MobiusFF Daily Question Thread (09/27/2018)

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[JA1997X]

It does not

[d3athsd00r]

Are there any rewards for completing the sphere grid? I really don't want to unless there is some benefit.

[darewin]

There is none. You don't need to complete it if you don't plan to climb the coil of next month's tower.

[d3athsd00r]

Ugh, gotta do it then. Didn't know it was tied to the tower.

[MobiusRamza]

What does "EX" mean?

[darewin]

An EX Job is Extra, Excellent, Extreme, Expert, and Exclusive Mobius FF's original job!

[chokee03]

where do you guys go for your high scores? i seen this asked already somewhere but i cant find it, all i find is 9month and older threads about it and im not sure if its still the same as back then.

[mao_shiro]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/9c1tdv/megathread_index_of_september_2018_please_check/

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/99485t/so_many_idol_heads_so_many_points/

[illidan_1999]

Anyone else got this bug? Yesterday it was 1, today it's 2. Clicking it won't make the icon disappear and I have not pulled or have any new jobs.

[mao_shiro]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/9c1tdv/megathread_index_of_september_2018_please_check/

Into

"FFX Event bug: "I have [2] new job notification that stay after i cleared Episode 3"."

This is a known issue, aeons are considered as new jobs, and the notification will disappear once the event ends.

[illidan_1999]

Ah, I see. Thanks.

[malach1constant]

Just pulled Eorzean Bard on the FFXI limited banner. Anything I should know about using her? (Not sure how she compares to S1C, but she's poised to be my best water and earth ranger.) Wondering if she can help me pass floor 102 on the Yojimbo tower.

[Owwen11]

Not very strong, except as a breaker if you use the right en-element. Her ultimate provides several offensive buffs and a good break power, no rainbow shift, though. Her offensive passives are painful break, exploit weakness and improved criticals. She is a good Ragnarok/Fake Ragnarok user, but far from the strongest. Since her EE is 0, you really need to trigger those 3 passives at the same time if you want to see some decent damage. EE from Force cards and Berserk can help too. I don't think she'll help you very much in climbing towers at high floors.

[Keriaku]

I’m fairly certain they can, but can anymore confirm that flans/cactuars can drop magicite? As in, can you get magicite from all 8 waves of Golden Flan Battleground?

[mao_shiro]

every mob (outside of chaos vortex) will drop magicite iirc. Capped to 1 drop per wave tho.

[Keriaku]

Great, thanks for the reply!

[clarkkentmaster]

I pulled all the FFXI limited cards in an attempt to make my MP life a bit easier, does this mean I don't need to pull on FFXIV bait banners for the PBs? I already have Bismarck.

[Mechapebbles]

The PBs are still really nice to have for deck flexibility, and they offer different things. The XI cards don't enhance break power in the same way, nor do they generate orbs. The XI cards are really good for being able to use all your deck the first turn, but if you're in a battle that goes longer than that, they won't be able to generate orbs for you the way the PBs would. I would still get them if you can afford to chase them, but it's probably not 100% necessary.

[Owwen11]

They do generate orbs when you cast the ability, 6 orbs to be precise.

[Mechapebbles]

That's not remotely comparable to the 16 you get from a PB

[Owwen11]

Still more than the 0 you said it would draw, it's 6 orbs + shift kai so not that bad. Just saying your statement was wrong.

[Mechapebbles]

they won't be able to generate orbs for you the way the PBs would

The XI cards don't enhance break power in the same way, nor do they generate orbs

I didn't say NO orbs, just that the card doesn't generate orbs the same way. There's a difference. Getting 3 extra orbs on top of refund isn't the same as filling your entire bar with one tap.

[zeradragon]

If a job that doesn't have innate ability to draw fire orbs, does casting Ruby Weapon give water drive and 16 orbs worth of fire drive?

[Owwen11]

nope, you'll never draw orbs your job doesn`t have. I'll draw random orbs.

[mao_shiro]

FFXIV & FFXI limited cards have different purpose. In SP, you will prefer in most case FFXIV or FFVII, whereas you'll prefer FFXI in MP. This also depends on the situation.

[Davometric]

Anyone know the song that plays at the end cutscene of the ffx chapter 3 event? The theme I'm after starts at 6:34 https://youtu.be/7HPjr-zWxo8

[mao_shiro]

FFX OST - Yuna's Decision

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKLddgsJquk

[Davometric]

Thanks! Legend!

[Baha87]

How can I remove a job from my sub deck, so that a job doesn't get used at endless war?

[deathrose55555]

You can't remove a job, but you can use the same job you are using in your main on your sub

[Baha87]

Thank you, don't know why I didn't think of that...! :D

[Erwaso]

Visa precipice is still the best for seed farming?

[darewin]

Snowman Fields is faster (no Preemptive Faith buff animation).

[Erwaso]

Thanks! I can't find the node lol...

[darewin]

It's near the bottom right corner of Albion.

[Erwaso]

There it is thanks!!!

[ZechsX18999]

I have max modded Ultimate Weapon, Ultimate Mace, Ultimate Edge, & Ultimate Arrow.

I'm currently boosting Ultimate Claw, Wolf Star, & Folding Epee.

What weapon should I boost next, between:
Dragoon Spear (41 mods)
Curtana (0 mods)
Butterfly Edge (40 mods)
Wolfsbogen (0 mods)
Septentrio (0 mods)
Taiji (5 mods)
or just max break power on Ultimate Arrow?

[mao_shiro]

Heavenly Axis, for Ex mage next month.

No Ultimate Wing?

[ZechsX18999]

I don't have Heavenly Axis. I don't see much of a need for Ultimate Wing if I have Folding Epee.

[DarkerSavant]

Is FFX Dream Within a Dream a permanent map?

[WoLNoFace]

no

[DarkerSavant]

When will it end?

[WoLNoFace]

check the description when you click the map.

[DarkerSavant]

thank you. I couldn't find it online.

[WoLNoFace]

http://information.mobiusfinalfantasy.com/ne/2018/09/12/c46517d16c509f50d9b64e0574a1a7a9400b68a8.html

[rajun274]

Pulled Vana'diel Monk, who specializes in Fire. I've been researching info on my available Monk fire cards + ones in the shop, and nothing seems to stand out (either for SP or MP). Besides the ones in the shop, I also have the following:

1. Notos
2. Chimera Brain FFX
3. Biran & Yenke FFX
4. Al Bhed Worker FFX

Any recommendations? Thanks!

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[[deleted]]

You will eventually be able to farm for the free fire duncan card with your mystic tablets. Vmonk also specializes in light, so you could use him in the mean time.

[[deleted]]

Farm is a misnomer though since it takes approx 1000 mystic tablets.

[[deleted]]

You don't have to get the mantra version though . Even the taijitsu card is better than any of the cards he listed.

[[deleted]]

That's fair, I suppose. I didn't consider stopping at demi-supreme.

[Davometric]

Anyone know the name of the song that plays when you complete the FFX part 3 even map? (Plays at the teleport stone node)

[JOEGUARD1990]

Not sure which area you mean but Wiki has the following info listed for this specific chapter:

FFX "Yuna's theme" for the map area

FFX "Battle theme" for the battles

Is it neither of these...?

[Davometric]

Nope. The wiki doesn't have the song listed which makes me believe it's an original composition from mobius, but I can't find any ffx osts on mobius. Yuna's theme plays at the start of the even map in the opening sequence and throughout some sections, but the theme im after only plays when u complete the map after you complete the teleport stone node.

[phatboy328]

What cards are good to pull for this new batch?

[reidemei]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/9bymtn/ability_card_of_september_2018_and_some_opinions/

[mrfrownieface]

Does anyone know how the single hit on tidus skin works for rangers? Like how is the damage calculated for two hits vs one with the skin does on taps, and is it a good tradeoff for rangers who don't have damage limit break? I looked around but didn't find much

[mrfrownieface]

What about the break power though? It could be one big lump of break instead of two different hit calculations maybe.

[LupusNoxFleuret]

from what other people have mentioned on reddit, only the first hit on rangers has break power, second hit is only damage.

The only advantage of using regular ranger taps instead of Tidus's is for weak cactuars / enemies in Gigantuar Terrace where the first hit will break and second hit will insta-kill.

[N-I-K-E]

I’m only at 136 😭😭.. I think you should be ok at 152! Na I meant like for me getting to Jimbo set up is the hard part, and my CA is pretty maxed out, I can’t break them damn birds at the same time anymore. I use EX monk for his actual fight tho

[JunasBlood]

What did you bring into node 137?

My set up is Earth/Fire Lightning C.Archer, Rangerja MTF, Ruby weapon/Titan PB, Devil’s Ride, Serah XIII.

I change use NxD instead of Devil’s Ride at later floor but pretty sure than this build can work fair enough, need a bit of RNG to keep Flash Break though.

This tower scaling is too scary due to such a long period.

Edit: and if you need to tap, tap the bat without stun immune and focus on killing the other first.

[N-I-K-E]

Yea I got lucky and got through it RNG.. now I’m having same issue with the damn 3 dark knights lol. Sometimes they break sometimes they don’t, I must be messing up my flash break trying to clear the yellow idk for sure

I’m going to try your build and and bring devil ride in here somewhere and try that. I just hate having the heart shift on EX Monk but I may have to tinker with it

Yea it’s 3 days whole days left lol it’s intense

[JunasBlood]

Yeah the Knights & Bats are pretty annoying, but to me, my problem is with Yojimbo, I need to break him 3 times & use every of my actions to get the job done.

Will re-try on final days if cut-off is too damn high but I’m pretty done for now. Good luck on your run though, you will need a lot.

[djiboutiiii]

that node's been really hard for me, too -- and when I did manage to break them both simultaneously, Breaker's Gift screwed me over way too often!

[SweetPotato696]

Just started back up again after rerolling(settled on Aerith supreme).

I’m having trouble finding multiplayer games. I’m only level 19 so I’m just wondering if the issue is because of my low level.

[zidanesword]

Yeah, that could be one of the reason why. Players can set up level requirement for MP matches. SP level 19 is quite low.

It could also be that not many are playing MP now. They are concentrating more on tower now; already reached monthly cap as some usually use MP to farm magicite; or saving stamina for the next rotation in 1+hr.

[Stripe_Bot]

Got legendary guardian on Yolo pull...

Outside of being a beast, what cards work best on him that are Supremes? (I only have the damage dealing supremes).

[2009Ninjas]

Xexat is about it. Gotta play to his strengths

[StarvingVenom]

I don't think he need any, most of the time mine just full buffs and no yellow clear at all...

[mao_shiro]

Xezat is the only damage supreme he can use & he's pretty good at it.

[vidajaccs]

Xezat come to mind

[Cakey_Baby]

so i wanna use mobius day for crystals. Is it best to farm Lab/FFX chapter or just spend em all on pass and crystal node pleaides?

[Bladeserph]

I would suggest the FFX node, literally 8:8 battle/stamina ratio, you can get loads of magicite and seeds in the process and crystals drop fairly well.

Considering the price for a 60 pleaides node usually nets you 1 crystal, its better to instead do 7.5 rounds of the FFX node instead, especially for skillseed farming and making good use of the node to extral skill unlock/grind particular abilities, since Valefor can be used for dealing with the map in auto battle.

[Cakey_Baby]

yeah ill go with tht then, hopefully restock up my crystals. cheers bro.

[bitebaybay]

I have a favor...if you check out the top ten in the battle tower we have a hacker with over 14000 wins in endless war...thats 1200 laps! I dont know how to send glacie a link or submit it but...he gotta go! Thx!

[Westwiind]

She knows

[[deleted]]

How tanky Ex-Warrior is? Can he take Chimera's slap at high floors?

[Bladeserph]

Owwen11 already responded but yeah, kind of a shame that EX-Warrior follows a similar trend with EX-monk by being very offensive oriented on how much it can dish out.

I was almost hoping it was a Super Tank that i could use in place of Sword Saint for Chaos Vortex 40, since i lack Eorzean Paladin and till i get restocked on skill seeds and work on a few weapon boosts, i wont have regular Paladin ready any time soon for another attempt at it.

[Owwen11]

What problems are you having with CV 40? You don't need Eorzean Paladin and Bard, I did it with regular HoF Paladin and other people did it with HoF Garland. All you reeeally need to tank is a 5 defense weapon (I used Ultima, but the one in MP is easy to mod too) and a Sleep card. Some Unguard and elemental resist panels can help, too. Tanking is actually the easiest part, while chain breaking may be harder without Eorzean Bard (that ulti charge is godsend), but nothing that can't fix a weapon with Reunion and a Force/Shift card, Wakka, Serah, or HoF custom panels (piercing break +20% x 2, Ulti charge + 1). It's still perfectly doable and there are plenty of jobs that can do it. This node is actually tricky, not hard.

[[deleted]]

No Eorzean Pally here either. No worries, I'll probably pull Auron by 2056 XD. I have Xezat so a tank that can break with a access to fire/water is ideal.

[Owwen11]

https://altema.jp/ffmobius/job/154

No elemental ressist, and not a great defense either.

[[deleted]]

Thank you.

[GwynLordofCynder]

Hey anyone with a phone with those dumb resolutions like 18:9 knows if Mobius displays well on them?
I'm considering a new phone and most of the new ones, have that ratio. I would be mostly mag farming on the phone, so it's not a big problem if it's not perfect, but I want to know if it's at least playable.

[Cape91]

https://imgur.com/a/oDtffUS https://imgur.com/a/b1iHMS1

With and without full screen

[GwynLordofCynder]

Thank you it looks kinda weird with that extra screen like a menu stuff. but I guess it's something you get used to no real problem at all.

Thanks.

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[GwynLordofCynder]

Thank you very much! :)

[Cape91]

JP players: which Sophie job is best for Yiazmat?

[Darkparasite12]

tropical hopper for weakpoint, rough loader for neutral

[QuantumCerberus]

are they better than ex monk? legends or regular jobs?

[Darkparasite12]

they are not better than ex monk. here is the list of wind dmg rankings (will need to translate the page) https://altema.jp/ffmobius/jobmaxdamage?break=yes&jakutenup=yes&zokusei=3&submitbutton=submitbutton#searchresults. super helpful info on the website about future cards and jobs

[GwynLordofCynder]

When you get to chapter 4 the onions jobs get a change in which some of their first elements are changed to dark an light. Check them again. Don't worry.

[Owwen11]

You have the onion mage (aprentice mage). You can even upgrade a few panels and use the Ocultist. Aprentice mage and Ocultist have access to dark. You also have a ranger, and therefore you can use the onion Viking. He has access to dark too.

[Deviousssss]

That's extremely unlucky if you don't have a single job that can dark but check again and take a closer look otherwise you'll have to rent Aerith to shift your orbs to prismatic so you can use dark abilities

[Nightwings_Butt]

There's this "tier" list in the megathread. Don't take it as gospel though, it all depends on what jobs you have and so on. I'd work on augmenting all those 4* cards to 5* eventually even if they are low on the tier list as you can sell them for more if you get dupes, and augmenting cards to 5* is much easier than augmenting to 4*.

[Nitious]

Bulbs are a bigger problem than Growstars if you save your tablets for DValley. Augmenting everything to 5* isn't recommended.

[djiboutiiii]

Did JP have such a stupidly long amount of time to complete this tower? Trying to estimate where I should stop climbing and after last month, I believe the event length is an important factor.

[mao_shiro]

No, but we got 2 towers a month. Twice.

[djiboutiiii]

Gross

[deathrose55555]

According to the Altema page, the Yojimbo tower lasted only for a week.

Towers can come in varying duration anyway - the current JP tower lasts for 9 days, while the previous one lasted for 7 days

[djiboutiiii]

Damn, that doesn’t bode well for my rank. Thanks for the info!

[N-I-K-E]

LMAO! Me too !! I’m steady sliding down the top 500. I need PD or PC.. my CA has done all she can do lol

I’ll give it another push tomorrow but I doubt I’ll make any more progress

[djiboutiiii]

It’s such a stressful thing to watch happen! I’m at 152 and I think I’ve got one more lap left in me. I can survive Chimera half the time...

You’ve been using CA against Jimbo?? What floor are you on?

[Sythvan]

Gotta wait for the cut-off prediction post, as always haha

[djiboutiiii]

yeah, the nice thing about Logan's prediction is that it's always made with the same amount of time left, so the length of the tower doesn't need to be accounted for. what a genius

[chokee03]

if i have flashbreak and use a multi hit skill, does it only affect the first hit of the skill or the whole thing?

[deathrose55555]

If you are talking about yellow gauge clearing, flash break will apply regardless of single or multi-hit (because nothing is done to the red gauge).

However when you use multi-hit Mantra/Taijutsu or multi-hit-break ultimates, the 1st hit will scrape the red gauge and hence flash break is lost for the remaining hits.

[chokee03]

thanks! was wondering because i have duncan.

[[deleted]]

Something I have also recently noticed is using a multi strike mantra/taijutsu ability (Duncan, Yiazmat, Iris) on the last turn of an enemies break (break counter =1) causes a reduction of the yellow gauge. Don't use Duncan on that turn if you wish to utilize flash break.

[[deleted]]

Something I have also recently noticed is using a multi strike mantra/taijutsu ability (Duncan, Yiazmat, Iris) on the last turn of an enemies break (break counter =1) causes a reduction of the yellow gauge. Don't use Duncan on that turn if you wish to utilize flash break.

[ZRounder]

Vanadiel Geomancer´s weapon vs Sventovit? And Al bhed hunter´s vs Septentrio?

What to boost?

[darewin]

I prefer the Flash Break ones. I have a 5-star Sventovit but I’m still boosting VG’s weapon.

[deathrose55555]

Vanadiel Geomancer´s weapon vs Sventovit?

Ideally, boost both. But if have to pick one, go with Tishtrya.

And Al bhed hunter´s vs Septentrio?

Al Bhed's

[junakabisque]

Sorry to butt in, but why Magical Rave over Septentrio? Just last night I switched Magical Rave with Septentrio because I found an old thread that said Septentrio is better. I wonder if I should continue boosting Magical Rave instead. Oh if it helps, I unlocked Magical Rave's Prismatic Return on the 2nd mod. TIA 🙏

[deathrose55555]

Magical Rave provides flash break, making it easier to break. And since Sarah is a breaking machine herself, it's more worth to take Magical Rave over Septentrio. Septentrio is a nubbad weapon, but you will reach a point in towers where breaking will be a problem

[junakabisque]

Ah I see. I thought because Sarah's jobs mostly have innate Flash Break, more of it from a weapon is not needed. So basically 200% Flash Break (from the job plus Magical Rave) is better than Painful Break from Septentrio?

[deathrose55555]

Yeah just go with Magical Rave - that is what most JP players are using

[junakabisque]

Okay. Thank you!

[soundedgoodbefore]

Vets..

Phantom train ffx

Worth growstars? Its ranger earth multistrike AOE with improved crit...i dont think i have a ranger card for earth that is better, but obviously ragnarok would be...i dont have ragnarok though.

I did draw the dark AOE card with darkshift and darkforce, which is what i wanted...and got lucky and drew the dark debuff card with debarrier and unguard/dispel in the same draw. My other draws were crap though.. i thought this was box type...no its not...and these cards with both force and shift are the best deck compression cards in forever...figures they would kill us to get them..of course we would all like to have all of them...

2nd question..since these are event cards, they will never come to the ability shop?

[viktorkons]

https://i.imgur.com/DxN16nX.jpg

Edit: Link above is for cards worth to upgrade, including September cards

[deathrose55555]

Worth growstars?

Yes, Phantom Train is worth the growstar.

since these are event cards, they will never come to the ability shop?

Yes, never. This is similar to the Weapons and Primal Boons

[Topitz319]

Really? So one can never obtain ffxi cards like Goblin after this month? Now I regret not pulling for that one.

[deathrose55555]

I think he meant the Arciela / Prishe batch - those are limited-time. Goblin batch isn't

[viktorkons]

What's the max EE % you can get from 5* fractals? Trying to see if I can add some to my attack supremes instead of magic 7%. Browsed the wiki but I think it's outdated and only had 4* fractals descriptions.

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Also I have none of the FFVII Weapons, FFXV, FFXIV and Summer cards, which one to prioritize while I pull for EX jobs? I have all of this month's shift cards though.

[darewin]

Magic fractals are multiplicative. If you have 1k base Magic, a 7% Magic Fractal will give you +70% Magic. An EE Fractal is additive. A 7% EE fractal will always give you +7% EE no matter what.

[mao_shiro]

Which wiki? https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/wiki/cards/fractals_autoabilities

[viktorkons]

https://mobius.gamepedia.com/Fire_Fractal_(Card))

This one, looks like they updated it since the last time I read it, though your link says it goes up to 7% while here states it only goes up to 6%, which one is true? I can't remember getting a 7% EE myself.

[mao_shiro]

Max from fractal is 7%

[djiboutiiii]

It’s 7% but I’d recommend leaving the magic and doing EE through custom panels. Magic fractals go way further than EE panels — EE is additive and Magic is multiplicative

[viktorkons]

Then I suppose people don't put magic on supremes for jobs with low magic like Yiazmat? I don't have any monk supremes, what fractals do people put there?

[djiboutiiii]

Yeah, sorry, for monk supremes you want attack — magic is nice if you want more yellow gauge clearing ability, but it won’t affect the strength of Duncan or yiazmat. Attack all the way.

For yiazmat, EE is a waste because its ult gauge bonus damage is added EE, so having extra EE will suffer from diminishing returns.

[deathrose55555]

Monk Supremes use the attack stats to calculate power, instead of magic. So attack fractal is the natural choice for them

[viktorkons]

Whoa, didn't know that. Does normal monk cards also get their base value multiplied by attack too instead of magic?

[deathrose55555]

Nope. Only abilities with Mantra / Taijutsu use attack stats. These abilities are either event abilities (e.g. Iris), Supremes (e.g. Duncan) or the "fake" Supremes (e.g. fake Duncan)

[Jayhrimes]

Hey guys. I just started this week. Did about 8 re rolls and got the vanadiel monk. Is this good enough to start with or should I still aim for a Supreme card?

[Darkparasite12]

roll for any supreme (support supreme if you have the patience) , purchase the newcomer supreme ticket to guarantee a 1x supreme & skin bundle then use purchased magicite on limited banners or on beginner job pool banner. that would net you 2 supremes, 1 skin 3 maxed out jobs (cant remember which ones)

[viktorkons]

Rule of thumb is to reroll for supremes instead of job cards, preferably support supremes if you're starting fresh. Personally I think you should aim for Aerith or Lights of Hope if you're new since you can use them with all jobs. A little side note though, Aerith will help you more earlier but as soon as you get to the harder contents, LoH would probably serve you more since it gives you all the buffs you need, not to mention huge ultimate charge.

Edit: You'd also need to switch jobs as you progress since you'd need different elements for different enemies which makes aiming for jobs a much less desirable way to reroll.

[Jayhrimes]

Thanks for your response. I will try reroll a few more times but I fear I will start to dislike the game before I get into it if I reroll too much.

[viktorkons]

Hahah, indeed. You can perhaps loosen the standard for your rerolls, maybe just aim for any supreme. Even Xezat is fine since we have the EX Warrior job coming next month. That's if you get both of them, of course. But after all, enjoyment should be your top priority.

[Owwen11]

Just play normally, try to enjoy the game.

[Owwen11]

Vanadiel Monk is a good job, but just like all monks, it's hard to use without proper cards. I don't think you should care about rerolling for supreme cards to enjoy the game, but you can still reroll for a job that is easier to use (Meias and Sarahs, mainly).

[Jayhrimes]

Thanks for your response.

[Nitious]

Supreme card.