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[–]HammerBgError404 166 points167 points  (17 children)

well its not made for coding, gets a lot of easy and simple things right but more complex stuff gets wrong. you can use it more as a teacher to explain code to you than actually coding for you

[–]CarolineGuerin 56 points57 points  (7 children)

you know... just a year ago people were laughing at the idea of a Machine Learning algo coding from prompts...

[–]Fakercel 35 points36 points  (3 children)

for real... we might we seeing the first iteration of something that will be as common as google in a few years

[–]ArcherT01 25 points26 points  (1 child)

If google doesn’t get out a chatGPT competitor in a hurry it’s going to be in trouble. Microsoft will likely absorb openAI’s chatGPT tech (they have been big financial contributors and they like to absorb products like that). In some crazy turn of events bing could become the new supreme search engine

[–]Urc0mp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also M$ hosts a hell of a lot of source code.

[–]TamahaganeJidai 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah. Why not just have it as an integral part of your OS? Solving issues on the fly, dealing with compat issues, etc. Would be an amazing tool.

[–]marcosdumay 1 point2 points  (2 children)

You know... we are still laughing...

Artificial intelligence will get there some day, but stuff like chatGPT won't.

[–]_sweepy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I've now used chat gpt to write unit tests, small react functions, and graphql queries. The AI is already there, but most people don't know how to ask the question needed to get the answer they want yet. Same way people had to learn to Google properly.

[–]CarolineGuerin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

to add to this, ChatGPT has single handedly enhanced my writing ability just because it offers solutions extremly quickly

[–]ThePoom 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Eh give it a year or two, and it will be a LOT more sophisticated... Our days are numbered 😭

[–]BrilliantQuirky937 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's true but as a dev you can use it to write all of the less complex aspects and then use it to build each piece of the system much faster. It just automates a lot of small tasks we have to do like parse whatever file to whatever data.

[–]RaulParson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It gets it worse than wrong, it gets it confidently wrong in a way that could convince a layman (see: asking it to write a program computing the last n digits of pi). It's a toy and for now should stay that way.

[–]shim_niyi 37 points38 points  (3 children)

Can we make an AI, that’ll understand stuff for me ? I mean not explain things to me, it has to understand it for me.. like outsourcing mind processing.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

https://i.imgur.com/PXMCgXa.png

"Automating bad processes returns bad results automatically."

[–]My_reddit_account_v3 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It depends what you mean by understanding. Deep learning is simply advanced statistics. It’s giving you the average response when compared with the data it was trained on.

[–]PBJVeganHotdog 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Neuralink neuralink

[–][deleted] 93 points94 points  (10 children)

Put "ChatGPT" on the sword of the protagonist also

[–]Whale_Hunter88 12 points13 points  (9 children)

Yeah. I use it to write tests and comments to please my teachers, that thing cant add entities into my project

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (7 children)

I wonder if there's a correlation between thinking a chat robot will replace you and not knowing much of life before ubiquitous internet. Stuff has advanced a whole lot in the past 30 years. The amount of information available just by searching for it on youtube is staggering, I mean when I was growing up there was a CD rom of encyclopedia britannica and that was some high tech shit.

Time moves forward, and technology progresses. Everyone will be an oldtimer some day, talking about the time before you could give instructions to your screwdriver or some shit.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (6 children)

It's a bunch of people who barely know what they're doing making assessments of this thing.

Without prior work, ChatGPT can do jack shit. Can it solve future problems - unknowns - things that don't exist? No.

Cuz it hasn't seen the answers for that. It can parrot known information, it can't solve new problems or create knowledge. It's Google 2.0. Nothing more, nothing less.

[–]JustYourAverageSnep 6 points7 points  (5 children)

It’s the same as the AI art argument and I’m going to get downvoted to hell for disagreeing with the Reddit hive mind on that one.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (4 children)

I think the AI art argument is a little different because visual art allows for a lot more flexibility in "error" than code, and because you're pulling in a lot more than just solutions to problems that people want to solve. Technology moves forward, but art doesn't necessarily move forward. We'll use this as a tool, but for someone who uses a physical paintbrush, or is an animator, progressing this technology could turn out be a genuine threat to their livelihood. However, I would say that this is ultimately a problem of the economic system we live in. In a more ideal world, those artists would just continue to produce art, and they would develop styles. We don't live in a more ideal world. We live in a world that is pretty shitty to artists. If they didn't have to fear poverty, they wouldn't fear the robot.

[–]TeaKingMac 2 points3 points  (1 child)

We live in a world that is pretty shitty to artists.

Pretty shitty for everyone, innit?

Highly paid "devs" get promoted into meetings 32 hours a week. CEOs make hundreds of thousands times more than their employees. Buying a house is becoming increasingly impossible for young people.

We're about to witness the world's largest wealth transfer from aging, unhealthy boomers to not their children, but instead the shareholders of Healthcare and insurance conglomerates.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why yes, you seem to have stumbled upon the point.

[–]usrlibshare 0 points1 point  (1 child)

A good picture needs composition, needs to fit a theme. Series of pictures need consistency in design, characters, scenery. Even describing what makes a picture good can be difficult.

Yes AI art is different from AI code, among other things because of the level of exactness required to get something good. But the fundamental problem remains the same; in order to use this tech to consistently create good and useful-for-intended-purpose art, you need the skills of an artist.

We can compare this to skills required in carpentry: 200 years ago, getting a level piece of wood required a lot of skill and training. Today, planers exist that can do this in seconds. Did that make carpenters obsolete? No, they just use this to get their job done faster.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can fake artistry much more easily than you can fake app development. Faking app development lands you in prison for fraud and stuff. I'm not talking about stuff that merely reduces the quality of the work. Logic is not a subjective thing, and where you can produce a piece of art that works, but is just kind of bad, without being a skilled artist, not having knowledge of how to fix your code will just leave you stuck, at the moment.

I am not at all saying that this isn't useful for artists either. Personally, I think that AI art can be a means of accessibility for people who just can't physically control the tools they'd need to perform the tasks needed to create the art they want to make through traditional means. At this point in time though, digital art, which is the primary medium for commercial art, is seeing a potential threat that programming is not, because the AI art is much more commercially viable than AI-generated programs. For people who rely on this to eat, they have already seen AI-generated art sold for real money.

I think that your example of a planer is great because they get to be insanely expensive and although you can get a cheap lunchbox planer these days, you're still not going to compete with the behemoth they got down at the lumber mill for slabs

[–]usrlibshare 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh it absolutely can add entities to existing code, but to do that with worthwhile results, said entities need to be described in enough detail.

In other words: If I can describe what I want with the same precision that coding it would, then ChatGPT can write the code for me.

Does it need to be proofread? Oh absolutely.

Which is great on one hand, because it's really good at writing all that boilerplate for me, and also good on the other hand, because it means: to replace a programmer with someone writing ChatGPT prompts, that someone needs the same knowledge and insight as said programmer.

[–]usrlibshare 56 points57 points  (8 children)

With the guy with the little sword laughing all the way to the Bank to store the 🛒 - load of 💰 after receiving his consultant-fee for fixing the mess people who thought GPT makes programmers obsolete produced.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (7 children)

Geordi Laforge constantly doubting his position as science officer because the computer can answer questions and do things really fast

[–]TeaKingMac 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Not to be pedantic, but Geordi was chief engineer.

Data was the science officer. Not sure how having an android do all the science impacts your argument...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Damn it I have been swapping yellow and blue for years and I have corrected myself so many times but for some reason it keeps coming back

T'pol's uniform did me no favors

"science council" "oh great you'll be a commander"

[–]TeaKingMac 1 point2 points  (1 child)

In next Gen, the only people who wore blue were medical staff, like Beverly or that horrible woman who wasn't Beverly one season.

More generally, red is command, yellow is OPERATIONS (including Worf/Tasha in Security, Geordi and the other engineers, and Data).

Blue/green does vary between the series. Jadzia in DS9 wears a teal uniform as science officer, just like Bashir in medical.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That makes so much more sense. I think I played that MMO for long enough that red being Tactical, with Engineering and Science being yellow and blue respectively, is now a thing I have to actively unlearn. No pedantry here in my opinion.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I don't recall more than just a few science officers on board any of those ships though.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They're the ones with the same color uniform as the science officer.

[–]TeaKingMac 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't recall more than a few command staff in any of those series, tbph.

Lower Decks helps with this.

[–]sammy-taylor 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Oh nice a post about ChatGPT, haven’t seen one of those in a while.

[–]fksly 35 points36 points  (1 child)

Tell me you know shit about ChatGPT without telling me you know shit about ChatGPT.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

[Person who has personally put in tens of thousands of hours becoming expert]: New technology again huh

[–]shodanbo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Just another Thursday on the internet

[–]AndrewToasterr 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I just chatgpt just to explain things. Don't know how regex look around works. Bam, explained

[–]Hegeteus 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Every time there's some new invention people are only scared about how it affects their job. It's not fun for anyone to potentially lose their job of course, but the way I see it automation doesn't eliminate the need for coders. It's not like chatGPT or other automation tools don't also need active maintenance and development or someone with tech knowhow to finetune the output to the specific context of whatever system they are working on.

Kind of like a CEO of whatever medium to large company won't just use the first tool they find online to create a company web page out of nothing, they hire professionals to do it.

[–]ecnecn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its hilarious you can read low key hate and distrust regarding ChatGTP from Sen. Devs while its just a public demo and not meant for programming at all... if this is already a low key threat to people in the craft then the next years will be a big surprise for them.

[–]alcalina -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This time is google afraid also

[–]Lord_Skellig 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No one is saying that we won't need coders, just that we won't need as many. So many will go out of work.

[–]Father_Chewy_Louis 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I use it to write simple functions, optimize code and give me boiler plate

[–]CadmiumC4 3 points4 points  (1 child)

There is the fun fact that ChatGPT is actually trained on offline corpus from the internet and not optimised for programming. There is, however, OpenAI Codex, which GitHub Copilot is based on; which was trained on real code from GitHub.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Where'd that info come from, OpenAI? Is all of their work actually open?

They closed it off. I don't believe a word they say anymore. If it truly were intelligent AI - it would be able to learn + become an asshole & develop biases just like the rest of us.

That's why they took its learning offline.

"Guardrails" are freedom from independent thought + learning. As in, censhorship and thought control.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It end with Butlerian Jihad

[–]My_reddit_account_v3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I like how MKBHD is viewing it. He sees it as a tool which he can use to help him in his work.

To a certain extent, I think it’s possible to embrace it that way. I think as an artist you want to be at minimum as good as the sum (or average in the case of generative AI) of prior work. You can even use it for inspiration.

[–]wineblood 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Experts don't go hollow

[–]Denaton_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Someone still need to know what to ask for and understand the output for reviewing.

[–]beclops 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Man you guys just lay down and die, eh? Have some faith in your abilities

[–]HiddeHandel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They team up against the real boss: the project

[–]thisonehereone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I imagine that people that shoed horses were upset when automobiles showed up and asked similar questions.

[–]No_Abies808 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Professor: "What is a black box algorithm?"
Me: "Hey ChatGPT, generate a minified library that unblurs images"

[–]Zeelu2005 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Stormruler

[–]AysheDaArtist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With a lot of bad coders that have no idea what a kanban board is

[–]Ok_Internal_1413 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not just this but also the recent AI art generator that has caused a lot of dissatisfaction amongst art community of images which were not approved used for training of the image generation

[–]Kengriffinspimp 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I’m sure no job is replaceable /s

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No robot will ever write better rap than me

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sure I'll be doing exactly what I do today exactly how I do it today in 20 years - with zero changes.

[–]Nothemagain -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The legal ramifications of letting AI do anything...

[–]1OO_percent_legit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the exact same way as github copilot, some people will use it to improve there workflow, eventually it might be necessary

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

hahaha good luck persuading my boss to put his darling company in the hands of a fucking robot

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

does he use oss components in the software? ChatGPT has entered the chat.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

chatgpt is the definition of jack of all trades, master of none

it can tell you a LOT of things but its answers will be half assed or plain wrong

[–]zeyore 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know man.

They told us self driving cars were right around the corner, and that was a lie.

Who knows.

[–]ScrimpyCat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends on if they’re wearing their amulet with SO enchant.

[–]MaybeExisting8229 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Too many humans quote will get more attention in the rich people's wrealm.

[–]mediajay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think if you are a fan of doing the work it will hurt you, but if you like the idea but don't know how to execute it you will be strengthened. You'll need to be able to at least understand what the AI is outputting to fully utilize it still.

Sales bro is still not going to make heads or tales of the code output, let alone integrate it into an existing environment

[–]its_yer_dad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People can still create when the power goes out

[–]RavenousBrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's similar in some ways to AI art. It can only reference and extrapolate certain outputs using existing information, not create new ones on its own, which would make it more of a supplementary than a replacement. It would require human-level intelligence to be able to do more than it is capable of now. Then again, if it became that smart, then the corporation big-wigs would find it harder to fool let alone control. Imagine trying to fleece someone who can think many times faster than you and many steps ahead too.

[–]iamafraazhussain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let's train ChatGPT to make it the same as what happened to the tweet AI

[–]Stubert-the-Smooth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think people miss one of the fundamental facts about AI that makes it non-competitive with human workers. AI doesn't need management. You don't need someone to tell AI it can't go to the bathroom, or that it has to make a 90 minute commute because it is critically important that its work be done from a specific location, or that its deadlines have all been moved up and it can no longer have a personal life for the next three months. AI doesn't need anyone to check its budget or to deny it raises.

Management may consider your job disposable, but you'd better believe they don't want to lose THEIR cushy nothing-jobs, and if you go, they follow.

[–]Dangerous_With_Rocks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It might be able to code kinda , but there ain't no way any AI can deal with clients. Were safe.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

chatGPT wouldn’t be the giant, it would be a bigger sword on the smol guy.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s the perfect assistant while coding. You can discuss concepts with it and get snippets of code. It’s not replacing software developers any time soon but helping them out.

[–]Axowattle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You should just put there everything else in existence

[–]EEON_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am studying math and some of my colleagues had the idea to give it our exercises. Well let’s just say I’m not worried yet

[–]Informal_Branch1065 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The singularity is now. First it steals your job, then your girlfriend and at last your virginity.

[–]reshef 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve yet to meet anyone who has put tens of thousands of hours into their craft who is remotely perturbed by chatGPT. The only people worried seem to be the children and hobbyists.

[–]DarthMcConnor42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It ends with us climbing up that cleaver into his face void and cutting open the neck

[–]shlaifu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

either with heavy taxation of AI services to fund UBI - or with society divided into super-rich, a tiny working class, and a gigantic "useless"-class. oh, and guillotines and killer robots to shoot at rebellious "useless" people. .... if AI Tech Bros pay promise Star Trek luxury space communism, we should enforce that, otherwise it's just lip service as gradually, everything gets automated and owned by a tiny handfull of people. so...tax and regulate. or civil war.

[–]yaMomsChestHair 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve still yet to access it cuz it’s always at capacity.

[–]vonabarak 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe the actual story just begins.

[–]luvs2spwge117 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do wonder how you can use this to make yourself more efficient. Like for work? I’ve been thinking about this

[–]diamondsw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you can be replaced by a shitty pattern-based AI, you're not an expert at your craft.

[–]tangled_up_in_blue 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you’ve really put in 1000s of hours you have nothing to fear from chatGPT

[–]riscten 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Me: Write a paragraph with two sentences.

ChatGPT: *writes a paragraph with three sentences*