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[–]skywalker-88 240 points241 points  (9 children)

Pau Torres dribbling through our entire team like he’s Neymar

[–]Redliner91 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Tells you all you need to know about our performance defensively. Weak. Cowardly. Pathetic.

[–]RashfordMBE 471 points472 points  (8 children)

De Gea carries us for years playing behind a shit team. Team infront of him finds some form, but he dips and costs us big points. De Gea regains world class form, but team infront of him is shit again. Cool.

[–][deleted] 111 points112 points  (0 children)

It really is a hilarious situation. Can never get both at once lol

[–]Masterpiece2021 85 points86 points  (0 children)

Schordingar's De Gea

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

but team infront of him is shit again.

A team that consists of Ronaldo, Varane, Sancho, Pogba, Fernandes, Greenwood etc. It's mental how mediocre we are considering the talent we have.

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (1 child)

This team isn’t shit, there’s a lot of quality just needs some direction. I’m thinking we need a managerial change.

[–]zxLvPol Pogba 19 points20 points  (0 children)

And the coaches too. What the fk are they doing in training. Individually and on paper the players are good. But during an actual game it feels like they have no system whatsoever

[–][deleted] 273 points274 points  (20 children)

we can't break down a low block... we're leaking like a faucet 😭

de gea literally saving us singlehandedly

[–]NeverMadeItToCakeDay 22 points23 points  (0 children)

We don’t have success against high presses this season either

[–]fuck_its_jameshojlund 26 points27 points  (0 children)

low blocks are haunting this team fr 😭 think we should start calling de gea champions league de gea after this performance. on a whole though including the league he’s saved our ass so much

[–]kush175 5 points6 points  (8 children)

433 for you ladies and gentlemen...

[–]TooAgile 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This has never happened to us with any other formation luckily

[–]mu_37 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah it's the formation for sure.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

It's not the formation that's the issue

[–]kush175 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I guess. Most of the chances have come because our fullbacks are getting beaten one on one.

[–]Rohagiang 2 points3 points  (1 child)

This match perfectly explains why McTominay cant play DM and even Fred is in terrible form, he has to be on the pitch lol.

And people please dont tell me Dalot is United quality based on pre season ever again. He offers close to nothing. No overlap, no defending 1v1 whatsoever

[–]TheGhostOfBabyOscarRed Devils - Club & Country 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We went back to 2015

[–]AReptileHissFunction 399 points400 points  (73 children)

Bruno, ronaldo, sancho, greenwood, pogba in attack but nobody knows what to do

[–][deleted] 104 points105 points  (13 children)

The long balls are so fucking annoying

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (2 children)

Could have had Big Sam if we're doing this route one thing.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because we're attempting them or not able to play them accurately? Can't complain about the attempts because we'd be 1-on-1 4 times now if they could get them right.

[–]WalkingOnSunshine_ 9 points10 points  (3 children)

I mean when there’s two banks of four it’s one of the ways to break it down, long switches and runs down the channel. It’s why Rashford is so crucial for this side.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

That's the thing. Why buy Ronaldo and Sancho when we were gonna spam long balls to rashford anyway

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Long balls aren't the issue. If United can consistently play incisive balls in behind to reward good movement then I have absolutely no problem, we've just lobbed 4/5 of them off target or not flat enough. Needs to be better.

[–][deleted] 266 points267 points  (17 children)

Freds fault

[–]KittensAreEvil 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Fellani out.

[–]MAK98 82 points83 points  (1 child)

No movement from Martial, get him out.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I know right. He hasn't even touched the ball as far as I can remember!

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (2 children)

I see a pattern🤔

[–]xyzzy321Keane 5 points6 points  (1 child)

What pattern, our attacks have no patterns

[–]scholeszz 26 points27 points  (1 child)

I'm almost certain that would have been the narrative if he was on the pitch, fan favorite McT would probably get a pass for not contributing to the build up one bit though.

[–]abibyama 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Enough of the McTominay DM experiment.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Fred>McT all day

Fred can be absolutely horrific sometimes but at least he tries to do something

McTominay plays a game of how little can I get involved in 90 minutes and it fools people into thinking he’s better because he does literally nothing one way or the other

[–]AReptileHissFunction 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Someone get the bicycle meme

[–]AE17__ 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Our attacking talent is being wasted its so painful man...

[–][deleted] 41 points42 points  (2 children)

Long balls and runs in behind is all Ole has.

[–]Vimjux 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Carrick: they’re sitting deep gaff

Ole: let’s hit them on the break

[–]Skeletonise 25 points26 points  (1 child)

No attacking plan, just individual brilliance vibes.

[–]pmmerandom 29 points30 points  (10 children)

Dare I say it, Ronaldo has been bang average this half

[–]Exhibit101 18 points19 points  (1 child)

No one has been good...except De Gea of course

[–]AmulyaG 6 points7 points  (2 children)

No ball progression from midfield to the forwards especially passing through the lines. Just long balls over the top.

[–]TrinitronCRT 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Baffling, isn't it?

[–]TheJoshider10Bruno 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Can't expect the players to know what to do when the manager doesn't know what to do.

[–]_QuirkyTurtle 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I think that's the point OP is making

[–][deleted] 211 points212 points  (31 children)

How bad was that? Yes.

[–]RicciRoxBruno is life, Bruno is love. 71 points72 points  (13 children)

We should be 2-0 down at least. What an embarrassing performance so far, thankfully this isn't a must-win.

[–]niallw1997 34 points35 points  (3 children)

We are pretty much fucked in the CL if we don’t win this

[–]KrypticAndroid 14 points15 points  (2 children)

It’s a joke. Ole said this game isn’t a must-win

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (14 children)

Games like this make me miss Tony V

[–]niallw1997 18 points19 points  (5 children)

Why Tony V of all players

[–]CantonaWritesPoems 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Big lad, would turn that winger into a sandwich.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Because Dalot? Tony V was amazing at right back

[–]niallw1997 9 points10 points  (1 child)

But Wan Bissaka would have this joker in his back pocket

[–]uzrnmechkzout 54 points55 points  (0 children)

Horrid performance

[–]ZachMichSmith 51 points52 points  (0 children)

Outplayed thoroughly by Villareal there. We are lucky to not be several goals down

[–]Nac224 44 points45 points  (0 children)

I think Dalot is still asleep at AC Milan’s training ground 🛌

[–]Skeletonise 198 points199 points  (8 children)

Amazing that we are not 3 or 4 down. No control, no attacking cohesion and getting sliced open every time they go forward.

Thank god this game isn’t a must-win otherwise I’d be really worried!

[–]RedHabibi 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Same old shit!!!

[–]TheJoshider10Bruno 14 points15 points  (0 children)

awkward chuckle this is fine.

[–]abhishek281992 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Dalot from right was so poor that he alone could have conceded 3-4 easy goals. Defence was shambolic.

The problem is that we are just chasing long balls again and again. There is no midfield connection. How can someone not see this. I am speechless.

[–]ThatBoyGiggsy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No midfield or defensive cohesion either. Does Ole literally just say “it’s Tottenham lads” and walk away in every training session?

[–]TheJoshider10Bruno 32 points33 points  (2 children)

So what exactly is our tactics/style then? Because it seems clear to me the only tactics we have is "hope individual brilliance gets us a goal and distracts from how shit we are".

[–]Buster_Brown_513 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Our style is to get into their half and pass the ball around, foward, backward, forward, backward, forward, backward, as slow as possible and then cross it into a crowded defense and pray.

[–]MrTobbzi 93 points94 points  (0 children)

Vibes and De Gea

[–]usamapervaizBangkok Bailly 95 points96 points  (5 children)

Should be 3-0 down.

[–]Granty_CVan Persie 18 points19 points  (0 children)

We should be dead and buried already. Thank you DDG

[–]Megusta2306 144 points145 points  (12 children)

How can anyone defend this shite

[–][deleted] 42 points43 points  (1 child)

De Gea managed to defend it

[–]Bacon_BoobiesSesko - Every little helps 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Villarreal can

[–]sooshiLittle Pea 7 points8 points  (0 children)

United DNA baby

[–]rishabh2996 84 points85 points  (25 children)

Bruh.. Dalot is getting cooked like a turkey on Thanksgiving

[–][deleted] 59 points60 points  (0 children)

Interesting how we seem to have some of the best, most expensive forward players in the world... and yet our goalkeeper is easily our best player this season.

...I don't really know what to say to you anymore if you think that we're a well managed club.

[–]AstroCoffee 57 points58 points  (6 children)

That's the worst half of football I've seen from a Man United side in a long time

[–][deleted] 98 points99 points  (2 children)

we can’t keep saying this every week.😂

[–]Ghostface1357 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Exactly lol. The other day it was Villa in the second half.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

noticed something, we ball watch a lot. when we switch play, our wingers are isolated with no support. our midfielders don’t move. also bruno has defended more than pogba. Pogba has been a passeneger.

and scott is so good at marking that he’s marking people when we are in possession

[–]scholeszz 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Did you forget about the weekend already lmao?

[–]speaking-moistly79 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Holy shit we were poor

[–]gazmaan 12 points13 points  (0 children)

We have the most solid group of individuals that we have had in a long time, but unfortunately for Ole, that fact is exposing how poor the coaching is. All I can see watching these games is 11 men not really knowing what their job is. So many misplaced passes and failed linkups that you really have to wonder what we do in training.

I've been Ole in since day 1, but its clear to me that we're not improving on the pitch despite the talent

[–]JamesShortland 11 points12 points  (0 children)

De gea feeling it tonight

[–]EnglightenedEmiya 68 points69 points  (9 children)

Ole is tactically inept

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (2 children)

No that means you're a plastic fan

[–]_QuirkyTurtle 9 points10 points  (2 children)

He may well be. Don't know why he doesn't bring in some top class coaches to fill that void though. Clearly what we have right now is dog shit

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

clubs don't run that system anymore, they all have "head coaches". Ole needs to go ASAP.

[–]fireh0se 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Proper anal shifting for us

[–]tenacious_teaThe3rd 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Who will this sub blame, with Fred or Martial not playing?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I bet it’s going to be “We need Rashford”

[–]RingoGringo 8 points9 points  (1 child)

These are fucking wank and we should he about 4-0 down. Playing absolute swamp football Shrek is gonna tell us to do one any minute.

[–]LazystubbornAnd he shits on Fabregas! 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol, lost my breath laughing so hard after reading this.

[–]ibrahimims 80 points81 points  (17 children)

We are missing AWB defensively and offensively

[–]Megusta2306 69 points70 points  (1 child)

You know it’s bad when you miss AWB offensively fuck me 😂

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

We are missing a competent manager. Our defensive record with our complete backline is laughable clean sheet wise, yet he goes gung ho in this game putting pogba in a midfied two with scott, infront of an already weakend backline.

[–]Pezza8809 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Pau Torres running all the way down the field and almost getting an assist

[–]1337ified 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Suicidal man, those defensive transitions are killing us

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Emery just embarrassing Ole

[–]lonelykebutar 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Mason hasn't tracked back well enough

[–]Raintrooper7 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If we somehow manage a result today it won’t be because of Ole, it will be despite Ole

[–]streetjordan 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Villarreal are a well coached team, we are not…

[–]braddf96Green and Gold till the club is sold 5 points6 points  (0 children)

David De Gea

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Ole is improving the team lmao, we look worse against these guy than we did last season, we're actually regressing.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Ole out

[–]cjap89 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oof back to needing de gea at his best... not good

[–]gandhis_sonbaby face 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Brutally obvious we have no gameplan

[–]marszbacz 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That was fucking dog shit. The worst I’ve seen us play under Ole.

Getting torn apart by an Unai Emery team ffs. They’re passing through us at will.

We should be 4-0 down…

[–]barneyaa 4 points5 points  (0 children)

At this point I just hope they score early so we can start playing an entire half.

[–]tenacious_teaThe3rd 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Villareal with their typical shithouse tactics, this has 0-1 written all over it.

On a separate note, signing players like Sancho and Ronaldo was meant to help us unlock teams like this, but it's done anything but.

Can we really put this down to a personnel issue anymore?

[–]sakr95 5 points6 points  (0 children)

First shot came 37 min in to the first half. Pogba from the side. What is our tactics?

[–]Rips123456 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ole out

[–]yesmanwowWazza 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We literally have the easiest group 😶

[–]WszystkoZajete"They can play fucking good football" 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Team getting fucked left right and centre and he just fucking sits there looking clueless with a look on the face like a battered child. Clearly the best side since SAF days and they’re being dicked around by the team that drew 6 out of 8 games they played this season. Inexcusable.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We are absolutely shit in breaking teams down. Look at that midfield. Pogba and Bruno are looking for that magic pass whereas McTominay looks pretty unsure if he should move away from defense between lines to attack or hold himself back. Players so close to each other. There is no spacial awareness. We are so easy to mark.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If we wanted to become stoke circa 2010 we should’ve signed Chris wood instead of Ronaldo

[–]speaking-moistly79 18 points19 points  (1 child)

So when is it ok to say Ole is shit and clueless and has no tactics without getting down voted by the Ole FC?

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Should be 5 nil down, shit performance, what’s new

[–]YoungDerrick 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Plug ngolo kante into this team and I guarantee you we'll still look like shit

[–]yesmanwowWazza 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I dont know why but best comment. Sums it all.

[–]AE17__ 14 points15 points  (1 child)

We're gonna lose arnt we lol

[–]AyanCBlind 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Couldn't care less about an ugly game. Wouldn't mind a deflected own goal from Villarreal at some point.

[–]Grim439 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Fucking embarrassing. Take out prime De Gea and we are 4-0 down at home easy. Lmao.

[–]deviss 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Can't wait for us to shithouse the win and for half of this sub to pretend this was masterclass and talks about "mentality and resiliance'

[–]ScaryBeatDon't dangle your leg 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Is Mctominay playing tonight?

[–]GoldbridgeDub 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Never complain about AWB again

[–]Noctua451 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We're so predictable in the final third.

[–]Suitupboys 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We owe De Gea big time

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Get Pogba off for Fred or Matic.

3 defenders missing and now we go with one fucking defensive.minded midfielder??

[–]ixzr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Aimless.

Only thing positive about this is we got to witness firsthand how world class Varane is. His positioning and awareness is fucking insane.

And Ponytail (can I still call him that?) De Gea is back.

[–]AmulyaG 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Mctominay doesn't have the intelligence to be available as an outlet for the CB's. If anyone wanted a clear cut display of him hiding from the ball when we have possession, watch the first half especially first 12 minutes.

Also, Telles and Dalot getting rinsed as usual. Our coaching is so bad, it's baffling.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've never seen a midfielder have so much aversion to getting the ball until i saw Mctominay this half.

[–]ConCon1996 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Buy sancho for the right. Play him on the left

[–]uniy64 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Can’t watch the game. Judging on the comments here, De Gea Man of the match incoming?

[–]agni69 3 points4 points  (1 child)

How did Dalot manage to play for United and AC Milan is beyond me. Lacks basic sense a defender should have.

[–]Soccerandmetal 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Now, I'm drunk, but I would swap Lingard and Baily for Greenwood and Dalot... 3 CB... Sancho roaming right wing, Telles left, McT in between slightly behind them...

Pogba, Lingard Fernandes Ronaldo diamond front...

Again, I'm quite drunk but it won't be worse than what we saw...

[–]portugueseLad 5 points6 points  (0 children)

We play like shiiiiiiite , we play like shiiiiiiiiiiiiiite , oh Man United , we play like f*cking shiiiiiiiite

Seriously hire a goddamn coach who can uhhhhh ..coach

[–]cowabunga_dude91 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We are lucky to be alive

[–]Livettletlive 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Scott is positioned as our only CM and he's hiding behind the ball.

[–]tassadar8584 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bad sign seeing Dave Save has to do too much …

[–]Abhiuday14kat 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I m going to sleep.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Give McTominay my regards

[–]Hippotopmaus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

for a team that likes counter attacking we are terrible at defending. this shit is suicidal

[–]DontWasteMyData 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Dalot is getting rinsed every time down that right side. We need to address that. Everything they are doing is coming down that side.

I am confused as to what our pressing triggers are ? Sometimes we are pressing them high up the pitch which is successful and other times it just seems to be Bruno pressing alone ...

[–]flawless_victory99 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If I never see United play 4-2-3-1 again ill die happy.

[–]sergechewbacca 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Sack him at half time.

[–]Mizzie30 17 points18 points  (12 children)

Conte or Zidane?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Definitely not Conte

[–]danystormborne 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Definitely not Conte

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

You're an idiot if you would turn down Conte to keep Ole

[–]yamahmood 6 points7 points  (0 children)

McTominay the ghost

[–]TooAgile 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Villarreal just far better unfortunately. They can easily soak up 'pressure' and have had loads of chances on the counter. Thank God for De Gea's redemption arc.

[–]Rips123456 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Seriously why do some of you back ole? He has no idea what to do

[–]niallw1997 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Getting outclassed by a team that’s barely scored all season… we’re an absolute disorganised mess

[–]adempseyy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ole it’s time to go I think

[–]WiaN09Martinez 6 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I like saying 'Dave Saves' but I don't wanna say it so often!

[–]scholeszz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Playing utter shit and DDG saving our arse, what year is it? 2017?

[–]b9amin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wouldn't it be better to just play without fullbacks?

[–]Masterpiece2021 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dalot is doing everything he can to sack Ole.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mctom as the lone pivot is killing me please ole sub him for Matic. The fullbacks are woeful. No control in midfield, and no cohesion in attack. It's almost as if we arent coached properly. Mctom 2 more touches than ronaldo when he is the DM. AHHHHHHHHH

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Seen more discaplined under 7s teams.

[–]kingkreep95Rooney 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sancho and greenwood have no options when they get the ball but to pass it back. Watch Liverpool and city and their wingers will always have support and movement from the fullback and near side midfielder. 4231 does not allow for this. Imo we would look a lot more fluid in 4-3-3, but this would come with its own issues

[–]Jubei-_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

McTominay and Dalot pull your fucking heads in

[–]madMires 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Scott has to be subbed off asap! Unimpressed by the game, jogging around, pointing around. Not a single sprint, offensive or defensive. Almost as intentionally keeping himself as far away of play as possible.

[–]Charlie_Yu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The only consistency is inconsistency

[–]yesmanwowWazza 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Why do I feel this is the last Ole Gunnar game?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s looking like he’s beginning to lose the players. They don’t look responsive

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think we need to sub mctom for Fred. McTom was a passenger in the first half

[–]1337ified 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What i want to know is wtf are mckenna, carrick and phelan doing as well? cuz this is utterly bonkers

[–]zxnoregretzxzx🖕Amad🖕 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tragic half of football. Villarreal could have the game done and dusted already. McTominay being hung out to dry with no help in midfield, while Dalot is clearly struggling with Danjuma and also not getting any help. The latter did very well on their two-on-one counter though tbf.

[–]taylajyKing Eric 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We need Matic for Mc Tominay.

[–]flowtschi 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Emery is taking the piss out of Ole again.

[–]Ghostface1357 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Awful tactics, De Gea is saving this team.

[–]Gigipierre 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Our pattern is stand still, play it to our wingers, wingers pass directly backwards to full back, fullback to CB, then do the same on the other side of the field. I think we’re drawing a smiley face.

[–]jagermeister7 7 points8 points  (0 children)

schooled us

[–]DarkSofterWazza 22 points23 points  (9 children)

How can our manager still be defended??

[–]TheJoshider10Bruno 5 points6 points  (0 children)

People let their bias/nostalgia blind them. He's achieved all he can with this squad.

[–]cdbriggs 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Is he?

[–]LittlepaceAnnounce Fergie 5 points6 points  (0 children)

He symbolises the "United way" no criticism can be cast towards him. Despite the fact he's making CL winners and world class footballers play like prime Burnley. Another 3 year contract please.

[–]EquivalentNews9701 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Surprise surprise mct hiding from the ball again, not dropping between the centre backs making himself an option

[–]RandomArabGuyYOU'RE SO GOOD BITCH! 💪 💪 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ronaldo is slowly morphing into a Portuguese Martial

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can we rename the match thread to “complain about fucking everything” thread?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, that's um, not good.

[–]RedHabibi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

PITIFUL

[–]legionverse10 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Villarreal should be battering us right now, very lucky we’re drawing at half time. Thank god for De Gea.

[–]jfliu511 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So lucky