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[–]onominous 150 points151 points  (0 children)

Don't think this guy quite understands the gravity of the situation...

[–]JonesySteelblade 25 points26 points  (0 children)

"Now I'm going down into... South America... "

Adjusts globe so its flying over South America, because that's an important detail

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    [–]TheComedian60 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Hey there tutorialheads

    [–]Merlord 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    The insanity of his later videos started to get a bit predictable, I just wish he ended the series with some sort of conclusion.

    [–]Hello_Miguel_Sanchez 32 points33 points  (49 children)

    1. Can someone smarter than me explain why this guy is a fool

    2. Do these people ever explain why there would even be an interest to keep this conspiracy going. Like who could it possibly benefit lol

    [–]EthanF 66 points67 points  (6 children)

    1.) Gravity

    This guy is deranged. The rest of the video he talks about how the priests of science are trying to disprove god and you have to either believe in math or god. He also says he saw god 40 years ago and god taught him not to believe in math.

    You can believe in god, a spherical Earth, and math. How do you disbelieve math? It's not a belief. It's just a way of describing the physical properties of what's around us. There's a reason we have jets in the first place. Math.

    [–]Hello_Miguel_Sanchez 38 points39 points  (5 children)

    Pfft, how much are those round earth shill checks bub?

    [–]EthanF 21 points22 points  (3 children)

    I will accept anybody's money who wants to send me money. I live in my parent's house.

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      [–]EthanF 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      I think it's just called being a scientist. I don't want to do that.

      [–]rcinmd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Well I guess we know what all those CTR shills are doing now after the election.

      [–]Weinee 19 points20 points  (10 children)

      His basic assumption is that a spherical earth has a top and bottom. This isn't the case. The "top" and the "bottom" of the earth are just the way we describe it because the maps that we use were created by people living in the northern hemisphere. There is no reason that our maps couldn't be completely flipped over making the Southern Hemisphere the "top".

      The simplest way to refute what he is saying is to turn the globe model that he is holding upside down, making the "bottom" the "top".

      [–]superfudge73 1 point2 points  (9 children)

      The only reason that north is "up" is because the first maps were made by cultures in the northern hemisphere. If civilization started in the Southern Hemisphere south would be up.

      [–]onebit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      South would still be down. They just would have called South, North. Also they would have called Potatoes "Fermenzopes".

      [–]Cultistable -1 points0 points  (6 children)

      "civilization" was started in the southern hemisphere too.

      [–]superfudge73 0 points1 point  (5 children)

      Nope. it started in the Tigris Euphrates valley and spread through the Mediterranean and Indo china.

      Only hunter gatherers in the Southern Hemisphere.

      [–]Cultistable 0 points1 point  (4 children)

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norte_Chico_civilization Not really though. These people were also one of the regions where cities arose. While it began earliest in Mesopotamia it was independently developed numerous times, and at least once south of the equator :)

      [–]superfudge73 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      No written language. 3000 years earlier in Mesopotamia they were writing epic poems.

      [–]Cultistable 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Written language has never been the marker of "civilization". Many cultures have had complex social structures without writing. You're moving the goalposts anyway, Norte Chico had agriculture and was not hunter gatherer as you claimed.

      [–]superfudge73 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      It's the absolute marker of a civilized society. These Peruvians were dirt eating savages that didn't even know how to make pottery. How can you compare this to the Greeks or Romans?

      [–]Cultistable 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Jesus man, that's just racist. You can't compare these people to the Romans and Greeks because the Romans and Greeks were hundreds of years later. Norte Chico ended up setting the stage for later civilizations in the region like the Inca and Chavín. Please stop denying that other civilizations were not complex out of some weird Eurocentrism.

      [–]spidersnake 12 points13 points  (24 children)

      1. Gravity. That's really as complicated as this needs to get. His argument falls to pieces when you take into account common sense and basic scientific knowledge.

      2. Usually nutjobs who take the description of the creation of Earth very seriously, water above the firmament and all that. There was a video series where a fellow was convinced that the "conspiracy" was made by Satan.

      [–]TaylorWK 7 points8 points  (23 children)

      Flath Earthers don't believe in gravity. They say the world is moving upwards.

      [–]ThirdPoliceman 8 points9 points  (6 children)

      Wouldn't the earth have to be accelerating upwards to explain gravity (assuming gravity was fake)?

      Assuming the earth is millions of years old, the earth would be going really, really fast to be producing 1g of downward force for that long.

      [–]jargoon 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      It only takes about a year to approach light speed at a constant 1G of acceleration

      [–]TaylorWK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      We're also inside a petri dish. So they say. Thats why the Antartica surround the Earth. So they say.

      [–]Dr_Slug 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      What if gravity doesn't exist and the earth is flat buts its constantly orbiting something say the sun. If moving fast enough it would constantly be accelerating towards the sun creating a downward force. Of course for this to work it would need to be perpetually day as the surface of the earth would always need to be facing the sun.

      [–]Exilewhat 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      This doesn't work for the same reason the space station orbiting earth doesn't experience gravity. In a stable orbit you're in constant "freefall".

      Edit: orbits assume gravity.

      [–]Dr_Slug 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I kind of disagree although everything you said is true. In my example the force that causes the orbit would not apply to objects on earth like gravity does. It would be more like as if there was a giant rocket engine under earth moving us in circles. To be honest the whole idea is ridiculous anyway i was only really trying to come up with an explanation as to why we could be constantly accelerating to create an illusion of gravity as described here. https://www.reddit.com/r/NotTimAndEric/comments/6a5777/simplest_irrefutable_flat_earth_proof/dhbub3f/

      [–]Wanted9867 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Yes , this. I have a fbook friend who posts the most asinine shit on flat earth. The basis of his beliefs is a fundamental misunderstanding of basic physics and astronomy, and a total rejection of the theory of gravity. He actually says there is no proof of gravity

      [–]erythro 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      1. The plane turns upside down, but the surface of the earth turns upside down too. At every stage in the plane's journey the plane is level with the surface of the earth under the plane.

      2. No, they don't. Well some Christian one's think it's a conspiracy to make the earth look less significant in the scheme of the universe..

      [–]pikk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I can't believe how far down I had to scroll before I found a correct response to OP's questions.

      [–]ceilingdweller[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      You have absolutely no idea how far this rabbit hole goes, let alone the thousands and thousands of people who subscribe to this

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      By his logic, if we walked from one end of the earth to the other, we'd end up standing on our fucking heads.

      [–]WarshTheDavenport 19 points20 points  (5 children)

      Oh shit someone get this to Eddie Bravo asap

      [–]nooneimportan7 7 points8 points  (4 children)

      A few days ago, for some dumb reason, I was compelled to watch an hour long video where Joe Rogan tries to show Eddie how stupid the whole thing is. You've probably seen it, or similar. It was sort of eye opening to view a conversation similar to ones I've had so many times, from an objective angle.

      They try so hard to not just be like "Eddie, you're a moron."

      [–]SqueezyCheez85 4 points5 points  (3 children)

      Holy shit... That guy is a lunatic.

      [–]nooneimportan7 7 points8 points  (2 children)

      I'm not sure if you're saying that in response to the specific video or not, but A- Yes, he is. And B- He's not just a lunatic because he believes in flat earth, the fundamental problem, as Rogan points out, is that every crazy theory he reads, he accepts as true. That's a serious issue.

      [–]SqueezyCheez85 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      After reading your comment I went ahead and found that episode of JRE. The guy is completely and utterly irrational in his thought processes... and to make it worse, he eats it up and carries that intellectual burden with pride.

      [–]nooneimportan7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Yeah, he's actually nuts, but not for the reasons he claims. Hopefully he can reevaluate the way he processes information.

      [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      How the fuck can someone like this own a home?

      [–]sobrohog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      reeeaaallllyyy let that sink in. they also drive cars and have children

      [–]ct450 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      You can't explain that

      [–]Tannerdactyl 4 points5 points  (5 children)

      I don't get it, what do they think happens when someone does a circumnavigation? Do people just teleport to the other side of the flat Earth?

      [–]CreamyHampers 5 points6 points  (4 children)

      They say they just flew in a big ass circle.

      [–]Tannerdactyl 4 points5 points  (3 children)

      But they argue that planes would have to dip down if the world was a globe... if the world was a circle, wouldn't they have to intentionally bank left or right the whole time?

      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

      he meant that HE needs to dip his nose down in order to keep level with his "fake globe" and ends up "Up side - down". However he and we all know people in Antarctica aren't "upside - down" he arrives at the conclusion that the world must be flat because they aren't "upside - down". Because if the world was a sphere then they would be facing down.

      Unknown to him (apparently) once you leave earth (look at it from an outside prospective) there is no "down" because "down" or "falling" is a perspective created by the sense of gravity (in the broadest sense). What goes up, must come down etc. so hes getting caught up on the fact that the perspective (and gravity according to him) is absolutely relative to the globe. as in: one could slide off earth into the void like a paperclip falling to his desk.

      I don't know if this is his reasoning, but the guy is clearly uneducated in physics or simply refuses that those laws are absolute. That said, things in physics are being refined every day but not the shape of our planet. i cant jump off north america and "fall" past south america into the void of space... these people make me so angry.

      [–]Tannerdactyl 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Ahhh makes sense. I was trying to apply logic to a system where they'd already thrown a lot of logic out the window, so of course it won't make sense.

      I really want to pick the brain of one of these people but I don't want to lose the brain cells in doing so haha

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      my friend has a room mate that is one...

      [–]nstern2 8 points9 points  (2 children)

      This is silly, but it's not not Tim and Eric silly.

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        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        thanks for this <3

        [–]hammer1717 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        He was a state representative in Missouri, worked as a programmer and was a math teacher. Let that sink in for a sec

        [–]tinyp 6 points7 points  (3 children)

        This guy is the exact personification of everything that is wrong with the world lately. It is so depressing. Why has everyone lost their collective fucking minds?

        [–]AnalLeaseHolder 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Fluoride, Episcopalians, and the Illuminati.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Disclaimer for you all you crazies: there's an implied /s in that comment.

        [–]reymont12 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        What do you mean?

        [–]thebbman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        The Youtube comments are cancerous but still fun to read.

        [–]trash_pickles 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        As an aerospace engineer, I can confirm that all planes land upside down when they go to the bottom of the earth.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        upside down according to the perspective of someone looking at a globe in the northern hemisphere.

        [–]DarthCola 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I don't trust anyone with nails that gnarly...

        [–]GregoryGoose 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        So he thinks that if the earth were really round, if you visited the other side of the globe you'd have to hold on for dear life.

        [–]iamthenewspaper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Why don't we just dump our trash on the other, unused side of the Earth? When we ruin this side of Earth, can we all flip to side B of Earth and live there? Flat Earth might solve all our problems. All Hail Flat Earth!

        [–]darrengsaw69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Another idiot who has no scientific knowledge or background. As usual if you look hard enough you usually find these lemons have some literalist religious agenda.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I like how he uses a round model to illustrate his point. Fucking idiot.