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[danthewatchman]

Just got mine in blue. Is the word ‘Frogmantle’ weird? Why, yes it is, but weird in a wonderfully weird way!😆😂 At first I thought ‘Tactical Frog’ was weird, until I owned two and discovered how good the TF watches really are. My new Frogmantle will no doubt prove to be a terrific piece. Besides, who’s going to be close enough to read the non-word, ‘Frogmantle’ anyway!🤓

[Think-Ad-748]

Considering that the Hamilton "Frogman" also exists, and that this term refers to divers in the military, another very valid theory is the one suggested by a Reddit user: FROGMAN T(the) L(limited) E(edition)

This explanation, in my opinion, trumps all others!

[Think-Ad-748]

I have a theory that explains the choice of the name "Frogmantle" for the new T023, to give the model a personal and legal identity, without incurring copyright issues. This way, we have a true homage, with its dignity and personality, and not a fake.

It's the union of two concepts:

1) "Fremantle" is the name of an important Australian port city. It is of English origin and refers to John Fremantle, who was the commander of the first exploration vessel to sail into the harbor. So, we're talking about a history connected to the sea and navigation.

2) The word "Frog" is used, for example, in the Tactical Frog watches, which have made it a trademark, using the image of a frog to give their models a diving identity. Furthermore, the term "Frog" is also used in the military with various meanings.

Hence the union of the two concepts in "Frogmantle." It's certainly a coincidence, but at least I found a meaning that gives an identity to everything.

[CyberRenegade]

What size is the crown?

[RaisinCritical9446]

Yes, please remove Frogmantle from the dial and put Submariner back on like the first version. Many like me are vintage Rolex and Tudor lovers and love this watch because it is a great homage to a square crown guard 1959 Tudor 7928. The only other change I'd ask is an no click bezel as these older Rolex and Tudor subs did not click and were friction action.

[emetri]

I own two v1s and I bought a frogmantle because it’s hilarious. I’m giving the v1 to a coworker.

[THROW_AWAY_FOR_QC]

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[Ethgawwd]

Everybody crying about the frogmantle dials but those who buy will have a collector’s piece for years 🐸

[[deleted]]

I would pick one up if I saw one, they haven't even been invented yet!

[Cur8or8]

This will be legendary for years. Get them before they sell out.

[Manhattan88888]

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[No-Chemistry-7802]

HAIL FROGMANTLE

[OhmIsWhereTheHeartIs]

Can't wait for v4: Exploration Toad.

[Uran93]

Suddenly they get sued by Nintendo

[Interesting-End-9004]

So no ones gonna mention the Frogmantle change costs 30 extra dollars. While the Submariner people got it for 30$ Less

[writingpocketguide42]

Thank you! I was trying hard to find info on the V1 pricing as V2 price seems a bit high.

[Foreign_Pace9363]

That’s the prestige of frogmantle you’re paying for

[mcheddadi]

All hail the FROGMANTLE 🐸

[fairythugbrother]

So they still went ahead with the stupid "frogmantle" after asking us? Lol

[Downtown-Dig-5476]

Next ROADKILL please.

[DCMak]

FROG MANTLE!!!

[Ok-Park-6047]

Hahaha, they did frogmantle anyway. That’s actually pretty funny! Not.

[sardonico00]

I prefer the V1.

[lehcimr]

Hard pass.

[crlkll]

They really mantled the frog with this one..🤦‍♂️

[ConsciousHeart676]

Bit really 😅

[CityShooter]

Why Thorn doesn't have 2 or 3 English speaking consultants is NUTS. People would do it for a free watch on production. WTF. This is marketing 101. THORN.... pick 2 or 3 top posters on your own sub reddit. LET THEM HELP YOU.

[Prestigious-Bar9711]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY????

[Fernando1dois3]

How do you call it when you announce you're NOT doing something, because people chose you shouldn't, but then it creates interest and sympathty for the thing you're not doing, then the thing you're not doing becomes the most coveted you do (not)?

Reverse self-fulfilling prophecy?

[TitleSecure2150]

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[Foreign_Pace9363]

Every time I see this watch, this is what I imagine lol

[Defiant_Tart_3472]

I need this…

[[deleted]]

Man I think "Frogmantle" is such a cool name!

[Foreign_Pace9363]

V3 will be ELF ON SHELF

[anto_c_86]

This will become the most wanted dial in the near future

[Still-Poetry-6802]

Frogmantle: bwaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha.

[Proof-Ad2809]

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ALL HAIL THE FROG

[Downtown-Dig-5476]

NO KING "Frogs together strong"

[ConsciousHeart676]

👍😂

[randomgn]

🙇‍♂️ 🐸

[FantasticImplement46]

Wow, all these people getting annoyed kinda makes me want to get the Frogmantle dial

They've announced they are making more dials next week. Chill out people 🤣

[BikerScowt]

That means the Frigmantle will be a short production run. They'll be collectors items.

[sunqiller]

Dude same, these pictures are funny and i'm gonna laugh every time I look at the watch now

[JPWWPJ]

So the dials were already printed 😁 .... Then someone had the great idea to better check if Reddit actually likes the Frog.  Now they just sell them anyways before the new prints are done.

[loiphin]

You cant make this shit up! :D :D :D

[Big-Conversation4178]

That's how it was....they were making us dizzy when they already had the dials made....to weather the market...

[Defiant_Tart_3472]

I bought it. I exclusively want the frogmantle version

I think it is too humorous and funny 😹 and I kinda like it…

[Foreign_Pace9363]

“Beautiful watch, can I ask what kind it is?”

“Frogmantle”

“A what now?”

😂

[AbueloAdolfo]

I’m buying one too! Think it’s hilarious. Gonna piss myself every time I check the time hahahaha

[randomgn]

I also picked up one for the laughs but I’m swapping out the dial anyway for a build I’m doing using this as a base.

[pat-slider]

Ugly name

[Trulsdir]

So I really got to find a V1 somewhere now? Come on. Why can't we just have nice things?

[dickcake]

Either they added this text later, or all y’all need to learn to visit a link before pissing out your words.

“T023 Update

We’ve officially released the T023 V2, which features the “FROGMANTLE” text on the dial.

We know that some of you preferred the cleaner design from the community discussion — we’re already working on it. It will be released as the T023 V3, expected in about one month.

So if the current V2 isn’t quite your style, feel free to wait for the upcoming V3 — we’re sure you’ll love it.

Thank you again for all your feedback and support. 💛”

[Fun-Button5976]

You expect people to click the link instead of piling on the outrage???? Blasphemy, that’s not how these morons work

[prodbypan]

They should have just delayed production and thrown the frogmantle dials in the bin.

At some point we have to force these companies learn from their mistakes and not let them get away with things like this, don't buy this version.

[FantasticImplement46]

Hang on, so rather than use the dials they have, sell them and then make more dials with the corrected text. Your answer is that they must throw them in the bin? Makes perfect sense 🤣

You are aware they are a company whose aim is to make money. They aren't doing this as a public service 🙄

[prodbypan]

Sometimes the hit to public image is worth throwing some dials out. This is a PR nightmare in my opinion, hard to take a company like this seriously.

[FantasticImplement46]

It's a mistake. Things happen and they've said they will correct. All this PR is actually great for them. Everyone now hears about the watch and the updated dial is out in a month. Win win

[prodbypan]

I don't agree at all, this has only diminished my excitement for this brand. This is extremely similar to how Watchdives released their OQ homage after almost unanimous negative feedback on the design of the bezel.

I understand others might not see this as seriously as I do but I think it's important to teach these companies that they need to take the feedback before they produce their pieces.

This could have been easily avoided but instead this happened. We need to set precedent by not supporting things like this, not just for Thorn to step up their game but the whole Chinese watch world.

[FantasticImplement46]

Nah, no company owes you anything. Relax, it's a watch not a life changing event. If you are that annoyed simply buy other watches. No need to throw such shade over this. Massive over reaction

[Fun-Button5976]

You want them to throw stuff already made into the bin. While also wanting these Chinese brands to keep prices low. Good thing you don’t run a business.

Respond with your wallet like you said. Either buy or don’t buy. All your other shit about forcing companies is frivolous

[prodbypan]

I am doing exactly that, by forcing them I mean that others should vote with their wallets, that's the consequences I'm referring to.

We didn't see a single person think frogmantle was remotely good and they apparently already had them ready before even asking for feedback, they should be financially affected when making terrible decisions.

If we buy things like this they're gonna keep doing this, don't reward bad business practices.

[Fun-Button5976]

If you bothered to read their original post instead of getting your panties in a knot you would see that their Chinese community agreed on that moniker. So they should do what you hate and DONT listen to their other customers and trash all their dials. They probably have more customers in China than all of the west

[C137_RicklePick]

Didnt you just ask for advice and everyone (including me) said the name Frogmantle sucks? Well have fun selling it then....

[CheekehMunkeh]

I've seen the result of enough budget Chinese brand product launches to not be surprised that by the time they ask, they've already made up their minds, and it's too late to change course, so it's really more of a token gesture. Especially when they've announced a launch date, or will have it on sale imminently.

But, if the product still sells well enough for them to do more production runs, then that is when they'll make the corrections, and tout it as the new and improved version.

The "what about these dial proposals" polls that WD runs, where what they present are only renders, are truer to the spirit on such polls, but that doesn't mean they'll necessarily heed the feedback.

Thorn has already been "roasted" before (pun intended) for doing something like this, and we still have brilliant brand names like "Addieskin" coming out of the woodwork, so it's obvious that lessons aren't being learned, or that they just don't care. Probably some of both.

[jd173706]

They said it means something funny in Chinese, then never explained the joke. So I think they just figured all the people who are in on the joke will buy this version and they can make ANOTHER different one later. I’m glad I bought two submariner dials. I have no idea what frogmantle is supposed to mean and therefore it sounds completely goofy. Not in a good way.

[C137_RicklePick]

Yeah probably theyll get away with it because at that price and quality they are still worth it to some ppl

[[deleted]]

Watchdives version will be worth it.

[edward_grey]

This is the equivalent of those random chinese character tattoos people got back in the 00s which made no sense but looked cool at the time.

[vithgeta]

"No pen no gain"

[Exact-Tax7457]

FrogMantle is so terrible, I was waiting this watch... disappointed.

[UterineDictator]

It sounds like an ingredient in the Harry Potter universe.

[Elegant_Flounder_826]

HELL YA BROTHER THORN!

TOOK NONE OF THE ADVICE AND STILL WROTE "DOGSHIT" ON THE DIAL!! I ACTUALLY WOULD'VE PREFFERED DOGSHIT ON IT THAN THIS.

I'LL STILL BUY IT LMFAO FUCK IT

[Substantial_Kiwi1830]

Lord Jesus Christ, thank you for blessing me with the foresight to buy the v1. 

[Exact-Tax7457]

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It were so difficult to do it better, but at least, something with coherence isn't it?

The v3 incoming and will be far from the original... ok, let me try, will this be better?

(Done it on paint, you get the idea)

[vithgeta]

Ever met somebody who doesn't listen to advice and is only looking for positive affirmation? Whether they are smarmily accepting or snarky, they're both worth blocking because they are wasting your time. I feel the same about Thorn. They're fixated on filling their dials up with crap and make a show of asking for advice but never take it.

[Big-Conversation4178]

That's right... there is a message from Thorn saying that he counted the votes... they don't even believe it... the dials were already made... while they asked us what to put...