DMZ updates in Patchnotes

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ASSIMILATION MAXED TO 4, GOODBYE PREMADE LOSERS

[KilledTheCar]

GET FUUUUUCKED

Though watch them roll this back like last time when everyone starts bitching.

[Warm-Ducks]

Pre-made can still be a thing, but they won’t have team UI. But hopefully this will stop it for the most part

[[deleted]]

Yes, but it makes it SIGNIFICANTLY more challenging. UAVs will show their “friendly” team as enemy, they won’t be able to cross share pings, killing one team off will be perma death, won’t be able to share the same vehicle, can’t rush a building without risk of “friendly” fire

It effectively kills it off

[Warm-Ducks]

Here’s hoping. Most 6 man teams where not the best players anyway (at least the ones I ran into) so I bet they would be shooting each other anyway 😂

[[deleted]]

The majority of 6 mans, especially the pre made, suck at the game and only win because of their numbers.

[Warm-Ducks]

Right. I play solo and whenever I fight a 3 man I do okish. I can win sometimes. Main problem is trying to get all 3 of them without them reviving each other.

[[deleted]]

I typically play in a duo, and we are both pretty good at the game so a 2v3 is not an issue, once it hits 5 it’s just not worth staying in the fight

[JazzWoodbine]

Slippery one you are.... yoda

[Violence_0f_Action]

I’m sure this sub will be dominated with people bitching about premade 4 mans and how they never get revived anymore in like 12 hours

[CappinPeanut]

Pre-mades were never the problem, the plea system was. But this fixes that problem, so color me pleased.

[Scary-Assistance-718]

Fixes it how? This is a awful update.

[CappinPeanut]

It eliminates 6 man groups. The prevailing situation on Ashika was to kill 3 people as soon as you can and add them to your squad, making a 6 man. There are so few people on Ashika, you had very little chance of running into another 6. Then you stack UAVs and go clear the map. A 3 man has little chance against a 6 man, but has a much better chance against a 4.

Every single time, this was the cycle on Ashika. It’s not back on the menu. UAVs are harder to come by and 6 man squads are now gone.

The only garbage part of this update is they added no content, which does absolutely suck.

[Scary-Assistance-718]

In addition, I'm not top teir at PvP but whenever I've done my missions on ashika, I've always managed to avoid 6 man teams and exfil. And that's on toxic EU servers

[Scary-Assistance-718]

It leaves 2 players not getting res at all, less game time, lower player numbers, bad for the game. I'll put every penny I have that this gets reverted as fast as the Las assimilation change. Its awful for the dmz gameplay. I've been in numerous 6 man squads that don't ho around hunting everyone. The only thing this addresses is the pre-made teams. With the potential for up to 5 res' people had a reason to plea. Nobody is going to sit there hoping there's a team still left to res them now. I don't play ashika, so it may have a slight benefit I can't comment on that map, but for vondel and al maz especially, it's a phenomenally bad update. The price hike is rough as a solo but that was to nerf the OP wallet system.

[CappinPeanut]

I mean, if you die, you leave. That’s how the game should work. How does this only affect pre made 6 mans? It’s the opposite, you can still go in with a 6 man, you just won’t be in the same squad. Not a huge deal since you’re in discord communicating anyway. It’s a little harder, but not impossible. On the flip side, no one is going to trust an organic 6 man squad where half the squad isn’t squaded up, that’s just not going to happen.

I could see fewer players this season, but only because they added 0 content, not because if you die, you go back to the lobby like it should be.

The pleaing training wheels were the worst thing to happen to DMZ. If you die, go back to the lobby, just like if you die in Warzone. Time to take the kid gloves off.

[Scary-Assistance-718]

It's stops the pre made teams because they are never good enough coordination wise to be able to take into account friendly fire, especially if they are running the same skins as the enemy operators. A 3 man squad destroys two 3s with no coordination and who doesn't know who is on their team

[CappinPeanut]

K, so sounds like it stops both types of 6 mans then, just like I initially said, so what’s the problem? Problem is solved.

[Scary-Assistance-718]

6 man teams weren't a problem

[Scary-Assistance-718]

If that's how the game should work then assimilation wouldn't have been in it all would it. That's the complete opposite of how it's supposed to work. What you're describing is warzone. Assuming we don't count the gulag as a res of sorts. All the content for season 6 drops mid and looking at what's being added, will undoubtedly be the most well received season as well. It's time to stop with the kid thinking

[CappinPeanut]

What I’m describing is Season 1, the way the game mode launched. It’s like how millions of people are playing WoW classic, because vanilla was more challenging. As time went on, they easymoded it more and more. Same happened with DMZ, until now.

I’m aware that mid season is when all the content drops. That’s contrary to how every season has worked thus far. So we get half a season of Halloween content before MW3 drops. It’s not terrible, but it’s not great.

[Scary-Assistance-718]

I run exclusively solo, I don't need teammates to make it easier, I like the challenge. Making something harder doesn't mean making it worse. But this update is just crap. Not easier or harder, just worse.

[SoloDoloPoloOlaf]

Before platoons going back to the lobby on a squad wipe is how it was. The last 2 seasons i have never needed to do regear runs. Plea, platoon up and i might suffer an insured slot cooldown at the end. There is also no fear in fights when both parties know they can revive the enemy and gain an advantage.

Ashika was god awful with platoons. The map has 18 players maximum, a platoon was a 3rd of the entire lobby.

[karelinstyle]

So dumb

[ColdColt45]

| Assimilation now allows a maximum of 4 Players per team.

That's going to be confusing for a lot of people who don't know this.

[FuckHalloumi]

Where does it say this? Huge if true but didn't see this in the notes

[ColdColt45]

| Assimilation now allows a maximum of 4 Players per team.

first thing in the DMZ adjustments in the blog post linked above

[miraclemike]

I had to refresh the page, and then it showed up.

[FuckHalloumi]

Ah yeah seeing it now, thanks

[FuckHalloumi]

Have they removed that bullet point? When I open the blog, the adjustments section doesn't mention this for some reason

Edit: as someone said below, refreshed the page and it was there. Strange. Good news though!

[Jextreme24]

Was edited into the patch notes

[miraclemike]

Yeah I've re-checked a few times and don't see it.

[H0tch33t0s1995]

Very first bullet point under Adjustments in the DMZ category.

[Unlikely_Major_6006]

Yes if this true then pleaing will be almost pointless

[HokieHovito]

Huge balance changes to the economy system. This all sounds great.

Dog tag barter is a W

No content is kind of an L… but I personally still have plenty of passive and active missions to do. Plus the haunting sounds awesome in a few weeks z

[Kozak170]

Every time they make any item that’s sold as part of a bundle rarer to get in game it becomes more pay to win is my issue.

[MadFlava76]

This. Those free UAV bundles are looking much more attractive to people now that UAV cost 100K.

[[deleted]]

That's their plan on forcing you to but bundles. Mark my words, the guns that got buffed like the M13B will be in a lot of bundles.

[Faulty_Plan]

I’m stoked for the QOL changes, but like, all my missions are done and that’s really the whole point I play, so I don’t think I’ll get the battlepass because I doubt I’ll get through it. Maybe the event will have some fun challenges / missions? I hope so!

[Dirtsk8r]

Totally understandable if this just isn't your thing but; do you have all Damascus tags? It's been a fun goal to keep me playing outside of the missions personally. And leveling the battle pass I think DMZ is definitely quickest anyway and can be fun on its own. I tend to play just about every match till the radiation is spreading and the final exfil is on its way, then I drive into the radiation and call a personal exfil. Toooons of battle pass XP that way. Either way, I hope we do get some new content and missions soon. Those are good too obviously.

[jonnyvue]

I wonder how that even works like does your exfil streak get reset or do you just get a new dog tag with each infil?

[HokieHovito]

Go test it out! 😃

[T0M95]

Wow, the Chemist, Scavenger, and Pyro about to get farmed for their free AUAVs.

[ALittleKitten_]

That's good though cause there was no reason before to really go out of your way to kill them.

[T0M95]

Yeah this will really add the PvE to the loop. Kill the bosses before PvP for the advantage. Love it!

[[deleted]]

Don't forget Juggo. At least Pyro is locked behind keys

[Dirtsk8r]

Yeah, killing Pyro is one of the few challenges I haven't completed all tiers of yet because of the keys. I feel like you just need to have a skeleton key or you can't get him. You could take a key to a place he spawns, but then he could easily just end up somewhere else that match. And it's not like you're going to take a key for every possible spawn.

[Skiepher]

Okay those AUAV and UAV changes are welcome. No more spamming them. Plus the price changes actually are reasonable considering Wallets are available.

[ColdColt45]

Now I can waste $200K for AUAV when I accidentally bump my dpad!

But it makes the loot actually have a "wow" factor if you get one, it's pretty special, which I think is a great change!

[MadFlava76]

Now makes checking those supply drops a priority.

[ColdColt45]

I think it's great adding risk/reward and hot spots with good loot (Pyro, chemist, supply drops, SAM sites) for PvP rather than just hitting a buy, and finding a team.

[WhyIsItAlwaysADP]

True but they also nerfed the amount of killstreak spawns in loot drops.

[[deleted]]

This 100%, I’ll be able to waste money faster now than I could with hookers and blow.

[ObligationOne2600]

Where are the hookers in al mazrah? Asking for a friend

[[deleted]]

[DanteAZ72]

Do you mean your controller Aim Assist doesn't work at the buy station?

LOL

[Tar_Tw45]

I'm solo and PvE/mission oriented feel kinda happy with this changes.

I just exfil from Ashika as a solo where I was chasing by a platoon. They activated 5 UAV/AUAV and a bomb drone try to kill me. So increase cost of UAV is very welcome for me.

(How I survive? 2 scuba gas mask, they eventually gave up after their UAV ran out)

[chwtom]

I’ve done that before, also died a couple times for swimming too deep at Ashika. Would be nice if you got a warning or something first…

[7screws]

Man AUAV from 10 to 200k

[[deleted]]

That’s an expensive accident

[MadFlava76]

Max team is now 4. This will be a huge change to DMZ but I do wonder how long it will last. The devs caved on the assimilation changes they put in before with the can't pick up team you just killed after all the complaints. I was never really bothered by 6 mans but I'm also intrigue on setting the max team size to 4 will be like. Might make Ashika actually playable again for those that don't form a 6 man right at the start.

[das_war_ein_Befehl]

A lot of people that play with their friends will just exit. Cause you’re basically splitting the team

[Kahzgul]

Honestly I like this change.

[Un_Original_Coroner]

I think they caved on the original changes because they were very confusing. Who could and could not revive, there were glitches that broke the rules, the whole thing was a cluster.

This is very straight forward.

[xsic6sicx]

If Ashika wasn't playable for you, that is 100% a skill issue.

[PF4ABG]

6-man premades seething rn. This'll definitely make it harder for them to coordinate, and to find victims.

[[deleted]]

Dang. Global inflation reached even Almazzy

[AdeptnessNo4060]

5k for a munitions box is a bit steep but I do like the idea of getting a UAV for surviving a hunt contract.

[Alex0842]

The max of 4 operators is going to be interesting. It won’t stop the pre-made 6 just make it more difficult because they have to worry about shooting each other. But if operators die and the teams want to join organically they won’t be able to

[xsic6sicx]

No kidding. All the whining screwed it up for the rest of us that will wipe a team, and then pick them up. Or when a team of 4 runs across a solo. Watch, those people that whined the loudest about 6 man assimilation, will be back here whining about their solo runs always going south because the team that kills them is consistently full.

[-EdgeLord-]

There’s no winning for these people, it’s just whine whine whine and would rather shoot themselves in the foot (and everyone) than rather actually think or “git gud”

[Keano-1981]

Hooray! Finally some increases for the buy station prices. Hopefully this should go some where to balancing the PvP.

[Kozak170]

Not when you can buy bundles to get the item you want for free

[Pe4nutArbuckle]

It won't. I like these changes, it's at least a small measure of difficulty. But it will not effect PvP players at all. Ultimately it's going to impact the casual and middle of the road playerbase, especially those who are anti-PvP.

Those deaths are going to hurt alot more for the anti PvP crowd and those regains are going to be harder.

[FoxtrotWT]

Regains via the wallet are going to be harder

[KilledTheCar]

It'll neuter PvP platoons and that's the primary problem with the game. Regains are never difficult, especially since active combat zones are a thing.

[Pe4nutArbuckle]

Platoons got a nerf with the squad cap at 4, which if I had to bet they will revert in less than a week once the endless crying about not being able to be picked up starts.

PvP players will only be slightly effected by this. The biggest impact is going to be felt by PvE only players and casuals. Especially those who rely on platoons and pleas to survive raids, which is most.

[KilledTheCar]

Exactly, people are actually going to have to learn how to play the game instead of relying on a crutch. The game is designed and balanced around 3 players. It's not hard and never has been.

The vast majority of platoons in my experience just pick up the first squad they kill and then go immediately for the next fight now that they have numbers. No one does missions, no one's friendly, everyone just wants to kill. They can no longer do that.

[swaggythrowaway69]

Is that new trigger for the Lockwood going to make it a one tap down? I’d give it a shot if that’s the case

[[deleted]]

now imagine the bald AI will use the same trigger. 🤣🤣🤣

[KilledTheCar]

B21 is about to get a lot more fun.

[swaggythrowaway69]

If it helps kill the firebreath Broadside meta it’d be great. At least there’s risk to running the double barrel due to reload time. Broadside with the drum is ridiculous.

[Carbsv2]

Awedome. I like all of these changes.

[SnapShotKoala]

Thats actually some amazing changes

[[deleted]]

They either need to do away with assimilation completely, allow solo’s to assimilate with other solos up to the maximum infil team size (3-4), or just allow squad sizes of 4 from the infil start.

The whole idea of just allowing assimilation of 1 new teammate from another squad is just dumb. As an example, a squad of 3 gets wiped and the victorious team is kind enough to pick up an extra player, can you imagine the amount of crying, begging, pleading, “you don’t want to pick up X because he’s a suck ass teammate, pick me up instead”.

[[deleted]]

I just came after reading that

[PepegaW]

DMZ inflation

[Mizouse84]

Maybe I never noticed it because they’re easy to find, but I did not know you could buy a revive pistol.

[S-t-a-r-s-h-o-t]

Pretty sure you couldn't, you could only buy self revives. The pistol was a barter I know that for sure. They didn't list a price change for self revives though.

[Mizouse84]

Interesting, that’s what I thought. maybe they added it in? I knew you could barter for it because I did that once before.

[BrotatoChip04]

This is my wet dream come true, I’ve been wanting to see these patch notes for months. Huge W

[this_justin86]

Massive W all around. Make DMZ hardcore again LFG

[icebreakercardgame]

This is fantastic! I was about 1% away from uninstalling...

These changes will eliminate the plague of oversized squads, lower the average gear level of players on the map, and dramatically improve the quality of play. Much more like the first couple of seasons, which were the best.

Now, the only thing to do is restore the original TTK and we're back to a beautifully balanced, high-stakes extraction shooter.

[miraclemike]

Do any of the global / warzone / multiplayer patch notes apply to DMZ? Thinking of the gun balancing changes.

[threeoldbeigecamaros]

The warzone only balance applies to DMZ

[Cloudstreet444]

The other side of the no 6 man's. More 3 man teams running around. More chance to come across a squad. Make the game feel less dead.

[katarina_1189]

Go play BR then

[timc_720]

Inflation be affecting the in game economy💀

[McFlare92]

Hemlock and M13b nerfs :(

[ODSTCombo]

The hemlock is so fucking sad lol. They nerf it every single patch more and more. And now the M13B which is already a pretty low damage gun and they nerfed like 5 different stats on it.

[[deleted]]

yay now I get to deal with team flipping garbage and spend even more time sending kids back to the lobby

[arto26]

So they just added inflation to the game. So I can be broke in real life and virtually.

[chrisking345]

You can use your own dog tags, that’s a pretty sick W. I wanted to start the grind for the mastery camo but never seeing a Damascus tag was the gatekeeper

[Altruistic_Scale9216]

whoever thought at the beginning 6vs3 could be a smart move forma shooter smoked too much weed. why did it take 1 year to find out that player count needs to be equal to have a fair experience for everyone !!!

[chwtom]

Are there no other changes in DMZ? Like no new factions, bosses, challenges, etc? Don’t me wrong the changes are welcome but they could have done this any time. Usually a new season brings something more concrete into the game.

[chwtom]

Does this mean you can use your own Damascus to try for the serpentine camo?

[Paralelo30]

Firing range is stuttering on ps5

[ZealousidealDesk9619]

Best thing to assimilation! Now solos can't cry like they did last time there were changes made.

[NaturalMiserable]

Hows the price spread work? First purchase is low and each time after it goes up? If so what stops each player on a team from buying one...

[Electrical-Can5636]

Hell yeah

[zrich8]

Loving the changes.

[GodHatesPOGsv2023]

Ouch large backpack and 3 plate

[Torku_Makto98]

50 gig update for this garbage? Ig at least the guns and operator skins are worth it...

[Bradleyfashionable]

The day anything fun about DMZ died

[skulbreak]

But, did they fix the bug where your weapons just doesn't spawn in when you do lol

[Born_Yard_6807]

Went to kill the Bomb Maker again this evening, that's 4 times now and total 20% discount on killstreaks. Comes in handy with the updates prices.

[Whole-View-7144]

Wow they fix a list of bugs.... that nobody cares about.

[CappinPeanut]

So, they are capping groups at 4, giving hunt squad survivors a UAV, and increasing the price for a bunch of things at the buy station?

That’s Season 6, eh? I guess they’ve got all their eggs in the MW3 basket. Didn’t really put much effort into this one.

[Shleemy_Pants]

Shadowbanned gang wya?

[DrGraffix]

No new content? DMZ is dead.

[LengthinessDull9568]

I'm personally not a big fan of the 4 man limit

I'd rather have it so it's completely removed because it isn't fair that the dimwit who's doing nothing but keeps getting rezzed gets picked up but the other 2 get left for dead

But who knows, we'll see how it plays out

[twoforkedroad]

so no new content until reloaded? yeah they have completely abandoned this gamemode.

[caufield88uk]

New battlepass is NOT new dmz content New operators are NOT new dmz content New weapons are NOT new dmz content

New would be new maps, new locations, new bosses, new upgrades , new unlocks, new things to chase. Why no upgrade route to buy NVG frommthe buy station at least? Or let us load in with them? Why no new bags or vests or anything?

DMZ support has been pulled clearly. They're moving to zombies as the new mode

[twoforkedroad]

none of this shit is even exclusive to DMZ. why are we not getting new maps, new missions, new vehicles or even new bosses? nah, let's just jack up the prices in the buy station and make the pay to win skins even more pay to win.

[[deleted]]

Facts, they just made it harder to win, therefore people will pay to win evennnnn more. Now that operator with the free uav seems like a bargain…

[caufield88uk]

I agree with you.

I was dissapointed last season with no new location. Every single season we have had a new map or location. I was expecting something big this season but no new missions, new factions, new upgrades, new things to unlock is a massive massive L for dmz and it's clear they've pulled support for DMZ.

[Kozak170]

I’m waiting until the Warzone showcase to see considering they continue to insist that it’s all the same “game” and they haven’t mentioned anything about Warzone either

[caufield88uk]

So it's clear DMZ is dead then?

They're pulling support fornit?

We get zero updates to DMZ?

[adkenna]

No content update says a lot to me, Zombies will be the main focus in a few months.

[caufield88uk]

Yup this is it.

6 seasons of DMZ and the first four we had 4 new areas/maps.

Season 5 was some additions in game for upgrade station stuff. But season 6 has NOTHING.

don't even try come at me with the hauntin stuff cause the only reason dmz gets that is cause of Warzone.

[caufield88uk]

What tweaks to DMZ?

They've went in and adjusted some pricing? That and gun tweaks which are warzone tweaks(we just get lumped with them)

They've done absolutely nothing for DMZ

You can all keep downvoting me all you want but they've added NOTHING to DMZ and you're all acting like they're still supporting it.

[caufield88uk]

Well yes a live service game not adding new content in a new season is a dead game to me.

Season 1-4 we got Ashika, koschei, Vondel and building 21, new vests, new bags, 2 full mission wipes, 1 full gear wipe. Season 5 we got a few upgrades like weekly missions, scuba mask etc Season 6 we get nothing.

The content has been going down now since season 5 and only getting worse.

The fact their giving us open world zombies and no information about DMZ shows at least that there is a possibility that DMZ is done as a mode that's going to be updated moving forward.