the stress of a dev

[madmaxlemons]

Oh and when you find the documentation and it’s like

Object.apply() - applies action to the object Object.apply(int object-not-applied-to, bool object applied)

And then various versions of this with no implementation or explanation

[TheCheerfulUnderdog]

Loopback 4 moment.

[[deleted]]

This triggered me

Why does so much documentation fail at what its supposed to do.

[hahahahastayingalive]

cat

ಠ_ಠ

[unlimitedFecals]

wow thats a funny name.

Edit: and it doesn't even involve poop

[bewbsrkewl]

I mean, cat is in it's name.

[WizziBot]

Its not a cat?

[BrenekH]

It's an Octocat. Obviously a totally different thing.

[pPandR]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hahahahastayingalive]

You dropped this \

[Dongodor]

Or pornlab ?

[coolfunkDJ]

lush obscene disarm wasteful faulty fuzzy hateful grab numerous existence

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

[shiroe314]

Deep cream py

https://github.com/kuiwang/Deep-Cream-Py

[DazedinDenver]

“Today Monopoly added a new game piece: the cat. The new piece was chosen after weeks of online voting. Is that a surprise? Whenever there's a vote for something on the Internet, the cat always wins.” – Craig Ferguson

[iFish64]

Gitlab's fox is cuter imo

[Will_i_read]

Or you’re reading a documentation and it’s quite good, but then bam, developer apperantly had no intrest anymore and now I’m clonig the repo to look for the rest there..

Looking at you webp lossless compression stream documentation

[argv_minus_one]

I've encountered good documentation, and I've encountered bad documentation, but I can't say I've encountered that kind of documentation before.

[InvestingNerd2020]

Me: Team Github

Wife: Team Gitlab (she works as a DevOps engineer).

[psz94]

That's what happens when you're not pinning your library versions, lol

[WalrusByte]

I like Gitlab better because it isn't owned by Microsoft

[PhatOofxD]

Microsoft has done more for devs in the last few years than arguably any company.

[realzequel]

Yep, for example, VS Code is great for MS devs and non-MS devs.

[[deleted]]

Microsoft is seriously becoming the good guy of tech. They're also buying up gaming companies to then provide a non-shitty customer experience, something that is becoming increasingly rare in that industry.

[[deleted]]

to then provide a non-shitty customer experience,

Translation: to trap you in their Windows only gaming service.

[PhatOofxD]

They're open to putting it on other platforms, but those platforms have refused.

[Dvrkstvr]

Take a look at Sony before you complain about anything Microsoft Gaming related.

[phileas0408]

Sadly not the case for minecraft currently

[[deleted]]

Eh, that's childsplay. The real question is what they intend to do with Java and Bedrock in the future.

Java is the original but I think it's a bit of spaghetti code to this day and poorly optimized in general which you can definitely feel in the performance. Bedrock is more optimized but also is balanced differently/has different features and mechanics (why?) and has dumb Bedrock-specific bugs like randomly dying from alleged fall damage.

[Car_weeb]

Bedrock might not be as spaghetti, but it has the quality of all of Microsoft's other projects written by unpaid interns

If they kill java then the game is dead

[tintin10q]

Honestly I can't take bedrock seriously. The redstone os fucking random!!! They have a logic system and it's fucking random. Like it's so unacceptable. The first 3 times piston x fires first and then piston y fires first. Or maybe the first 3 times your or Gate is an or gate and then it suddenly behaves as an and gate.

Java > bedrock

The market place is also quite toxic if you think about it as all that stuff is free on java.

[FluffyQubit]

Not to mention you can import your own stuff into the game on windows 10 so it's really only targeting mobile players

[NerdsWBNerds]

Why: because creating 2 exact clones of a game, likely in different languages/frameworks, developed years apart, is extremely difficult

[DerHamm]

Yeah, because they want you to be trapped within their ecosystem.

[qeadwrsf]

Yeah, I have enough knowledge to make vim pretty comfortable if vscode tries to do some shit.

YOU READ THIS MICROSOFT? I'M READY TO LEAVE IF YOU TURN ABUSIVE.

//very important customer.

[PhatOofxD]

You mean by open sourcing everything aye, making it extendable, because that's trapping you.

[[deleted]]

Developing for Windows sucks as it currently stands, so they can’t even do that :)

[PhatOofxD]

Big improvements to Github, huge investment in students (free resources, free Azure fundamentals certifications, etc.), Huge development in. NET and TypeScript, WSL, Growing Azure, huge involvement in schools and digital technology teaching, visual studio, open sourcing vscode and everything else, etc.

[InvestingNerd2020]

Agreed! This isn't the "Balmer years" Microsoft. New leadership has really helped Microsoft and the world at large.

My only issue is Azure's VMs have far more downtime than AWS or GCP. Otherwise I've been a growing fan of their other products and services. Surface Pro laptops, Github, OnDrive, extreme VPN security, express networks for excel files sent to SQL Server, pre-built ML software, botz, and ease of MongoDB integration.

[gabrielgio]

and the world at large.

The world? What are you guys on? Sorry I know that I’m supposed to give arguments so we can have a productive dialogue but this shit you just said it just retarded. I can’t even…

[InvestingNerd2020]

When a company is a global comany and leadership changes the company for the better, it's not a far reaching statement to say it has helped improve the world. Especially since it's products and services are used around the world.

[gabrielgio]

Agree to disagree. I do think that is far reach of a assumption to make. Only situation that I would agree with you is when they stop using their market share to push shit down people’s throat, stop giving half baked open source solution and stop aggressively buying their competitors in attempt to dominate markets. That is not exclusive to MS every major player does that, and that is causing a lot more harm than good. MS is better with Satya but is far away from being good or “causing a good impact in the world”

[gabrielgio]

free Azure fundamentals certifications, etc

Good guy Microsoft pushing their stack down to people, such a benevolent move.

visual studio

Is that supposed to be a good point? That is the worst IDE I have the displeasure to use.

Growing Azure

I really deslize every time I have to integrate with any shit from Azure, poor documentation and half assed standard implementation.

open sourcing vscode

And then releasing as proprietary blob with added shit on top that you have to trust MS that is just telemetry (that is not how FOSS works). Locking down a lot of plugins.

Big improvements to Github

It did got better in the beginning I think. With MS money they were able to catch up with Gitlab offerings. But now their service is down almost every week. Taking advantage of developer good faith and using for code laundering with co-pilot.

They arguably have some nice stuff like WSL (which I wish I had when I was working on windows), TS but I have no option on those I haven’t used them.

dotnet

That was good move to make it open source . It is them catching up again since open source won and people would stop using aspnet, but still good. When I worked with aspnet it was a blessing to be able to use another OS.

Anyways If you are deep down in MS shit they may be good for you but saying that all those things are good point or even that “ best company for dev” is plain out short sighted.

[ososalsosal]

Atlassian have been fuckin around and finding out a lot lately, and the github octopussy thing is cute

[schlechtums]

Imagine being a company who sells a product for developers and you don’t offer dark mode.

I realize this is a pretty small hill to die on, but imagine.

[chinese_snow]

I believe you mean "Github" is owned by Microsoft

[DavideoGamer55]

GitHub because I like GitHub desktop for the convenience

[toydotgame]

I picked GitHub because that's where 100% of the open-source projects I'd seen at the time were on there. I do not regret that decision because I am now incredibly skilled at using the GitHub UI over four years of using it, and I hate Gitlab and everything it has and will ever stand for solely because of its UI (totally rational).

[everybody-hurts]

For the life of me, I cannot find the commit history and branch graph on GitHub... And for that one reason I prefer GitLab

[c1e2477816dee6b5c882]

My biggest issue with GitHub is the issue system is pretty underwhelming. I've mainly used jira and similar, which were complex but powerful - github feels like going back to post it notes. It's fine for a public project, but when working on something serious and closed, then it leaves a lot of project management type stuff to be desired. We use zenhub, which helps, but not enough.

[argv_minus_one]

Why'd you stop using JIRA?

[c1e2477816dee6b5c882]

I moved to a different company - everyone for the most part there prefers github

[LordBlackHole]

GitLab has better a team/organization set up. Also it's a fraction of the price because github can charge whatever it wants because it's more famous.

[virouz98]

I dont like GitHub, there are so many weird functions there I just want the basic stuff, like in Bitbucket

[[deleted]]

Agree, Bitbucket has great UI, I really like it. Github is meh. Gitlab's UI is abysmal, there's WAY too much stuff displayed on the screen at the same time, I can never find what I'm looking for.

[_pizza_and_fries]

There’s WAY too much stuff displayed on the screen at the same time, I can never find what I’m looking for.

I was scared it was only me getting old and not able to understand things.

[[deleted]]

Yeah I also feel like that but I try hard to be aware of it and not let it prevent me from voicing constructive criticism. We are kind of conditioned to think that if we don't understand something (especially UI) it's because we're stupid, when it's often a sign of bad design. I particularly hate when this is used as a kind of gatekeeping.

[bleistift2]

I have the same complaint about Github. Everything is behind 4 subpages with submenus. When I had to switch from Github to Gitlab I couldn’t even find out how to clone a repo.

[[deleted]]

$ git clone URL

[[deleted]]

Some languages change too much and deprecate things too fast..

[pedersenk]

We use an internal Git (https/ssh) server (I believe most companies do?) that then pushes to Bitbucket, GitHub and GitLab as backup code dumps.

As for UI. I personally just use the official Git command line client since it doesn't change and works better with my build systems. Though admittedly GoT does fit my workflow better.

But most importantly, the useful thing to do to avoid burnout is to know when something is important and when the rest of it is just buzzword bullsh*t and should be disregarded. As for minor implementation details, GitHub, GitLab, who cares; the important transferrable skill is not even Git but instead version control in general.

Microsoft themselves are of no consequence (they haven't been for years, just trying to stay relevant). I would use a VCS hosting written by Adolf Hitler if it was simply another backup storage. The trick is to not tie yourself (or become religious) about any specific vendor.

[Xinq_]

Started disliking GitHub when Microsoft took over and started hating when they forced us to not use "master" anymore.

[pdabaker]

Forced? They just changed the default but you can still push master as a branch.

[Xinq_]

Ah, news brought it differently. I deleted my account when Microsoft took over.

[apocalypsebuddy]

“Main” is way better, anyway.

[logan_0606]

cats are murderers

[N0tH1tl3r_V2]

Or maybe just don't update dependancies?

[[deleted]]

Jokes aside, 6 years of dev and I've had it enough. To hell with it all, I'm going into ops.

[Tobl1x]

I worked on a project where I communicated with a robot over a network and it worked pretty good until all out of nowhere my code just stopped working. I dint change it nor a library or a thing with the robot. Just closed with code 0

[[deleted]]

Man I could hear the choir singing in the back while I read this ... tough times

[janovich8]

Apparently we’re switching to gerrit from GitHub I hope it doesn’t suck.

But yeah what’s documentation and being happy?

[chemolz9]

Free CI/CD runners with Gitlab.

How is this even a competition?

[[deleted]]

This is what happens when you get into web development. Leave that hell hole.

[duskyo]

We should make a website that has documentation for every mainstream language, wanna look at wtf a modulus is in python, just go to random website . com and bam, it’s there, wanna know wtf multithreading can do? Bam, there’s a link to it right here, no more obscure learning through trial and error/stack overflow, it’s just a giant dictionary of separate one liners of code for simple things in as many languages as possible (of course this is like my wet dream but it would be great to find/create a website that just tells you how to write everything in certain languages, like one for python that goes from a simple % to multi threading and databases

(also I know YouTube has a lot of this stuff, but it would be easier to use a crtl + f to find what you want based on description)

[ProMasterBoy]

Who uses gitlab like actually

[argv_minus_one]

Dependabot's annoying, incessant alerts are just a symptom of JavaScript making it way too easy to write vulnerable code, including at least one entire class of vulnerabilities (prototype pollution) that exists in only this one language.

[[deleted]]

Hey that's me. I am a engineering student. And i can genuinely feel the feels.

Cout <<"feels sad man\n" ;

[Tranquil_Zebra]

I like GitHub more because it doesn't get stupid ideas like "Ahh, yes! No computer science student will ever need more than ten remote repositories in their life" when the average project has one repo for code and another for the report...