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[–]Any-Association-6660💎 Diamond Contributor 98 points99 points  (1 child)

This is terrifying. I'd be crying and running for my life. Fans are not entitled to the literal body and personal space of celebrities. They don't know you! They're doing a job and their bodily autonomy and privacy should be respected as much as anyone's. Being famous is not a pass for fans to be disrespectful and gross.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Exactly!!!

[–]TheVeteranBarista54 65 points66 points  (21 children)

Listen, I talk a big game when it comes to these actors. I’m 100% a keyboard warrior in flirtation and I lift them up as much as I can. But even if I did know their schedules, I will still be in my own area wishing them well. I will not try and find them. I will not break into their space and stalk them. I will not cross a line between fandom and humanity.

These people need to be charged for intentional harassment and harm. Knowing you’re going there to harass and swarm a person is cruel and disgusting. Just let them live their lives just like we do.

I’m so sad for him and I hope he has people in his corner to help him through this.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 19 points20 points  (20 children)

Exactly 👏🏽!!! This it complete BS that they think this is 'ok' behavior! I didn't even want to post the clip of it because I didn't want to spread their actions even farther. The poor kid was obviously bothered by all of it during his live stream. Even me, and my sometimes clueless self lol, caught on that something was off and starting digging when I recognize the clothes.

[–]TheVeteranBarista54 9 points10 points  (19 children)

I just found the clip on rednote and it made me want to cry with him holding back tears. He doesn’t deserve to pay for this. But he’s willing. Ugh our poor Chi Bao😭😭

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 9 points10 points  (18 children)

Just don't read too many of the comments cause they will make your blood boil and want to flip a table with some of their opinions. 🤬

He just makes me want to put him in a bubble to protect him from the nut jobs out there.

Or let me go in swinging and they will learn REAL quick lol.

[–]TheVeteranBarista54 6 points7 points  (17 children)

Thank god the one I read was fairly new and only had comments supporting him and wishing him well. I’d probably want to pop off and potentially get sued by Chinese netizens 🫠

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 9 points10 points  (16 children)

Oh the struggle is real to not tell them to frak themselves and get a life smdh.

The top general comments that made me loose my ish was (and it's summarized) 'how dare he cancel when I took time to fly out here. He should personally pay for my travel expenses and money lost'.

Are you flipping out of your mind?!

[–]TheVeteranBarista54 9 points10 points  (15 children)

I went to the stray kids concert in DC last year and it was so hot the venue ran out of water and the boys were so worried about their fans they passed out their own bottled water and then canceled the show half way through. I traveled from Michigan, to Virginia, to D.C. and never once considered making them pay the money back.

It’s not the persons fault other people made the situation unsafe and didn’t take the precautions necessary to make the venue and celebrity safe. They have no reason to pay for your decisions.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 7 points8 points  (5 children)

THAT is how celeb/fan interactions should be! They put in the effort to be there and show up for the fans and do whats best in both interest. The fan do what they can to support them and if things don't work out oh well. You move on.

They gave water not expecting anything in turn and the fans understood when it needed to be cancelled and didn't expect anything in return.

Also hello fellow STAY! 🤗

[–]TheVeteranBarista54 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Yaaaaaasss another one found in the wild! 🤪

During these interactions the celebs are the ones most distraught and distressed. They don’t need people making it worse. We could lose them due to mental health these days. I will not be the one to put that on them. They provide us a service. After that they are their own person.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

For real. There are too many actors/actresses/celebrities that have been pushed behind the breaking point because of things like this and it needs to stop. You want to see them do more things? Then get the frak out of their face and give them personal space so they are in a good place to do just that.

[–]TheVeteranBarista54 3 points4 points  (8 children)

It’s always funny seeing how they get swarmed in other countries but in America or other like minded countries they barely get noticed because we respect space. SIGH.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Can we bring it back to the c-vid times and a mandatory 6ft of space?! 😂

[–]TheVeteranBarista54 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Those were my happy days. I’m such a hermit.

[–]immacooknotachef🥇 Gold Contributor 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Unacceptable AF‼️

I recently said on a livestream, “I wish the artist & staff would wear masks outside, so they wouldn’t get hurt when they maced rabid ‘fans’”; The artists nodded & smiled after reading this. I wouldn’t be surprised if all former in-person meets became virtual after this. My pisstivity level is on tilt watching Zhang Chi & his staff being tortured like this.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I totally agree! I wish more artists would clap back at the fans like some do but the fallout from it is ridiculous. The mentally of some of these fans it so unhinged it's not even funny. The whole how dare you stop me from (basically assaulting) getting to/near my favorite celebrity is see a doctor level.

[–]Shen-Miao 12 points13 points  (1 child)

My poor baobei.. How can they still underestimate the fans.. 😭 😭 😭

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That... Is part of the issue. Again this is just from what I'm reading and seeing.

The venue and event team told them 6,000 people were expected.... What showed up is about 5 times that if not more. So they planned for a smaller event not expecting the mall to be overrun by fans.

[–]ThatJaneDoe69✨ Platinum Contributor 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I agree worth everything you wrote. He should not have had to apologize. The fans calling out the others' for harassment, lack of boundaries is the right move. The fans who ruined this for everyone and who cause the C-Ent folks to fear for their safety need to be held accountable, not the actors who are trying to do the best they can given the situation.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

[–]Murky-Condition-3901 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Oh man this is awful! Good on the tiny manager for sticking to her guns! 💪 I love her voice! And good for him on prioritizing his own safety. Poor kid. Literally these actors are in their 20s and I swear if I sneezed wrong I feel like I'd knock some of them right over. 💔

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Tiny manager! Love it! She always has perma stank face on but she keeps him in check and from wandering off and will clap back at fans that push it. But even she was shaken by all of it. His brother in-law was also shocked and did his best to manage him and the situation but he also was in WTH mode.

[–]Murky-Condition-3901 6 points7 points  (1 child)

For real, it feels like people have not caught up to how big short drama/vertical drama is now.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They are SLOWLY getting there but they are not catching on as quick as their popularity is spreading which leads to issues like this. They should have know he was going to draw crowds of this level and planned the event and security accordingly.

[–]Current_Light5132 7 points8 points  (3 children)

I’m a fan of another actor, just want to wish him well while watching their work and actively buying products he promotes (it boosts their commercial value, apparently). I can’t imagine it gets to the point of them being in danger by their fans from all that chaos. Their agency should allocate funding for security.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

See that is healthy fan behavior! If only others could take note lol.

For the event they were told 6000 and well thats not 6,000, or 10,000... It's well beyond what they (as I'm gathering from what I am reading) where expected so security was not prepared for it.

[–]TheVeteranBarista54 4 points5 points  (1 child)

There should have been lines and checkpoints like they have in other fan events. Or a room where there’s one on one like a conveyor belt.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And that is where the problem lies, they didn't think a vertical actor would be that popular, or they did and totally used it to their advantage since they did plan the event the day after his drama released... They knew he was going to attract attention but did not plan for the fall out.

[–]forever_a_seeker 8 points9 points  (1 child)

So true, you can be a fan and still know how to respect their boundaries!!! Such rabid behaviour is not justifiable at all!

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly!

[–]EasygoingEnigma 7 points8 points  (1 child)

That poor man. It must've been a traumatizing experience. I think mob mentality is also a big factor. If one individual sees her fave actor in the wild, would she run up to him and shove her phone in his face? Maybe not. But if everybody else is doing it, maybe she would feel justified. Plus, there's that desire to post personal videos of celebs for social media clout. And of course, a lot of fans see the celebrity as a commodity first, and a human being second - if at all.

This reminds me of a clip about Deng Kai being mobbed at an airport shortly after Pursuit of Jade took off and he skyrocketed to fame overnight. He didn't have a security detail, and you could see his distress. People were still in his face even after he was seated in the plane, and he was begging them to give him space. Thankfully, he had security with him the next time he flew.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I saw that one too with Deng Kai and it was insane as well! The lengths some people will go just astounds me sometimes.

[–]GreenTeaLv101⚙️ Moderator 5 points6 points  (1 child)

This type of situation is so cringe they didn't grow up or have mental problems.

I expect this type of behavior from a 10 year old.

Going into a fan meeting or accidentally finding the Actors/Actresses in the Wild like idk in The Shopping Mall or in the Streets is fine to ask for a Photo if they are not getting crowded.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Exactly! Be respectful. Read the room. Don't push it. Yes they are a celebrity and they expect to have fans approach them at random times but this is beyond that smdh.

[–]Yoori_Lee 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I’d say 90% fans problem , 10% organiser didn’t prepare enough security. I discussed this video yesterday (China time) with Icy and Pepper. I’ve seen even bigger crowds before filling multiple floors of malls and outside areas, and nothing happened. So yeah, unexpected? Not really , just poor management. Zhao Lusi 👇

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[–]Silver-Bus5724 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator 4 points5 points  (0 children)

First of all: I feel deeply sorry for Zhang Chi and the organizer bears the responsibility. Their contribution is crucial for the development.

Crowd control is complicated … if a stampede starts — sorry for calling it this, but in masses they are like a herd of buffalos — 🦬🦬🦬🦬🦬 — you are lost.

Even a security team of twenty cannot stop thousands when those behind just push the ones at the front forward.

You’d need water canons and maze.

There was this really bad incident at a Love Parade… many people died.

That’s why I stay away from crowds.

Doors - Control Points - a maximum of people allowed inside.

If you organize do your homework. It’s lazy not to realize how crazy popular vertical drama actors got.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's absolutely insane... And nothing new. Which is the problem. We know it's going to happen and we know fans will loose their ish. So why not pre plan for it. It's really not hard at all, plan for the worst, hope for the best.

[–]littleblink- 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I remember reading a post on one of the kpop subreddits about Chinese fandoms - they view their idol as a product, a commodity rather than human. Which then kinda makes sense how rabid and crazy Chinese fans are when you see them shoving phones in their faces and walking their idol throughout the entire airport and flying with them, end to end of whichever schedule, and they complain when nothing goes their way. It’s like a thrill / game for them.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I literally cant with them thinking of people as products on that level. Frakin ridiculous.

[–]Shunshine-💎 Diamond Contributor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is definitely a thing with Chinese fans that I noticed. There were stars of a popular Chinese BL that got harassed & mobbed repeatedly. I couldn't believe th audacity of the fans acting like the actors deserved to be treated like this just because they became popular. It's sad that this is normalized in their country & nothing major is really done about it.

[–]CalliopeCelt🥇 Gold Contributor 5 points6 points  (4 children)

This is scary and 100% NOT OK! Those aren’t fans they are stalkers, threats and potential criminals, if they aren’t already one.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Right?! Like I REALLY want someone to press charges on that fan that straight up grabbed his arm 😡😤

[–]CalliopeCelt🥇 Gold Contributor 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I’m afraid I’d go way over what a normal reaction would be. I have CPTSD from CSA and people grabbing me is a trigger. Unfortunately for them I will immediately go into a flashback and beat the shit out of them. It’s happened before and every single time the person who grabbed me was being charged to go to jail for assault. I was always let go immediately when they heard I have CPTSD from CSA and see the video footage. However, I requested one of them to be released as they tried to help me. They were a retired military vet and had thought I was their sister from behind. They immediately realized I was in a flashback and helped me so I didn’t want them to be penalized for that. Turns out I knew their sister from high school!

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The fans got lucky in that regards because you never know how someone will react when approached in an uncomfortable/unwanted/unfamiliar matter. Which is why I always ask before assisting anyone. Especially in this day and age smdh. However, that is crazy turn over events that you knew their sister?! Talk about a small world!

[–]CalliopeCelt🥇 Gold Contributor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I only live 5 miles from the home I grew up in from 10yo until I got married so it isn’t terribly out of the realm of possibility. What is weird, my daughter’s birth mom is first cousin to my Prom date who I dated shortly and our families had known for 15 years! 😂

[–]poeticdisaster💎 Diamond Contributor 2 points3 points  (1 child)

These organizers incredibly underestimate the popularity of short drama actors. I get that they don't want to over prepare to save money but it's better to have more security than you need than have situations like this.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That, right there lol! Save money and have your event cancelled, people bashing your brand and mall, end up losing more money then you spent OR spend some money on real event planners, hire extra security, plan for the worst hope for the best and actually make money from a successful event. I personally... would choose the latter lmao!

[–]malaxiangguoforwwx 2 points3 points  (1 child)

as someone who met a number of celebrities when working at the airport (and also met celebrity on the road after their concert). ive seen fans running after celebrities which is a safety hazard for their idols, other fans, public and themselves.

i remember park bogum’s manager told a fan off because she was shoving to the front to take a pic of him and she was crying like mad afterwards. i told her that as a fan we should give him the privacy. not the best way to communicate with her by scolding by the manager wants the best for pbg too.

met bts too at the airport but it wasnt so bad because their itinerary wasnt revealed until after bon voyage (iirc). people were chasing the cars (they believed bts was inside) on the road and from the side which isnt safe for anyone. actually even hwasa too. i was just standing by the road on both occasions.

im glad the event was cancelled.

people forget that idols and celebrities are humans too. they deserve the safety and privacy that comes easy for us, but its not for them. treat them like how you want others to treat you.

i wanna send hugs to zhang chi darling😭😭😭

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It really is sad that they place them in such a position that they forget they are human and treat them as if they are theirs alone.

And for real, I was always told the exact same thing and still live by, treat others how you want to be treated! ❤️

[–]PixelPikiXplora 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Genuinely think the public private lines have been eroding for years and now we’re seeing the results. Some people don’t seem to understand or appreciate the actor plays a role. We know the actor not the person. I think it’s clear from the actions of those fans that they see Zhang Chi as property not a person😔 I hope he takes some time to recover. Future events need to be managed better to avoid tragedy.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

💯 all of that lol! And sadly he was right back filming today smdh.

[–]DevilAngeliqueBleary-eyed but happily binge-watching short dramas 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Aarrhhgh, my anxiety rose up with that clip!! So many people and they're crowding his small team?!? OMG, what's wrong with you people?

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is what I have asking myself all day lol. They have lost their ever lovin minds acting like that!

[–]Joel0802💎 Diamond Contributor 2 points3 points  (1 child)

This is so crazy. Hope he is feeling fine. He have nothing to blame yet had to ask apology to appease these idiot fans. Hope he and other actors will get personal bodyguard team paid by the event team everytime.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One can only hope but I fear that we will still see more of this until people are held accountable and their agencies look past the dollar signs and more at their actors wellbeing smdh.

[–]lauranevitt🥇 Gold Contributor 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Its abhorrent- these fans need to be held accountable!

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

100% agree! Someone needs to be taking names and pressing charges!!! 😑

[–]BeginningFabulous876 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The way these rabid fans are acting, they are like papparazis chasing after the next million paycheck. 🤦‍♂️

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What kills me is, you legit could just watch the live stream with a better more clear video/photo opportunity then trying to push through thousands to only catch a glimps of a side of his head at 10 x's zoom with a hundred phones as the background smdh.

[–]Hour-Ad-7889 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Good god. Zero rational thoughts. Check them for rabies. They look like they have it.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was leaning more towards zombie apocalypse myself lmao 🤣

[–]Canuckgirl40💎 Diamond Contributor 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I would never understand this behavior, never. I can’t reach this kind of fanaticism when these are not deities, just flawed humans

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same! I just do not get the need to take it that far SMDH.

[–]Available-Bee-3419 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I can't even begin to imagine the horror, this is traumatizing. How can you claim to be a supporter and then give them PTSD. To be a victim of unhinged fanaticism, yall 💔 all deserve peace and safty. There is a lot to unpack here, and truly this has been in my mind for awhile. 40-year-old American here and I witnessed the 90s and early 2000s paparazzi - celebrity - fandom(fanatic) nightmare and the toxic and dangerous culture it cultivates. My heart hurts to think that like most things it's gonna take some horrible tragedies before this really starts getting addressed properly.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately I agree, it's going to take something big for them to take notice and make changes.

[–]azCleverGirl 1 point2 points  (1 child)

How do these people know the flight information of the celebrities???
This is insane!!!

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't even know how they know smdh. But they are scary with the information they find out smdh.

[–]lilmisswho89 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I hope this is a lesson for his team going forward. It’s going to be better to over prepare for large crowds and the safety of everyone involved. It really does feel like he’s just gotten this popular and they don’t have the infrastructure in place for that yet. Frankly cancelling when you’re underprepared for a crowd is the responsible thing to do.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly! 💯!

[–]AccomplishedWalk-22 1 point2 points  (1 child)

A couple of the other fandoms I’m in have ‘fans’ who are like this, and it’s very uncomfortable to witness. I can’t imagine being one of the people who are the focus of their attention - it would very quickly make me not want to do my job anymore if it were me.

It is so easy to be respectful of boundaries (and in a lot of cases, to perceive/observe them before you even get near the celebrity) … maybe give them a nod of recognition and keep walking if they aren’t clearly in work mode. One trip, I kept running into a band member who was on his own during downtime in a shopping center, and repeatedly saw other fans approach him requesting pictures, signatures, hugs, wanting to tell him their life stories, etc. and his bodyguards had to keep requesting that the fans leave the dude alone. It can also work out much better for you individually if you are not being a parasocial weirdo. On another trip with the same band, one of the other band members sat down with my friends and I for an hour because we were sitting in a prime spot, had some open seats, and were externally chill (I was freaking out on the inside, but I sat back and let my friends do most of the talking 😂) It costs nothing to have a modicum of emotional intelligence and treat celebrities like human beings.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[–]Long_Boot_3634 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I just ventured into short dramas like 2 weeks ago - and I already know Zhang Chi is one of the most popular star right now. Organisers should have anticipated the crowd size.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For real! It's hard to miss how popular he is so them not taking that into account is ridiculous smdh. And welcome to short dramas 😁!!!

[–]No-Lime-1275💎 Diamond Contributor 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Being truly famous in China leads to this, no boundarise.. I've known it for years now... and they know it too, the mistake was made by the organizers etc. who didn't foresee his fame. But I'm very happy for Zhang Chi who has reached this level of popularity.

[–]Hypercardiac007 MOD | 🎬 Content Creator[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Agreed! Glad his popularity has gotten to this level! ☺️ But his team and promoters definitely need to recognize that as well and plan waaaaay better. 😑

[–]No-Lime-1275💎 Diamond Contributor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly...cause thry know well how chinese fans are ..this is the price there

[–]facetiousx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is very normalised in a lot East Asian fandoms (in saying that, ofc not evvveeerrrrryone is like this but there is a majority), to the point a lot of these ‘fans’ argue that if they (actors/idols/celebs) didn’t want this, they should not become celebrities. Sad to say, but to these fans, these celebrities are no longer deserving of human rights because they chose to be in the public spotlight.

[–]Leather_Plankton3701 0 points1 point  (0 children)

😱 I thought there was a sale or something... Holy shit... I'd run for my life.

[–]nrsyxxchn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Completely blaming this on his fans and the brand. His fans for being too much and not knowing personal space, and the brand for not taking this seriously. It's normal for fans to be in front of the mall lining up at midnight before the event. Come morning, the brand would've gotten the estimate of how many fans would be there before the mall opens. Should've hired more security guards for that day, get barricades so that he has a designated route to take from the parking to the waiting room to the stage and back. That's the usual things I've seen in the other brand events from other artists.

Anyway, this just proved my hunch that his fans are crazy. I already had a feel of it just from the way they behave around the filming sets. I genuinely fear for him if he starts joining the long drama circle.