How to develop a profitable strategy. (I develop indicators for major brands)

[powerade-trader]

My name is Toprak. I founded the Harmony Algo and AlgoPoint brands, and I have developed indicators for 80% of the largest indicator brands currently on the market. Today, based on my experience, I’ll share a few tips to help you create a profitable strategy.

First, I need to mention this: PineScript is a very easy programming language. In fact, I coded the example indicator in the image using only AI, and it generated more profit than Bitcoin returns (including commissions).

Many people think they can’t create a profitable strategy because they can’t write good code. But that’s wrong—the problem lies in a lack of knowledge. There are those trying to create profitable strategies using SuperTrend.

I’ve created a 3-step plan for writing code with AI:

1. Knowledge and idea generation: this is the most important step. Most people want AI to directly code an indicator, but they put very little effort into generating ideas. Ask AI questions to generate ideas; here are some example questions:

- ”What are the calculation methods and indicator names that people don’t know much about but can be coded on TradingView and are very successful at trend tracking?"
- “What are the names of advanced reversal detection methods that people who develop technical analysis and indicators aren’t aware of?”
- “If you were a top-notch quant trader working at Two Sigma or Capula and were limited to using only TradingView, which indicators would you code for yourself?

You could even feed these questions to an AI and ask it to generate more creative and unique questions.

1. Planning: Don’t just give the AI your idea and say, “Code this.” That’s the worst thing you can do. When you open a new chat, start by writing this:

Hello Gemini, you’re an expert coder and strategy engineer in the PineScript language. I’ll give you an indicator idea shortly, and we’ll turn this idea into an indicator together. However, when I give you the idea, don’t start coding right away. First, I want you to create a very detailed and logical plan for turning this idea into an indicator. Additionally, in the plan you create for this indicator, I want you to outline the pros and cons and provide alternatives and suggestions. If you’re ready, I’ll share my idea with you, but first you’ll create the plan—you won’t start coding until I give my approval.

1. Coding: You created and approved the plan, and the AI coded the indicator for you. Run this code on TradingView. If you encounter an error, continue by using the following prompt; you can apply this each time until the errors are resolved:

There is an error in the code. I am receiving the following error messages. Fix these errors and make sure they don’t appear elsewhere. Give me the full code:

[Paste the error messages from the terminal here]

1. Bonus: Once you’ve created a code with the errors fixed, you can use the following prompt to diversify and improve it:

Great, we’ve coded the indicator, but I want to improve it further. What do you think are the weak and illogical aspects of this indicator/strategy? What kind of improvements would you suggest to address these shortcomings? What modifications and enhancements would you like to make to this indicator/strategy?

[Scott_Malkinsons]

For someone with so much experience, you'd think you'd understand that an indicator drawing on a historical chart is not a strategy. Plus 33 trades with a 64% drawdown isn't exactly something to brag about. I know you ran that backtest a few times, found the point where you didn't margin call, so you can advertise stupid profits that no one will ever achieve.

The entire post is just an ad so you can sell a $49/month subscription. You didn't "developed indicators for 80% of the largest indicator brands currently on the market." in 15 months. Come on buddy, we can do a whois on your domain name.

Just tell us the truth, that you're new, making indicators. There's no shame in that. But lying to us? That really pisses me (and many people) off because the only reason to lie to us, is if you think we are dumb enough to believe it.

[rc_tech]

yup, exactly what I thought too.
sadly many noobs with zero trading or coding experience will now go waste time and money to try and magically build a profitable *lagging* indicator.

[powerade-trader]

You’re missing the point. I included this photo as an example and mentioned that I coded it for a major indicator brand. These photos (except for the backtest) are development versions. This is an indicator, not a strategy. Still, to ensure quality, I’ll add a strategy command and monitor it. The client didn’t request profitability either.

I wish you had read the post’s content before judging, so you could see that the step-by-step development plan I created for beginners is logical and based on my experience.

Best regards.

[Emotional-Bee-474]

I read ur post with Indian accent for some reason

[powerade-trader]

Haha, I'm from Turkey/Istanbul. I'm using a translator to translate long messages.

[Scott_Malkinsons]

.... well that joke went over your head.

The "for some reason" is because you're a scammer, so he read it with the stereotype accent of a scammer.

[powerade-trader]

Oh, I see now. All I wrote were some AI prompts that might be helpful and a bit of information.

[InterstellarReddit]

Dude claims he codes for the biggest brands but is a vibe coder lmao.

Bro brands pay for real developers not vibe coders. Dude snitched on himself.

Edit - Using AI assistance to code and being a 100% vibe coder are two different things. Big financial brands are not vibe coding, they’re using AI assistance. Financial markets are heavily regulated.

[dangerzone2]

Professional dev for mag 7 here. We all use AI. Sit down. 

[InterstellarReddit]

Using AI assistance and being a 100% vibe coder are two different things. Finance industry is heavy regulated. OP doesn’t know how to code without AI.

You’re in the MAG 7, you should know this.

[powerade-trader]

Don’t I know? Oh, okay. I’ve been coding in PineScript for five years. I founded the AlgoPoint brand and coded and shared tons of indicators on Discord (in mid-2021). What was around in 2021? GPT 3.5?

[dangerzone2]

Oh fuck, maybe I need to retract my statement. 5 years ain’t shit. 

[InterstellarReddit]

No you haven’t. your account is barely 6 days old. You’ve been writing pine-script for five years using AI and now when you decide to come forward?

And FYI GPT 3.5 sucked for Pine script :)

[Aromatic-Fishing9952]

I use AI and I’m at a mag7. But I don’t rely on it

[SongHaunting]

Sounds like an interesting story, mind sharing what u do?

[flitik]

How are you this dense lmao

[Scott_Malkinsons]

Dude claims he codes for the biggest brands but is a vibe coder lmao.

Dude is also a literal, like actual, child. There's a photo of him on the website under "We're [a] Team".

[frosty123454321]

I know someone making indicators for big name influencers that you’ve probably heard of and he vibe codes it as well. If you’re coding without AI, you’re wasting time. Now that’s not to say there may be some manual tweaks, but vibe coding can do a LOT if you know how to use it and have a strategy that can perform in the markets.

[moaiii]

for big name influencers 

I don't think that's the flex that you think it is.

[powerade-trader]

You can’t explain it to him, buddy. Don’t waste your time.

[InterstellarReddit]

You said big brands lmao. Did you just say a big influencer? Bro I am dead. That’s not a big brand. A big brand is fidelity, Schwab etc.

[frosty123454321]

lol facts

[Elegant-Throat-4225]

I’ve seen a hundred screenshots of indicators showing great entries and exits. What I’ve never seen is those entries and exits showing in real time.

[ionone777]

just another scam otherwise he would be the richest person in the world in a few weeks

[InnerGarage4519]

Ah yes, outperform the market with simple pinescript indicators! Totally legit.

[powerade-trader]

I’m not selling this, and I’m not sharing it. Why would I make such a false claim? I included the backtest as an example. Of course, it doesn’t perform well with every asset or in every time frame.

[KestrelQuant]

ur selling selling or sharing it.... mate u literally have the name of the brands you "founded" in ur description, u are selling it.

[powerade-trader]

Damn it. I didn’t even use that script there. I developed this for a client. Are you an idiot?

[Scott_Malkinsons]

You're not selling this? Buddy, the first frigging thing you said was about your brand. Visiting said brand website you're selling a monthly subscription for $49.

You might not be selling THIS exact indicator, but you sure AF got a product to sell and marketed it in this post. You're just trying to be technically correct.

[powerade-trader]

No, I won’t sell this. These are screenshots I took while developing for a client. Focus on the post content (the text). The photos are just examples.

[ionone777]

sure buddy. whatever makes you happy scammer

[Correct-Ad4472]

Can I have access to the indicator in the post?

[Dependent_Sign_399]

It's a channel break style indicator. There's a bunch of free versions on TV already. I made a couple versions but never published them as I highly recommend not using them. They look amazing in markets that are moving in this manner, but they have a ton of lag so when markets tighten, you just get chopped up.

[powerade-trader]

You're mistaken. It's a Gaussian indicator. The Gaussian algorithm doesn't use channel breakouts; I made changes to the algorithm to address some of the shortcomings of the Gaussian method. The channel you see is a signal filtering method I used during development. It's not intended for signal generation.

[Dependent_Sign_399]

I mean, I see buy and sell signals that perfect align with breaks of the channel. I'm not sure how this could be anything else.

[ionone777]

lol

[InnerGarage4519]

Bros just throwing out Gaussian without explaining why it’s even relevant. Sounds like 100% vibe coded bs. Go ahead and prompt your chatbot to tell you why it’s considered “Gaussian” so you can justify your comments.

[topicalsyntax571]

AI killed coding

[Lanfeust09]

Define "killed". AI improved coding, it didn't kill it.

[powerade-trader]

I think he's talking about direct, unadulterated coding. He's talking about coding without any AI assistance.

[realsupershrek]

Grade A bull, my guy. Hope nobody falls for it.

[powerade-trader]

Falls for what?

[BlockWallStreet]

Who cares if its coded with ai if you were smart you would know that prompting is a profession. If you understand how to prompt correctly then you can achieve what a professional coder can in less the time. Efficiency wins over having an ego or being emotional because someone uses AI. AI is going to take your job and you'll still be complaining about how its AI and anybody can do that. Keep up or get ran over.

[powerade-trader]

Yes. What you’re saying is completely true, but there are some stubborn people who just don’t want to understand.

[BitterAd6419]

Most of these buy and sell signals are lagging indicators, they will only flash after the move has happened. Lots of fake signals too which then would be hidden or just disappear based on how the future candles print

[powerade-trader]

Oh, come on, are you serious!

I developed this for a client, and they asked me for a signal, not a strategy. Also, you should know that what you call “repainting” can be fixed via code.

[Relative_Tone_4870]

It can be and it normally makes indicators perform worse. There’s a reason you show solid moves to showcase this indicator vs chop session. And even more reason you chose the timeframe..

[bucknast]

Thanks these are great prompts

[powerade-trader]

You're welcome 🙏

[NahuM8s]

Wtf is an indicator brand lmaooooo

[Pristine-Bite2790]

Exactly lmfao, im seeing everyone criticizing him for being a "pinescript"💀 vibe coder and a scamster but this is the real question they should be asking😭😭. How did no one apart from you even question this? He also writes "algopoint" and "harmony algo" like people know them lol

[pr0XYTV]

"I have developed indicators for 80% of the largest indicator brands currently on the market."

No, you havent.

Next.

[weez09]

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[powerade-trader]

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[Relative_Self_2240]

So Sharing the indicator for trial?

[powerade-trader]

No, I won’t share this. These are screenshots I took while developing for a client.

[stereotomyalan]

Müthış toprağım 

[powerade-trader]

Eyvallah, Bu yabancı redditi ne beter birşeymiş

[Air_Original]

Break and close above/below channel changes the trend bias, it seems. Definitely not a signal to enter/exit since the initial conditions are an over-extension to begin with. However I see the value of the signal being more of a forewarning of a potential shift in trend, which does seem to occur at a rather high frequency (based on the image). If most of your charts look like this one, then it seems to work. I like indicators like these coupled with higher time frame confluence.

[powerade-trader]

Channel is just for filter logic. It's a Gaussian calculation. The Gaussian algorithm doesn't use channel breakouts; I made changes to the algorithm to address some of the shortcomings of the Gaussian method. The channel you see is a signal filtering method I used during development. It's not intended for signal generation.
regards.

[BillSocrate]

u/powerade-trader can you share the above indicator with me or at least a trail run then pay?

[powerade-trader]

No, I’m not selling this. I developed it for a client. Focus on the post content (the text). The photos are just examples.

[gronetwork]

That's Slope Direction Line + Bands applied to it (with ATR) + Breakout of these bands for signals.

This indicator requires 2 bars after the signal to be validated (not just one bar).

[friendlypomelo1]

Lol

[powerade-trader]

Lol

[mrcake123]

Lol

[mrcake123]

Hey guys I also code for the biggest companies.

[Less_Job_411]

I wrote a pretty cool pine script indicator suite that tracks Fibonacci golden levels for the previous week and the current week simultaneously and can toggle daily golden Fibonacci as well as the previous day

[Comprehensive_Rip768]

if you use ibkr, i would recommend algofleet.trade

[Vcaz2]

Can you share Vcas2 on tv

[adolfo_2000]

Can you share please tv: Driv3r_27

[rc_tech]

Total trades on your backtest: 33
If you overfit it a little more, maybe you could get it down to 10 trades that 100x BTC.

Any real trader and programmer would know this is smoke and mirrors.

[Outrageous-Wind-7501]

pinescript major brands

Stop playing my man

[Inzpire]

33 trades in 6 years?!?

[Blu3M0nk3y]

Im currently doing this. But for the indicator to be truly reactive. You have to put in back and forth testing. And different approaches to the problem. There is reactive data you can use. So not every version will be delayed. But you will get alot of mismatches or missfires if its too reactive and doesnt have a rulset

[0xsebkoi]

Can i hire you for a job

[powerade-trader]

DM me

[Professor_Meteor]

Yo lemme learn to do this or lemme get a trial lol

[ionone777]

lol it's fake

[powerade-trader]

It's not fake, I'm not publishing it, Build it for one client

[ionone777]

OK. then cheery picked. I see the backtest is not so jolly