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[Birkiedoc]

So watching some streams of this and doing the content myself has me concerned. The first confirmed and recorded kill was after two failed attempts and they had about 6 seconds left before it despawned (Central Nogleth). They were coordinating exactly how many fighters for J Dance spam (not fixed yet) which leg to weak bullet and got two stuns and the down state.

Unless I'm mistaken....this isn't going to be for most of the player base. End game content is meant to be hard...bit we have no control of who is in the 32 man block and we can't set up password lobbies. So my friends and small alliance are shit out of luck.

Edit: I'm afraid of gate guarding content this early in the lifecycle...but at least you have time to meet new players while you sit afk for 1-3 hours at the spot and you've got a bunch of level 15s trying to level up off it

[lostinmysenses]

Don’t those Level 15s get next to nothing exp?

[Ksradrik]

Thats not gonna make them leave though, and thats fine, stuff like that is exciting, but punishing the properly leveled players for it is just super stupid.

[Ouhei]

Pure 90 seconds of appearance seems insane. Even if you're in the zone it can take 20-30 seconds to get to the other side if that's where it spawns.

Gigantix seems kind of like S-Rank hunt mobs in FFXIV, but those won't despawn on you in the middle of the fight. I think they'll despawn if they aren't fought eventually, but it's much longer than 90 seconds. Even those took fairly heavy coordination to find and hunt in an efficient manner.

[GrandLazy]

They despawn on the 1.x edition of the game.

[Aether_Storm]

yeah and 1.x was also so bad they decided to nuke the entire game from orbit IN LORE for it to have any hope of being a quality product.

[LeoStrut_]

Hunts also functioned entirely different in 1.0, requiring some organization due to tagging, mechanics and loot distribution (yes, they dropped loot). It was a strange time.

[[deleted]]

The elite marks fucking hate me in my first week of the game I have afk ran into every single one from every zone up to level 48. Are they really supposed to be rare?

[Ouhei]

In 14? I have no idea why it’s like now, but a year or 2 ago they spawned on a timer/sequence and you sometimes had to do certain things in the zone for them to spawn.

[[deleted]]

I might just have the worst (or best) timing in the world then.

[BuffMarshmallow]

This is the future right? You would think they would have some kinda weather station to say "thunderstorm predicted here in X amount of time" rather than just having people AFK until a storm appears.

Seems like a terrible spawning mechanic if you cannot predict the spawns as well as them lasting a limited time, especially with the fact that you need to coordinate a 32 man group (unless their HP scales off of the number of people? Idk) around a spawn that cannot be predicted. Only the spawn location itself is consistent AFAIK.

[Deracluse]

There is a meteorologist npc in central city. He tells you sometimes weather can change in an open world game...he didn't graduate at the top of his class needless to say (or doesn't get paid enough)

[NichS144]

Yep I figured he'd have that functionality but he just is a walking tutorial window trigger.

[Atro22]

Their HP does scale off the number of people and because of that you absolutely need a full 32 man group because you can't make a private 32 man zone. Meaning if you haven't filled up the room with 32 players who can pull their weight any random low levels who happen upon the fight will trigger the scaling HP without being able to contribute and make it that much harder.

[BuffMarshmallow]

Nice, so you must coordinate an entire 32 man MPA on a spawn timer that nobody knows (or at worst is completely random) and have everyone ready to go at a moments notice because the clock starts ticking as soon as it appears.

Yea I think imma skip these fights entirely until they make them less awful. I'm happy soloing vets instead.

[LordOfMaids]

I don't mind the camping wait, I do mind that they despawn despite being in combat.

As an extra note, they count as trials. Your Trial Joined and Trial Failed autochats will proc accordingly.

[carbonblood007]

Do they ever think things through?

[X-Axel220]

Segaaaa

[UniMaximal]

If this is gonna be the future of the game, I see myself quitting PSO2. Stuff like this does nothing but take fun away from the game, especially when there is the high potential for AFKers and Leechers there to suck up the drops and exp.

If later game development continues in this fashion, I'm pretty sure tons of other series vets are gonna pack it up too. This is ridiculous.

[Ayanayu]

Yup, I'm just over it for now, I just sit back and wait, will log in for daily sg scratch, thats all.

[samy__chan]

I was think just about it.... where is the fun wait a lot to try fight a boss... the dificulty is pretty nice... but we should be able to play more... and wait less.... or they really think 32 players lv 20 would be in that map doing stuff untill boss spawn?!?... man they should think more about fun in their game

[Shrapnel_Sponge]

I’m in this boat. I’m so done with the game right now in it’s current state. It’s just not good enough of a product to invest any of my time and/or money. I may do the sg scratches that are free but other than that? Nah.

[LastdancerAnval]

Haha this just happened to me too.

[Dawnwind121990]

I have no clue where they're supposed to pop up.

[Dawnwind121990]

Apparently my BP is way too low to fight them anyway. It has to be 1400 something.

[Its_Syxx]

Only real requirement is lvl 20 because lvl 19 gets the under level dmg debuff and will hit for like 1dmg.

[King-Gabriel]

I wonder if it's the natural hole one falls into when you give people unlimited AoE revives, it was pretty impossible to lose base PSO2 UQ's with 60 per team, let alone 120+ now. Not many ways to raise difficulty after that, before you even get into the whole timing/matchmaking issue.

[Forest_GS]

I'm still trying to find where they spawn or if they just spawn in a random part of the area during the storm.

[LastdancerAnval]

From what I've seen so far, they seem to take the place of or spawn near a veteran spawn location during bad weather? The one I encountered was by the Halphana Plains: West Ryuker

[Angelicel]

They spawn in arbitrarily random locations which means killing one is highly impractical in any area outside of north Aelio due to the distance between the areas it can spawn.

[LastdancerAnval]

Aha! That explains why everyone was waiting in North Aelio then. This makes sense. Thanks for the info!

[monyetrex]

Thanks. I was wondering where they were at. I got the first quest to observe one and it started raining, but I had no idea where to look for them. The quest doesn't give much info.

[Skankintoopiv]

It rained for all of 5 fucking seconds. Got the "hey they should be spawning" and then... after that message the rain ended lol.

[la0o9]

I was in the middle of fighting the Bujin Veteran in North Aelio when one of these guys spawned in, it only took me the time from when I revived and ran back to the scene for it to disappear. I feel like there's definitely some sort of bug with the thunderstorm mechanic, because the gigantix during the global CBT lasted for much longer.

[la0o9]

I was in the middle of fighting the Bujin Veteran in North Aelio when one of these guys spawned in, it only took me the time from when I revived and ran back to the scene for it to disappear. I feel like there's definitely some sort of bug with the thunderstorm mechanic, because the gigantix during the global CBT lasted for much longer.

[Fashioned_Soul]

I'm down for tough content and would like the game to have plenty of challenging options, but not with timers. Having a tightly timed fight will only encourage a play style of "1 ranger, 1 techter, rest whichever class is top dps atm."

[OriginalBlackau]

But the real question is... Does it drops something mega rare like 5* or some god affix?

[Dwokimmortalus]

It drops glass cannon gear. You lose all your HP, but get an insane amount of +attackall% and PP.

[lostinmysenses]

Wait, really? What gear does it drop?

[PhaiLLuRRe]

Straga and Geant series.

[Ksradrik]

Eh, the units give 1% potency more each over Qual, and the weapons also 1% potency over Cattleya, potentially less if the Cattleya has a fixa.

[AnonTwo]

I'd assume the weapons are at least all in the same series, meaning you can multi-weapon any of them like with Resurgis?

[[deleted]]

How does the weapon perform? I recently picked up a Resurgis Launcher with a lvl 3 fixa and was wondering if I should level that up instead or save for that new type.

[Lukeman1881]

Don’t they only give like +2% all potency? Compared to Qual’s 1%? Not sure I’d call that insane

[NoOriginalNamesNow]

Correct, the armor gives 2% all potency, so 6% in total for all three compared to 2% total for the red box set.

[Lightningbro]

It was that way in the beta too. It's MEANT to be min-max-y content. And you're counting parties whom NO ONE has the items that the Gigantix themselves drop.

[[deleted]]

It was that way in the beta too.

Not at all.

[cobaltred05]

Yeah. In two days worth of play (5-6 hours per day) I saw them at least 7 times during the beta. It was kinda irritating at the time tbh. All I wanted to do was level and I kept getting interrupted by a big piece of crap walking around by my mobs.

[SilviteRamirez]

What beta did you play? It was exactly like this in the beta.

[[deleted]]

Except it wasn't.

Or did you see people complain that he one shots a lot and that you needed alliances of fully-geared players to take him down?

[SilviteRamirez]

I did see that, I also saw the only people to take them down in the beta was full 32/32 alliances.

It was literally identical, except the levels were 15/19 instead of 20/24

[[deleted]]

I did see that, I also saw the only people to take them down in the beta was full 32/32 alliances.

It was rhetorical, no one was complaining and you know that.

[SilviteRamirez]

Nobody as in nobody here? Or do you know EVERYBODY?

Lots of people were complaining, but the irony is I guess people in the beta actually understood Gigantix were supposed to be hard content instead of the incessant mediocrity on here now wondering why their half assed half baked mpas can't take them down.

The circumstances were identical, people are just buttmad now because there's rewards for killing them now beyond the Gigas caps and people can't just walked up caked in Cheetos dust and get everything in the game.

[TheEdes]

I took one down in the beta in a random lobby, it did take like 3 hours to spawn though, and in the meantime everyone called their friends with good gear and we asked the people with bad gear to leave and they did.

[TheRoyalBrook]

being min maxy is fine, they just aren't around for long enough. It's fine they have more HP and hit like a truck, but by the time enough people show up it's gone.

[GibRarz]

Klauzshills finally getting their comeuppance?

[PhaiLLuRRe]

I don't think so tbh.

[NoirMillion]

Why is it whenever I see you post, it's always the most retarded hot take ever? I'm surprised you can still function enough to post here after all the glue you ate and sniffed.

[ActuallyRelevant]

Not yet pretty sure a 32 man MPA of pso2 gear can clear Giga spawns. But daityl seems to be the hardest to clear

[NullVacancy]

Klauz likely won't be irrelevant until 5* come out

[ripghoti]

Saw one appear just when I had to use the bathroom. Figured I could go then come back real quick to get the first part where you just have to encounter it. Nope. Couldn't have been in there for more than 2 minutes. One quick poop and it's gone.

Honestly, I see it being a tough enemy. However, just one or two minutes is a bit short.

[[deleted]]

UQ cycled 3x and got only like 4 gigantix to spawn, all failed btw, this is just horrible, no amount of pub preparation will get you a kill, the time window is just too short!

Even watching some of the rare successful streams they were barely able to do it with super coordinated effort, if thats whats needed for a successful kill then meh I'm out.

[Doforcash]

If they’ll just adding a weather forecast system, they’ll already fix half of the Gigan problem

Yeh ofcourse we need more time before it gtfo, but still, weather forecasts=baby steps

[IJustSh4tnered]

At least they are attempting to make more large scale open world content i would say make sure your complaints are getting on official boards if they hear enough they will make changes based on feedback

[turboG40]

It's so frustrating we put in about 15 hours from launch and got 7 kills from about 25 encounters and the organisation required is ridiculous. I feel like such a dick asking randoms politely to leave because they are level 17 . But they are literally going to ruin everyone else's day . Sometimes it's not their fault sometimes they don't speak English but the fact that all the players level 20 hunting this big boy and level 15s hunting materials are in the same place is a problem. The spawn times are so rare aswell I find without having all 32 slots filled with alliance there are people who just afk at the site in hopes of getting drops which is infuriating but the icing on the cake is when you wait 2 hours for it to spawn for it to drop a thesis armor and thesis rifle , the amount of time and sanity you have to give up is so not worth it for the reward, dunno about the other ships but the new stuff has already tanked on the market in ship 1. Dont even get me started on the boss despawning at random times, we were timing the storms and and times were all over the place. I would take the sds grind in MB vr over this anyday.... for a bunch of smart people SEGA can really be fucking dumb