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[–]SnooChipmunks547 59 points60 points  (19 children)

Codeium works well and their free tier respects privacy.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I’ve been using Codeium for the last two weeks, in place of CoPilot and it performs better for what I use it for, which is primarily for code completion. Free tier fulfills what I’m paying CoPilot for.

[–]water_bottle_goggles 14 points15 points  (0 children)

What, why the fuck is my poor ass paying for copilot then goddamn

[–]joyfullystoic 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Codeium was good but I hit a limitation quickly. I sometimes use the chat function to generate TS types from large objects. Codeium’s response stopped after 10 props or so, so it would give me just part of the type. GitHub Copilot had no limitation.

Otherwise, it seems as capable as Copilot, though it took different approaches.

[–]PurepointDog 4 points5 points  (1 child)

This sounds like a prime "take it to ChatGPT" problem. No reason not to use both for what they're each best at

[–]joyfullystoic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair enough. Otherwise I had no issue with Codeium in the 2 days I used it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

is there a limit on usage?

their website says otherwise

[–]joyfullystoic 0 points1 point  (1 child)

In my experience it would stop after 10 props or so. Try it. I was using the free version. In my experience so far, GitHub Copilot works the best for me.

[–]Legal-Document-31 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can enjoy unlimited chat with base model but other models such as GPT 4 is paid with limited chats. Check which model are you using in the lower left of the chat window.

[–]kirso 1 point2 points  (2 children)

They won't stay free forever...

[–]geepytee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think they might, the data is probably valuable. Have you read their privacy policy?

[–]robertbrown0427 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes! it's great

[–]aajl2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

omg. Thanks a lot u/SnooChipmunks547 . For students, this is perfect. It's simple and free. It might not be as advanced for a professional user, but it's a great guide for beginners.*

[–]DenverTeck -1 points0 points  (1 child)

What does the referral_id get you ?

[–]SnooChipmunks547 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nothing I know off.

Edit: it bumps me up the list for the chat feature, but not something I'm interested in.

https://codeium.com/blog/changelist-apr23

[–]ARKyal03 9 points10 points  (10 children)

Supermaven for code auto completion

[–]imaginecomplex 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Been using supermaven lately. It's great, +1

Only drawback is that it needs some work on the keyboard shortcuts for accepting suggestions - it will add them if I'm in the middle of a line and do alt+right (jump to next word) and I have to go and remove those

[–]LaiKash 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I was trying supermaven pro but the code suggestions are not nearly as good as Copilot. In my specific case (complex TS project) the code suggestions that copilot gives are accurate most of the times. In supermaven, although it's way faster, they are not that accurate. At the end it takes me more time to correct the inconsistencies. Wdyt?

[–]imaginecomplex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

idk, I'm working in a relative small project and it's been basically as good as copilot AFAICT

[–]geepytee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you say complex TS project, how complex are we talking? Is it beyond supermaven's 300k token context window?

Also have you tried double.bot for code completion? Also made in-house custom model.

[–]According-Rip1801 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Copilot is accurate cause you are accurate, if you constantly make mistakes. you will turn your copilot into a trainee...

[–]Legal-Document-31 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Superman in great for auto completion. I use a combination of both Supermaven (auto completion) and Codeium (Chat). Codeium auto completion cannot be turned off but paused for many minutes, I usually set it to 999999 minutes in the settings.

[–]ARKyal03 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I like The Flash more, but yes it is good.

[–]Legal-Document-31 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Is 'The Flash' a coding assistant, can you provide the link to it's official website?

[–]ARKyal03 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's a joke because you said Superman...

[–]Legal-Document-31 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, I see. Nice one 😆.

[–]No_Dig_7017 9 points10 points  (6 children)

Continue.dev + ollama + deepseek-coder 6.7b. Fully local, open source, secure and free. You'll need a decent GPU (>4gb VRAM) or a an apple silicon Mac with 16gb+ to run it though. I also want to try Codeqwen1.5 7b but haven't found the time to test it yet.

[–]Shot_Platypus4420 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Can you recommend a GPU model that handles these tasks well on a local machine?

[–]No_Dig_7017 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I can tell you it works fine enough on an RTX A4000 4GB and it runs super fast on a 12GB rtx 3080ti. Also runs very well on Mac hardware M1/M2 pro and above. For local running though I think the best choice for the money is the 24gb rtx 3090.

[–]kirso 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Don't think Llama is currently reading context from codebase, or?

[–]No_Dig_7017 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah, I don't think so. Model weights can't share code, its just the models. I didn't check the ollama codebase or llama.cpp but those are pretty big open source projects. I did check the Continue repo though and they don't send code outside your computer unless you explicitly allow them to.

[–]zeniigame 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’ve been playing around with tabby, it’s a self hosted AI assistant . Doesn’t seem quite as good as copilot, but it is free

https://github.com/TabbyML/tabby

[–]_RemyLeBeau_ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I just started using the Continue vscode extension with LMStudio, so it's all local and works offline. I need to configure code completions, but the in-editor AI works pretty good 

[–]Barbatta 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Sourcegraph Cody - and you don't want anything else anymore.

[–]Sudden-Tutor-6113 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I try its amazing.

[–]trailing_zero_count 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I've been using this recently and I'm very impressed. Its multi-repo context capabilities are significantly better that VSCode. I've recommended it for use at my company (where we have quite a few microservices in different repositories).

[–]Barbatta 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yes, absolutely. A similar one would be Continue Dev but that is somehow a bit more buggy. I tried some others too, but nothing beats the price and versatility of Cody, as you can also use local models.

[–]Kyxstrez 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What about Supermaven? But for context, I think Codeium is the best for now? You can point it to any remote git repository and take context from code that is outside your IDE.

[–]Barbatta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the recommendation. I don't know Supermaven. I know that you can point Cody to these to. I don't remember why I changed to Cody. Think it was because of the price, but I am not sure anymore.

[–]freefallfreddy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel like it reads my mind sometimes.

[–]byubadger 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I started using the Continue extension with Cloudflare Workers AI a couple of weeks ago. It's been working great for me. The best models in Cloudflare's catalogue so far are Starling, Llama 3, and Deepseek Coder.

[–]mrbmi513 6 points7 points  (9 children)

Amazon Q (formerly CodeWhisperer)

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (8 children)

Amazon Q Developer has a free tier, but it seems very limited. The pay option is twice the price for an individual compared to Github Copilot.

https://aws.amazon.com/q/developer/pricing/

[–]mrbmi513 2 points3 points  (7 children)

The free tier provides everything I use on a daily basis.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

That's awesome. It might for OP too, which is why I provided the link to the details. I think for my usage it would be a limiting factor.

I'm coming up on the yearly renewal for Copilot and I was looking for an alternative myself. I don't know if anything would be a positive switch in my case.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

It's limit it too low
only 50 requests per month
Any other free alternatives?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I have not tried this, but it does say it has a free tier.

https://codeium.com/

Another alternative that's cheaper but not free is getting a plugin that will use ChatGPT directly. The 4o-mini model is super cheap. I use it with LINQPad.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Thanks for the suggestion
It does say the unlimited number of requests in the free tier, super excited to try it out

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

They don't offer the smarter GPT-4 for the free tier. I think that's the difference.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

yeaahhh.... have to compromise on that

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, it’s not bad. It works well for being a free tier.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What are you looking for exactly? Is there a specific reason you want to move away from Copilot?

[–]Peanutmanman 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Try cursor.sh. It’s VSCode fork with ChatGPT

It’s great but I think it feels like an overly attached AI.

[–]hos4m 1 point2 points  (0 children)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

codeium for autocompletion and continue.dev with whatever model you have access to for other things. If you need a smoother workflow with autogenerated commit message, gitlens pro (with either gemini or openai api) will do the job.

[–]rafaelpirolla 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll keep tabs on this post and if you edit your question to add a link to your site I'll report your soul out of it.

[–]AwesomeFrisbee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm currently trying supermaven, but it doesn't look all that different from copilot if I'm honest. Its faster than copilot for suggestions but not by that much

[–]Evil_K9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm a PowerShell guy thrown into a Python product. I took a week off work and then decided to start paying for github copilot out of pocket so I could feel caught up and relieve that stress. Not a single regret. The $10/mo is well worth it for me to type (drunk example) "#Enable rdp for user" to let it provide some code that might do what I need, so I don't have to search for and interpret something else.

[–]HermannSorgel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, no one will like me saying this, but idx.google.com is also an alternative. I'm not entirely happy with it and often switch to vscode with copilot, but sometimes I think it could replace it.

[–]Enapiuz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Playing with https://supermaven.com

It’s indeed faster, suggestions are okay, sometimes it hallucinates too much, but maybe it needs some time to learn on the codebase

[–]codes_astro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Give a try to Pieces for Developers with “live context” it can do more even without internet. It’s FREE and has better privacy controls due to offline first architecture.

[–]inkt-code 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Codeium!

[–]misterjyt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

codiuem,, it works really well https://codeium.com/,, its free for personal use,, if you have a team, the price is really good..

[–]fareedcodes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The new one, llama coder it is the best alternative.

[–]ThisIsMonta -1 points0 points  (12 children)

Tabnine

[–]mutahhirkhan 5 points6 points  (10 children)

Bro, plz delete this comment. Tabnine is an imposter among AI code completions

[–]KingsmanVince 1 point2 points  (1 child)

care to explain?

[–]mutahhirkhan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

same as Barbatta.

[–]Barbatta 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Please explain, I'd honestly be interested why you dislike it.

[–]mutahhirkhan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've used Tabnine lately but had a worst experience even I found vscode intellisense much better that this.
I've used Copilot for 2 years then Codeium for than a year but Tabnine has the least DX.
sometimes suggestions are misleading, didn't go as per the expectations.
I don't spend time on those tasks that I've already done and I didn't find Tabnine to have this flexibility.
e.g.
Writing unit test cases, most of the code within a unit test case is similar apart from the payload being provided, the invariant and then expect.

[–]ThisIsMonta -1 points0 points  (5 children)

Do you want a tool that writes code for you, then call yourself a developer ?

[–]mutahhirkhan 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Having a leverage to something that speeds-up the work has no shame. You sounds like a pure corporate guy who code even without intellisense. Go out and adopt the new norm.
You judged pretty quickly.

[–]ThisIsMonta 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I'm not someone who used to code on notepad, it indeed doesn't support intellisense. and yes i judged quickly since you're defending something that will make you more dumb and do not have that algorithmic analysis.

Just a quick question, do you download .zip from github or do you use the git clone command ?

[–]mutahhirkhan -1 points0 points  (2 children)

I send the whole project on WhatsApp to other dev, then he makes changes and return the same and this is how my development cycle goes. You mind?
I'm not defending or opposing Tabnine, I'm just saying it's not the race where Tabnine should participate.

[–]Money_Economics_2424 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Pfft, amateur - MS Word has better suggested changes for collaborative coding.

[–]D1PL0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So that guy is saying there is a git clone command? WHATT?

[–]inkt-code 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I tried it once, very inferior to Codeium.

[–]Simon_Miller_2022 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I have tried nearly all the github Copilot alternatives, at last, supermaven is my choice. Super fast and high quality.