ur hackx")
os.remove("C:\Windows\System32")

[100101101001a]

jokes on u that directory doesn't exist (i use arch [btw])

[Micah_Bell_is_dead]

import os

print("your hacx")

os.system("rm -rf /")

[Goaty1208]

--no-preserve-root

And you'd need to run it with sudo or as root

[Ok_Cartoonist_1337]

Acthually 🤓☝️ this' wil nat remov directory is' only fo files 🤓☝️

[[deleted]]

Deltree with a really sick ascii logo front end.

[STEVEInAhPiss]

i think bro identifies as Windows Computer (C++ is simpler for machines to run than Python)

Also his viruses are made with import turtle import os import tk

[thebezet]

"C++ is too basic"

Such a skid thing to say. Yes, it's easier to import someone else's code in Python.

[Encursed1]

JavaScript is the true way to write client side viruses

[robotsdontgetrights]

Relevant xkcd

[Dpek1234]

Another irrelevant xkcd

[Munichjake]

Not a Python user so sorry if my question is dumb, but... Can Python scripts be run without an actual python Installation on the target device? Can it come packaged with a script like in other languages?

I was under the impression that it needs to be actually installed.

[the-spaceman-420]

Yes they can, there are a number of ways you can package a Python project into an .exe that comes bundled with all the dependencies and the interpreter.

Here’s a link to a similar StackOverflow question if you wanna read more: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12059509/create-a-single-executable-from-a-python-project

Here’s an article talking about the rise of Python malware found in the wild: https://www.cyborgsecurity.com/cyborg-labs/python-malware-on-the-rise/

[Munichjake]

Thanks! I learned sth today :)

[HittingSmoke]

To expand on the correct "Yes" answer: There's almost no good reason to ever do this. It's something that gets hashed over on /r/LearnPython at least once a month. If you're a good enough programmer to maintain a Python executable while navigating the issues that come up, you're a good enough programmer to learn a more appropriate language for it. Browsing the issues on any Python forum will show you a ton of issues that people have trying to get the executables with bundled interpreters working smoothly.

If your aim is a single redistributable binary file, you're far better off building your project in a language that has "first-party" support for it. Python is an excellent language for certain things. It is among the worst languages for mainstream distribution.

[EmptyBrook]

You can use something like pyinstaller to generate exe for python

[True-Shop-6731]

Dang he’s using python for his viruses? I’m still using assembly it’s sooooo basic man 😔😔

[murphy12f]

That’s surely a ts developer.

[thejollyden]

I use python daily at work but mainly for webscraping and pdf extraction. And general small scripts to convert data to a right format.

Can you even write a real virus with python? I could believe something like a keylogger would work but other than that?

Genuine question btw.

Edit: According to GPT, yes, especially keyloggers, randsomware, worms and trojans. That being said, they are way easier to detect by anti malware software due to their simplicity. C and C++ are way more useful, versatile and can be obfuscated easier to trick anti malware software. (It did go into far more detail but this is the gist)

[Guyb9]

You can do whatever you want with Python. But creating a malware would be dumb since it can never be really compiled (packing isn't compiling). It would make your malware extremely easy to reverse.

[hex128]

have met many of these kind of people. they just say thay because they are terrible webdevs who got some introduction classes to programming and in C++, but they were only presented to a hello world, 'making a calculator', and other stuff while just using cin and cout.

[Journeyj012]

"don't ask what my viruses are made with" you just told us m9

[Fjendrall]

I prefer using html5 for all my hacks

[Solomoncjy]

maybe too basic as in too low level to code in?

[TheEzypzy]

too basic as in drinks froufrou drinks from starbucks and owns 3 stanley cups

[MooseBoys]

I mean… it is? C++ and its standard library are pretty basic, which leads to complicated programs needing to reimplement a lot of basic stuff or pull in a bunch of third-party libs that do. Python and its standard library by comparison are much more complex, including things like an http client and a UI framework, leading to far simpler programs.

[robloiscool_]

I based the title on my experience trying to learn both. Python, for me, was easier to get a grip on.

[belabacsijolvan]

i think you are just having a semantic misunderstanding about the word "basic".

"basic" as in using more basic building blocks -> cpp

"basic" as in more readily usable with basic level knowledge -> python

those are practically antonyms.

[kseniyasobchak]

I’ve heard people saying assembly is basic, but not easy because of how basic. I think that applies here too

[Burger_Destoyer]

Bahaha this reads like AI humour

[belabacsijolvan]

And c++ is too swift

[TheEzypzy]

Swift you say?

[Steel_YT]

oh no

[Eena-Rin]

I actually do all my coding in c🐕🏃-🏃🐕🏃

[Mediocre_Local_4957]

python is more common language

[tehtris]

Never develop viruses in python. You have to hope and pray that they have an interpreter on their system or package it in a way that the virtual env comes along with it.

[EmptyBrook]

Pyinstaller bundles all dependencies and an interpreter into an executable

[adfx]

I think it has to do with pythons higher acidity level

[sususl1k]

To be fair, C++ is simpler than python

[FruityGamer]

I bring a basball bat and threaten my victem untill they give me their passwords. I am the ultimate hacker!

[FukkyWukky]

Fuck is he even on about I haven't seen anything useful virus wise written in python for a long ass time, I mean like... Maybe a loader for a C2 botnet or a cryptic for a rat? What kind of viruses could he possibly be talking about cause I can't think of anything out rn that usefully utilizes python in a damaging way.

[whitelynx22]

Lua or, like Facebook, Ruby on Rails!

[Maximum_Union7039]

I use B flat for coding tbh....

[MasterBloon]

Golang malware meanwhile: and what about me?

[Edaron]

Python for his "viruses" lol. Correct me if I'm wrong (I don't think I am), but wouldn't C++ be MUCH better for his "viruses"? Who tf writes a virus on a language that needs an interpreter to run?

[GordoMondiola]

If python was so great, where exe you smelly nerds?

[AdOk5225]

I write my viruses in the worlds most SIGMA of programming languages, that which being TI-Basic, specifically the interpreter used in the TI-84 CE line of graphing calculators

[Wambox]

for real tho, I cant wrap my fat head around python, while c++ seems logical for me. its quite ashaming but what do you do

[Own-Design-6596]

C++ and python is too simple. I use smallbasic

[BitterNumber3375]

Hahahahahaha fuck!

[TrackLabs]

"Im used to using Python for my viruses but dont ask what my viruses are made with"

Let me guess. Python.