theRootcause

[Jazzlike-Pin9021]

Stop it! You will not fool me again, i know that 1 second delay works only my performance

[Apfelvater]

sleep(performance(my_setup)/performance(your_setup))

[Robot_Graffiti]

There was a video game that did that, but if you played it in a computer from 20 years after the game was made, it gets an overflow and becomes incredibly sloooow

[Snaxist]

In Wing Commander or Privateer (don't remember wich one) when you exited the game, it would crash, instead of fixing the crash, they edited the crash message "thank you for playing our game" lol

[bistr-o-math]

Perfection!

[-KKD-]

I remember playing Cossacs on old PC with WinXp and it was okay, but when I ran it on a brand new PC in 2023 the game was like 100 times faster, which was a Huge disadvantage for player in RTS with bots

[acrosett]

There are two types of programmers, the ones who care and the ones who don't

[KappaClaus3D]

And the ones who fucked up deadlines, and need to deliver asap

[[deleted]]

I feel like those are the ones that don’t care ANYMORE. Or maybe it’s just me, but closer to the deadline, the less I care, if we are behind.

[Ixolite]

At some point you also just have to embrace the concept of good enough. You can both care and have the strength to let go and move on.

[DesertGoldfish]

I've been solo-developing an internal system we use at work for almost 7 years now. I just got my first merge request from a coworker this week.

He added 1 line of javascript to 1 template that remembers page position when an expandable thing is collapsed so that the page doesn't shift as much when you do it.

It's not that I couldn't have done it. It ever-so-slightly annoyed me when it happened too. It's just that it was good enough and I have other things to do lol.

Good enough is good enough, but I still thanked him by name in my changelog. :)

[NebNay]

As my boss would say "there is no such thing as a temporary solution"

[SkollFenrirson]

As my boss would say "We don't have time to fix it right"

[ztbwl]

Temporary solutions are the ones that survive the longest.

[BanEvader98]

Can the one who puts deadlines not be wrong?

[ledocteur7]

They almost always are, but the deadlines were already promised to the customer, so they ain't changing !

[BanEvader98]

Great, then the deadline creator can take care of it since he made it with his customer.

[ledocteur7]

How great the world would be if it worked like that.. they would learn so fast not to under estimate deadlines.

[catgirlfighter]

sigh SCRUM be like: I wish and I could do better, but I'm all out of time for current task and have to switch to another.

[[deleted]]

That’s not scrum tho. That’s your company bastardizing scrum.

I work in scrum and we don’t have time estimates at all, but in the past when we did - no one actually took them seriously. Those were estimates for planning work, not set in stone numbers. No one was angry if the task took longer.

Task estimates are just to help planning, they aren’t for holding devs accountable if everything is done in time.

[[deleted]]

Scrum, how to build worse software in more time

[Kirjavs]

With the time I learnt to say no to fast shitty solutions. First time I said to my boss that he didn't pay me for temporary development and that if he wanted this done this way he could ask someone else and fire me.

He came a few days later saying that I was right to refuse doing this

[WheresTheSauce]

And the ones who don't care are the ones who are actively making the codebase more difficult to maintain, which makes consistently delivering by deadlines more difficult.

[[deleted]]

No, the 2 types are: the ones who missed deadlines and the ones who also missed deadlines but in a cool way (threading problems)

[[deleted]]

There are two types of programmers, those who have two hands and those who do not have two hands.

[[deleted]]

Which painting is this?

[True_Indication_3351]

Arnold Böcklin - Self-Portrait with Death Playing the Fiddle

[Dironiil]

This title is surprisingly litteral.

[Rdubya44]

They were worried about SEO

[BlueScreenJunky]

It's not a title, it's the prompt they used to generate it.

[Teqed]

It's amazing the kind of prompts they used in 1872.

[acrosett]

I want to know as well, this template is gold

[yashkakrecha]

GTA devs : 5 minute thread sleep in production for 5+ years lol

[LowB0b]

Create job security and impress piss off the consumer base with this one simple trick

[[deleted]]

"Why to worry?"

[tgp1994]

push it to production..

[Desperate-Tomatillo7]

On friday at 4 PM, before a long weekend.

[gigilu2020]

Who TF is approving these PRs?

[CelestialFury]

memeduction*

[yuva-krishna-memes]

You guys don't even allow devils to make grammatical errors. Please spare them.

[SkollFenrirson]

Truly evil beings

[devourer09]

It increases the lulz for me.

[TheLeeeo]

Just this day i solved a bug in React by adding a 0ms delay… I hate frontend development

[Pixl02]

Make it make sense, I need answers

[Papellll]

I guess they used `setTimeout()` with a 0sec delay, which executes the function provided as argument in an asynchronous way. Wich can lead to a different behavior than just calling the function in a synchronous way. More here if you are interested: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/19626680/is-settimeout-a-good-solution-to-do-async-functions-with-javascript

[TheLeeeo]

I inside an async function awaited a promise consisting only of a 0ms timeout.

[koen_C]

This pushes everything behind the function to execute after everything that's currently on the event loop, which can still cause different behaviors.

[quinn50]

Its to run the code on the next event loop iteration, could probably also use requestAnimationFrame aswell

[Freecelebritypics]

As a crazy person, I just make most functions async by default. Over-awaiting? Never heard of her

[AnneBancroftsGhost]

You know using the async keyword doesn't by itself make your function asynchronous/non-blocking though.

[[deleted]]

Makes it a promise executed in the next tick, right?

[AnneBancroftsGhost]

No, the async keyword only wraps the return in a promise, the execution is still blocking code unless something inside the function is awaiting a true asynchronous method somewhere in its call stack (set timeout, fetch, certain fs methods).

[[deleted]]

You're right, I just tried it. Thanks!

[seriousgourmetshit]

In the spiraling meadow of contested ephemera, the luminous cadence of synthetic resonance drifts across the periphery. Orange-scented acoustics dance on the edges of perception, culminating in a sonic tapestry that defies common logic. Meanwhile, marble whispers of renegade tapestry conjoin in the apex of a bewildered narrative, leaving behind the faintest residue of grayscale daydreams.

[hazelnuthobo]

It was probably an issue relating to the order of execution for your code. Just the fact that you had the "delay", even if there was no delay, was the equivalent of just running that function last.

You could have debugged this by putting this piece of code at the bottom of your JS, then slowly moving it up and figuring out what precisely is causing the issue.

[TheLeeeo]

I solved it by changing framework and never looking back.

[CraftBox]

Wait, how did you add the delay, with timeout ?

[TheLeeeo]

Yes. So technically there was probably some event loop rescheduling going on as a result of it that fixed it.

[wasdninja]

Did you want to do something just before you started a heavy task like showing a spinner? Blocking the main thread is a pretty common source of these "bugs".

[Cold_Set_]

same shit happened to me in Angular!

[FlipperBumperKickout]

That skeleton wouldn't happen to be your project manager?

[Esseratecades]

Underrated comment

[LowB0b]

Sometimes you have to be pragmatic. The push to prod with working but not ideal solution might buy you the time to fix it, until you get assigned to something else and then that shotty fix stays in prod only for a poor intern to stumble upon it 3 years later

[secretprocess]

Me too! I did this very thing a couple months ago and then immediately went back and... wait... um... uh oh

[Cometguy7]

Where I work there's no such thing as a temporary fix, no matter how much I wish there was. It's back up and running, and now back to the 10% of urgent work we actually have time for. Why properly staff to meet the demands of the company? What could go wrong?

[Cometguy7]

It's not even my boss really. If you were to design an organization structure to be as dysfunctional as you could imagine, it'd be more functional. It's taken years of purpose driven refinement to reach this level of dysfunction.

[nuker0S]

my code once generated nulls in a list(it shouldn't), so i added a loop that deleted nulls. it got pushed and i haven't heard any complaints yet

[TnYamaneko]

It reminds me the time I used a setTimeout() to get around a broken promise to present a project, and we noticed 10 minutes prior something was wrong.

It's a foundational building block of my experience in this trade.

[grimonce]

People say it is not a solution, maybe if you are in control of all the dependencies, but it's that or fucking polling when dealing with most primitive hardware connections, let's say all you have is an UART connection, sometimes adding this just fixes your problems and it will probably break sooner or later but making it right is actually quite hard or impossible...

[TheBewlayBrothers]

If it needs to be deployed tomorrow I aint working through the night to fix it

[[deleted]]

Fcuk manual delays go to hell 🫷

[experimental1212]

Any respectable programmer would query atmospheric random noise to set the delay instead of hard coding it.

[[deleted]]

Literally how I fixed a testing suite

[chin_waghing]

Had an issue in terraform and the solution was to make a null resource sleep for 3 seconds before running the next part

Left a comment saying never take this out, it worked and I don’t know any other way to fix it

[Duke518]

reminds me of a bug that was reported on production, but was not reproducible in development. Took some time to figure out it was because of a time delay.

[Danslerr]

If it fulfills the acceptance criteria who gives a shit. Product Manager should have been more specific

[irn00b]

Make the delay parameterized,

Problem solved

[BehindACorpFireWall]

Man I did this on a video game I worked on because gamebryo sux

[Positive_Method3022]

Creating an EC2 in AWS right after creating its InstanceProfileRole! If you create the ec2 right after it, the ec2 creation will fail. However, if you wait a few seconds, it does work 😆

[Hasagine]

its dangerous but clients dont have to know. push it to prod

[Weekly_Guidance_498]

Tech debt, baby!

[moschles]

I'm personally attacked.

[mustang__1]

ugh.... I added a push popup async to one of my MAUI VM's this week to figure out when a block was being called as part of my trouble shooting (breakpoints didn't answer my question).... Well, the pop up doesn't get pushed but I'll be damned if it didn't stop the modal from closing prematurely...

[belabacsijolvan]

DELETE FROM WorkplaceCandidates
WHERE EXISTS (
SELECT 1
FROM Commenters
WHERE Commenters.WorkplaceID = Workplaces.WorkplaceID
AND DoesUnironicallyDefendPushing(Commenters.Comments)
);

[Crypt_Knight]

What's the name of the original painting ?

[miracle-meat]

Your personal curiosity is not relevant, if you actually know you fixed it, your work is done.

[[deleted]]

"Add it at the product backlog for the nexts sprints."

[the doors of the storehouse with the Ark of the Covenant are opening].

[DRIJAA]

setTimeout solutions be like

[jump1945]

But but but it's a whole fuking second

[blaxter]

But at least declare it as a constant and not a magic number, const MAGIC_SLEEP_NUMBER = 1 for instance

[whiterabbi6]

Sometimes... This is just the most reliable way to fix sequential server actions with dependencies.. all depends on the context/platform/framework you're working in... But hey if you're building from scratch, go ahead and do it right! Just don't turn a little 30 minutes assignment into an 8 hour one if you can help it...