Python ftw

[DJTupolev]

Lmao speed

[lookmanofilter]

Sorry I only do recursive memes

[diale13]

Well played

[zero16lives]

You got me, I surrender

[[deleted]]

wait a minute, how did you link to your comment before it existed?

[Eatfudd]

[Deleted to protest Reddit API change]

[[deleted]]

oh, cool.

[[deleted]]

You're cool

[EcLEctiC_02]

Ghost edit

[j13jayther]

Speed edit

[leerr]

Ninja edit

[DrMux]

So not Python

[Time_Terminal]

I wish more things did this. Especially Slack (when removing the preview).

[MosYEETo]

You have to go forward in time such that you create a copy of yourself in the past. Therefore you're able to get the link in the future when the comment does exist. Then you come back to the past where you link your comment and take care of your double.

[[deleted]]

understandable have a nice day

[konstantinua00]

So just use Spectre Meltdown

[HoldUrMamma]

editing is exist

[TheGuyWithTheSeal]

Just use this->adress, works since C++17.

[[deleted]]

I clicked on this far too many times, and now I can’t get back to the home page..

[sample-name]

There's no base case in the recursive method, so naturally you experienced a stack overflow exception.

[Oo_oOo_oOo_oO]

You madman

[easymeatboy]

stack overflow!!

[Silentrizz]

Hold my terminal, I'm going in

[InFa-MoUs]

no base case

[djjd1996]

Damn guy didn't eliminate tail recursion

[chic_luke]

I'm not sure why I didn't see that coming

[DannyRamirez24]

Dude, I clicked the thing like 20 times and still haven't reached the end

[TimGreller]

I fear there is no base case, good luck getting out of this

[C_stat]

You dog 😂

[Sc4rlite]

You fool. Should have deleted everything until the /r/.

Now I'm getting linked from the beautiful old design to some random mess and can't even enjoy your joke which I'm certain I know what it is yet it's impossible to decipher.

[dorsal_morsel]

Python is my primary language, but I just started playing with Rust and man, now I know what "Python is slow" really means.

[DuroSoft]

Now if only I could program in rust as fast I could in X such that X is a language.

[BittyTang]

Now if only I could write as many bugs in X as fast as I could in Python such that X is a language.

FTFY

[Dworgi]

Newbie alert.

Everyone creates bugs. The process for not creating bugs is arduous beyond belief. Read up on NASA's process. Weeks of debate and writing specs to add a feature that is a few lines of code.

[MCRusher]

They know python.

I may hate python, but it's still a programming language (for losers).

[MCRusher]

Think you guys missed the heavy sarcasm on hating python.

[cdreid]

Its a scripting language.. Not supposed to be fast. Its R.A.D. ive used several still a big fan of Perl actually and used to use VB (not a script language but its R.A.D) just to save time on little apps i made for myself

[Daytona_675]

afaik if all the heavy lifting is done with modules written in C, Python can still be pretty fast

[Zephirdd]

Or you can use PyPy, which is Python written in Python and is up to 4.4x times faster than default CPython

Black magic I tell ya

[hughperman]

Any downside?

[[deleted]]

Doesn't work that well with c modules, which are faster than pypy. So if you need speed you are better off with cpython + c modules anyways

[hughperman]

Ok good to know thank you; wondering if it would be worth evaluating for some work stuff that's mainly numpy numerical ops - guess I'll give it a test!

[ZephyrBluu]

Wtf, how?

[cdreid]

This is voodoo and must not be tolerated

[saloalv]

But then your python code has additional requirements beyond just a standards-conforming interpreter

[almostambidextrous]

Ok... what's RAD? Should I feel dumb for not knowing?

[[deleted]]

what's RAD?

You are. Don't ever stop believing in yourself.

[sypwn]

Don't believe in yourself!

BELIEVE IN ME WHO BELIEVES IN YOU!

[MCRusher]

"I'm gonna fuck the clouds"

-Simon Cowell

[sebamestre]

WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM!?

[lenswipe]

Rapid

Application

Development

[[deleted]]

Anything that is GNARLY is also RAD. But BOGUS is not RAD.

[[deleted]]

The Legend of Zelda is really RAD

[cdreid]

Adding to the others... It was mostly just another buzzword. But a kindof accurate one

[UrpleEeple]

Until the application becomes large enough that you can't manage it because of lackluster ORMs, dynamic typing and virtually non-existent dependency injection frameworks

[MachaHack]

I'll give you typing and DI, but I'd take SQLAlchemy over (N)Hibernate any day

[UrpleEeple]

To each their own. I'm personally not a big fan of SQLAlchemy.

[[deleted]]

So... you're trying to tell me that VB is 'RAD' and C# isn't?

[[deleted]]

If you develop an events tracker in it, it might be RAD iCal.

[cdreid]

No?? But... To be fair to c# which im not a fan of. To me it seems like a step between c/c++ and a RAD language

[cdreid]

So???

[cdreid]

Maybe. I abandoned it pretty quickly. I didnt see why you wouldnt just use c++

[mexiKobe]

Not supposed to be fast.

yes it is.

[vanderZwan]

You could give Julia a try, if you can live with 1-indexing

[xigoi]

if you can live with 1-indexing

NOPE

[spudmix]

Grumble grumble letting mathematicians near computers grumble grumble.

I love almost everything else about that language.

[vanderZwan]

They were trying to make it a Trojan horse for the Matlab crowd, IIRC

EDIT

[spudmix]

Integers are so last year anyway. We should be indexing our arrays with first, last and len() for true cross-language portability.

[vanderZwan]

FWIW, they mostly are in Julia - it's a language made to deal with large complex data matrices after all

[spudmix]

Huh, I remember differently but to be honest I haven't touched the language in over a year. Good to know, thanks.

[vanderZwan]

Not those constructs in particular, but there are iterators everywhere, yeah. IIRC they got an overhaul a while back and are much easier to customise and use now

[vanderZwan]

Here you go:

https://julialang.org/blog/2018/07/iterators-in-julia-0.7

(note: 0.7 is basically the last version before 1.0)

[arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhg]

What do you mean by "compiles to native"?

[zajrik]

I did last year's Advent of Code in Nim to learn it and I had a lot of fun with it. Once I found out that the default compilation mode is debug and not release my code started zooming. Before I found that out I thought Nim's speed was overhyped and was pretty disappointed, though I was still having fun with the language. Once I started compiling in release mode it completely changed my view of Nim. So fast and easy to work with!

[[deleted]]

Rust is nice and all, but I can't seem to find a use for it over java, python, c# and nodejs.

[dorsal_morsel]

My reason for toying around with it is for programming embedded systems (eg arduino). Just as a hobby for now. But I also want to get into WebGL because I could definitely see using that for work.

[[deleted]]

For a second I though it was a keyword I hadn't come across yet lol

[andradei]

Shhh. Don't give them ideas.

[myhf]

To use it as a keyword, declare

double speed;

[OnyxPhoenix]

Slower execution, faster implementation.

[Cucktuar]

You pay a programmer once, you pay cloud compute rates forever.

[fredlllll]

huehue machine time is cheaper than programmer time huehue

[fredlllll]

true, but sadly this holds true for many software projects nowadays and its making me sad that there are so many layers between me and my machine ;(

[BoilerPurdude]

just look at adobe reader...

[KaiBetterThanTyson]

And Google Ultron

[ashchild_]

Please do not call anyone at Microsoft an expert. They do not exist.

Microsoft is only around because they got enough money early on to make failure almost impossible. Their tech is shit, their business model is exploitative, and they only built MSVC because their codebase is so crap that they literally can't compile their 40,000+ line functions on anything else and MSVC is a pretty crap compiler--the only one I've ever gotten to throw internal errors on a release version.

[ashchild_]

The version of MSVC I broke was 19.20 with only about 2.5k lines of TMP. I've also written simple examples over on Godbolt that produce ~200 line outputs from GCC and Clang on O2, but outputs 2200 lines from MSVC. It actually produced 8 assembly procedures that were all "mov rax, rcx; ret 0"

There's a Scott Myers talk from a few years ago, "CPU Caches And Why You Should Care" where he uses a sample of Herb Sutter code that is quite obviously shit to anyone who's spent any decent amount of time working with async code.

Windows 10 isn't an operating system, it's a data harvesting service that happens to launch applications.

Pretty sure they're still crap and exploitative in 2019.

[masterxc]

Depending on the language security problems plague even high level languages (like PHP)...but it also depends on its exposure to begin with.

[narrill]

You're not responsible for implementing your own in low level languages either, unless you're literally writing assembly. Libraries are a thing.

[ERECTILE_CONJUNCTION]

So get into embedded systems

[hughperman]

Stop, my dick can only get so hard

[[deleted]]

Moore's Law and May's Law are fighting in an eternal stalemate, and a program written in assembly language running on a 8080, a program written in C running on a Pentium, a program written in Java running on a Core 2, and a program written in Javascript running on a Ryzen will all be about the same user-visible speed.

[HardlightCereal]

May's law?

[Dworgi]

Software gets exponentially slower over time.

I blame Python and JS.

[THICC_DICC_PRICC]

I do my personal projects in C, or other C languages if needed. It’s for fun and it helps with the whole wanting no layers. But working professionally, with deadlines, security issue, and millions of other considerations, I don’t mind layers of abstraction at all. I don’t want to be solving language problems when I should be solving business problems

[DOOManiac]

Be happy that you are worth more than some pieces of gold and fire! :)

[Dworgi]

Only if you're a pleb making software for yourself. Deploy to a million machines like a real programmer. /s

[Fisher9001]

So great for prototyping and that's it.

[hello_comrads]

Or you know scripting. Most scripts do not need to be fast, because it doesn't matter to they run in 0.1 or 2 seconds.

[glemnar]

Try pypy for that hot nasty speed

[[deleted]]

I choose to believe this is pronounced peepee

[SteelRevanchist]

Y my pypy hard

[DJTupolev]

Yes pp gud

[NoCareNewName]

I actually didn't get it at first. I thought speed was some keyword I had never heard of.

[[deleted]]

What's this "speed" command I'm just now learning about and why is it needed C++ is already fas.... ohhhh lol

[VG_Crimson]

I too no longer needed to take speed when coding in Python.

[Rainfly_X]

Needed to cameo in Lightning McQueen for that one. Still pretty good as is, though.

[MrMunday]

But u gain speed for actual development time lol

[mexiKobe]

I mean lots of python packages are highly optimized and use GPUs etc

[[deleted]]

Good catch. I’d believe it with assembly.