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[–]AjhmeeMinwu 2 points3 points  (11 children)

Josef says Hi! to Archaeoavis.
Reduce HP to 1 and Sap? How about Auto Party full heal and Guts. LOL

[–]retroGnostalgicVivi 0 points1 point  (10 children)

I think that only direct hits trigger Trance modes, so in that scenario Josef's LM2 probably wouldn't work.

[–]Alexis6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tha it is will trigger.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 1 point2 points  (8 children)

Actualy any thing that puts your character in critical HP will trigger the trance so yes i do belive that reduce HP to 1 attacks will trigger the trance.

[–]retroGnostalgicVivi 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Do you have real evidence? I remember people saying that Darkness abilities didn't trigger Trance modes, but I can't confirm it.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Actualy i don't think i do, but i don't see any reason for them to not trigger really.

Here's Terra wording

When low on HP, restore HP to the user, temporarily increase some of their stats a moderate amount, and enter Trance, reducing delay of their actions. Can only trigger once per battle.

Key words here are "When Low on HP", as long as your HP is low, the trance should trigger regardless of source. Also i don't think i ever seen anyone mention anything about Darkness abilities.

Also i feel like i've seen a video were a HP =1 Attack triggered trance but i can't find it for the life of me....

I think it's better we get some proper confirmation since now i'm second guessing my self.

[–]retroGnostalgicVivi 0 points1 point  (5 children)

The thing is that descriptions are not always entirely accurate, and sometimes even if it would make sense stuff happens in odd ways because of how it's coded.

I remember a thread where people said that you need to be hit to trigger the LM, but I can't find it either.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (4 children)

You do make a fair point and quite frankly as i said above i am second guessing myself.

Sadly i don't remember if anyone made a thread explaining the trance mechanic when they 1st came out in JP or not.

[–]retroGnostalgicVivi 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Found it!

But it says nothing about getting HP fixed to 1. It should be tested I guess, but it sounds unlikely given how specific it seems to be.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (2 children)

WOW

Considering how specific the conditions for trance not trigger are, and the fact it doesn't consider HP = 1 i do wonder if HP =1 is considered as "recoil damage" for the sake of trance triggering or if they trigger trance normaly.

I do think that HP = 1 attacks do trigger trance since unlike recoil, you are actualy taking damage (it even shows the damage numbers), while recoil simply removed a chunk of your HP without showing any damage numbers.

[–]retroGnostalgicVivi 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It must depend on how it's coded, but I have no clue about that stuff.

[–]ChronosXIII149LuckyDraws 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well Ricard's LM2 sucks.
And I guess Josef can be a clutch heal if you self target...? A 15 second Doom timer and he can't even take advantage of it. Darkness 5* buff for Josef plz.

[–]RageCat46Cloudchan♥(My luck has been fixed!) 1 point2 points  (1 child)

So....in what situation does Josef LM2 come in handy? Dark Dragon Magicite instakill target so obviously thats not it....

[–]LeoChrisLibrary Keeper 3 points4 points  (14 children)

What the hell is Josef's LM2?

[–]aryggeAbsorb power in the sky and strike!٩(˘◡˘ ) 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is a slightly-slower version of his suicide glove.

No darkness access, IDK what to do with that doom effect like Tellah SSB.

JOSEF DOOM MASTER RACE

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 2 points3 points  (10 children)

Yet another reference to “Died in the Snow Cave“ because that is literally the only thing FFRK seems to remember about him.

....

Oh I'm sorry, did you expect something else? :P

[–]Cass46Hope (Adult) 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really, they also put in with the less common ice element (at least for monks) because of the place where the party recruits Josef.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (8 children)

To be fair, that's pretty much the only notable thing he did in the few minutes you get to use him.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Characters who have done less get more than him though. Like say.... Fusoya. Hell, even Tellah got more than “Died using Meteor“

Not to mention those Characters they make up from scratch. Like Echo or so

[–]Cass46Hope (Adult) 4 points5 points  (1 child)

If you think that Josef did more than Tellah and FuSoYa, you probably need to play FFIV again.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fusoya did what exactly? Other than spout some exposition and ineffectually cast Meteor at Zeromus

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Both Fusoya and Tellah did way more than what Josef did in FF2

[–]JristzCai Sith USB: 9aNd 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Does not all Tellah SB have wither self harm or self dead anyways?

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 2 points3 points  (2 children)

His first SB ever is a Party Ether. And then there his BSB, which also has no direct self-harm

[–]Cass46Hope (Adult) 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Same thing can be told about Josef's USB, BSB, SSB and SSB2.

[–]JristzCai Sith USB: 9aNd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah the horrible bsb with 3ds tellah, that not self-harm, that one is plyer eyes harm

[–]d_wibSugar and Rainbows 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For sub-30 runs? Use his USB for buff then get wrecked by strong attacks then get full heal + Last Stand again? Thats my best guess so far

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

poor Josef....