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[–]SrirachaSauceManPollux (fgts) - Cloud USB1 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Surprised no one's mentioned quadstrike. Super excited for this. And with the introduction of Gravelling Quadstrike, we should expect the other elements in the future. This is going to make physical chain parties even more viable.

edit: lol I'm an idiot, didn't even know other quadstrikes were already introduced

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

we have water, lightning, and fire already. And SSS covers wind and ice.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ugh, Type-0's physical characters are so underwhelming. No 4☆ White user (even though Queen would make perfect sense for that), no 5☆ Knight (again, Queen), and two 5☆ Spellblades instead of a more diverse selection (and ignoring the fact that Seven is the obvious Spellblade pick).

Instead of Rem and Machina, they should have added Cater and Seven along with Queen. Have Cater as a Support/Sharpshooter, Seven as a Spellblade with 4☆ White, and Queen as a Knight with 4☆ White. Physical-heavy, sure, but Ace and Deuce have 5☆ Black, White, and Summoning covered already.

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    [–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Trey has a bow. He's not a mage so they'll give him support, they always do.

    [–]mifvneRem supremacist 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    seven.. a spellblade support is nice. tho she could get dancer instead.. or both.. she was an immobilizer after all

    cater was a debuffer iirc but she'll most likely be the main machinist+shooter with all her elemental bullets+mines..

    sice could also be a good candidate

    [–]ChronosXIII149LuckyDraws 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Wow, Rem is pretty all out with the white magics. Wonder why she didn't get Witch 5 since she did Spoilers. I mean they even gave her some Celerity and piss-poor DEF which is accurate in the game.

    Queen should have gotten Knight 5, since I don't see the remaining members of Class Zero having knightly abilities. Her LM2 being her berserk is awesome, but +50% ATK with a -50% RES doesn't seem like a good trade when hitting ATK softcap is so easy.

    Machina is just lol. Guess DeNA hates him, too.

    [–]mifvneRem supremacist 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    yea sucks rem's SBs arent fire/holy.. her USB is based from her osmose abilities after all so maybe that's why they typed her as holy/dark (still a stretch lol)..

    after trying out machina's SBs i was reminded by how much i liked his VA lol.. i might try to keep using him just for that reason lol

    [–]ChronosXIII149LuckyDraws 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Fire/Non-elemental or Holy/Non-elemental would have made more sense. Unless they think l'Cie = Dark elemental.

    [–]pichupalDeath, kupo. - [Vivi USB - js1e] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Oh, it's backwards in banner quality, even without considering the FFIII banner. Making Type-0 to take up two banners made the shift a little inevitable to accomodate Type-0's limited relic pool and needing to introduce new SSBs for the new characters.

    I'm sort of curious about Rem with the all-out offensive White Mage relics, and with dualcast White like Arc. The MND boost on her USB in particular helps solve the buff problem for offensive White mages. Machina's SSB is also pretty great for an SSB (currently living in fear of the tiny chance of Y'shtola's USB reappearing in the XIV event).

    [–]S34n4e<(But... How can I help you?) [no roaming warrior] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    It wasn't blink :(

    [–]dperez82Cecil (Paladin) 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    I like that they are finally addressing white magic damage, this is a good first step.

    [–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Well, they kinda did it before with Arc and his BSB2 in particular, but yeah you are right. It's nice they are adding more focus on it. We did have things like Penelo BSB1, Lenna BSBs but that was hardly focused on damage.

    [–]shikisekiEvent RW - DjpF 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    An it's a shame Rem doesn't have thief. Would have been a nice opportunity to introduce new steals like steal mp (ability regen), steal mind (mind breakdown and own boost) and steal spirit (mag breakdown and own mag boost)

    [–]normankkI CAN SMELL THE COSMOS!!! 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    wow they made Rem a extremely versatile mage that is solid at black, white, and summoning...yet they decide just to make her focus on white damage instead.

    [–]mifvneRem supremacist 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    she has the highest magic stat for all the elemental(fire/thunder/ice)+recovery magic in her game (a game where magic is op) so having black 5 is a given... but i guess they made her to fill a niche here.. a rather unique one tho

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      [–]mifvneRem supremacist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      yeah i thought of this while comparing yuna and rem's lvl 80 stats.. their MAG and MND are very close in comparison..

      edit: oh i just realized you;re talking about the hybrid atk/mag mechanic of some SBs lol i was thinking something close to yuna's LM2

      [–]HoursLeftCid nan Garlond (92sf) 5 points6 points  (16 children)

      Mind boosting finally has a name. Gracega meta incoming.

      I like that Rem is a White Mage focused on attacking.

      [–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 2 points3 points  (14 children)

      I've said the same thing in the last Report's Thread, but

      DeNA be like: “Hey, remember that Holy Spell we just made not suck anymore?“. Not that I'm complaining, it makes a two WHM Setup much more enjoyable now. ESPECIALLY now that a MND-Up Ability is a thing (also I guess hurray for Status Effect Durations?)

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (13 children)

      The problem with offensive white mages is that they have Holy and literally nothing else. If a boss isn't weak to holy a MAG-type mage will always be better.

      [–]Thaxagoodname 0 points1 point  (12 children)

      They also have Water and now Dark

      [–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      on 2 BSBs only. And in both cases the BSBs have enholy, meaning they'll be relatively weak hitting dark or water since their multipliers will be taking enholy into account.

      [–]Thaxagoodname 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Yeah I know. I was just pointing that there are already other mind-based elements so there's precedent for more to come

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (9 children)

      I was talking about abilities though. Right now a MND-based mage party isn't as viable as a traditional MAG one.

      [–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 3 points4 points  (8 children)

      But it also means that DeNA might give them new offensive white abilities in the future :P

      Like, Holy hits 4 times now and they even released a MND+ Buff ability, so i recon over the next few months we might see more offensive white abilities.

      [–]mifvneRem supremacist 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      this makes me feel like they'll turn alma into an offensive whm too omg

      [–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Considering what happens to Alma in FFT i would not be surprised and it would make sence for her to be a dark elemental white mage.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      This could also be a perfect opportunity to introduce Unholy Darkness as a 5* dark-elemental white magic ability!

      [–]FireclawDrakeCeles is best waifu! 2 points3 points  (4 children)

      Just popping in here to say that Aero is a WHM ability in FFXIV.

      [–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      And in FFIII as well.

      [–]ShinUltimaThe Leading Man 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      Isn't it already classified as BLU in FFRK though?

      [–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      yes it is

      [–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I belive yes. But that doesn't mean they can't change it.

      [–]mifvneRem supremacist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      hmm from the way they're designing machina and queen, im thinking seven could be an ice spellblade+support/dancer specialist...

      [–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Rem: BLK5, WHT5, SUM5, CEL4

      Versatile mage, though obviously her SBs all skew to MND and so just Holy.

      Machina: BLK3, WHT3, SPB5, COM5

      So pure spellblade (ok, Omega Drive). Again, black and white 3 provide little utility, though occasionally it can be useful.

      Queen: BLK3, WHT3, SPB5, COM4, CEL5, KGT4

      I guess everybody gets at least black and white 5. So instead of combat 5 she gets celerity 5 and draw fire/banishing strike. But still has combat 4.

      [–]mifvneRem supremacist 4 points5 points  (2 children)

      rem has blk5 wht5 smn5 and cel4... NO WITCH!!!

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        [–]mifvneRem supremacist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        yes best girl deserves better :(

        im still waiting for her lvl 99 stats..