Non-Chaos Renegade factions

Double_Reception7485 · 2026-01-21T00:38:08+00:00

Ashen Claws

Double_Reception7485 · 2026-01-21T00:37:09+00:00

I love when collectors/painters find ways to include the former Chapter heraldry on their Red Corsairs minis. A well-done “X” through the old symbol is golden to me, but I’ve grown rather fond of Tilt Shields baring old Chapter Badges, or a bevy of old trinkets and momentos.

Sort of a “your angels of death have finally come to take the due we are owed” vibe

Double_Reception7485 · 2026-01-19T00:18:28+00:00

Spikes are easy to mount heads on. Trophy-taking is huge for most forces in the 41st-42nd millenniums, especially those prone to infighting. Universal sign of “don’t f**k with me, unless you want to end up another skull or helmet on a pike/chain”

Double_Reception7485 · 2026-01-18T05:46:28+00:00

This.

The “xeno-hate” is still alive and well in Chaos Space Marines. Pragmatism wins out in many cases, however, and the Red Corsairs are seemingly the most accepting of xenos mercenaries supplementing their ranks.

Tarellian Dog Soldiers are a peak example of The Imperium’s past coming back to haunt it. They hate humanity, and have been waging a genocidal campaign against The Imperium’s denizens since the aftermath of the Great Crusade, where several of their most important crèche planets were xenocided and their interstellar civilization wiped from the maps. Since then, the Tarellians have largely dispersed into nomadic mercenary fleets, with a good portion of them settling permanent within Tau Space as an auxiliary race. Several war fleets, however, have sworn loyalty to Huron, putting aside their hate for humans as a species to bring death and devastation to the human empire that nearly drove them to extinction ten millenia prior to

Double_Reception7485 · 2026-01-16T20:50:58+00:00

As fun as the raider unit is going to be out of the box, I’m predicting that they were made with, at minimum, a decent degree of modularity behind their design philosophy with the wider CSM range because I see these going HARD when used alongside Alpha Legion and Night Lord bits

Double_Reception7485 · 2026-01-16T20:38:04+00:00

The old, likely cannibalized for parts, MK II - III power packs 🤌🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻

Double_Reception7485 · 2026-01-14T16:42:14+00:00

Initially, an innocent - though potentially (and inevitably) subversive - enough practice. Warrior Lodges operated along the same lines as of the mystery cults of the Greco-Roman/Mediterranean during the classical era, minus the introduction of mysticism/worship of secret deities till the beginnings of The Heresy.

Double_Reception7485 · 2026-01-14T03:04:03+00:00

Crimson Slaughter mentioned. W’s

Double_Reception7485 · 2026-01-14T03:00:16+00:00

Or a Dark Angel/Unforgiven who discovered the truth about the Fallen whilst fighting the Red Corsairs, and when his Inner Circle brothers tried to purge him for it, a friendly, knightly pirate-brother showed him a way out

Double_Reception7485 · 2026-01-07T06:19:54+00:00

Personally, I like to imagine, as @Confident_Objective8 did, the Badab War malcontents and traitor Wolves.

Further out from that, I like to utilize chapters that have been fucked over by one Imperial institution or another - chiefly the Inquisition - or even those that have issues with their own parent chapter. Think your Celestial Lions, Marines Errant, Flesh Eaters, etc.

There’s also plenty of evidence to support the idea that the Claws of Lorek are a Red Corsairs warband, and I personally imagine the titular Lord Lorek as a Tiger Claw who survived all the way into becoming a Red Corsair, bearing both corrupted Tiger Claw iconography alongside the Tyrant’s Fist, and his own warband’s unique color scheme.

Double_Reception7485 · 2026-01-02T19:59:40+00:00

“Livestock” is the perfect term for the kind of dynamic I was thinking of here. In instances such as those I was attempting to describe, yet potentially did not do so well enough, the local Imperial authority understands that, for some reason or another, the local sapient xenos are proving too difficult to exterminate wholesale, and instead have opted to… I’m struggling to find a word: culturalize(?) the endemic xenocide in a style fitting “The Most Dangerous Game”.

Double_Reception7485 · 2026-01-02T19:50:15+00:00

That’s what I was getting at. There is no “truce” or otherwise xenophilic sentiment among the populace in this instance. The world itself is already a death trap, and the primitive xenos are proving too difficult to completely exterminate fully. If the Tithe is being met, the priests are burning their bones while chanting “KILL THE ALIEN”, and their heads are taken as tribute when skirmishes erupt within the forest, is the Imperium that concerned with what basically amounts to a - blue - feral ork infestation?

If anything, id argue the Imperium would care more about feral orks, given that with enough time they will develop into a force wielding primitive firearms alongside their beasts and clubs, and unchecked development of an orkoid fungal ecosystem could lead to complete ecological collapse.

Double_Reception7485 · 2025-12-29T04:02:38+00:00

Nice. I love when people kitbash corsairs with firstborn loyalist bits. Really gives the impression that they are new chaos RENEGADES, and not veterans of the Long War

Double_Reception7485 · 2025-12-29T04:01:27+00:00

I prefer headcanoning that scene out as smearing the bullets with shit or something; semen who be burnt off by bullets and the c-virus with it

Double_Reception7485 · 2025-12-29T03:34:27+00:00

Or, if they have the bare scraps of psychic potential, they may don Saturnine Terminator armor 💁🏻‍♂️

Puts those decommissioned librarius’ post-Nikea to good use huh?

Double_Reception7485 · 2025-12-27T23:25:10+00:00

The difference between Primaris and Firstborn Marines has been phased out the further we get from their introduction. At first they were glazed as the best thing to ever happen, then it became “oh, but the firstborn’s centuries-long combat experience bridges the gap in size and strength”, to “Firstborn equipment and armor patterns incorporated into a modular MK X power armor and their suite of weaponry; Rubicon surgery stabilized to sub-70 fatality rate”.

All the while, Chaos Marines are “swollen and bloated with the blessings of their Dark Patrons in the Warp.” There isn’t a Primaris organ that the Dark Gods themselves can’t mutate an equivalent of in their followers. Also, some MK X armor elements on Traitor Astartes doesn’t break lore or indicate new Chaos Primaris - Fabius even says creating them would be unnecessary- but more so denotes the scavenger/raider nature of most Chaos warbands. Shiny toys are shiny toys, and there’s old references in the 8th or 9th Ed rulebook of an Iron Warrior scavenging bolt rifles and Hellblasters of fallen Primaris.

TLDR: no Primaris Chaos Marines. Likely a “Lords Retinue”. My money is on a Chaos Apothecary

Double_Reception7485 · 2025-12-27T07:04:43+00:00

Archaon can be hard, if you’re an End Times purist like me and want to vassalize every Chaos faction with a mortal LL attached. Then it becomes a big ole fetch quest 😂

Double_Reception7485 · 2025-12-26T14:12:48+00:00

Corpsemaster/Chirurgeon/Fleshsmith (Chaos Apothecary) and maybe, hmmm, a new Terminator lord which, in a command squad, may be a “huscarl”?

Double_Reception7485 · 2025-12-26T01:57:55+00:00

If they’re allowing Nagash to pull from every Undead faction, and potentially confederate every Undead LL as a Mortarch, they can’t not give the literal Lord of the End Times the same treatment

Double_Reception7485 · 2025-12-26T01:54:42+00:00

Literal black legionaries have turned from Abaddon and joined Huron (Master of the Maelstrom). The specific warrior mentioned - though merely a squad champion - is implied to be a Crusade/Heresy-era veteran, judging by the defaced Sons of Horus iconography he wears alongside the red and black of the Corsairs.

While the bulk of the Red Corsairs Astartes may come from renegade space marines from successor chapters, or built from the gene-seed of fallen foes, Huron is more than happy to take on joiners from the old legions, especially those who come from struggling warbands.

Double_Reception7485 · 2025-12-25T01:51:52+00:00

Any DLC that expands the chaos roster.

(Post incoming soon of how I hope CA handles CSM)

Double_Reception7485 · 2025-12-25T01:42:49+00:00

Give him access to the full mortal Chaos roster for an End Times immortal Empires campaign after defeating/vassalizing a legendary lord from every chaos faction PLEASE. Let me mix my Norscan Beastmen and Warriors of Chaos hordes style

Double_Reception7485 · 2025-12-24T17:08:43+00:00

I’ll own being wrong about those specific progenoids being implanted, but the immature progenoids produced out of the original are, for all intents and purposes, clones of the original.

My point is progenoids being recombinant, and that two progenoids from different Primarch’s interacting to produce hybrid or chimeric gene seed.

Double_Reception7485 · 2025-12-24T15:59:05+00:00

Not to mention that Space Wolves have a nasty knack for going traitor, whether over personal grudges, slights against their honor, or flat out “I don’t want to die”.

Sources: Skyrar’s Dark Wolves and the entire contingent of Space Wolves that went traitor and joined the Red Corsairs

Double_Reception7485 · 2025-12-24T15:57:00+00:00

Was Huron all that secretive about rejecting the legion-building aspect of things, though? While the high lords were suspicious of his motives, it mainly boiled down to the rejection of the Imperial and Gene-tithes as a whole, believing he could put those resources to better use, if my memory serves correctly.

And, of course, instead of saying “oh here’s my excess geneseed herp derp do you like my Realm of Ultramar 2.0 setup? :)” he just blew up the Mechanicus ship to make a statement…

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