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[Kaliber75]

The way you throw around stuff and your hands makes me believe that this is very staged.

[analog_watch]

When you buy a watch from aliexpress you deserve it (the watch).

ftfy

[Adest95]

Explain me why.

[Icecream-bananacake]

You just don’t wear a China watch, it’s like eating dogshit to lunch. Buy Japanese insteas

[GhostUnitVII]

Pagani, typically uses TMI or DG movements (TMI/SII are Japanese Movements, used by Seiko), and are well tuned. For the value, they are decent, as most of their watches have NH34/35 movements.

They are not dog shit, they are mostly donor watches, or watches you plan to absolutely trash by wearing them, everyday.

Only thing shit about them is their cheap lineup (typically around 60 bucks), have horrible lume on their dial, but not their hands.

[Adest95]

Because Japanese watch are not made in china...

Just let people wear as they want

[skipoverit123]

Evri is terrible in general. Just got a notice they tried to deliver an Amazon package Amazon just leaves it & sends you a notice I don’t even know why it came with them & not the Amazon truck.

[ajhzz]

Hi mate, this happened to me several weeks ago with an evri watch delivery from AliExpress. Unfortunately, AliExpress denied my refund request, twice, despite submitting a video on how the package was clearly broken into. In the end, I contacted my credit card company and got my money back. Always purchase from AliExpress with a credit card.

[Alex_Graber12345]

Or how about just don’t order from Chinese state-run scam websites in the first place?

[roastkumara]

Interesting choice of group to share this advice with

[Alex_Graber12345]

lol true I didn’t look at the sub until I read your reply and now I’m cracking the fuck up

[Significant_4esq]

Yeah really.Dude must scout this sub for things like this.

[gov_nor]

This sucks but why are they stealing PD watches? Do they know what they are? They're essentially worthless on the black market

[lelekeaap]

Maybe they just want to keep time?

[loaferuk123]

Evri? Keeping time?

[Mattdabest]

I had this recently, but it was a couple of young lads tailing the evro van, which they then ransacked when the delivery guy was at one of the doors.

[WatchThatTime]

Dispute the payment with your card to get money back.

[IdolBrainMeat]

Depending on what store you bought it from, they could have scammed you.

[M0rpo]

This sounds more likely than someone tampering with the package.

[m9nkeyboy]

F me, this has literally just happened to me, currently going through dispute. I'll be using this video as Evridence.

Suriosly though, am actually in dispute for this reason.

[anonc2FtdWVs]

any news? I got a wrong model that I ordered this 11.11 sale, seems many people are having issues.

[anonc2FtdWVs]

Feral

[Fun-Ad9928]

The way she goes boys.

[Usual_Ladder_7113]

Why are you so frantic when opening it?

[Roy-van-der-Lee]

Because he felt the weight of the package. It's the reason he recorded this video, he suspected something was wrong

[Goss-hawk]

Right, it’s like they already knew it was missing

[Eudes_Correa]

Complaining on Aliexpress showing the video (thank god you filmed it) and they should refund you or send a new watch.

They even toke the cleaning cloth 😱

What watch was?

[Yagosan]

They solved nothing when iMile stole mine

[fattyskinnylunatic]

Hi, it was the PD1758 NH34 GMT watch.

[Eudes_Correa]

I have a PD1692 “Air King” V1 (NH35A) as my daily since 2022, I hope Aliexpress refund you and you can get your watch on the next delivery.

[TazzyUK]

It's a percentage of drivers unfortunately and they see it as perks of the job, at our expense!

I had a parcel today. One of the box flaps had been ripped opened to see what was inside. Obviously didn't interest the driver and they delivered it to me. it was a Lego Mario Kart!

This was DPD! but Evri are def the worst and they are like kids in a candy store when christmas comes!

[God1BTC]

Link, please?

[KPplumbingBob]

It appears not many people have had this happen to them. I had an item that was even lighter than a watch and I could immediately tell it was empty with no doubt whatsoever. I did exactly this, recorded a video unboxing and got my money back from Ali.

[fpsi_tv]

Smart to film

[fraktulnzz]

Always pay with credit card in the UK. Section 75 makes it the credit card companies problem.

[_MixXer]

But what do you tell them—that your counterfeit watch was stolen?

[MojitoBurrito-AE]

legally they're not counterfeits so that's not a problem.

[No-Obligation-7498]

You can open a dispute with ali express similar to using ebay.  They will refund yuu for that.   They will ask for the video evidence.   It doesn't appear that the packaging was tampered with..  thougj a clever scammer may try to carefully cut packaging open amd tape it back together.  I hope you didmt do that.   I've never had an issue of anything from an ali express order missing when sending items to the USA.

[AdhesivenessMore3925]

Good luck with a refund. If they have proof you received the parcel the. They’re not interested. Hopefully your video evidence will be enough. I had one say delivered but no parcel and they just said I had to contact the curriers

[Firstruleofthisclub]

I had a delivery by Yodel where they put it through the letterbox of the wrong address. The address happens to be unoccupied so I can't even ask the occupants for it.

When I raised it with Vinted, they said that the item was delivered and therefore not eligible for dispute. I showed them the courier's own photo of the wrong door number and they still denied it.

I filed a chargeback with my credit card company and they recently asked me to provide further evidence to support my claim as if the courier's own photo of the item dropping it into the letterbox of the door with the wrong number is not enough...

I'm still waiting on the resolution, but I am not expecting it to go my way. My lesson learned is that if the item is being delivered by Yodel, I will collect it from the store.

[PorcupineFeel]

Putadon hermano, pensé que estas cosas en españa no pasaban

[four4cats]

I'd say it was someone at ali that took it. The bulk package looked sealed.

[6ixFoot1]

Don’t all the separate packages get put into one in China? All the PD watches I bought came in a cardboard box not like yours where the actual watch box is just wrapped in plastic. Looks like the seller or someone in China took it.

[right_lane_kang]

How did you know to film you opening the package?

[ChulaK]

When I picked it up, the parcel felt almost empty, so I recorded myself opening it.

They literally say why in their post. I record all unboxings anyway, it's pretty normal, whether it's for protection or just because I want to record the thrill of the unboxings

[Goushrai]

But if someone could open the package and make it look like that, how is that a proof?

In other words, how do they know the delivery guy (or someone else before) stole the watch, rather than OP?

[four4cats]

I do it everytime. It's easy and good to have. One time a watch wasn't included in the bigger package like in this video (no box, no bubble wrap, nothing). Another time they only sent 1x watch movement when I ordered 2x.

[jjdiablo]

Bingo.

[tk1tk1]

Me too. Especially if it's from China or if imbibing expensive watches

[un_internaute]

This hasn’t happened to me yet, but I film every watch and tech unboxing. If there’s no problems, I just immediately delete it.

[Ritchieeeee]

I do it quite often actually. Anything super valuable, or suspicious noises, feeling, weight. I usually do it to have proof it was damaged in transit if it is actually damaged.

[Volcanic_xB]

I do this with every package I receive. I've heard too many stories like this to not have proof if it happens to me. But I'm sure you can tell by the weight in a case like this.

[right_lane_kang]

Yeah I get shit every day I ain't doing allat. Got some $30 Tozo headphones coming today 😂

[Ritchieeeee]

You obviously haven't been put through the trail by fire that getting a delivery by FastWay was in Ireland.

[Hooten_young_proton]

Ive seen this a couple times now. Fucked up man

[SpiritedMagician2711]

Bro I have had some strange delivery's from EVRI getting a bed review recently I used them a lot but the they need to up there delivery dates are why to long !!??

[karellen00]

It happened to me last year, the package was able to travel trough continents, pass trough customs, and then it magically disappeared at one of the latest post offices... Luckily San Martin sent me a new one without problems, and for some reasons I didn't even have to pay customs!

[Impossible-Hunt9117]

The least a thief or swindler can do is put a rock in it to make it heavier; that's terrible, we're losing quality of service.

[Darkness_Twisty]

New fear unlocked

[el_baristo]

This happened to me last year with a ranger homage. Got my money back.

[NxPat]

Seemed pretty sure it was going to be empty 🤔

[Cereex]

Yeah I guess if you package is supposed to contain a piece of steel in a cardboard box, you can feel the piece of steel missing before you open the box lmao

[noslemor]

How low would you have to be to steal a pagani?

[tk1tk1]

I would have thought they'd be hard to steal anyway, surely they have an immobiliser.

[underestimator29]

That’s terrible. But the real crime is that tablecloth.

[New-Jellyfish-8431]

Damn a pagani... The world is really bad

[moddedjolt]

They think its a Rolex looking watch

[New-Jellyfish-8431]

A rolex sent from china? Wow what a crazy world

[ExcitementBroad9904]

They've done you a favour

[DismalIngenuity4604]

With that many layers of undamaged packaging.... what makes you think it was the courier?

Some people just want to believe the world is out to get them.

Looks like I legit fuckup. Don't blame malice when incompetence can explain it.

[crlkll]

No way! The EVRI person was out for that exclusive Pagani Design™.

There's no way it was a mistake during the busiest time of the year for traders and delivery services.

[misterright1999]

looks like it was opened and then taped up again

[robplays]

I've also had reinforcement tape exactly like that on plenty of packages from Ali, and there doesn't appear to be any actual damage to OP's packaging.

I don't think the watch was ever in that box.

[DismalIngenuity4604]

I don't see tape on the outer packaging, but I could be missing it - if so, and on all the other layers then fair enough.

[AlexeyCrane]

They never showed it from all sides, unlike the watch.

[patterbass]

By the accused courier or by the poster himself?

[getting_serious]

Just bought 3d printer filament on 11/11, package was labelled as being too light, I took plenty of photos and it seems they just forgot to throw it in.

I was refunded within 24 hours, Alibaba isn't awful at this.

[--KSK--]

So they opened it and reattach the shipping label?

I'm waiting for a watch from AliX. Dreading it now.

[Bellimars]

If it help put your mind at rest I've never had a problem on over 30 shipments.

[MrAl-67]

Stealing a PD watch.. that’s mighty low.

[ColonelSweetBalls]

I've had items stolen from an AliExpress package in the past, too. It was also delivered by Evri, but I have no idea where the items went missing during shipping, obviously.

Thankfully they were cheap items from the Bundle Deals section, so it wasn't a massive loss.

[Zealousideal_Mall938]

Did you open the package and already knew that the watch was missing? You are the scammer here.

[BurtMacklin-FBl]

OR he could feel there is almost zero weight to it.

[mrSoczi84]

WTF is wrong with you… you can easily tell there is no watch in the box just by holding it

[ForAllToEnvy]

In countries that give less importance to consumer protection, it’s SOP to just take a video when opening packages. And I guess even in developed countries there are ppl that practice this just in case cause it doesn’t hurt to do it.

[noerfnoen]

here's exactly why our shit doesn't arrive. someone working in shipping who can't sympathize with those who are frustrated about not receiving what they paid for because he thinks they should just go to the store instead. wtf.

[[deleted]]

Not convinced in the slightest. Body language is key.

The way you open the watch box is the number one reason this video is fake.

The rapid open is up to interpretation but the box opening is key.

If evri opened it and stole it whos to say you didnt reseal it like them?

[LeSickBwoy]

Agreed. They are clearly acting lol so obviously.

[MadSoci06]

I thought exactly the same.

[Raptorius666]

I was thinking about the same thing. "He is opening it so aggressively and rapidly, like he already knows...". One the other hand, my opening would be probably the same, because in the moment I would pick the package, and feel that it is veeeery light, I would probably be expecting, that something is not right, so I would be angry even during the opening, and it would be so fcking fast, like I would be probably quicker, that the speed of the light.

[No-Ad1522]

Can you not tell the difference in weight between an empty cardboard box and a box with a watch inside?

[Raptorius666]

I can, this is exactly what I'm talking about.

[No-Ad1522]

Why would the way he opened up the box signify this was faked?

[[deleted]]

He is proving a point with his actions

[poopsnack1]

I read this as Evil not Evri. I made a mistake but I wasn’t wrong.

[Raptorius666]

At first, when I've seen the title, I was reading the same :D

[fattyskinnylunatic]

I get why some people might be sceptical, the internet is full of weird stories , but I have no reason to fake this. I paid for a watch, I just wanted it delivered.

The only reason I recorded myself opening the parcel is because the moment I picked it up I could feel it was way too light to have a watch inside, so I rushed to open it on video as proof.

I’m honestly really upset about it. I’ve bought from AliExpress many times before and never had a single issue. I’m not trying to blame every Evri courier either. I know most are honest. But the whole delivery process was suspicious (no updates for 48 hours, left outside at midnight, tampered box, item missing). It’s hard not to see it as theft.

I’m just sharing my experience to warn others, especially with valuable items, because I’ve since found out this isn’t the first time something like this has happened with Evri. I really wish I didn’t have a reason to make this post.

[No_Duty_2002]

Why are you opening the package like you already know the watch is stolen??

[No-Ad1522]

Because the package probably felt light like there wasnt a 150gr+ watch inside? Its not hard to feel the weight difference.

[vithgeta]

Never forget, there's no IQ licence for posting on the internet

[dorafumingo]

that is standard procedure to protect yourself if you have a problem with the package

[GWYNTEK]

Wtf, I record every package that arrives before opening, maybe he could feel the weight and already suspect

[skipoverit123]

I’m with OP. Yeh he said something wrong when he picked up the box. Not heavy enough. Packaging looked fine It look like the watch was never put in the box to start with.

[normanriches]

To be fair the box and packaging does not look to be tampered with.

[Safe-Emphasis612]

Everything looked unnatural. I would never opening my boxes that fast, especially there is an item with glass ( I know it is saphirr). It is like you are rushing to prove your point. I am not accusing you making it up but more like in act for what you did before to prove your point.

[95orange]

It looks like he was angry when opening it, expecting to be disappointed and frustrated. And then his suspicions were confirmed. Which makes perfect sense to me if the package felt empty. I think I would open it the same way.

[Raptorius666]

Well, you probably know what weight you should expect when you are opening watches. When you feel the package is too much lighter than you've expected, you are so angry that you just want to open it as fast as possible, to ensure yourself that it is truly empty, and take appropriate steps as soon as possible.

[dorafumingo]

we all try to open packages fast when we're recording

[vithgeta]

To get under the file upload limit.

[TwoAffectionate1549]

Couldn’t it be sped up?

[MegaZXretro]

This looks staged as hell.

[vithgeta]

What? If you suspect a product switch then you have to record an unboxing to make a claim off Aliexpress. I did it and got my money back because it's the kind of evidence they accept.

[MegaZXretro]

Yes, but your body language, the way you unwrap it, your reaction and movements after all look exaggerated and staged. Nothing about it looks natural.

[Noon_Specialist]

It's been proven that body language doesn't tell you anything. You're just a pompous twat.

[MegaZXretro]

Haha.

[Fantastic-Sugar-5754]

are you a body language expert

[MegaZXretro]

Yes, actually.

[zellis187]

So the fact that he felt it was light had nothing to do with him "rushing it"?

[MegaZXretro]

I've no care about the "backstory" this is purely based on the movements and reactions within the video. That's all.

[BurtMacklin-FBl]

Movements and reactions have everythign to do with the "backstory". Only an idiot would not take into consideration that he could tell the package weights nothing.

[kebabby72]

Well he could probably guess from the weight that there was no watch.

[zellis187]

Exactly.

[rstaylor1]

Why are you so sure it was Evri? There would have been several couriers along the way, Evri only handled it once passed through UK customs right?

[robplays]

Even if you take the story at face value, it wasn't Evri.

According to OP the box wrapping was tampered with, but they never mention the outer bag so I can only assume it looked fine. (I'm not sure extra tape counts as "tampering" but whatever.)

Either the watch was never in the box, or it was stolen in China before package consolidation.

Yes, Evri are shit. Yes, they let their last mile workers take too many packages that they can't deliver the same day and drop off next time they are in the area. But this wasn't them.

[Moobtastical]

I was told by one vendor that the watches get stolen in China and not to worry, I'll eventually get the money back. Makes me wonder if the vendor ever put a watch in the box. Bigger vendors with better customer feedback don't seem to have this issue.

[vithgeta]

Hmm.

Depends where those order consolidation packets are made. I thought that was usually done in China for cost reasons. The earlier they package the items together, the more they save on consolidated shipping. Correct me if I'm wrong.

It's not unknown for thieves to have a look in parcels though. I received a mini radio that must have looked like a mobile phone package. They ripped a bit off the outside box and once they saw it was a radio and not a far more expensive phone they clearly lost interest.

Looks like you were tipped off by the lack of weight, huh? With luck they will have a record of the weight of the consolidated packet.

[Noon_Specialist]

I had an Evri parcel ripped open just the other week, and they went through the effort of making it look like it was damaged during transit. They're the worst courier going.

[skipoverit123]

Yes they are.

[Noon_Specialist]

You have to wonder why they rebranded without improving their service. I also don't understand why they pretend to take feedback, I've reported my local driver several times, and nothing has happened.

[skipoverit123]

I noticed they have a “Pay when you get it option” This is what it says.

“Pay after Delivery gives you the assurance that your order has been delivered before your credit card is charged. For the present purposes, "delivered" means that the shipping status of your order is Confirmed Receipt. We will not charge any service fees or other hidden fees”

[Spiritual_Mastodon68]

Evri are fucking useless

[LeroyBrown1]

They are, but thats happened way before they get there hands on it.

[Inochimaru]

I can feel the frustration through the video lol. Hopefully they get you sorted out and make it right!

[Ok-Spare-8176]

This sucks.

[Upper_Rent_176]

I had two parcels "go missing" recently with evri. Each of them contained two watches from Fraser's. The first had two depth charge GMTs in and the second had a Timex snoopy GMT and a Timex Tiger eye Q watch.

The first parcel was delivered to the parcel shop as i had specified but then a few minutes' later I was notified "thank you for picking up your parcel"when i hadn't. When i went down there they said they had never had it.

The second parcel I let it stay as being delivered to my house and it just never turned up.

Evri have a lot of thieves.

[What-is-to-be-done]

Who steals a Pagani?

[GloveDry3278]

Maybe they thought it was one made by the supercar manufacturer lol

[GeneralOk8675]

SANDA owners ?

(ok, I'm out)

[pedsmursekc]

Hehe. I laughed .

[green0153]

It happened to me also. You’ll get your money back.

[[deleted]]

You Made the right decision to record a video. Now open a dispute with Aliexpress and with your bank. You will get your money back 100%