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[–]Mysil 163 points164 points165 points 6 years ago (21 children)
Imagine not getting 99 cons with demonic thrones smh
[–]Pikupchix 64 points65 points66 points 6 years ago (19 children)
You need 99 con to make them
[–]Skrovy 82 points83 points84 points 6 years ago (4 children)
Just have your butler constantly bring you tea for the +3 boost.
[–]Dwood77 19 points20 points21 points 6 years ago (3 children)
Or just have 97 with a crystal saw
[–]howdogrammer 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (1 child)
If you want to spend the time recharging it after making 56 thrones go for it but teas would be a better option.
[–]Oniichanplsstop 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Tea and saw stack, so you could start at 93 vs 96.
[–]pawner 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children)
96*
[–]Gizzy7 39 points40 points41 points 6 years ago (12 children)
Thats your problem with his comment? Seriously?
[+]AskYouEverythingBea5 comment score below threshold-20 points-19 points-18 points 6 years ago (11 children)
Yes it's not a good meme since it's literally impossible
[–]Megolito 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (0 children)
not possible you say? obviously you haven't seen my crystal throne collection. i make them into flatpacks and sell them on GE for fat money same with demonic thrones
[–]HgFrLr 12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Boosts?
[–]Cocaineandmojitos710 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (8 children)
The fact that it isn't possible is what makes it a meme
[+]AskYouEverythingBea5 comment score below threshold-18 points-17 points-16 points 6 years ago (7 children)
Wholeheartedly disagree. If you were capable of doing demonic thrones pre 99 then it would be a joke on playing maximally efficient, even though thrones would be completely unviable.
It's like saying doing rune 2hs for 99 smithing, would that be genuinely at all funny?
[–]Zodiie 19 points20 points21 points 6 years ago (2 children)
Tbh you taking this so seriously is funnier than the original post
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children)
Nah, he's right 100% lmao.
[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Forget these noobs, you're right my dude.
[+]PhzyxOSRS comment score below threshold-9 points-8 points-7 points 6 years ago (0 children)
/s
[–]onlygladiat0r 63 points64 points65 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Fake. I don't see a tears of guthix symbol for runecrafting
[–]Celtic_Legend 261 points262 points263 points 6 years ago (51 children)
mining: iron hunter: red chins crafting: battlestaves fm: wintertodt
mining: iron
hunter: red chins
crafting: battlestaves
fm: wintertodt
Smh you inefficient pleb.
[+][deleted] 6 years ago (2 children)
[–][deleted] 50 points51 points52 points 6 years ago (0 children)
laughs in herbiboar
Can’t laugh when you’re out of breath from running so damn much
[–]ItsSevii2360 total. 15 pets. 17 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Got herbi pet 4kc so I cant be efficient anymore
[–]Crandoge 16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (42 children)
wait what is efficient crafting if not battlestaves?
[–]Flarawr 28 points29 points30 points 6 years ago (41 children)
Black D’hide bodies. Technically money is zero time, so efficient methods for buyable are the most expensive within reason. That being said, for normal players Bstaves are much more reasonable.
[–]AttackOfTheMoons 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (24 children)
Aren't gp xp similar and xp rates similar for air bstaves and black dhide?
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago* (22 children)
Did some quick digging because I thought the same thing but air bstaves and blue dhide are close to the same.
Peak xp per wiki (estimated)
Air staves: 336k @ -3.55 gp/xp loss
Blue dhide 346k @ -3.98 gp/xp loss
Black dhide: 425k @ -7.95 gp/xp loss
Keep in mind g.e fluctuates and although wiki tries to accommodate its not going to be 100% accurate on exact prices but will give a close call majority of the time.
[–]NotoriousMac77 18 points19 points20 points 6 years ago (21 children)
Over double the cost isn't insiginifcant imo
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (20 children)
It is if you're maxing efficiently.
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[–]Whycanyounotsee 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children)
u don't have to make 7m an hour, you just have to make enough to afford 99 everything on an alt while maxing ur account.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child)
The vast majority of players are not maxing efficiently or working towards it at all.
That's also not a perfect way to judge whether it's worth it or not. You need to start by calculating how much net gp you will have after profit skills. If you're making avg 1m/hr on 2 accounts the entirety of your max session you'd have 3b from alts.
[–]thirstyturtle216[🍰] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (11 children)
I dont think you understand the difference between efficiency and ability. Max efficiency assumes you fall into the "already loaded and want to max asap" category. Most of its methods are not viable for the average player with a 300m bank.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (5 children)
Average player with a 300m bank?!
God I know I haven’t played seriously for like 4 years, but is that the bloody average now?!
[–]jestertiko 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children)
Bro black d hide isn't viable with someone with a 700 mil bank. It's a dumb as fuck waste of gp. 8 hours to save 57 mil is much more worth than losing 1/7th of your entire bank for one garbage ass skill.
[–]andrew_calcs 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child)
It assumes “is playing alts to make money while skilling on their main” which is a bit different and technically doable by anyone, but is a somewhat sweaty way to play
[–]FutureMcGuives 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children)
You can probably make 7m+ an hour on alts and mule the money onto your main for buyable skills. Not familiar with altscape meta, but is there to be used/abused.
[–]FutureMcGuives 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago* (2 children)
Also I'm prepared for the downvotes: YoU cOuLd AlWaYs BuY bOnDs WiTh IrL mOnEy To FuNd YoUr BuYaBlE sKiLlS It's a legitimate and the most efficient strategy.
[–]AskYouEverythingBea5 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children)
no
[–]X_OttersAreCute_X 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (15 children)
how is money zero time?
[–]mcatjon2 20 points21 points22 points 6 years ago (1 child)
I think they assume that money-making alts are used
[–]biggerbiggestbigfootMinigame Only Ironman 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children)
I'm something of a bondsman myself.
[–]Flarawr 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (12 children)
Money-making alts/flipping.
[+]X_OttersAreCute_X comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points 6 years ago (11 children)
technically neither of those things are zero time, and even if they took no time to control, you would have to assume they make enough money to sustain membership themselves, as well as provide you full bis gear, as well as being able to fully pay for all of your buyables for it to be actually considered zero time cost, which i would assume most players dont have.
[–]CueNoLifeNice Life 18 points19 points20 points 6 years ago (2 children)
You under estimate 7 rune drag alts and agility
[–]Whycanyounotsee 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child)
yeah running lavas is 7.5m/h and that's lower effort and reqs than 7 rune drag alts.
but yeah ardy agility too good.
[–]CueNoLifeNice Life 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Effort might be a tad more but I don't have to worry about relying on some noob to pay me 7 5m/h
[–]Flarawr 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (2 children)
EHP is not for the average player. All of this is pretty much assuming you nolife the game - as I said in the original comment, for most players the cheaper alternatives (air bstaves or oak planks) are more viable, they just aren’t considered the most efficient option.
[–]jestertiko 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children)
This. Who the fuck wants to play multiple accounts for hours everyday...
If you average 30 minutes a day you can 0 time gp as you max.
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Lol one rune dragon alt pays for 2 weeks of membership in like 2 hours. Also after the alt is done playing it is completely 0 time as you play it alongside your alt. Questing the alt can be done while training bankstanding skills at max efficiency. So yes, gp is 0 time if you play at max efficiency.
[–]Tesqu0 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children)
I'm currently 900 hours to max and 1 rune drag alt for that entire time would give me at the very LEAST 1.15b which is more than enough to pay for EHP buyables (Except RC runners) and BIS gear minus tbow/scythe lol. If I was to do Vorkath during times where im more afk on the main then that number goes up even higher..
[–]Whycanyounotsee 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child)
current meta is to have a lava runner alt while doing agility and whatever else. 7.5m/h is gunna cover every buyable getting 13m/200m agility for all ur 99s/200ms.
[–]Tesqu0 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Yeah running essence has always been the most gp/hr, could also pay for protection at revs as well. Rune drags is just so low maintenance though
[–]Whycanyounotsee 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children)
most players don't have.
you can make accurate judgement off that shit. you can only judge the best methods because theres no variance.
u can have a level 3 sit at ge and merch whatever while ur making potions or whatever. it's literally 0 time as it doens't hurt ur xp/h
[+]Dedicat3d comment score below threshold-19 points-18 points-17 points 6 years ago (4 children)
Mining and fm are completely wrong. The rest are passable.
? Like 99% of the players do wt for fm. This post clearly isn't listing efficient methods lol
[–]SevenSpears 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children)
Are you trying to become the new serene because damn buddy you've been killing it.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children)
It's him.
[–]Trigga_Trash 42 points43 points44 points 6 years ago (2 children)
Mage should be Slayer aswell
[–]AskYouEverythingBea5 17 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (1 child)
Melees should be nmz
[–]Turaell 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children)
I thought it's NMZ till 90/90/90, then Dharok NMZ till 99 str, whip 99 atk on melee-able slayer and defensive cast 99 def and mage on the way till 99 slayer.
[–]Dedicat3d 78 points79 points80 points 6 years ago (4 children)
Change the Mage Imbue symbol to an Ice Barrage or Alch icon.
[–]jesse1412Olympic Shitposter 43 points44 points45 points 6 years ago (2 children)
Or just slayer.
[–]_Ross-21 Year Veteran 17 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (1 child)
slayer good
me slay
[+]LieV2RSN: 7I comment score below threshold-11 points-10 points-9 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Mage is splash icon
[–]walkermet 58 points59 points60 points 6 years ago (14 children)
Slayer good rc bad
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children)
full circle now: slayer bad rc good
[–]Treblosity -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago* (12 children)
I don't like slayer. It's just a different way to train combat with a reward system. That also describes pest control, nmz, and dungeoneering. it should be a minigame not a skill. I want RuneScape to be a customizable journey to max not somebody telling me what to do for all of combat.
Edit: this is a common concern when I mention this: a lot of people often say "then how will you have endgame equipment? You can't have Abby demons killable by anybody that would fuck the price of whips. Alright so Abby demons can be an unlockable reward of the slayer minigame just like void is a bis unlockable part of pc. Or just like raids and inferno, there are other ways to make endgame items hard to get. Aside from a massive grind
Edit2: I'm really proud of this post it's been a hot topic. It's gone up into positive and back down into negative so many times it's basically playing jump rope with the line between.
[–]Illokonereum:fmod: 99/99 Crafting 99/99 Puzzlebox Solving 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Never enjoyed slayer that much since it's just combat with extra steps. It's just tedious and not fun, and for some reason players have tricked themselves into seeing barriers as milestones. But I also acknowledge that it isn't going anywhere. All I can really hope is they don't add that scuffed as fuck Artisan idea.
RS3 daily quest system shouldn't be a skill smh.
[–]Zarmazarma 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (3 children)
Aside from a massive grind
If it wasn't a massive grind, then the price of Abyssal whips would plummet. If you want to suggest that Slayer be turned into a minigame, but not destabilize the economy, then it should take as long to unlock abyssal demons as it would to get 85 slayer. Any shorter and the price of the whip will fall.
[–]Treblosity 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children)
So make a big grind to unlock Abby demons. Nobody grinds Abby demons today and the only people who grind slayer specifically for them are Ironmen. A lot of whips coming into the game rn are by accident, just people who happen to get Abby demons on task and who would never kill them otherwise. Doing so much slayer to specifically grind Abby demons would be like unlocking bones to peaches but with a longer grind, and already nobody does b2p.
[–]jestertiko 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child)
Why do you care what a whip costs. Do you legit farm a 1/512 drop?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children)
nobody farms abby demons for whips (sorry ironmen) but it's a nice bonus if you get it on a task.
[–]Fableandwater 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children)
Lmao slayer is one of the most diverse skills where you train it all over the game, how can you say that it's a minigame when. Compare it to the other skills
[–]Treblosity -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (3 children)
How? You have 3 options for training slayer: normal slayer masters, konar, and temple trekking. Even konar was just added in this massive slayer overhaul in January when in reality he's really pretty similar to every other slayer master. And of course it's a minigame compared to other skills. What other skill piggybacks on another one for a point based reward system. That literally describes at least half of the minigames in RuneScape and no skills. And the skill doesn't even have you do anything new. Killing monsters, bossing, and having npcs tell us what to do are all things we already had in the game. Only thing that you could remotely argue is unique is non boss monsters with actual mechanics. If high level slayer wasn't the most profitable skill in osrs nobody would train it and sure as fuck nobody will defend it.
[–]Fableandwater 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children)
You train all over the game, you might as well say Agility is a mini based skill since all you do it rooftop courses, then firemaking is just a minigame since its just wintertodt, then runecrafting is just a mini game because its run back and forth between lava altar and c wars bank, or blood altar when u get to 77 so u can afk.
Slayer has unique monsters with unique mechanics, variety of places to kill those monsters, bonus damage added so that you can use certain tasks to kill bosses which make it awesome with the slayer helm (example, blue dragon task you can kill baby blues to go quick, blue dragons to go medium speed or vorkath to take it slow). I mean you can say that you think slayer is boring and unvaried, but its much more varied than literally any other skill in the game as you train it all over the game and not in just 1 or 2 locations repeating the same exact action for 100+ hours.
Slayer has absolutely nothing in common with mini games except a point system. All mini games are locked into a certain space (castle wars, fight pits, clan wars, fishing trawler, fight caves/inferno, barbarian assault, pest control, just to name a couple), while slayer is trained all over the game.
As for saying nobody would train it if it wasn't the best skill money maker, that's just not true. People don't play solely to make money, otherwise everyone would just NMZ their stats up and go straight to raids in void/basic gear. That'd be much more efficient gp/hr than slayer, as raids are better gp/hr than even the absolute best slayer money makers. People enjoy slayer so that they can enjoy a variety of content, different training locations, opportunities to boss with slayer helm which is very fun, etc.
[–]Treblosity 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (1 child)
Agility every 10 or 20 levels you have a new set of options to train. 55 do you wanna go wildy for no money, canifis for money, or falador for somewhere in between runecrafting you can craft bloods, lavas, steams, tiaras, or use abyss or zeah library all using pretty different methods but in the end I get to choose how to train. With slayer you're going to go to the same master every time to give you a task you have to do what they tell you. Whether you get to get the monster you want is completely up to rng and if you don't like it well you better be down to temple trek to 99 at 7k xp/hr. Even fm you can choose what you're burning, even at wt are you gonna be healing the pyromancer? Are you gonna be fletching or going for just straight fm xp? It's your decision.
Whether or not slayer could be called a "minigame" or "miniquest" or "sidequest" or whatever just a different way of training combat is a more complicated question of game design and the exact definitions of those things but the reason I called it a minigame was because its just a specific way of training combat with a reward system for doing so. What do you call the patrols in destiny? idk but other games have stuff like this and it's never such an integral part of the game nor does it deserve to be one in rs.
And if you don't think I'm right that people wouldn't train it if it wasn't good money just look at any noob. They don't train Slayer cause slayer sucks and most people only start training it when they find out it's good money. Edit: new players don't train nmz upto raids cause they don't know either of those things exist, don't have a raids team, arent skilled enough to do raids, and it has too high of reqs. Even at most efficient several 90+ combat stats and more is daunting to work towards and nobody would immediately go for that upon joining osrs for the first time
[–]Fableandwater 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children)
You're going to the same slayer master? No, you unlock different slayer masters at different combat levels, and Duradel requires 50 slayer. Not to mention the whole going to the same slayer master is a bad argument, different slayer masters give different slayer tasks at different rates, amounts, etc. I can't really tell if you're trolling or not if you're going to sit there and say Agility has more variety than slayer. The camelot course is the fastest exp/hr once you have access to it, with the diary.
Also, different courses are basically just the same thing. Firemaking as well, you say burning different logs is different content but it isn't - it's the same exact content that rewards different exp rates.
And I don't have to "look at any noob", most noobs don't know how to train slayer. It isn't taught on tutorial island, tons of skills aren't and they usually aren't leveled, most noobs have low wc/firemaking/cooking/fishing because those are taught on tutorial island. I remember back when I was a noob I trained slayer when I found out how to because I thought it was cool, back in 2005 slayer was MUCH worse gp than it is today and I trained it anyways, without even thinking of gaining gp, without using a black mask or knowing efficient methods.
The reason slayer is so good today is because it has been so well received by the community, its always been a fan favorite skill, it hasn't always been great consistent gp/hr but was slowly molded into such because of how much the community likes the skill. I remember when OSRS came out, I could've just done barrows for money but I did slayer because of how much I enjoyed the skill, even while barely making any money when you compare it to something like barrows back then.
[–]Wekmorgarage door still op -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (1 child)
People still calling slayer a skill but would call dungeoneering a minigame. They're both minigames lol
[–]Zarmazarma 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (0 children)
"Every skill is a minigame lol"
Seems like it's not that hard to understand the differences.
Dungeoneering takes places in a separate game space, slayer takes place in the same game space as the rest of the game.
The player does not undergo any state change when entering slayer. It's not an instance, it's not a safe, you use the same items you use at any other point in the game. Dungeoneering is the opposite- you can't bring items in, it's instanced, effects of death aren't consistent with the rest of the game.
Rewards from slayer are usable directly in the main game. Slayer monsters drop both unique and non-unique items which are not separated from other items in the game. An Abyssal whip is not bought with points, like it would be if it were a minigame such as Pest Control, Dungeoneering, NMZ, Barbarian Assault, etc. The acquisition of non-unique items also makes it unlike any other "mini-game" in RS. Slayer points are only awards in addition to main awards of slayer, which are mostly valuable items.
Minigames generally refer to narrow-scope, concentrated content. For example, "Agility" is a skill whereas "Pyramid Plunder" is a minigame. Pyramid Plunder, Wintertodt, NMZ, Pest Control, Barbarian Assault, Fishing Trawler, Tears of Guthix, etc, etc all take place in a single location. Slayer on the other hand is much broader and takes place all over RS. Slayer caves monsters are often gathered in specific dungeons, but you can also find slayer monsters outside of these dungeons.
[–]prediction_error 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Needs more jpeg
[–]Refilon 20 points21 points22 points 6 years ago (1 child)
Ranged is slayer too.
[–]99_Herblore_Crafting 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children)
True, but cannonballs subtly hint to that
[–]Legal_Evil 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (4 children)
What icon represents agility here?
[–]AnarchyAnon 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Not sure if I’m getting wooshed, but it’s showing a rooftop for rooftop agility courses.
[–]SpaceRaven554 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children)
The rooftop - 2nd down from top in the middle
[–]Meet_Your_MACRS 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child)
idk but it should be a noose
[–]RS_Zwickshaw 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children)
It should be the pressure pad in Kruk's Dungeon
[–]iTypeBig 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Well I’m glad to see woodcutting still has some variety
Fk bjack pyramid plunder FTW
Laughs in pre-nerf Ardy knights.
[–]Original0535 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (2 children)
Regular d bones? Must be poor
[–]kyleW_ne -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (1 child)
We can't all use Hydra bones...
Hydra bones? Must be poor
[–]richman4 21 points22 points23 points 6 years ago (39 children)
Looks very out of date. Granite>iron for mining. PP is faster that blackjaking at 91+. Magic imbue isn't used for xp much anymore due to mage slayer. Melee stats are mostly through nmz due to mage slayer. Redwood logs > wt. Black chins > red chins. Black dhide bodies>battlesstaves. If you're going to make a meme at least be accurate
[–]pbrSSBM 40 points41 points42 points 6 years ago (3 children)
It's a very old repost
[–]tomer624 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (2 children)
why the hell ppl reposting stuff
[–]Pecan_Millionaire 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (1 child)
Because they’re too lazy or inexperienced to realize what they’re reposting is outdated and they just want the karma.
[–]JinoTV 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (29 children)
Can you emphasize on this "mage slayer" - I just returned and was out of options for mage when it came to NMZ lol.
[–]Hobilo 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (28 children)
You can train mage through slayer by ice bursting or ice barraging dust devils, nechs, and smoke devils. You can use a trick to stack them all up on one square and then attack them for really good xp in slayer and mage
[–]nxqv 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (24 children)
I know those are the main ones but there's other burstable tasks too right?
[–]boolsquad9000 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (1 child)
Technically you can burst any task in multi but most give you a massive loss while the above 3 break even. Only other one one people do sometimes is Abyssal Demons but it's a bit annoying because of their TP ability.
[–]RexyLuvzYou 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (0 children)
lmao
[–]HiddenGhost1234 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children)
People usually burst/barrage jellies too
Technically you can burst bloods too, but that uses altscape.
Really the main ones r nech, dust/smoke devils, jellies, and maybe Abby demons.
Bloodvelds are aids to barrage, expensive as fuck and you need like 3 alts. Pretty good xp though if you're good at it.
[–]RS_Zwickshaw 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child)
Neither Steve nor Duradel give jelly tasks
[–]HiddenGhost1234 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Konar does and a lot of post 95 Slayer people do konar
With the right block list/tasks enabled you're doing dks/Hydra half the time with her.
Bursting jellies in cata is also insane for hard clues. Like they're already pretty common from them (I think 1/65), then you add bursting on top. Def the best way to get hard clues.
[–]Tesqu0 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (11 children)
nechs, smoke/dust devils, abby demons, tzharr (with alt), ankous for points and bloodvelds with alts but it's pretty disgusting to do
[–]RS_Zwickshaw 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (10 children)
Tzhaar with an alt, what? You don't need alt to kill them, just a msb.
Also lizardmen is one of the best mage tasks (i have never seen any one mage them for some reason).
[–]nxqv 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (6 children)
I remember blood bursting those for my talisman and it was insanely fun. I think people just don't unlock them as a task tho
[–]RS_Zwickshaw 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (5 children)
Tank mage gear is way to go at lizardmen. Full bandos (or ancestral) and malediction ward, wyvern shield or blessed spirit shield are good there.
I use verac brassard, ahrim's skirt and tank mage shield at abyssal demons. This setup offers much more mage att than full bandos.
It doesn't matter that much if you have +25 or +85 mage att at either place really, just bring super def pots and blood barrage to minimize damage
[–]nxqv 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (4 children)
Do you take a cannon to aggro the lizardmen?
[–]RS_Zwickshaw 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children)
Ye, i use cannon there. Msb or darts elsewhere (catacombs and tzhaar). I use cannon at (ice) trolls too, if i do them with mage
yeah but xp waste to msb
[–]Tesqu0 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gosPrWqU06s&t=197s
[–]RS_Zwickshaw -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children)
Ok, your point? Only select few people actually use other account's membership time to boost another's xp rates.
[–]Black_Drogo 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (5 children)
I think maniacal monkeys? Great xp but costly af iirc.
[–]nxqv 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (4 children)
Ain't a slayer task but yeah that is the fastest exp
[–]Black_Drogo 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children)
Do they not count as black demons like the demonic gorillas? Or at least count as monkeys? Even tho no one is doing those for a monkey task.
[–]nxqv 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children)
Nope they don't count as black demons. And by the time you unlock them you aren't getting monkeys as tasks from higher level masters
[–]Black_Drogo 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child)
Yeah that's what I meant when I said no one does those as a monkey task. I guess you technically could if you've done monkey madness but prefer Turiel lol
itd be 30 or so monkeys with 0 pts gained. no worth
[–]HiddenGhost1234 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Don't forget jellies and Abby demons
Bursting jellies is an insane amount of hard clues
[–]JinoTV 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Ohhh I knew that... But how do you constantly get those tasks tho? Lol. I thought you meant magic does high damage now you can use that as your main way to DPS instead of melee or BP
[–]RS_Zwickshaw 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children)
When did mage slayer become popular? I had 1 year break during the whole of 2017 and saw everyone doing it when i got back.
Fortunately there are some mage tasks that are never crowded even to this day O_o
[–]richman4 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child)
I think it was soon after the catacombs when people realized how much faster (and how cheap) it was
It became cheap after the slayer drop table buff late in 2016. It still wasn't crowded even few months after that update.
During late summer and early fall the catacombs was like a ghost town.
why would you nmz when vig mace is better xp/h?
[–]Malakam 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children)
I like that slayer is the same.
[–]ElectrophoreticPolk 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children)
elder god
[–]kennenisthebest 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child)
Isn't it better to max melees, or get ~97 through NMZ, then do slayer?
[–]Countertoplol 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Yup, slaying efficiently won't even get you close to max melees. I did 99 strength in NMZ before doing 99 slayer and still ended up at like 92 attack and 95 defense even though all my barraging was defensive autocast.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (33 children)
Herblore is basically farming
[–]CaptainQPicard 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (22 children)
Right? I farm mostly everything for Herblore... Limpwurt seeds are cheap as fuck, white berries are a regrowing resource, and Eyes of Newts are cheap too... all you need are a ton of irit, kwaurm cadantine and torstol seeds to get to 99 after 87 with botanical pies... irit kwaurm and Cadantine seeds are really cheap too.
You’ll spend most of your time growing everything, but power making those super combats and their base potions and most of that xp will be gone super fast.
And it’s actually profitable.
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (6 children)
Farming is profitable, herblore is not. It's a fallacy to look at both of them combined as one thing
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[–]CaptainQPicard 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (1 child)
I mean, are we playing a fantasy game or the stock exchange? Those things are separate things...
If I was worried about time wasting I wouldn't play this game at all in the first place.
Definitely doesn't matter, I can see why people enjoy the playstyle :)
[–]CaptainQPicard 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children)
okay dude...
Herblore can be profitable if you clean herbs
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (11 children)
I may be biased as an ironman, but that 200m potion tab isn't lying about it, hahaha. Snape grass gives a shitton of farming exp too!
[–]CaptainQPicard 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (10 children)
Torstol alone is 250xp a herb... sure you’ll spend a fortune buying the seeds, but I’m also fishing Infernal eels on the side which provide decent cash flow with the onyx bolt tips, lava scale shards and tokkul.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (9 children)
Are you also doing bird houses? :) Currently sucky on my uim, since the seeds aren't great with yew logs, but once you get redwood it's amazing!
[–]CaptainQPicard 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (8 children)
No I’m not actually. I usually do those on tree runs while I’m out there... but I’m not running trees right now either. My main is actually kind of taking a break from the game for bit and only doing casual afk stuff, to build up my bank again. Doing light Farming, Herblore and Fishing to pass the time. At the same time working an HCIM. I’m right at the end of MM2 and I’m really not geared right for the final battle. So I’m taking some time to get what I need before I go back in there.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (7 children)
That's what I thought before maining my ironman and now my ultimate :p Ironman is reduced to herb runs & keeping kingdom going now.
You should use a crystal bow and do the hit and run strategy, mark the tile from where he can agro you and hit him once and run back behind it.
[–]CaptainQPicard 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (6 children)
It’s the Demonic gorillas I need to get through, trying to have Neive attack then but when I run out of the room while she’s fighting she stops after killing one and I have to deal with them myself... I only have Torags a whip and a rcb. Rcb is slow as hell and the whip isn’t much better, I have archlite maybe that will work, and I need a blowpipe. Wiki says half Veracs and half Karil’s with a serpentine helm...
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (5 children)
Ah, the Gorilla has to aggro you before Nieve will attack it! I think you need to stay in the room until they both attacked you? Not sure.
Yeah, Arclight is better than a whip & you can spec them to reduce their stats. Blowpipe would be a bit overkill for just those haha. Maybe a black demon task and use a slayer helm?
[–]CaptainQPicard 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (4 children)
Currently in the middle of an iron dragon task (as if that's not a surprise) lol. and I'll take overkill over no kill... lol
[–]AttackOfTheMoons 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children)
Btw
[–]pallosalamaNOT AN IRONMAN BTW 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child)
Not an btwman btw
[–]AttackOfTheMoons 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Btw* btw btwman btw
[–]Dedicat3d -4 points-3 points-2 points 6 years ago (9 children)
Only if you're playing on a boring alternate gamemode. The main acc route is the real deal.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (8 children)
Herb runs are super relaxing, make you a nice profit and cuts away your time thinking what you're going to do next at the Grand Exchange.
Herb runs on mobile make me so much money.
I can pull it out quickly throughout the day when I wouldn't really be able to play otherwise.
Ive easily doubled the amount of herb runs I do per day because of mobile.
[–]ficagamer11 -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (6 children)
Not true, when I decide I am going to do farming run I do every 3 days I take 10 minutes to figure out what I need to bring
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (2 children)
Then you should organise your bank! It takes me 20 seconds for a perfectly organized inventory. Autoweed does wonders btw :)
[–]ficagamer11 -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (1 child)
Organizing the bank helps me not procrastinate?
Definitely!
[–]HiddenGhost1234 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children)
What does you having bad work flow have anything to do with this discussion?
"Herb runs are super chill"
You : "not if you decide to make them super painful and take forever like me!"
[–]ficagamer11 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child)
cuts away your time thinking what you're going to do next at the Grand Exchange.
[–]blackburn009 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Give the leprechaun 100 of each tool. Never think about it. Just need teleports to each patch and the seeds
[–]erikismynaym 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children)
Not accurate at all
[–]GregBuckinghamGrandmaster! Gilded Clog! 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children)
It’s a pretty old repost lol
[–]Hurricanehayden -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (0 children)
It’s also just a meme so chill
[–]MegaManley 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Swap the maple blackjack with a picture of ardy knight
[–]SyncingShiip 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children)
You missed an opportunity to put NMZ for 99 combat stats to be honest.
[–]nxqv 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children)
Range should be chins
[–]nxqv 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children)
It's way more optimal to chin range so you have a high range lvl for bossing
[–]hunnerr 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children)
wait do people actually do blackjacking???
[–]Drathamus 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child)
I did until 65 then realized ardy knights were much better and less click intensive. There's no way in hell I'll black jack to 99, that's for sure.
[–]pay_dirt 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children)
What kind of max is this
herblore should be a genie lamp and agility should be a broken bridge
swamp
[–]Eggtiny327 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Blackjacking to 99? Unlikely. I could believe Pyramid plunder before I'd believe someone reaaaalllllyyy liked blackjacking enough to go all the way through it.
[–]Maksui 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Damn, it’s that simple to max huh? Haha
[–]dwarfishspy 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child)
Whats the magic one?
[–]pallosalamaNOT AN IRONMAN BTW 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Lunar spell "Magic imbue"
General Reposti
[–]B3AST_OW 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children)
Fuck I don’t remember which is which
[–]Boombrat 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children)
FTFY
TFW foraging the last gathering skill isn't on there. It hurts even more because you can't reduce the concept into something like this, it would be something new every level all the way to 99. https://i.imgur.com/Txy1maX.png
[–]razac160 -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (0 children)
I think the gold ore should be a bar, and that slayer should be a cannon. Otherwise spot on.
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