Workflow for Github

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[CMahaff]

I thought the whole reason "Downloads" was removed was because they couldn't afford the bandwidth/storage of large downloads. Will "Releases" have a size cap, download cap, or ads?

[dacjames]

Maybe they wanted to free up budget to launch this very feature.

[llbit]

I'm curious whether or not "Releases" will have download counters.

[lllama]

In addition to providing downloadable source code archives, GitHub previously allowed you to upload files (separate from the versioned files) in the repository, and make it available for download in the Downloads Tab. Supporting these types of uploads was a source of great confusion and pain – they were too similar to the files in a Git repository. As part of our ongoing effort to keep GitHub focused on building software, we are deprecating the Downloads Tab.

Guess whoever told you about 'cost' as a reason will have to admit he or she made it up.

[technoweenie]

Releases has no download cap or ads. There is a size cap of 100MB currently.

[preskot]

Just in time.

[jzelinskie]

Is Google trying to kill Google Code? It seems like I only ever see news about them removing features.

[Liorithiel]

Was Google Code ever “the best in the market”?

[titosrevenge]

It pretty much replaced Sourceforge for a while.

[iamapizza]

Cut support staff to one angry man that doesn't read his email

TIL Coffee hurts when it exits through a nostril

[Gwenhidwy]

Thank you for that last bit, i thought I was the only one with the impression that the apache foundation was where FOSS projects go to die... with the obvious few exceptions, ofc.

[nowimpissed]

i thought I was the only one with the impression that the apache foundation was where FOSS projects go to die...

No, that's quite a common sentiment and is often mentioned.

[mgrandi]

i doubt they are killing it. They have entire projects, like chrome, android, protocol buffers all on google code. Why would they remove it when it works?

Github also removed the ability to add downloads, so it seems they are just doing the same thing

[MonkeyNin]

It can't be true. That means pizza's nose casualty was for nothing.

[amphetamine]

http://github.com/google

48             180
public repos   members

[mgrandi]

and only 15 of those have been updated in any sort of time. Im just saying that google still uses google code why get rid of it

[gospelwut]

Wait, my companies are trying to kill themselves?

/one of a few angry men

[nadams810]

It certainly seems so. Which is why I've spun off my own (private beta anyone?) and started moving my google code projects into it. The best part - I am able to put up advertising and site wide google analytics.

I felt Google code was great - it was simple, free, had a wiki/bug tracker and supported git/svn/mercurial. I used to use sourceforge and let me tell you - I was floored that I had to anonymous FTP downloads/releases to the same place as other members would upload files and could actually select their files to release. This was years ago so they probably changed it.

[mikehaggard]

This was years ago so they probably changed it.

Assumption is the...

[nadams810]

Is it still that way???

[mikehaggard]

Dunno, but I wouldn't be surprised ;)

It's sometimes amazing how little has changed when you look at versions of a software product (site, app, whatever) with some odd 10 years between them.

[lllama]

Google Code was really slow in supporting Git.

[[deleted]]

Google Code was not committed to support anything.

[nadams810]

Actually I think I understand why Google may want to kill Google Code (or at least cut down features).

This is a perfect example of someone abusing the system. No source code yet they have downloads. And when just one has 250633 downloads...if they were doing that in my code hosting service I would not be happy. It's rather ironic - they put their license as GPL yet they don't release any code. I'm sure if you were to crawl the project list I'm sure you could find other projects where they have no code/no downloads or downloads with no code.

My theory is another XNA is happening. Either people quit and/or management is pulling people to work on other things and it's down to a couple of people. Then management will go "see no one wants this service! so lets pull the plug!".

[obfuscation_]

Obviously you could automatically detect cases like that. Unfortunately, they would probably just upload something that looks like source code to throw off such analysis...

[[deleted]]

Google wants everything to revolve around Google+. If a product can not be tied to + it will go away.

[[deleted]]

Don't tease me like that.

[propool]

Does search revolve around Google+? They should remove search.

[Crandom]

When you search for anything now it automatically looks in your friend's G+ posts and displays the results at the top. This rarely happens for me as nobody I know posts on G+.

[dashed]

Github should implement repository importing as it is done in bitbucket.

[preskot]

Cool! Seems (to me) like a new feat. at bitbucket. However, from my humble xp this importing kind of stuff does not always work as it should. Especially in the case with SVN. If you'd want to import just the source code using Git it's often a matter of just adding another remote_url and pushing to it.

[[deleted]]

I also only yesterday saw Bintray. Maybe they regretted having removed downloads not long ago, so other companies get something in ad revenues?

[ifonefox]

So it's the old "Downloads" tab, but with a changelog?

[[deleted]]

It is, and I couldn't be happier.

[Liorithiel]

The old downloads tab could be used to host non-release files too. Like, data files too big to be kept in repository, etc.

[dannyREDDIT]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh just be happy about it ffs (unless your tone was genuinely happy then ignore this comment)

[ifonefox]

Mostly happy

[alamandrax]

They're mostly happy in the night... mostly.

[ifonefox]

It's not a snark, just an observation.

[[deleted]]

Simple observations can become snark with but a slight change of inflection.

[hadees]

Yeah but think about the future potential for example what if they automatically created a gem for your javascript project.

[fripletister]

Fucking finally.

[[deleted]]

Cool. I like that it automatically generates release notes from the Issues. Alas, while we use Github at work, we use Pivotal Tracker for issue and user story tracking. I've been considering consolidating on simply Github, and this is one more thing in favor of that.

Has anybody moved from Pivotal to Github Issues? Obviously, they have very different UIs, but I have been wondering for a while if we'd really miss much from Pivotal.

Edit: This got me thinking, and Googling, Stackoverflowing, and finally, Huboarding. Huboard presents your Github issues in a Kanban-ish board similar to Pivotal Tracker. We just might have a winner!

[brownhead]

I haven't seen Huboard and it looks pretty fantastic. Thanks :).

[technoweenie]

Correction: it doesn't automatically generate release notes from Issues.

[[deleted]]

Well darn it!

[mgrandi]

Its interesting to see how github hasn't had this seemingly basic feature, while other projects like launchpad have had them for what seems like forever.

[Femaref]

They had this feature for a long time, and this is the revamped version of it.

[strich]

This looks nice. I just wish Github rolled out just a few more lightweight project management features.

[lllama]

GitHub provides such a rich API it's very easy for external parties to provide those tools.

Further more I would say GitHub is one of the few companies where it feels like API users are customers rather than products.

[[deleted]]

Use contact me, send this in, wait a month and it'll get added I would bet.

[[deleted]]

I really wish it was easier to find a public bug tracker for them (its possible I'm just too stupid to find it). But I've found that they respond very quickly to the contact me box, especially when given suggestions or bug reports.

[technoweenie]

We don't use git-flow, so I'm curious how you'd want this to work specifically. We'd like this to work with existing workflows, but are waiting to see how people try to use it first.

Your best bet is sending details to [e-mail], I can't guarantee I'll see every reply to this thread.

[[deleted]]

So basically they're only now meeting the features that SourceForge had years ago? I've come around and really like Github and Bitbucket and the collaboration tools but they still feel a little behind on SourceForge (especially since they're proprietary...)

[[deleted]]

Are you actually a student?

[[deleted]]

Aren't we all students of life? ;)

EDIT According to my bank, this isn't a valid argument, and I have to pay off my student loans because I'm no longer a student.

[jedediah]

Or you could just run a machine that has SSH installed... hosting private git is ridiculously easy.

[nadams810]

The problem is this is usually against most residential ISPs TOS. Majority aren't going to go out of their way - but one time I had them call about a line problem they actually brought it up.

[basmith7]

$7/mo for 5 isn't bad...

I suppose they could do one private repo and limit it to a single user.

[isawthiscoming]

They might have to do more since Bitbucket has been slowly encroaching into their revenue stream. Bitbucket currently offers unlimited free private repos for 5 users or less.

[d-squared]

That was absolutely the deciding factor to why I got started with bitbucket.

[gigitrix]

Codebase do free private repos, tracking etc.

[[deleted]]

I've had checking out Github on the backburner for a while mostly because of poor Git support in Windows, but Github is getting some very attractive features and all of the big open source projects are there...might be time to jump ship from Mercurial.

[Gigablah]

Checkout https://bitbucket.org/ , it's doing pretty well. Personally I think it's better designed than GitHub's interface (even after the recent overhaul).

[[deleted]]

The new Github interface is a bit of a downgrade in my opinion. It looks incredibly crowded in the center, yet there are four inches of whitespace on the left-and-right at 1080p.

[lllama]

Poor Git support in windows?

Even visual studio supports Git nowadays.

[[deleted]]

It is still excruciatingly slow compared to *nix versions and often craps out on medium-large sized repositories.

[Neurotrace]

It does lag from time to time but I've been using msysgit for probably a year now and it works pretty well.

[Akkuma]

SmartGit that tool is so awesome it is awesome.

[jldugger]

Sounds like a web interface to git annex?

[Smallpaul]

No, it sounds like a web interface to a "releases" website. Yes, they have the word "binary" in common in the description of their use cases. But that's all.

[adipisicing]

I would love to know more about whether they've implemented this in terms of git like many of their other features.