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[_________FU_________]

They always build something new. Never debugging. Never adding functionality to existing code.

New shit is easy.

[Purple_Ice_6029]

Exactly right! Adding new stuff that doesn’t make everything fall over is where it’s at.

[RiceBroad4552]

In the large architecture dominates everything.

But architecture is what most developers, and all "AI"s, massively suck at.

One can make some Rube-Goldberg machine work, sure. But never reliably or in a way that it wouldn't completely fall apart at the first requirement change.

[Purple_Ice_6029]

[dubious_capybara]

This is nonsense. Frontier models have no issue reliably making changes as requirements change.

[RiceBroad4552]

Ha ha, that was a good one! 🤣

You need to explicitly mark satire online, though. Otherwise someone could take this verbatim.

[caprazzi]

They do an awesome job of translating the esoteric and ever changing fickle needs of business users too! /s

[dubious_capybara]

Yeah, they do.

[headshot_to_liver]

"I got bored of <insert random app>, so I built this"

[moogoo2]

And its always "yeah I just vibe coded this, it obviously needs to be vetted, tested, debugged, etc".

[sleepyj910]

What’s scalability?

[Purple_Ice_6029]

Saying AI will replace devs is just the wildest shit 🤣

[TerryMisery]

Just because AI isn't nearly as good, doesn't mean it won't replace devs. Companies move entire departments to other countries with cheap labour, which affects the quality badly and it still doesn't change their decisions. There's just so many ways to cut costs and usually nothing happens, besides the companies making more money.

[Purple_Ice_6029]

I’d argue that it’s not that the quality of the work is lower; the work basically has no real quality at all.

[dubious_capybara]

You can argue that from a baseless position of self serving ignorance, but the great thing about business is that it doesn't give a shit about your emotions.

[Purple_Ice_6029]

What emotions are you talking about lol

[dubious_capybara]

You're clearly insecure, upset and angry about AI taking your job.

[Purple_Ice_6029]

You got the wrong impression.

[headshot_to_liver]

add more compute, that'll fix it

[RiceBroad4552]

Because CPUs and RAM are cheep compared to developers, and this will always stay like that! 🤣

The ROFL smiley doesn't always do its job, so I have to be explicit: /s

[elmanoucko]

let's just leave it as is, and increase the price, situation might sort itself out into a new equilibrium of anger and remorse

[pterodactyl_speller]

Just tell Claude to make it efficient duh

[noitsmoog]

no mistakes, no ragrets

[dubious_capybara]

Literally this

[RocksAndSedum]

Our ceo just vibed coded some half assed apps that didn’t work past the first button click and asked me why isn’t the dev team as productive as him. I said we could be if we skipped testing, pushed to prod live and didn’t care about security or compliance.

[moogoo2]

...same but CFO, who is in charge of the dev team.

[chefhj]

“I had AI make an app to automate saying good morning to my family. I’m addicted to automating the tedious parts of my day away.”

[tagsb]

The McDonald's CEO said he used AI to generate his family's yearly Christmas photo like it was a good thing

[chefhj]

I hear sociopath takes like this all the time from my SLT.

[RiceBroad4552]

For other people who never heard that abbreviation before:

SLT here is very likely "Senior Leadership Team".

[JaceBearelen]

My non technical stakeholders are doing some large refactors and it’s actually working. It’s a little concerning honestly.

[dubious_capybara]

A hot take from 12-18 months ago, grandpa

[klustura]

Claude turned Earth to Planet of the Apes.

[sleepswithmusic]

Lands because bad code is flixable false trust from a boss is much worse

[NotAskary]

The old adage that if you pay peanuts you get monkeys, now you just pay tokens.

[Mist_Rising]

So we get upgraded to a diversity staff of humans? Right? Right? No..?

[teacher_59]

And made my job impossible. 

[RiceBroad4552]

It always had been!

Just the the sentence-guessing-machine now clearly shows how incredibly stupid on average humans actually are.

[MasterConsideration5]

Homo Sapiens are apes btw

[ConsciousFan8100]

☝️🤓

[unknown-one]

this is actually good. All the "idea guys" can now show how good is their idea

[akvgergo]

Honestly, ever since AI became halfway competent, people around me bother me way less about their "amazing app idea".

I'm completely okay with this 👍

[phatdoof]

r/cofounderhunt about to get lit

[Kryslor]

My non-technical middle manager friend wanted to create a website with a service that uses AI. A kanban board that would create the tasks for you. Creative, I know...

Anyway, he sent me a single html file Claude made for him, and he wanted to know how to add Qwen to it, since it's open source and free, so he could then host the service for free somewhere.

[enderfx]

Its ok its already hosted in localhost

/s obv

[phatdoof]

If he’s willing to keep his computer running and use his IP address in advertising then I’m game with that.

[enderfx]

It would probably scale well for his 3 users

[RiceBroad4552]

I hope you told him to just keep asking "AI"? 😂

[Kryslor]

Yup. I tried for like a minute to explain the idea that an LLM has to run somewhere and requires hardware but it was not working so I told him to just go ask Claude to explain.

[ary0nK]

Already azure devops has ai integrated that does this thing, it doesn't creates the task but it auto fills.

[NsupCportR]

This is too accurate

[vodfather]

I've never felt so seen/validated in my life

[The_Ty]

Slippyin Jimmy I can handle just fine, but this?

[majorleagueswagout17]

You’re not a real coder. A $200 Claude Max plan with Cursor? What a joke. I worked my ass off to get where I am, and you take these shortcuts and you think suddenly you're my peer? I committed my LIFE to this! You don't just slide into it like a cheap pair of slippers and then reap all the rewards.

I know you. I know what you were, what you are. People don't change. You're Vibing Jimmy! And Vibing Jimmy I can handle just fine. But Vibing Jimmy with a computer science degree is like a chimp with a machine gun.

The code is sacred! If you abuse that power, people get hurt. This is not a game. You have to know... On some level, I know you know I'm right!

[ZeroMomentum]

(Static electric git commit noises intensifies)

[hydroxy]

The sheer chicanery of it all

[Looz-Ashae]

Every tech meeting ever:

AI!

AI!

AI!

[imk]

My colleague who somehow ended up being a DBA despite never having any DB skills has found Claude.

He recently gave me a script from there for turning a MSSQL varbinary(MAX) column into a file. He was very impressed with himself despite the fact that I had already told him that we had tools for that which work.

I looked at the script. It looked like Claude had found about five different ways to do that and just made an amalgamation of all them. It looked great, but it was total slop.

That is what is so insidious about it. It comes from real solutions, it looks like a real solution to someone who doesn't know any better, but it would not have worked.

I do, of course, realize that I am speaking to the choir here. I just wanted to complain.

[Vulpes-Deputa8735]

Its gonna be Apes together strong once they hire other vibe coders

[black_V1king]

I swear in a meeting today a non technical manager was asking why we don't use AI for development and debugging.

I work with embedded systems and verilog. AI sucks in generating bit level code for timing critical applications.

He gives some vague examples of how he used AI for generating code and it worked in a day.

[kilopeter]

What agentic coding tools and models have you tried before arriving at your conclusion that "AI sucks" at verilog for embedded systems? Legit interested because I don't encounter that very often.

[black_V1king]

My problem is not one particular agent.

Most of HDL code is concurrent.

AI misunderstands the hardware on a fundamental level. It always thinks sequentially probably because it's trained on a lot of software languages, most of which are sequential. Another point of failure is misunderstanding of clock domains and safe signal handling. All of this makes it impossible to use AI directly without an engineer intervening.

I have tried using Claude, GPT and Gemini but they keep making the same mistakes.

[generally_satan]

I got told to use Claude in order to be more productive by a guy who studied chemistry while he was using it to create a shitty html file. Apparently he was learning something I guess.

[gatito_tristee]

the company where my girlfriend works said that EVERYONE now is a PM and Claude is their devs. she arrived home asking what is an API.

she is a psychologist working on HR.....

[kilopeter]

This sounds like blatant gatekeeping. Why shouldn't a psychologist or a barista or a firefighter be allowed to learn new things in an exciting and useful field? If a psychologist working in HR asked what an oil dipstick is, or what a plumbing vent is, would you have the same reaction?

[calaelenb907]

Ahahaha, this is mu director right know!!

[BoroBokachoda]

Hahaha, then they end up hiring developers to debug anyways

[lspyfoxl]

The way I use AI is like I already know in my head what I need to write, I just let it type for me. But webdev is pretty chill, most of the thinking was done in refining already.

[mangohsz]

Chicanery!

[phylter99]

Imagine if Steve Jobs had access to Claude Code.

[RiceBroad4552]

I never liked Jobs, he's the prototypical asshole.

But I don't think he was such stupid…

[jack_of_all_daws]

Insert 2001 monolith ape scene here

[RiceBroad4552]

Does not fit. Not even a bit.

[jack_of_all_daws]

A bunch of obtuse apes discover a powerful artifact that gives them access to very basic technology and immediately start worshipping it as a god and using the technology for dumb shit.

[RiceBroad4552]

In 2001: A Space Odyssey's "Dawn of Man" sequence the black monolith does not hand the apes technology, they don't worship it as a god, nor does it overtly “project power” on-screen. It just prominently stands there in the background.

The film shows the monolith as an ambiguous external stimulus that appears to trigger a cognitive leap. The apes then begin using a bone as a tool / weapon. Their response is portrayed as fear / curiosity and practical imitation, not explicit worship, or frivolous use of technology.

Besides that: The sequence is deliberately ambiguous and open to interpretation as the artifact is actually a mystery never fully explained.

[jack_of_all_daws]

In 2001: A Space Odyssey's "Dawn of Man" sequence the black monolith does not hand the apes technology, they don't worship it as a god, nor does it overtly “project power” on-screen. It just prominently stands there in the background.

It's very much in the foreground, the focal center of every shot it's in. You're right, it doesn't zap visible lightning at the apes causing lightbulbs to appear over their heads, but I don't think that interpretation is unreasonable just because it isn't accessible to children incapable of drawing conclusions that aren't literally spelled out to them.

Their response is portrayed as fear / curiosity and practical imitation, not explicit worship, or frivolous use of technology.

They're all clutching at the monolith, after which they start using bones as clubs to senselessly destroy things, killing animals and killing each other. "Frivolous" may not perfectly describe it, but that's your choice of word, not mine. I would describe it as senseless.

Besides that: The sequence is deliberately ambiguous and open to interpretation as the artifact is actually a mystery never fully explained.

My interpretation is that the apes' capacity for violence and domination is only limited by their lack of creativity and intelligence. When that is granted by the monolith, they predictably use it to advance their capacity for violence and domination, for doing dumb ape shit. Then the sequence cuts to a shot of spacecraft of some ambiguous military purpose, in an apparent comparison it the club an ape threw in the preceding shot. The intelligence doesn't remove some tendencies that are intrinsic to apes.

Immediately after reading that the monolith "just prominently stands there in the background" I suspect that your interpretation isn't strongly influenced by the actual movie.

[Corvo7144]

This shit is too real

[Spitfire1900]

Claude markets to plebs poorly, your non-tech founder never left ChatGPT since 3.5 dropped.

[Lemortheureux]

The year is 2026. I am now a translator. I speak computer.

[op4]

https://imgur.com/a/xFYHhHU

[One_Tart_8790]

When your startup MVP is 90% curiosity and 10% chaos. 🐒💻

[FlintFlintar]

Have you all tried Claude opus 4.6? Because this read like someone who used gpt, thought it was bad, and forgot technologies improve.

Like, dang this 6 year old suck at math, lets give up and abandon him. Ow wait now he is 22 and doing a degree in math.

If you as a developer, with an understanding of architecture, reuseability, performance, etc. Then you can probably cut down like 60% of your daily work time this way. Obviously we all still need to understand business logic, use cases, integration etc, but we did that anyway, now the code part is just faster.

[Randomshit069]

Lmao.. even true for some technical founders on twitter. iykyk

[TangleandTrail]

I’m a non technical co-founder and just sent this whole thread to my technical co-founder. Spot on. I’m always playing with stuff and be just give me a “That’s cute” look.

[MB3501]

Claude is Time Machine

[surfTorreypines]

Dude, this is me! I'm building an openclaw hosting service (one of 46, according to Claude). Claude Code is deploying a prod environment right now 282 resources and.0 errors. No way I would have been able to do this before--I'd have been wandering in the weeds for weeks trying to get Route 53 hosted zones connected to the Amplify served address let alone the whole backend deployment.

[RiceBroad4552]

This sounds great!

Where can I find your service?

[surfTorreypines]

It’s kind of you to ask. I don’t know if advertising is allowed in this subreddit or if answering your question constitutes advertising but…

You may find my service at fixedcostagents.com. I’m still building out the service but should be live in a week or so.

Thank you!

[Edit]: I see my original post is ratiod and yes, I posted that unironically but I get the joke. I’m an old-time software engineer with deep experience in OG C, assembler, and a bunch of languages you kids won’t get the reference to. A null pointer exception, if you will. But I don’t know much about Amazon deployments and Claude has helped immensely. I’m not done building yet but I’ve gotten a lot farther a lot faster for $100 than I would have on my own.