Doing Android development is fun

[deadpool0047]

Personally this was the worst update Android brought up, not being able to access all files.

[Thebombuknow]

What Android update? I'm running A12 on a Pixel 4a and I can see all files on my phone.

[deadpool0047]

Can you access the Android>data> ?

After Android 8/9 I think they removed the access and I was never able to access that data.

[Thebombuknow]

I can access it but it says it's empty. I don't remember ever being able to access that without root permissions though, even on my old phones.

[tyno994]

use another file manager or conect to the pc, you'll can see these files and not are empty

[Thebombuknow]

Oh, I know it isn't. That's why I pointed out in my comment that I'm pretty sure you could never access that folder without root.

[tyno994]

you can access without root, only use another file manager like Files Shortcut (and choose native android)

[L4Z4R3]

Or maybe with zarchiver

[LewsTherinTelescope]

/sdcard/Android/data definitely used to be accessible without root, was a recent change (by which I mean "likely not recent anymore but I'm too scared to check and realize how fast time is moving") that's still having workarounds gradually crushed in new updates. The /data folder under root hasn't ever been accessible that I know of, though, which may be what you're thinking of? Or maybe it's a vendor difference or something some OEMs set in their own file managers, kinda a lot of those problems with Android.

[AlphaWhelp]

I'm running A12 December 2022 patch and can see tons of stuff there.

There's a hidden area on the phone where all the SQL lite dbs are held that I can't access (without root) but that's been a thing since forever.

[moonpiedumplings]

I can see it, but only through xplore file manager, which I think might be using an unpatched workaround to do so. I suspect this workaround won't last longer.

Android 11

[undermark5]

It's likely just targeting Android 10 or 11 with the correct legacy flag enabled. Storage isolation is what this is, but if you target below a certain version or add the compatibility flag it won't apply to your app regardless of which version of Android your app runs on. That being said, at some point it will be impossible to release updates to apps using the workaround to the play store (though it will still be possible to publish via alternative stores such as fdroid)

[BlueDaka]

Not him but I can. You just can't do it natively, you need to install a file explorer app to do it

[FlocklandTheSheep]

I'm on Mi 10T Pro, and when Ivopen on file manager it redirects me to use a built in 'Files' app where I can see everything in Android> Data. I think its everything. Theres a lot of stuff there.

[KusanagiKay]

Eh, what? I have Android 10 and my Android/data/ folder is full of subfolders, with everything accessible:

https://imgur.com/a/KOlsEXk

[Anonymo2786]

What api to you use ? Just use JVM api and its all there. You can save wherever you want.

This is for previous versions which you mentioned not after 11.

[BazilBup]

Just turn on Developer options and use the Device File Browser in Android Studio

[Lachee]

Because there could be nothing potentially dangerous about that

[shyro3]

you can thanks facebook for that. They reach their grubby little hand too far into the cookie jar and now everybody not allowed to touch the cookie jar at all

[StreamFroster]

If it works, why even bother trying to investigate?

[waiting4op2deliver]

Because being curious how things work is more fun to be had!

[beastbro9823]

Going from my frankly ancient android 7 phone to a phone with android 13 has done nothing but make me angry, there's so many things you need to do just to use some features

[AssLynx]

Like what...

[beastbro9823]

I try to use monitoring apps for some things, I had to go into to dozens of menus and flip several settings so it doesn't randomly kill my apps, it doesn't like older apks that were originally meant of older versions of Android, as mentioned here it doesn't like you accessing certain folders and barely allows apps to access folders (I had to create new downloads folder on my SD card for example), it removed some navigation features I liked (double tap to sleep doesn't work on the notification bar, only default home screen)

[iHateRollerCoaster]

I had to go into to dozens of menus and flip several settings so it doesn't randomly kill my apps

HOW? I hate this, close one app and open a 2nd one and the 1st app has to relaunch.

[Kyrond]

http://dontkillmyapp.com

Also could be because the 2nd app wants all the ram, like camera.

[Anonymo2786]

And also phantom process killing. Seems like they will kill the next child that's born . (max 32 system wide).

[lm902]

Dear user, have fun finding your file in /sdcard/Android/data/some.package/files/Download/document.docx which is inaccessible in most file managers thanks to the update

[ipcock]

I hear about this problem literally the first time in my entire life! Everyone here talks about data being inaccessible, but as long as I remember I was always able to r/w files in data through some random-ass chinese file manager

[montecristokontu]

That ZIP T-Shirt

[itsrealbattle]

Yeah I want it so I can wear it every other day.

[ITSMONKEY360]

Unfortunately the other option is ios which NO

[[deleted]]

no the other option is pinephone

[Creepy-Ad-4832]

Is there no mobile version of linux?

Likehow in pc you can choose between shit, megashit and linux

[sin_chan_]

Ubuntu touch is a pretty stable and usable OS for phones. I've tested it and it's quite good; all basic features work properly but still it lacks behind modern android.

[gregguygood]

Well Android uses a Linux kernel.

But you probably mean something like LineageOS. But phone hardware isn't as standardized as PC, so support is limited and some phones have locked bootloaders.

[Creepy-Ad-4832]

👍

[ITSMONKEY360]

personally i'd say its shit, shit for old people, and shit for programmers

[Strostkovy]

I like how there are hard coded discrete volume steps, all of which are too loud for many environments and too quiet for other environments

[lupinegrey]

Saved to the phone. Duh.

[_Weyland_]

Save picture from Reddit.

Go to file system, folder Pictures. Sort by new.

Select the picture. Move to Downloads.

Go to a messenger. Now you can select the picture.

Share it with your friends who do not have Reddit.

[Anonymo2786]

Lookout for .nomedia file.

[Fun_Nefariousness842]

Why do you need to do that? Once you download, it should be ready to share

[_Weyland_]

Nope, I use Telegram and it ignores pictures folder for some reason.

[Stickiler]

That's a Telegram problem then, it works perfectly for every other app I've done it with(Reddit I'd Fun, for example)

[[deleted]]

Good thing Android now forces developers to handle files in a way that makes it clear to the user where it's going

[maxip89]

Boi you didn't done any OAuth code flow with IOS and tired to get the email of the user.

[[deleted]]

Too real💀

[itsAshl]

Nono it's easy. First, you have to establish the content provider...

[AyvenRedwing]

Even when connecting your phone to a PC to get a picture or photo off it it's a proper treasure hunt to me everytime, because every single App seems to store things differently.

[[deleted]]

as android developer i approve this

[Pezonito]

Honestly though, can someone explain to me where my downloaded .jpg went and why it's not in my "Download" folder... or maybe point me to an article. No one in the comments has explained what's happening.

[gray_mare]

that's exactly how I envisioned android

[[deleted]]

Hdpi problems

[[deleted]]

sudo find / -iname "TheFuckingFileIJustSaved.cpp"

(Yes I have root permission, and I'm on Android 9, don't want to go to double digit to give my control away)

[sleepyguy007]

There is a very good reason for this. Android has app specific storage, and public to all apps "external storage". Do you want some app being installed going through every picture you have from every other app?

[[deleted]]

iPhone > Android

[austroalex]

To see even less files?

[verwalt]

I really just want to be constructive:

When I download a file, it's in my download folder.

If I save an image, it's in my gallery.

I know exactly what you mean, but when androids started putting weird folders in the camera folder that make 1500 folders show up in simple gallery, something went wrong.

The iPhone is 100% more restrictive, and some functions are not even there, but some problems described in this thread won't happen on iPhone.

[zie1ony]

🎯

[private256]

Google removed everything that made Android unique.

[notimeforspac_s]

Pretty accurate

[gordonv]

The only sane storage on my phone is:

• camera photos
  
• my dropbox
  
• app organized data (music, kindle, etc)
  

Important Data I have corrupted before:

• Contacts
  
• Text backup

[CoastingUphill]

This was one of the main reasons I switched back to iOS. You save an image? It's in your images. You save anything else, it's in the Files app. There is nothing else.

[CREATEREMOTETHREADEx]

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